User talk:DUCKISJAMMMY/Archives/2011

Break
I have decided to take a break from wiki for a few days as I really don't need it. Anyway thanks for being nice. Most of the main things are tagged haven't done non international players although someone has tagged a few of them but mostly they arrent done. Thanks. Warburton1368 (talk) 10:23, 8 August 2011 (UTC)
 * I have now reported user ANI he is ip hoping and keeps changing Ayr United F.C. to part time so you may wish to add this to your watchlist he changed the list of fully pro leagues again. I will be taking a break from tonight but will still get any messages left for me on my talkpage. Warburton1368 (talk) 19:32, 8 August 2011 (UTC)

DRN notice
This is to inform you that you have been listed as an involved party in a request for dispute resolution made at Dispute resolution noticeboard. Regards, TransporterMan  ( TALK ) 13:28, 11 August 2011 (UTC)

Thanks
HI thanks for tagging some more articles appreciate it thats us at 3,812 articles tagged which is good going. I replied to your entry on the talk page re scottish national manager importance level sorry its a bit late. Warburton1368 (talk) 23:45, 11 August 2011 (UTC)
 * Just go for that. It was the day we started getting more members. Warburton1368 (talk) 13:14, 15 August 2011 (UTC)
 * no problem will have a look tonight. Warburton1368 (talk) 14:22, 15 August 2011 (UTC)

Scottish taskforce
No problems, I think if we follow/copy the layout of WP:FOOTY (after all, they are our parent project) then it'll be fine. If/when I have time I'll change the rest of the layout to match it, unless anyone else beats me to it! Also thanks for sorting out Obi's stats, was meaning to do that at some point today. Cheers, GiantSnowman 15:22, 15 August 2011 (UTC)

Images
Ooh, sorry, images is one of my week points - as a new & inexperienced editor I think I had a go at uploading some pictures, and they all got deleted, which has put me off ever since! For more information, have a read of Upload - if it meets the 'free content' specifications as outlined there, then I think you upload to Commons. Cheers, GiantSnowman 23:34, 16 August 2011 (UTC)
 * Hope you don't mind me jumping in - but you can also try the Flickr Upload bot to move the file to commons, it brings across licensing and attribution information for you which I've found is a help. Camw (talk) 23:57, 16 August 2011 (UTC)
 * Also, if you want to upload a new image and add it to an article in place of an older one, then be bold and do it! GiantSnowman 00:29, 17 August 2011 (UTC)

Re: Scottish taskforce new articles
Oh okay. I almost forget that. Thanks!  tatasport  my talk  12:07, 18 August 2011 (UTC)

Falkirk
That's annoying will take a look at improving then when I'm back at a computer later. I had held off creating them as the sources are conflicting on various things some even date of birth. Falkirk haven't created profiles of any of there squad and as they all came from the youth squads there hardly any sound sources. Will just create any other ones I have and improve then when Falkirk get there act together. Warburton1368 (talk) 20:08, 18 August 2011 (UTC)
 * Just proves my point Jay Fultons page had a totally different dob to the source i have found also it was wrong he made his debut last season not this one. Time to fix dale fulton. Warburton1368 (talk) 21:10, 18 August 2011 (UTC)
 * Another thing i have discovered his falkirk players have squad numbers. Warburton1368 (talk) 21:38, 18 August 2011 (UTC)
 * The fulton articles were terrible but hey if your not quick but thats them fixed now. He got them from here They dont have them for league matches  so can only presume you have to register squad numbers for the cups. Warburton1368 (talk) 21:57, 18 August 2011 (UTC)

Soccerbase
Dont know if you have noticed but soccerbase is terrible for first division players ive sent off three emails about players with wrong stats. Warburton1368 (talk) 22:04, 18 August 2011 (UTC)

New Articles
Ill have a look at fixing them later tonight just trying to complete livi season article for last season. Can i ask are you planning on creating more season articles for second division. Only asking because i am planning on creating stirling albion article tomorrow just dont want to end up having two articles. Warburton1368 (talk) 18:30, 21 August 2011 (UTC)
 * What a nice website that is. I will maybe have a go at doing that one myself if i find the time one day this week. Warburton1368 (talk) 19:43, 21 August 2011 (UTC)
 * Just in the process of creating the Albion Rovers Page. That website appears not to be the real site see .Warburton1368 (talk) 18:13, 22 August 2011 (UTC)
 * I know rather odd its the same with East fifes page. Ive done Albion Rovers, Stirling and Queens Park. Although the transfer section has proven tricky but ive just found lists of transfer for second and third division on STV Website. Going to work through the third division teams. Is your hand ok.Warburton1368 (talk) 16:06, 24 August 2011 (UTC)
 * Would you mind having a look at some of the transfer sections on some of the new season pages. They appear to be heavily not my thing. Warburton1368 (talk) 21:47, 25 August 2011 (UTC)
 * Thanks. Im not so bad at creating the pages but the transfer sections are a total nightmare for me. Next season creating all these articles at the beginning. so much easier to do week by week rather than all at once. Warburton1368 (talk) 22:01, 25 August 2011 (UTC)
 * Just wondering are you planning on creating Arbroath and brechin seasons. I can start them tomorrow night no problem but don't want to create something you are planning on doing.Warburton1368 (talk) 22:41, 28 August 2011 (UTC)

User:Davham92
Thats them improved. Could do with further expansion but not much info available on them yet.Warburton1368 (talk) 21:41, 21 August 2011 (UTC)

Arbroath, Brechin and falkirk
Ill start creating them. Thanks for letting me know about the falkirk squad profiles. Some of them are wrong so appreciate that. Warburton1368 (talk) 14:52, 29 August 2011 (UTC)

Errors
Yeah, I get those occasionally, no idea how to rectify them I'm afraid. I'd advise you to inquire over at GiantSnowman 17:57, 30 August 2011 (UTC)

Fife Cup
Is the Fife cup essentially a friendly tournament or is it a proper cup. Struggling to find out much about it. Dunfermline are playing Raith rovers tonight don't know whether to create a new section for it or list under friendlies. Warburton1368 (talk) 18:35, 30 August 2011 (UTC)
 * Think ill create a separate section and table for it to be on the safe side.Warburton1368 (talk) 19:06, 30 August 2011 (UTC)
 * Never heard of it at all. I had heard of the Fife cup just not exactly what it was. I hit a snag with updating the stats on Raith rovers for the Fife cup it appears the template only takes a maximum of four cups. So i managed to update the dunfermline stats ok as they only participate in three competitions. The result is included just not the stats for it.Warburton1368 (talk) 18:32, 31 August 2011 (UTC)
 * Just the stats tables the disciplinary isn't a problem because its basically a wiki table so can be amended no problem. Hadn't thought of that Other would probably be our only option it only affects a handful of teams so would be easy to do. Warburton1368 (talk) 19:48, 31 August 2011 (UTC)

Jimmy Greenock
For the creation of this new article for the former Queen of the South player from the 1950s, I do have information from a friend of mine about his football career details but I have no idea how to create a wiki page from scratch.

I have him listed under our Scottish Football Task Force - Articles to be created.

Could I list Greenock's career information that I have on here in a message and could you create the page for me at all?

Here is all the information for him:

James "Jimmy" Greenock

Born in Motherwell. Signed for Queen of the South from Wishaw Juniors in July 1951.

League Season / Appearances / Goals 1951-52            26          0        1952-53             29          5        1953-54             30          3        1954-55             22          2        1955-56             0           0             1956-57             25          1        1957-58             32          1        1958-59             24          1

He was 8 seasons at Queen of the South (including his season injured 1955-56). Played in the Number 6 shirt for Queens (the old left half position). Queens were playing the the old Scottish Division One during the 1950s.

Played from 1951-59 in 236 League, League Cup and Scottish Cup matches, scoring 15 goals (3 goals in the League Cup and zero in the Scottish Cup).

1955-56 season did not play due to a bad injury.

League Cup Goals

1 versus Rangers, lost 5-2 at Ibrox Park - Season 1951-52 1 versus Motherwell, lost 2-1 at Fir Park - Season 1957-58 1 versus Motherwell, lost 2-1 at Palmerson Park - Season 1958-59

Greenock played in 48 League and Scottish Cup matches between 1951-59

Queen of the South terminated his contract at the end of the 1958-59 season and he went to play in the USA and played for the Polish Falcons in the US Soccer League.


 * Might be able to find his death record and birth record through the general register. Leave it with me. Warburton1368 (talk) 20:43, 12 September 2011 (UTC)
 * Ok got you a source of neil brown for queen of the south games total and managed to locate the location of death but not exact date as only way you can get that apparently through gro is ordering a copy of the death certificate for £12 pounds. There was no obituary in the Scotsman newspaper tried a couple of others. Not sure what the local newspapers are or else to look for it. I would use the source you found to cover the death as a ref. Warburton1368 (talk) 21:32, 12 September 2011 (UTC)
 * You did a very good job of the article. Ive added a ref to show he played for Wishaw juniors. Warburton1368 (talk) 16:08, 13 September 2011 (UTC)

Holiday
Just to say im going to be on holiday from tomorrow night. I was wondering if you are around if you would be willing to update the season articles from the midweek cup games and the league games next weekend. If not then its ok ill do it when i come back. Thanks Warburton1368 (talk) 19:15, 18 September 2011 (UTC)
 * Thanks for updating the season articles. Just to let you know ive put a request in to change my username to Edinburgh Wanderer which will hopefully happen soon. Just wanted to remove my surname. Hopefully this one will redirect to the new one. Warburton1368 (talk) 19:39, 26 September 2011 (UTC)
 * Thats my new user name set up although i have lost some of my old edits but you know where i am if you need me. Edinburgh   Wanderer  15:06, 27 September 2011 (UTC)
 * I did but after one day it feels like ive never been away. Edinburgh   Wanderer  15:14, 27 September 2011 (UTC)

Grammar
Hi there. Firstly, thanks for all the hard work put into Scottish football articles on the site thus far, keep it up. However, I suggest you read this article before correcting any further grammatical "issues" on said articles - namely, clubs are plural 90% of the time, so "Aberdeen have", not "Aberdeen has". Thanks! &mdash; Joseph Fox 04:21, 25 September 2011 (UTC)

New article Kevin Holt

 * Its probably an apprentice contract which most clubs have but to me he is playing for a notable team in a notable division so hes as entitled as anyone. Although you just never know with the way some AFDs go. I Would certainly vote keep. If you want a further opinion i would ask User:GiantSnowman what he thinks as out of us all hes probably the most experienced on these things. Ill ask him if you want. Edinburgh   Wanderer  18:24, 27 September 2011 (UTC)


 * Looks fine to me; he has played in a fully-professional league so meets WP:NFOOTBALL. Even young players in the Premiership will have been studying at least up to the end of high school, while there are a number of older players in other notable leagues who have started studying; there are two at Wycombe Wanderers, and we shouldn't forget Kenny Deuchar, who was a practising doctor even while in the SPL. Studying doesn't impact upon his place as professional footballers. GiantSnowman 18:51, 27 September 2011 (UTC)

Player Stats
Yeah although would be a big job to start with. Not so much the spl ones as i have done them before but the SFL could be tricky as soccerbase and soccerway sometimes miss matches. But definitely up for helping. Edinburgh  Wanderer  19:52, 29 September 2011 (UTC)
 * Ive been watching the game too Shamrock have played well most of the match wanted them to get something out of it. Yeah that sounds good happy to do that. Edinburgh   Wanderer  20:42, 29 September 2011 (UTC)
 * If you need any help with Career stats I can create the tables for you, as I am getting a bit experienced with them now. Adam4267 (talk) 21:54, 29 September 2011 (UTC)
 * Sources are starting to annoy me i am still happy to help. If i am honest the third division will probably be the hardest. To prove a point have a look at User:Edinburgh Wanderer/List of Livingston F.C. Managers and then look at [] they have dates and stats totally wrong even managers down twice when they only managed the team once. Having to double source everything and its proving difficult.  Edinburgh   Wanderer  18:18, 30 September 2011 (UTC)

Filip Mentel
Dear DUCKISJAMMMY, hello. I would rather Filip Mentel wasn't deleted as I think despite him not meeting our WP:nfootball, his being at Man City, playing for U17 U21 for Slovakia, and at Clyde [] would seem to indicate enough for us to want to perhaps keep the article on him. A look at Slovakia national under-21 football team would seem to me to make it a bit of a shame to add another red link there. There is no mention there that his dad is the U21 gk coach! But if you really want it deleting I think you would probably win an Afd. So I'll leave it in your court. Best wishes, (Msrasnw (talk) 20:26, 30 September 2011 (UTC))
 * Do you think it is possible he might meet WP:GNG If a topic has received significant coverage in reliable sources that are independent of the subject, it is presumed to satisfy the inclusion criteria for a stand-alone article? Via this and  and this  and this . Best wishes, (Msrasnw (talk) 22:12, 30 September 2011 (UTC))