User talk:DUCKISJAMMMY/Archive 7

LibbyJax
I've left them a note, though any editor is free to warn (indeed it is encouraged!), not just admins. GiantSnowman 18:41, 4 January 2013 (UTC)

Re: Question
I wouldn't have thought so. In any case, I don't think you'd be violating 3RR for reverting infobox stats changes, since you're maintaining established convention. Cheers, Mattythewhite (talk) 17:50, 5 January 2013 (UTC)

List of FC Seoul transfers
Don't Delete - Individual clubs transfer list is also notable. Not notable is just Cloudz679's opinion. I don' understant why do you delet detailed article? Transfer list By nation or Transfer list By club are both informative. As yo u Know I invest much time to write this article. But you want to delete by just your private opinion. private opionion was just 3-4 lines to write 1-2 minites. I really have spectisism on wikipedia. I crated andm improve this article 3 years. But this article can delete by just 2 person's private opinion to write 2 minites. In this manner Who contribute articles on wikepdia. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Footwiks (talk • contribs) 03:15, 6 January 2013 (UTC)

Demba Ba Goals
I don't know why you keep reverting his senior career goals for Chelsea. Am I supposed to put a cite near the appearances and goals or something, because I'm pretty sure my information is right. — Preceding unsigned comment added by MadeInChina125 (talk • contribs) 09:17, 6 January 2013 (UTC)

Delsort
Is their a script you use for Delsort and is it easy to do. Blethering  Scot  18:53, 6 January 2013 (UTC)
 * Sounds like too much hard work in that case. Blethering  Scot  20:40, 6 January 2013 (UTC)

Talkback
FrankDev (talk) 02:41, 7 January 2013 (UTC)

Delsort Question...
I have a quick question I was hoping you could help me with. On which sub type (ex:business, academics etc...) are doctors placed on the People related discussions? Or do they just get placed on the people list?-- Cameron11598  (Converse) 01:19, 8 January 2013 (UTC)
 * Thanks for the help!-- Cameron11598  (Converse) 01:33, 8 January 2013 (UTC)

Malin
Weird one but cant see how it can be a loan if has been released, think the first article has to be the accurate one. When doing the season articles i noticed he was with Elgin but never saw an official announcement. Blethering  Scot  18:38, 11 January 2013 (UTC)
 * Livingston did do something similar but they made it clear he would only be released on return from loan. The first source clearly says release, had previous loans but now signed emergency short term deal. That along with the BBC, SKY and other saying released to me comes down to quality of sources. Ive tweeted him as it encourages my curiosity. Blethering  Scot  19:08, 12 January 2013 (UTC)
 * Got a reply saying he has signed with them until end of season. Blethering  Scot  19:34, 12 January 2013 (UTC)
 * On another note BBC are back to form and are fixing errors. There is a new live score fixture option which I've used for match reports and they fix. Blethering  Scot  19:40, 12 January 2013 (UTC)

Regular Show Deletions
I note you have added a header to the following pages, stating they are at Articles for Deletion:-

Censorship of Regular Show in Latin America

Censorship of Regular Show in Australia

Censorship of Regular Show in Asia Pacific

However, when clicking on the "this articles entry" link (to vote for deletion) all three of these three pages link directly to:-

Articles for deletion/Censorship of Regular Show in Canada

Although you have added headers to these three pages, I can't find an actual entry for these pages in Articles for Deletion - so can't vote to delete these as well.

Keep up the good work - Arjayay (talk) 15:18, 12 January 2013 (UTC) Arjayay (talk) 16:31, 12 January 2013 (UTC) I am not accusing you of not following the instructions, but the statement "I am also nominating the following related pages" does not "meanings(sic) the same as bundled". it means you are "also nominating the following pages" - you do not say where; here, there or somewhere else - I assumed they were nominated elsewhere, so went to look for them. Arjayay (talk) 17:23, 12 January 2013 (UTC)
 * The three articles you mentioned above were BUNDLED with Articles for deletion/Censorship of Regular Show in Canada we do this when there is a number of related articles, all of which the nominator (me) thinks should be deleted. To make it easier for those participating in the discussion instead of having 4 separate discussions. So in answer to your question you were purposely directed to Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Censorship of Regular Show in Canada as there is only one discussion for them all. If you read the top of above AfD it says "I am also nominating the following related pages" with them 3 listed. This is standard practise and in answer to the second part of your question were you said "you couldn't vote to delete these as well because you couldn't find the individual entries" you already have as you stated delete all here. You may want to read WP:BUNDLE Regards &#9733;&#9734; DUCK IS JAMMMY &#9734;&#9733; 15:55, 12 January 2013 (UTC)
 * Thanks for the explanation - Although I can understand the benefits of "bundling", I think how it is currently handled is extremely misleading.
 * Under Articles for deletion/Censorship of Regular Show in Canada You state "I am also nominating the following related pages for the same reason:-" but nowhere does it state that these have been "bundled" into that proposal, so that a vote for/against "Canada" is also for/against "Latin America", "Australia" and "Asia Pacific".
 * Similarly - the average reader of "Latin America" being diverted to "Canada" without any explanation, is likely to have the same response as me - "I'm in the wrong place, where is the deletion discussion I have come to read/comment on".
 * Don't get me wrong, I believe all these articles should go, but the discussion should be 100% transparent.
 * As I said it's standard practice, here are other examples not by me Articles for deletion/Annie Sittauer & Articles for deletion/Ara-e Gharb Kermanshah F.C. if you go to Lindsay Elston and click this article's entry you are directed to Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Annie Sittauer. You say nowhere does it state that these have been bundled into that proposal but it does directly under "I am also nominating the following related pages" (which meanings the same as bundled) the three "Latin America", "Australia" and "Asia Pacific" are listed. That's why everyone stated delete all, I've never seen anyone confused over something being bundled, creating a bundle yes but not the actual bundle itself. You said you couldn't see the benefit of bundling, why have four separate discussions on essentially the same thing or in this case 22 separate discussions. If there was one of the four articles which editors thought was notable they would simply vote Keep such and such and Delete the rest which often happens just not in this particular AfD as all the articles are useless. I've explained as best I can your issue seems to be with BUNDLING as whole as you find it misleading rather then my nomination itself as it was created correctly per the instructions. &#9733;&#9734;  DUCK IS JAMMMY &#9734;&#9733; 17:15, 12 January 2013 (UTC)
 * NO, I did not say I "couldn't see the benefit of bundling", I specifically stated "I can understand the benefits of "bundling"". Please do not try to misrepresent what I said.
 * No point in arguing over semantics (see, understand), I outlined why it's beneficial. Nor was I insinuating you felt I didn't follow instructions. We seem to be starting to go in circles, you just asked above where; here, there, it's in the very same discussion I don't know what you can't comprehend, did you look at the other examples I provided? &#9733;&#9734; DUCK IS JAMMMY &#9734;&#9733; 17:45, 12 January 2013 (UTC)
 * I think you'll understand it put this way: What I should have said above is "I am also nominating the following related pages" is an indication of bundling and the pages directly below are the ones that have been bundled, the deletion discussion is where all 4 are to be discussed as they are pretty much the same, nobody however went into individual comment as there all non notable so they simply stated delete all. &#9733;&#9734; DUCK IS JAMMMY &#9734;&#9733; 18:00, 12 January 2013 (UTC)

A kitten for you!
Thanks for catching that I missed to put AFD info on Sara Claire & Esther nom! I notice that you do a LOT of AFD sorting - how on earth do you keep tabs of it all?

Mabalu (talk) 22:44, 14 January 2013 (UTC) 

Thanks
Hi Duck, thanks but I'm afraid I just don't have the time these days for a lot of editing on Wikipedia. I just saw a few errors on some Celtic pages so thought I'd fix them. I might do a few smaller things but won't be able to do a lot. Anyway thanks, see you around. Adam4267 (talk) 21:40, 17 January 2013 (UTC)

Season articles
Hi. I know you are trying to back off from the season articles but I was wondering if you think you might be able to do a few of the spl ones. Just going to struggle to do them all over the weekend. Blethering  Scot  10:34, 19 January 2013 (UTC)
 * That would be great. Shall I leave the spl or would you prefer another league. Blethering   Scot  13:15, 19 January 2013 (UTC)
 * If a player was returned to the parent club after a loan ended and then returned again later that would be a new loan deal and should be listed twice. What do you think? Blethering  Scot  14:32, 21 January 2013 (UTC)
 * Was thinking more in the season articles. Can think of two examples so far this season. Blethering   Scot  15:46, 21 January 2013 (UTC)
 * Initially Mitch Megginson who returned to Aberdeen but is now back at Alloa. Also in the near future possibly Paul Dummett. Blethering  Scot  16:25, 21 January 2013 (UTC)
 * Oh i know its not an extension, Alloa make it pretty clear he went back to Aberdeen. Same with Paul Dummett if he returns as has played for Newcastle. As for that diff it was nearly two years ago so no chance of remembering. Blethering  Scot  17:00, 21 January 2013 (UTC)
 * Also you haven't seen a source for Jonathan Tiffoney joining Alloa have you? The only thing ive seen is his picture on the front page of their website saying new signing Jonathan Tiffoney but cant see an article backing it up. Blethering  Scot  17:07, 21 January 2013 (UTC)
 * Thanks ill use that. Blethering  Scot  17:27, 21 January 2013 (UTC)

Daniel Devine
As he has self-identified as 'Irish' (Eire) by expressing a desire to play for them, I'd say that is the correct flag to use. However, what do RS say? If they say NI then we go with that. GiantSnowman 09:14, 21 January 2013 (UTC)
 * I'd say go with that then. GiantSnowman 16:04, 21 January 2013 (UTC)

Afd close
Thanks for that. Best wishes DBaK (talk) 14:12, 21 January 2013 (UTC)

A barnstar for you!
Also, just out of curiosity do you have a script that helps you with categorizing the AfDs or do you manually do it? It's a Fox! (Talk to me?) 00:51, 23 January 2013 (UTC)
 * That's time-consuming :) Perhaps I'll write/rewrite some sort of tool sometime... Maybe. If I do I'll let you know. Thanks again for helping at AfD. It's a Fox! (Talk to me?) 01:00, 23 January 2013 (UTC)
 * /me writes script: you can just add importScript('User:Fox Wilson/delsort.js'); to your Special:MyPage/common.js. It should add a "delsort" link to the Interaction set of links. Hopefully it will work :) It's a Fox! (Talk to me?) 16:36, 24 January 2013 (UTC)
 * If you're using Vector, it's in the box with "Help", "About Wikipedia", "Community Portal" etc. about 10 links below the logo. It does not appear in the dropdown menu. However, I can set it up to do that. It's a Fox! (Talk to me?) 17:21, 24 January 2013 (UTC)

Talkback
It's a Fox! (Talk to me?) 18:05, 24 January 2013 (UTC)

It's a Fox! (Talk to me?) 22:03, 24 January 2013 (UTC)

Script
Based on your edits to several delsort pages, I gathered that you might creating some sort of script to help in deletion sorting. If you do, please let me know, as I'd be interested in using it to help out. Regards, Automatic Strikeout  ( T  •  C ) 20:43, 24 January 2013 (UTC)
 * Ah, that would be me. The script itself is at User:Fox Wilson/delsort.js, and there are some inconsistencies with the delsort pages that don't go well with the script :) You're welcome to use it. It's a Fox! (Talk to me?) 21:43, 24 January 2013 (UTC)
 * Thank you. I'm fairly busy at the moment, but I'll try to remember to look into it later. Thanks, Automatic Strikeout  ( T  •  C ) 21:46, 24 January 2013 (UTC)
 * DUCKISJAMMY: Is there any way for me to get a list of the most commonly used delsort categories? I'd like to add smaller links that delsort to those categories without having to type the name. It's a Fox! (Talk to me?) 21:43, 24 January 2013 (UTC)
 * I fixed the edit summary, it might take a bit for all the page caches to purge themselves and whatnot. It's a Fox! (Talk to me?) 21:48, 24 January 2013 (UTC)

Stats
Im assuming I've taken it from soccerbase iniitally and not double checked it, and then just added the results each week which have caused the error. Its illogical and incorrect to say that they didn't win so I've corrected it. Blethering  Scot  20:25, 26 January 2013 (UTC)
 * Im sure thats whats happened, anyway its fixed now. Blethering  Scot  20:36, 26 January 2013 (UTC)

Wrong page, perhaps?
 — PinkAmpers  &#38;  ( Je vous invite à me parler )  22:42, 29 January 2013 (UTC)

delsort at Articles for deletion/Scott Crawford (2nd nomination)
I'm not sure what the basis is for some of the delsorting you did here. It looks like you may have missed the note up at the top that the previous AFD was about a different person of the same name. You may want to re-evaluate some of those and remove it from some of those lists. Beeblebrox (talk) 22:35, 30 January 2013 (UTC)
 * I glad you contacted me directly as I can't possibly have all the AfDs on my watchlist however comments like this are not helpful so I ask you retract. Yes, I seen your note at the top of the AfD before I sorted stating it wasn't related to the previous AfD. However he is fitness trainer from Texas who owns his own businesses hence Businesspeople, Health and fitness & Texas. It also states at Scott Crawford he played for a number of soccer/footballl teams : Texas Toros, Dallas Burn, Dallas Sidekicks, and Texas Lightning so that's why it's also sorted under Football & Sportspeople, I'm not seeing the problem here. &#9733;&#9734; DUCK IS JAMMMY &#9734;&#9733; 22:50, 30 January 2013 (UTC)
 * He was not notable as a soccer player from what I can see, but you added him to three different deletion lists based just on that. Seems a tad excessive considering you added him to three other deletion lists as well. Beeblebrox (talk) 23:23, 30 January 2013 (UTC)
 * Changed your tuned a bit from saying I think your a little confused to that's excessive, in your opinion he isn't notable as footballer but that doesn't mean I'd shouldn't list a particular delsort that is relevant to the article, so that people who are more familiar with football guidelines can judge it against those guidelines. You said above "He was not notable as a soccer player from what I can see" well given you brought it to AfD you clearly don't think he is notable as Businessperson, should I not sort under that either. I get what your trying to say is it really necessary to delsort under a topic which he is not primarily known as but you have gone about it all the wrong way by first insulting me & then saying he not notable for that. It doesn't look like he passes N:FOOTY, though I haven't checked the teams he played for yet as I wasn't intending to vote but if one of those teams were in WP:FPL there would be grounds for keeping the article so why shouldn't it be listed under Football & Sportspeople given their relevant. &#9733;&#9734;  DUCK IS JAMMMY &#9734;&#9733; 23:54, 30 January 2013 (UTC)
 * Beeblebrox are you going to strike this given I wasn't confused, nor was it a question. At least then we can agree to disagree that the football/sportspeople delsort was necessary. &#9733;&#9734;  DUCK IS JAMMMY &#9734;&#9733; 19:11, 31 January 2013 (UTC)

Re: Afds
Sorry about that. I did not file that Afd, but noticed that the filer did not follow the usual steps in filing Afds. I was just doing all that, but should have realized that it must have been added in datewise main log, otherwise it could not get listed in the 'India-related Alerts' page, where I saw it.--GDibyendu (talk) 03:09, 31 January 2013 (UTC)

Michael Doughty
Given the issues with nationality - perfectly illustrated in this example - I feel we should always strive to dab by year of birth, so move the British player to 1992, and the Aussie to 1979. We can then create redirects as appropriate, and clarify on the dab page. GiantSnowman 17:02, 31 January 2013 (UTC)
 * You should change the templates, and also check for any double redirects. GiantSnowman 17:47, 31 January 2013 (UTC)
 * You may not have noticed your page move on the Australian footballer was moved back. Blethering  Scot  18:45, 1 February 2013 (UTC)
 * No problem just thought id say in case you missed it. Personally i think the title you moved to was the more correct one. Blethering  Scot  20:02, 1 February 2013 (UTC)

Sorry to hear you're leaving, hopefully you'll be back sooner rather than later! GiantSnowman 09:08, 6 February 2013 (UTC)

Life After Deletion
As someone who voted to delete the page on Women Live, it was suggested by a helpful administrator to contact you to request the page be saved so I can amend it in various ways. I’m not sure I’m placing my question in the right place but here goes.

See my enquiry posted yesterday which I paste below:

The Women Live page was recently deleted after a flurry of comments about notability and lack of evidence. I was dismayed by some of the comments and their tone - eg. because the article only had six issues it can’t be notable. I don’t quite get the rigour in that one!! However, another guy made some useful comments which I can’t now find. Is there a way to see the conversation leading to deletion? I have tried to find it.

I would like to reinstate the page when I have carried out the following: regarding notability - I intend to include a link to the Women’s Library where the archive is housed. Also, to a Guardian article about the magazine. Presumably these will contribute to the page’s notability? Also, I intend to list some of the more significant writers published by Women Live - and could link to a few who have Wiki pages. Will this help? Will it also help if I link to writer’s websites if they are not mentioned on wikipedia??

Could you please indicate whether the suggestions above will improve the article in Wiki terms.

thanks. Gillian Young (talk) 11:26, 1 February 2013 (UTC)

Table in season articles
Am i going mad or has the template we use for stats been changed over night. See 2012–13_Heart_of_Midlothian_F.C._season. Its on them all though, cant see which part of the template has been changed but it leaves a lot of empty space cant say i like it. Blethering  Scot  20:02, 1 February 2013 (UTC)
 * Found it cant say im surprised about who changed it. Blethering   Scot  20:04, 1 February 2013 (UTC)

Go n-éirí an bóthar leat
Thanks for your help Duck. Hope you come back, even if its just bits every now and then. Until our cross paths again take care. Murry1975 (talk) 09:19, 6 February 2013 (UTC)

Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Paul Douglas (cameraman) (2nd nomination)
Hi Duck,

I tried to list Articles for deletion/Paul Douglas (cameraman) (2nd nomination) under "news", "television" and "Iraq", but apparently I'm doing something incorrect and lack your talents! Could you tell me what I'm doing wrong. Thank you, Crtew (talk) 01:00, 10 February 2013 (UTC)
 * ✅. Hi Crtew, I'm actually retired from Wikipedia but I completed those delsorts for you. You completed step 2 adding the delsort tags but you didn't add the AfD to the delsort page itself step 1, it seems to be a common misconception that if you added the tags it automatically adds it to the delsort page which is not the case, it has to been done manually unless your using the new script by User:Fox Wilson. If your ever in doubt each delsort page lets take  Iraq for ex. have their own set of instructions at the top. All the best. &#9733;&#9734;  DUCK IS JAMMMY &#9734;&#9733; 07:07, 10 February 2013 (UTC)
 * Thank you, I really have appreciated some of your sorts, especially about news and journalists. I associate you with sorting and bringing these things to my attention, and so it is with some sadness that I hear about your retirement. But all the best wishes to you and thanks for coming out of retirement to save me! Thank you, Crtew (talk) 09:50, 10 February 2013 (UTC)

Talk:Inter Milan
Join the discussion!--Dipralb (talk) 12:29, 9 March 2013 (UTC)

Back...
Just seen your post at WT:FOOTY, are you back for a bit? GiantSnowman 11:51, 20 March 2013 (UTC)
 * Nice to see your name back on my watchlist, even if it is only temporary. Blethering  Scot  16:05, 9 May 2013 (UTC)
 * Even if its only once in a blue moon i hope you pop back every now and again. Im good just glad the end of the season is nigh. Never again. Blethering  Scot  15:49, 10 May 2013 (UTC)

Aaron Sekhon
Thanks for the evidence, will userfy tonight. Hope you're well. GiantSnowman 14:30, 10 May 2013 (UTC)

Benjamin Odeje
Hi, I have removed the e-mail, while publicly available I don't think we should be advertising it for privacy and spam reasons. I've left the link up though. Hope that's OK. GiantSnowman 13:45, 24 May 2013 (UTC)

Eoin O'Sullivan
I've deleted. Thanks, GiantSnowman 12:55, 28 May 2013 (UTC)

Sangju Sangmu FC
Hi, Pleaes move Sangju Sangmu Phoenix to Sangju Sangmu FC rapidly.Footwiks (talk) 10:00, 30 May 2013 (UTC)

2012–13 Elgin City F.C. season
Do you think its possible to rescue the transfer section or do you think I'm better hiding it. There has to be loads missing from it. Blethering  Scot  17:25, 1 June 2013 (UTC)
 * I agree to be honest but if there isn't any hope of completing it then in a way its better not being there at all, i hate not completing things more than anything. I will leave it just now. I was wondering about that thought i was going to have to attempt to complete it at some point, will be glad to be cut free of the shackles once I've completed all the summaries. Never again, wikis no fun when you cant do what you want to. Blethering   Scot  21:31, 1 June 2013 (UTC)

Saidy Janko
Whilst I can see where you are coming from regarding his football notability, the guy has a ridiculous amount of press coverage over his move to Man U, in the UK, Europe and in Africa where he is eligible to play for The Gambia.

The "significant coverage" means that he meets the GNG as far as I'm concerned. Salty1984 (talk) 21:29, 4 September 2013 (UTC)

A beer for you!

 * To be honest i haven't been editing a lot of football articles of late. Still doing the odd bit but no where near as much. Still the same old issues though, nothing changes. Blethering  Scot  17:52, 20 November 2013 (UTC)
 * Will likely pick back up again after christmas, got a few musical pages I'm trying to improve first. Better not starting what you cant finish, realised that more of late. Blethering  Scot  17:58, 20 November 2013 (UTC)

Lost password
As far as I can tell there is no way to reset a lost password from an account with no e-mail associated with it. Simply ask who used to be ... GiantSnowman 18:26, 20 November 2013 (UTC)
 * That's what they told me when I asked, anyway. That was many years ago, but I think it's still the case. cheers, Struway2 (talk) 18:32, 20 November 2013 (UTC)
 * But thinking about it, that was my main and only account. It might be different if it's an alternate account that you created and you have access to your main account. Might be worth asking at WP:VPT. cheers, Struway2 (talk) 19:14, 20 November 2013 (UTC)
 * Yeah, I'd say check with the experts first before creating a new account. GiantSnowman 19:16, 20 November 2013 (UTC)

Article
Sorry for not replying. There isn't really much to expand at the moment, and there appears to be other editors already involved. Blethering  Scot  19:09, 22 November 2013 (UTC)
 * This is my current project. Trying to get to GA, not going to be easy, but got some help thankfully. Blethering  Scot  22:07, 22 November 2013 (UTC)
 * There are more that's hidden. My taste in topic football and musicals couldn't be more polar opposites. Blethering  Scot  23:55, 22 November 2013 (UTC)

sorry about that
Oh sorry i made a mistake on intermilan page i was going to edit it then i guess delete something am not sure any way i made it all wrong sorry about that i am new to wikipedia and i am not even sure if that's the way i send a massage to someone because i dont know a way to contact another user, sorry for bothering you. — Preceding unsigned comment added by MHoY (talk • contribs) 18:12, 3 December 2013 (UTC)

List of Airdrie United F.C. players
Hi, I've deleted it, still got a number of others (Bradford City, Bradford Park Avenue, Accies) that I need to complete before taking on any more unfortunately. GiantSnowman 15:39, 24 December 2013 (UTC)
 * You too! GiantSnowman 16:06, 24 December 2013 (UTC)

Five major beauty pageants
Hello DUCKISJAMMMY, I would like to ask for your help regarding my first wikipedia page, it sounds like it is about to be deleted, can I ask how can I make it more effective and will not be deleted? I believe the page I created is not that bad. thank you and Merry Christmas! Markimatix (talk) 17:23, 24 December 2013 (UTC)
 * Hello DUCKISJAMMMY, my apology on what I have done. I never intended to send it to you but it is supposed to be for JNW. I will now do necessary things to fix problems regarding my page I created. Thank you so much. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Markimatix (talk • contribs) 19:27, 24 December 2013 (UTC)

Nabil Bentaleb
You have sourced his height from "goal.com" Can you present evidence that this is an acceptable source for biographical info? What is wiki's stance on this? I would have thought only official websites of clubs would count. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 60.240.5.113 (talk) 17:39, 26 December 2013 (UTC)

Eric Hennig
Hello! I saw you made some edits to the page "Eric Hennig". I've made some edits myself and wanted to see if you agreed with my findings that the actor is notable? I'm new to this and still learning. Any information would be greatly appreciated! Thanks!!Runner247 (talk) 20:20, 28 December 2013 (UTC)

Mea Culpa
I would like to apologize for attempting to delete my request for deletion of John J. Coughlin's entry. Each time I did it, you reverted it so quickly that I thought my edits were not registering. Only when I referenced the history log and read the instructions did I realize I could not delete my request. Anyhow, I wanted to let you know that it was not my intention to engage in an editing duel! Rather, it was a consequence of my neophyte Wikipedia ways. Sincerely,LuzanneOtte (talk) 03:39, 29 December 2013 (UTC)LuzanneOtte
 * Thank you for your note on my Talk page. Before reading it, I attempted to post a note to your page with a mea culpa for engaging in an inadvertent deletion duel. When I realized that I was misinformed as to what constitutes a conflict-of-interest, I sought to undo what I did to avoid what is likely to be an embarrassing nomination. Thank you for the information about how to withdraw. As you can tell, I continue to learn the procedure and the appropriate forums for various tasks. I consulted the Wikipedia pages on how long it takes to make it decision about deletion.  It stated it is usually about a week. Do you have any recommendations on how to expedite the process?  Thank you,LuzanneOtte (talk) 03:49, 29 December 2013 (UTC)

Substantive Achievements vis-a-vis Notoriety
Thank you for the response regarding my question about what constitutes substantive achievements/contributions in a field. I had looked up the information on what constitutes notoriety for various fields, so I have that information. In a discussion regarding the deletion of entry, John J. Coughlin, an editor stated that the page could be made better by providing more substantive achievements/contributions. Objectively, it seems that the entry meets the notoriety prong for the fields to which he is attached. As such, I thought I might be unfamiliar with a more detailed template on what constitutes substantive achievements/contributions. Based on your response and my research, I do not think that I have overlooked any such template. I am going to see if I can find an entry on someone with a similar scope of interests to glean insight from the entry. Thank you for your assistance. I am sure it is annoying to deal with Wikipedia neophytes! LuzanneOtte (talk) 22:53, 29 December 2013 (UTC)

You are correct that I was referring to the first post on the John J. Coughlin deletion discussion. I found several references that help to highlight that Coughlin's work has made a significant impact on his field. Most recently, I added footnote 14 from Oxford Journal of Law and Religion in which Robert Ombres describes Coughlin's work as, "pioneering." The review from arguably the premiere law and religion journal in the world makes a far better case for the unique nature of his work than I can. I do not want to abuse deletion discussion rules, but if you think it would be helpful for me to introduce, perhaps I should point it out in there. If the entry does not get deleted, I will tag it for contributions from experts on the subject to get assistance on contextualizing the content. It is Coughlin's specialized expertise that makes him notable, but the interdisciplinary niche also makes it more challenging to focus. Thanks again! LuzanneOtte (talk) 00:24, 30 December 2013 (UTC)