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Woods Hole Research Center
Yeah, it looks like a recreation of the same copyvio. I deleted it again; thanks for the notice! --Delirium 22:11, 12 November 2005 (UTC)

AfD
Hi, when you list an article on AfD you're supposed to follow the "this article's entry" link in the tag and put the text there, not on the article's talk page. No harm done, I've moved it. –user:Mysid 13:20, 15 November 2005 (UTC)

Hello Davidrowe
Not sure whether this is the right place to post, but the main thing is you get the info. Re copyright: Well to be honest I am very confused about the subject and will leave you to decide after explaining the situation regarding the image. The Dymaxion 3 image was originally a very poor black and white photo(not mine) taken from the internet that I spent hours working on to make into a presentable image. As such I felt that I had copyright over it. However reading some articles about copyright especially USA copyright seems to make it clear that I have infringed copyright as my image came from the original source!!! So what if I had done a pencil drawing of it ?!

--Zed1 12:17, 17 November 2005 (UTC)

Username change
Your request has been completed. Regards &mdash; Dan | Talk 03:02, 19 November 2005 (UTC)

Architecture portal
A nomination process for articles featured on portal pages is quite common for the more active portals, such as the Portal:Trains. At the moment, the architecture portal is not very active, however. Until that changes, feel free to just update it as you see fit. Burschik 08:49, 24 November 2005 (UTC)

Thanks for setting up nomination pages. Burschik 10:13, 25 November 2005 (UTC)

Please Review And Comment
Please review and comment on entries 10 - 12 on the talk:architecture page. Much thanks. normxxx 02:48, 26 December 2005 (UTC)

I will read these now, but won't have time to write until tommorrow. Also to you and others, please vote and nom for portal features at WP:ARCH Best   DVD+ R/W 02:52, 26 December 2005 (UTC)

Re:Your Comments about Xanadu House
Hey there, thanks for your comments. I don't know anything about Roy Mason apart from the information in the Wikipedia article for him (which I also created). I got the details about his murder from a Google Groups posting from 1996 (see ). What other architecture articles do you think I should focus on? — Wackymacs 20:03, 5 January 2006 (UTC)


 * Which specific projects you want to focus on I'm not sure. Go with what interests you. The featured articles in architecture seem to me to lack in contemporary and modern projects, and you've shown on Xanadu house that you have a knack for finding intriguing details, so maybe there are more recent projects that you can do as well. also thanks to you DVD+ R/W 20:15, 5 January 2006 (UTC)

Image:Poznan Poland.jpg
This is an excellent photograph. Is it ok for this image to be a selected article at the architecture portal? DVD+ R/W 21:44, 7 January 2006 (UTC)
 * I'm pleased to hear that. Of, course, do whatever you please. If you need the pic in a better resolution contact me at " omasz @ centrum.cz " or leave your e-mail here Mohylek 23:42, 7 January 2006 (UTC)

Some corrections about Bruno Taut
Dear DVD R W,

Thank you for the 'Welcome' message.

I made some corrections in the Bruno Taut entry. When he was invited to Turkey in 1936, he was offered a teaching position not in Istanbul Technical University, but in State Academy of Fine Arts (Devlet Güzel Sanatlar Akademisi), alongside Ernst Egli and Robert Vorhölzer. The German speaking professors who taught in the former were Paul Bonatz, Clemens Holzmeister and Gustav Oelsner. Rudolf Belling, who was a sculptor, first taught in the academy, then transferred to the ITU.

In early and mid thirties many prominent German academics and artists who had to leave the Third Reich because of their racial backgrounds or political convictions were invited and warmly welcomed by the young Turkish republic, believing that their joining Turkish universities would immensely contribute to the academic development of these institutions. This proved true.

Besides teaching, Bruno Taut was commissioned by the Turkish Ministry of Education to design a number of educational institutions. I quoted in my edit some significant examples. His last design in 1938, however, was the catafalque for Ataturk's funeral in Istanbul. He unexpectedly died a few months after this event and was buried in Edirnekapı National Cemetery as the first and the only Christian. This also indicates that how much he was loved and admired in Turkey.

S4950 10:07, 13 January 2006 (UTC)

Well nice work, can you include more of this in the article? With references? DVD+ R/W 19:24, 13 January 2006 (UTC)

Castelvecchio
Thanks for patching the Eisenman attribution, I did actually take the picture, after all! Do you know of an easy way to simply change the image filename? Or do I follow step 1, 2 3, etc. Dogears 01:54, 23 January 2006 (UTC)


 * The easiest way I know is to re upload it. There might be an easier one though. DVD+ R/W 19:06, 23 January 2006 (UTC)

Happy if you'd use any of the images, anytime. &mdash; Where's the best place to learn about current activity / coordination in Architecture? (WikiProject Architecture, Talk:Architecture, Portal_talk:Architecture)?, or is everyone doing their own thing.
 * Any of those places is fine, as are user talk pages. Do you still want to rotate Portal Selected articles and pictures weekly? That would be great, DVD+ R/W 01:21, 11 March 2006 (UTC)

Image: Ramp at Lingotto Factory
David, I am confused by the positioning of the image on the page. It looks as if it were turned sideways. Shouldn't the skylight at the top of the ramp spiral be at the 12 o'clock position rather than the 9 o'clock position?

Simon


 * Perhaps you are right. I am not the photographer, I reposted it from the Commons and Italian Wikipedia, and have never been to the place. As it is, is the view as it was posted on the Commons. Upward photographic views, such as this, are often disorienting, but are also the best and only way to photograph spaces such as this atrium. If you want to rotate it feel free. DVD+ R/W 22:07, 6 February 2006 (UTC)

Renaming an article's main title
I just submitted an article called Wps1, and since it is a radio station, the proper capitalization should be "WPS1". I couldn't quite figure out how to make the proper capitalizing change. The only article that I could find was on renaming a "category," so I'm not really quite sure what to do about this. Could you help me out on this? Thanks! Mnemosyne 07:01, 21 February 2006 (UTC)

No problem. I've moved it already, but for future reference, select move (between history and watch on the edit bar) the article to the correct title. A redirect is then created as well. DVD+ R/W 20:41, 21 February 2006 (UTC)

Thanks
Thanks for reverting stupid vandalism from my userpage. :) — Wackymacs 19:17, 7 March 2006 (UTC)

No problem, DVD+ R/W 19:22, 7 March 2006 (UTC)

Selected picture candidates
It's nice to have a fresh image on the top when people visit, to see progress in the nominations, and to encourage people, who get top billing on the page for a while. No big deal, I'll make the change. Rotating every two weeks, oh I see - thought you wanted to share the picure task (which I'd be happy to help with), but you mean rotating the Portal every two weeks - that schedule is just right. Dogears (talk)  05:26, 11 March 2006 (UTC)


 * Rotate every other week then? There's certainly enough articles. — 22:48, 7 April 2006 (UTC)

User 67.177.204.189
...vandalized user Yansa's user page. -Mystaker1 04:25, 25 March 2006 (UTC)

User 69.209.23.209
I noticed at User talk:69.209.23.209 you warned the user that if he continued to vandalize pages, he would be blocked. He has since vandalized Talk:Abortion with two edits, as can be seen | here. Just an FYI. DonaNobisPacem 06:13, 4 April 2006 (UTC)

Deconstructivism
Hey there - I've added a bit to the discussion on deconstructivism and agree it's under-represented perhaps we can collaborate --Mcginnly 14:06, 12 April 2006 (UTC)
 * Sure, I'll help. Much of your essay (reprinted on Talk:Deconstructivism) could be useful on the article page. One thing I notice right away is that the quotes and references need to be wikified. That would be a good first step, to start a references section or bibliography; then move text, and write or rewrite. DVD+ R/W

I've added the citation, but I'm sure i've seen this done with wikimarkup somewhere where it just links down to the citations in the references section. Would you like to comment on my concerns over the 'criticism' paragraph?--Mcginnly 19:31, 24 April 2006 (UTC)
 * Hi again,
 * Thanks for adding the citation. I formatted it and added a notes section. You've raised some thoughful concerns, feel free to move them over to edits in the article space. I have moved over a passage from your essay and two quotations. I would like to see everything expanded somewhat, especially the exhibition section, the article seems to be progressing. DVD+ R/W 20:13, 24 April 2006 (UTC)

Regarding 'What's Next'
I've also really enjoyed collaborating on the deconstructivism article and I'll certainly give some thought to it. I wonder if Architectural theory might be a rather large subject to tackle in one article and might be best as a bit of a series. I have some time commitments (At 34 years old, I've actually finally got round to doing the RIBA part II examination, for which I have written exams in the next to weeks) So I need to be concentrating on that at the moment. Mid May though all of that is over and I'm back to design projects and the like.

Regarding the deconstructivism article - I'm quite new to wikipedia so I'll defer to your judgement on whether it's ready for peer review or not. I just wonder if it might be prudent to try and canvas a concensus with some of the other contributors first? (Certainly m0lusk anyway). I think maybe I'll drop a line to him on his talk page asking him a) how he feels about my tweaking of his criticisms and b) whether he has any problems with us submitting it. --Mcginnly 16:07, 26 April 2006 (UTC)


 * As it's been talked about quite a bit on the decon pages I've now had a bit of a read on International style (architecture). It's not too bad but could probably use a lick and spit. There's no mention of Brasilia, the building list is pretty light, I've got a feeling the phase was coined by Philip C. Johnson, there is no criticism whatsoever, no Oscar Niemeyer!, no De la Warr Pavillion, No mendelsohn (I have some photos of a recent exhibition of his - does taking photos of exhibitions constitute a breach of copyright?). The history list has only had half a dozen edits and the talk page has one swede defining functionalism in sweden and an anti-modernist palpably straining at the leash to delete the entire article. Seems like fertile ground for another collaboration. What do you think? --Mcginnly 16:47, 26 April 2006 (UTC)


 * Another thought - there's practically nothing written on architectural Expressionism. Jencks gives it quite a mention in 'Modern Movements in architecture', Pevsner very little in 'Pioneers of modern design' and Frampton's pretty light on it too. The little I saw in my student days I always quite warmed to as an organic early approach to modernism, but I think I'd quite enjoy finding out a lot more.--Mcginnly 00:12, 27 April 2006 (UTC)
 * There was no entry for Expressionist architecture, I just started it. Have a go at it if you'd like and are able. DVD+ R/W 05:21, 5 May 2006 (UTC)

Peer Review
I've had a very nice reply from mOlusk and seems we're all in agreement about peer review, so I've had a go at submitting it. Think I've done it correctly. I'll have a stab at inviting some architectural wikipedians to have a look too. Do you think we can add a note to Portal:Architecture I'm not sure what the etiquette is for editing that page, looks like I shouldn't tamper.--Mcginnly 11:15, 27 April 2006 (UTC)
 * Thanks for nominating deconstructivism for peer review, going directly to Featured articles seems a little presumptuous. Like any page on wikipedia, you can edit WP:ARCH. I encourage you especially to nominate and vote on Portal:Architecture/Selected article candidates, and Portal:Architecture/Selected picture candidates. I nominated deconstructivism for selected article this morning. DVD+ R/W 18:41, 27 April 2006 (UTC)

Featured Status
Congratulations - Looks like Deconstructivism has now got featured status. Great stuff!--Mcginnly 06:56, 5 June 2006 (UTC)
 * Actually we might be a little premature. User_talk:Raul654 seems to suggest we've got another week or so at FA requests before approval - the article doesn't come up with a star next to yet and isn't listed in the index of featured articles (may this is just lag though).--Mcginnly 14:23, 5 June 2006 (UTC)

Dong bridge photo
Yes, use it as you wish... Sorry for the slow response, I'm behind a firewall in China. prat 01:02, 14 April 2006 (UTC)

Kiev Metro
Seeing that you hold quite a bit of knowledge on Architecture then perhaps you would be able to give us some professional advice.

The argument is this: If an architect designs a structure (say a metro station) which includes political slogans and motives in the decoration (say Communist symbols). Then years later under polical reasons someone decides to remove them. Wouldn't that be a conflict with the original design of that sturucture, based on the architects plan? Perhaps you would like to comment on Talk:Kiev Metro. Btw I love architecture as well, but I do lots of undergound articles i.e. this --Kuban Cossack 11:37, 3 May 2006 (UTC)
 * I applaud your efforts and enthusiasm. My comments though are for you to show the splendor of the decorations and the design that you think is being ruined, rather than simply state it. Make sure you stay NPOV, but add more descriptions and illustrations of the details that were removed by the contractors. Also try to identify the architects and politicos involved. Explain this incident well, as it carries alot of intrigue and complexity and will make Kiev Metro a better article. DVD+ R/W 21:38, 3 May 2006 (UTC)

Expressionist Architecture
Another collaboration sounds like a great idea - I've just ordered a book on it too..... I'd like to get Deconstructivism fully up to par first though if that's ok with you. I've also just got a book about the Russian Avant Garde for use with the 'history' etc.etc. any ideas how image copyright works in this instance - if I digiphotograph some of the drawings is that copyvio (they're all 80-100 years old) or would the 1990 Moma copyright apply? --Mcginnly 14:22, 5 May 2006 (UTC)
 * You can probably use or  . Remember also to cite the book in the references section. DVD+ R/W 23:21, 5 May 2006 (UTC)

Thanks for that. I've done some searching in the German Wikipedia and there's a few articles written up in there that aren't in the English. Rather than re-invent the wheel it seems sensible to get them translated somehow. check out Der Sturm (Zeitschrift) (Which I think means magazine with my schoolboy German). We mention this publication in the timeline but it doesn't come up in the english wiki. Is there a formal process to get stuff translated or (heaven forbid) do we have to do it ourselves? --Mcginnly 21:54, 14 May 2006 (UTC)

Thanks for your gracious thanks (slightly embarassed). It's fair to say I've had enough now of translating the German wiki. Love that image of The monument - It's in Jencks modern movements in architecture - I was really surprised to find Gropius doing something so expressionistic, his modernist stuff is so clinical in comparison - it's got some real Hadid qualities to it as well I think. To business:-


 * Deconstructivism - It's pretty close I agree. It's has an inherent problem in that it's not a dead subject and has yet to run it's course, so any investigation of 'legacy' etc. is pretty difficult at the moment. Perhaps we could add a timeline? I think featured article nomination would be a good idea if not least to receive some additional criticism and get some more eyes looking at the subject, I feel I've got a bit too close to it now to be super-critical about it.
 * Expressionism - Too be honest I'm still waiting on a book from amazon (Promised now in early June) so I've been a bit lame about writing prose in the article, (congrats to you on that one). The timeline was constructed from 3-4 books which I'll spend the next week or so citing. I like the way it's progressing though. I suggest we keep chucking stuff into it the way we have been, as thoughts arise, and then in a week or so perhaps we should crit each others paragraphs and then form a consensus as to 'editorial thrust' which it's probably a bit lacking in. eg. what are the most tell-tale features of the style, what is it's place in architectural history, how is it still relevant etc.etc.--Mcginnly 00:19, 25 May 2006 (UTC)

Whoops!
Should have looked on the German wikipedia first I think - just found http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Expressionismus_%28Architektur%29, some great pics though looks a bit short. Anyway I might have a stab at a translation and then post it in the article for us to chop about as we see fit. --Mcginnly 01:08, 15 May 2006 (UTC)
 * You can use Altavista's "Babelfish" to translate any phrase, or an entire web page: translate article from German to English —dogears (talk) 13:38, 11 June 2006 (UTC)

Vandalism by User:24.104.22.1
User:24.104.22.1 is vandalizing again. Can you put a stop to it? --Flex 18:08, 16 May 2006 (UTC)


 * Next time, report them to WP:AIV. DVD+ R/W 18:12, 16 May 2006 (UTC)

Architecture Portal - Featured Portal
Hi, I've been thinking about my wikipedia experience in general recently. It might be my misaprehension, but it seems there aren't enough people writing about architecture. I can't accept that in a entire global community there are only 2 people prepared to spend some time sorting out articles on really important aspects of architectural history. What the subject really needs greater exposure. To this end, once we've finished deconstructivism and expressionist architecture how would you feel about sorting out the WP:ARCH portal to get it to featured portal status? A quick review of the criteria suggests it's not far off. Probably the timeline needs some work and a few other bits. Is there a Portal peer review process we might be able to go through now? --Mcginnly 10:04, 25 May 2006 (UTC)
 * I don't know of a portal peer review. Your right that it needs more exposure, I am not sure how to get that though. Other than nominating and rotating the selected portals regularly, I try to add to the portal when I can think of things but I am not really sure whay to do I just play it by ear. Yesterday I changed the featured picture list to thumbnails, and I need to know how it looks on other browsers and to other users. Take a look and tell me what you think? I left a message on the portal talk page on Portal talk:Architecture. DVD+ R/W 18:56, 26 May 2006 (UTC)
 * Exposure - there are 87 people listed at . Do you know anything about bots? Perhaps we could mail shot their talk pages inviting them to comment on and contribute to the portal and let them know about {[Wikipedia:WikiProject Architecture]]?
 * I don't know anything about bots, a message ring sounds like a good idea though. DVD+ R/W 01:05, 27 May 2006 (UTC)
 * Layout comments - I like the vetruvian paragraph at the start of the page, but in combination with the ideal city image it starts to look like a (classical) architectural history article. Maybe contrast the text with something super modern as the image that displays firmitas, utilitas, venustas. In fact reading it again, it is a classical architectural history - only the last 2 sentences relate to any evolution in architectural thinking since vetruvius, perhaps we should cut that down a little or just relate it to more modern ideas. I think a general user would want links higher up the page to Buildings and architects - Perhaps we could revamp the Categories box with some images next to the links - little amusing photo of Corb with glasses next to the architects link(or FLW in cape and berret), maybe a picture of The acropolis next to the buildings link. Image could also be used to illustrate the multidisciplinary range of qualities required of architects - some nice artwork sketches through to super-technical nasa-like working drawings. The featured picture thumbnails are very small on my 15' monitor and Carcassonne Pont Vieux is minute. --Mcginnly 20:38, 26 May 2006 (UTC)
 * Edit as you see fit. DVD+ R/W 01:05, 27 May 2006 (UTC)

I've added To the wikiproject talk page - what do you think?--Mcginnly 23:56, 1 June 2006 (UTC)
 * Template:Infobox Architect
 * Template:Infobox Modern building
 * Template:Infobox Historic building

thanks
thank you for welcoming me. Hdtopo 17:26, 26 May 2006 (UTC)

Deletion Comment
Something weird happened while I was adding FileHive for deletion. I just wanted to make sure the comment you left belonged to that and not the topic above it. --Crossmr 04:06, 4 June 2006 (UTC)
 * Yeah, I voted to delete it. DVD+ R/W 04:08, 4 June 2006 (UTC)

What the hell is up?
I make a simple edit to the Steven Spielberg Page, and you threaten to have me banned for blanking a page? I don't even know what "blanking a page" means. 4.178.195.46 06:03, 4 June 2006 (UTC)

There
Now I have an account. Who are you? Why did you threaten to have me banned? I am confused, what is happening? What did I do wrong? What is "blanking" a page, and how did I do it? WHO ARE YOU! Will RGC 06:18, 4 June 2006 (UTC)

Here is something of a reply and explanation. In this and this edit you inserted content out of context, namely links to the words "Nazi" and "tyrty". I interpreted it as a test or minor vandalism and sent a warning message. This edit is the one that warranted the blanking warning. It was considered blanking because you removed most, maybe 9/10ths of the page including WP:ILs and categories. It was not left blank, but nearly erased, so I sent a blanking warning because so much of the content was removed. I just changed the warning from blanking2 to blanking because it explains more about blanking and it seems from your comments that the removal of so much content was accidental. Blanking warnings sound severe because people put alot of time and effort into writing articles and it is upsetting to have them erased, whether intentionally or maliciously. Sorry for the confusion. DVD+ R/W 22:30, 4 June 2006 (UTC)

Ott Jud
Oops, sorry. Fr e ddi  e  13:50, 4 June 2006 (UTC)

Alright, I get it now
As for the "Nazi" and "tyrty", yes, those were tests. I don't understand how Wiki knows what website to link a certain word to if you don't provide one fore you. I added the Nazi link to see where the link would take me, and it took me to the Wiki page for that word. So, now I understand that links take you to the Wiki page for the word provided. "tyrty" was also a test, since that isn't a real word, it didn't take me any where.

As for the "blanking" the page, I don't know what the heck happened. I didn't delete anything on purpose, so I'm sorry about that.

Thanks for your reply. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Will RGC (talk • contribs).

Modern architecture
I could do with a bit of advice. There's been some edits to Modern architecture that state that the Grandfather of modern architecture is someone called Alex Wilkes and he designed the Roake Design Center in California. I've never heard of him or this building and it doesn't sound very NPOV to me (but the USA is a big country and I'm no expert on it's architectural history). Would you assume good faith and simply ask for sources (which I have done on the articles talk page and the (anonymous) users talk page, or do I just revert and report it as vandalism? --Mcginnly 14:50, 6 June 2006 (UTC)
 * Looks like a hoax to me too. I've never heard of him, and a google search turns up nothing. Revert it and send a test warning. DVD+ R/W 18:36, 6 June 2006 (UTC)

Admin?
I notice you're a pretty active vandal-fighter with some other good contributions over the span of a year. Do you have any interest in running for adminship? If so, drop me a line and I can craft you a nomination... (ESkog)(Talk) 02:44, 8 June 2006 (UTC)
 * Thank you for the message, and for the offer. I have been doing alot of vandal-fighting and could use the tools. If it is not too much trouble to write the nomination, I would certainly accept. DVD+ R/W 17:51, 8 June 2006 (UTC)

 ESkog would like to nominate you to be an administrator. Please visit Requests for adminship to see what this process entails, and then contact ESkog to accept or decline the nomination. A page has been created for your nomination at Requests for adminship/. If you accept the nomination, you must formally state your acceptance and answer the questions on that page. Once you have answered the questions, you may post your nomination for discussion, or request that your nominator do so.

re:Thanks
No problem, if you ever need anything, feel free to call upon me. ;-) -- from The King   of Kings  02:40, 10 June 2006 (UTC)


 * Thanks for the revert. I was seeing who was going to revert my page and ironically, it was you. :) -- from The King   of Kings  05:08, 10 June 2006 (UTC)

Update for architecture portal
The new additions to the Portal look so good, I wanted to let the glow last for a little while more. Nice collaboration and great work. Will update. — 14:10, 10 June 2006 (UTC)

RfA/Gurch
Thanks for the support; I like the "commendable", certainly! – Gurch 17:41, 12 June 2006 (UTC)

Thank you
Hi, thank you for voting in my RFA which failed eventually at a result of (91/51/8). I do not plan to run for adminship until a later date. Once again, I would like to thank you for voting. --Terence Ong (talk 14:52, 13 June 2006 (UTC)

Two more days...
Two more days until you get admin.. maybe you should've had it earlier? When your admin, vandals won't last much longer! :D -- Andeh 05:09, 15 June 2006 (UTC)
 * Thanks, I like your new owl with the head spinning. DVD+ R/W 05:14, 15 June 2006 (UTC)
 * Well, I'm going to be out of town when the thing closes, so I'll go ahead and congratulate you now. It's always good to see the community recognizing one of their premier contributors by giving them more responsibilities :) (ESkog)(Talk) 05:26, 15 June 2006 (UTC)
 * Enjoy your vacation. Thanks again. DVD+ R/W 05:48, 15 June 2006 (UTC)

User page vandalism
No probs. Knock wood on the Rfa! Looking good so far. Take care -- Samir  धर्म 07:47, 16 June 2006 (UTC)