User talk:DWaterson/Archive 2

Esther and Abi Ofarim
Please see my comments at Talk:Esther and Abi Ofarim. Best regards, gidonb 13:54, 3 January 2007 (UTC)

Justin Lee collins pic you removed
Hey dave you skanky hoe, cheers 4 the message. I edited the pic - its all cool, I give you permission to use it. Latez xxx D_winchy

Partial dates
Thanks for the advice. I guess I was getting a little carried away. A lot of the dates i took out were actually ones I had put in as an anonymus user before I signed up, but I think i may have overstepped the mark on a few other pages. I'm still getting to grips with wikipedia etiquette and i hadn't even realised there were talk pages about articles so thanks for pointing that out. Hope I've not annoyed too many people. Thanks again. Bobfos 20:45, 19 January 2007 (UTC)

Hi, I just wondered why you deleted the link that I have just added to the Norfolk Broads page. It's my first effort at contributing to Wikipedia, and I'm now wondering if it should be my last. I was careful to add it after the existing similar links, and cannot see why it has been removed, other than the cryptic 'rm spamlink', which presumably implies that it has been regarded as some sort of advert ? It is a completely non-commercial website with no external sponsorship, containing maps, photos, live information & mostly local (all free) links. (Shorebase is not a company, as clearly stated on the site, has had 293,000 hits, and is currently ranked 23 in Google, under 'Norfolk Broads'.) If I have broken some other Wiki protocol, I apologise for that, and would appreciate guidance rather than the surprise of finding my contribution neatly removed. Likewise if I am barking up the wrong tree here, please put me straight, (gently !)..... Shorebase 09:10, 21 January 2007 (UTC)

No thank you.
Edit summaries like this are unhelpful. Peter is a respected editor, and Wikipedia is not a link farm; if cats and other metadata get accidentally lost in a link purge you can just quietly reinsert them and leave a polite note because it was an honest mistake and one I've made myself more than once (I have spotted the error and fixed it myself a couple of times too). It's just one of those things that happens from time to time when articles tip over the spam event horizon. Please assume good faith and avoid using pejorative terms. Thanks, Guy (Help!) 22:08, 31 January 2007 (UTC)

WikiProject Urban studies and planning
Welcome to the project. (and what took you so long? :-). --Mcginnly | Natter 22:29, 31 January 2007 (UTC)

Past -> present
You are wrong. The show still exists, "are" not "was", if the show did not exist any more then it would be was. thanks/Fenton, Matthew Lexic Dark 52278 Alpha 771 00:36, 14 February 2007 (UTC)
 * I'm told it's basic English, we all make these mistakes though, as an editor once said: "rv past-tense; creative works "are" (not "were") unless they've been lost or destroyed" -- and I think it's quite obvious the predominant choice is the present tense, no doubt because it is correct. Also I'd not now spend the time fixing it up, that's considering you provided no source for the song, unlike plots/characters the primary source doesn't verify the theme. Secondly another editor already made the name fixes. Apparently the new revision of WP:WAF will have a paragraph on this as well. thanks/Fenton, Matthew Lexic Dark 52278 Alpha 771 01:03, 14 February 2007 (UTC)

Don't understand your comment or edit concerning material being promotional for a Museum
Hi, we do not understand what aspect was promotional; we feel the website we have is hugely educational and contributory to the public record and is not selling anything. Can you plesae be more specific about what is wrong with our contributions. As it is the remark you made is too general to know how we can contribute to wikipedia.

The issue you have of there not being enough orginal material to warrant an external link: "I cannot really see much content on your website that is sufficiently definitive or original that could not be included in the articles themselves and hence the external links are inappropriate." is completely unfounded. We are providing significant material in our website that for reasons of copyright we cannot submit to wikipedia, and so an external link to our website is of great value to researchers, historians and interested parties. Additionally there are photographs and oral histories that could not be submitted to wikipedia and are also of significant value.

Wikipedia is not the internet in its entirety, it should link to relevant material and websites, and not just try to keep people on its own site. I think the spirit of the web and linking is often lost in wikipedia.

Seayourhistory 11:47, 14 February 2007 (UTC)
 * I saw this message, and added a link to a more specific page at the museum's site, the page specifically about blacksmiths at http://www.seayourhistory.org.uk/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=74&Itemid=162, which I think adds some value to the article. A link to the exhibit as a whole doesn't add value to the article in the same way. --Eastmain 14:17, 14 February 2007 (UTC)

62.136.238.65/Pogsurf
Would suggest ignoring this user's edits, it's pointless responding to someone who thinks that you should have to prove that someone is *not* a liar. (i.e. start by assuming they are a liar.) WOuld suggest efforts be concentrated on taking action against this vandal on WP:ANI. Nssdfdsfds 17:24, 19 February 2007 (UTC)

Hollyoaks: In the City
Wikipedia does not accept user-submitted sources, they are not "reliable", I know, you know, that it is the theme tune, the average Joe Blog does not, thus verifiable cites must be given, due to the nature of the show being on digital it has a low viewing audience, thus it does not receive the kind of attention the big shows do and so there are less sources. Regarding tense: You are welcome to bring it up on the talk page, however present tense is correct. thanks/Fenton, Matthew Lexic Dark 52278 Alpha 771 18:04, 21 February 2007 (UTC)

My fault
Dwaterson said: Hi, not sure what the purpose of this edit was, I assume it was a mistake as it deleted cited sources and reintroduced spelling errors. Anyway, I've gone ahead and reverted.

Entirely my fault, I was editing in tabs and accidentally opened the wrong version of the article from the history, from which I made my changes. Bobo. 21:08, 28 February 2007 (UTC)

Relationship to Marie Rose sauce
Hi.... just a note to clear a point. Being English (ex Manchester) and living at the moment in the States, yes there is a difference between 1000 Island and Russian dressings. Whilst they are both ketchup and mayo based, whatever they put in as the tang is totally different. As a side note, they also have a sauce called cocktail sauce which they use here for prawn (or shrimp here) cocktails... that is like nothing I have ever seen back home. Hope that clears up the point... regards Phil.... Geotek 21:52, 1 March 2007 (UTC)

West Midlands WikiProject improvement drive
I wouldn't do this normally but the improvement drive nominations page has gone quiet all of a sudden. So, could you please add a nomination or support/object the current nomination on there. Thanks and happy editting! - Erebus555 21:44, 10 March 2007 (UTC)

AfD question
Hey, Dave. My name's Chris Drost. I've been backing an AfD (here) on an article for a "seduction guru" named David DeAngelo. I'm mentioning this because I've seen you around the AfD groups, and I wanted to know if I'm completely crazy for suggesting that the article be deleted. There's 6 delete votes and 7 keep votes, but the keep votes have offered, in my opinion, very little redeeming argumentation to consider. I'd just like your input on this, since you've done more AfDs than I and might be in a better perspective to gauge it. Am I just completely off-the-mark?

-- Drostie 01:10, 11 March 2007 (UTC)


 * All right, thanks for your comment. I might be okay with the NPOV rewrite that you suggest, but I doubt that it has enough sources to do that. -- Drostie 17:23, 11 March 2007 (UTC)

Mariegriffiths 00:19, 12 March 2007 (UTC)Your right I was about to delete it but you got there first. Thanks.

Lobster blogster
I saw that you suspected sockpuppetry with this user. Since he later admitted to being a sock of the indefinitely blocked user, I blocked him. If he arrives again (which he most likely will) please don't hesistate to let me know and/or post it on WP:ANI. Thanks. IrishGuy talk 01:46, 13 March 2007 (UTC)

Christiane Robbins
Hi, I noticed you put the copyvio tag on that page, but I'm concerned that the primary editor doesn't understand how his/her work is a problem, and I don't feel qualified to explain it myself to such an obviously inexperienced user. I was wondering if you might want to take some time to give your position a bit better. FrozenPurpleCube 03:28, 8 May 2007 (UTC)

Universities' external links
I noticed that you have reverted a number of my edits where I removed a multiplicity of links to different pages on a website. Whilst I understand your point that these links are not "spam" in the pure sense of the word, it would probably fall into the usage of the term as generally applied on wikipedia. I have nothing against the subjects in question, but rem the links in order to comply with WP:EL, specifically point 2 of WP:EL; and point 13 of WP:EL. I do accept that WP:EL is merely a guideline, but I hope you will agree that many of the guidance points make for a cleaner article. The same applies to the categories I removed: as an illustration, I think you will find that Category:University of Hertfordshire already belongs to the categories I deleted from the UoH page, namely Category:Universities in England Category:Education in Hertfordshire, so they were removed in accordance with my reading of WP:CAT, specifically Item 3. Thanks for your attention. Happy editing. Ohconfucius 03:34, 14 May 2007 (UTC)

St Chad's College
Hi Dave,

Hope all's well with you.

I noticed you put a copyvio on the list of Principals. I'm the author of both lists, so I'm not sure what the problem is: I thought that such a list would be appropriate for the Chad's entry (as it is for the Hatfield entry)....

Joe Cassidy j.p.cassidy@dur.ac.uk

14 May 2007

Right At Home Realty
I was away when this article was prodded. Yes, the article read "second largest independent brokerage", only because that is the only citable reference available. Note that the source article (and there were other citations) isn't current. The upcoming 2007/2008 TREB Manual and Roster will likely confirm that Right At Home is the largest independent brokerage in the GTA. At that time, I trust you won't be so hasty to prod this article, if recreated. -- Robocoder ( t|c ) 03:01, 16 May 2007 (UTC)

Admiral Lord Nelson School
I would just like to make you aware of the guiudeline for Schools at WP:NC(SCH) By which the "overdisambiguation" as you put it of This school and many like it is not only called for but justified as a usefull convention in the even overlapping school names. I will be moving it to its proper place at Admiral Lord Nelson School (Portsmouth, Hampshire) if you dissagree, please discuss further changes on the talk page. Adam McCormick 04:32, 28 May 2007 (UTC)

Orphaned non-free image (Image:DVDboxNotParticularlyDesperate.JPG)
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Active user verification
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Orphaned non-free image (Image:TV-NotParticularlyDesperate.JPG)
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Portsmouth
why did you remove a reference then place a fact tag? isn't that vandalism? similiar all the statements on future development were unsourced yet you only removed my edit, not even bothering to look yourself or place a fact tag, isn't that vandalism? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 82.26.106.121 (talk • contribs) 07:30, 24 June 2007

Winshill
The protection had expired. I re-protected the article and added a bit on the talkpage that anyone wanting to add content there should contact me or WP:RFPP. The protection will eventually expire. My guess is our tenacious little friend will show up to vandalize the article again the day the protection wears off and I'll end up protecting it again...--Isotope23 13:02, 2 July 2007 (UTC)

Zommer
Hello Dave, I didn't know the "move" function up till now (and was wondering how to save the article history". Thanks for your comment, I will take care in the future! --Zommer 13:48, 2 July 2007 (UTC)

Talk:British Rail Class 323
I have answered at least some of the questions here. Meateater 14:33, 10 July 2007 (UTC)


 * Being an anorach has its benefits! Meateater 16:57, 10 July 2007 (UTC)

Darryl Morris "Broadcaster"
Only recently an article was deleted Articles for deletion/Darryl Nathan Ernest Morris. Now a few weeks later it has resurfed again as Darryl Morris (2). The article still fails under WP:BIO. It's not been done very well. Perhaps you could look into it. Cwb61 (talk)  19:12, 11 July 2007 (UTC)

Agência Brasil images
The images were not nominated for speedy deletion, but are awaiting the real and exact source in a period of seven days. The uploader has already been warned (just a simple message) months ago about the lack of real source (the exact URL) in the nominated pictures, but he didn't provide any. Informing "www.agenciabrasil.gov.br" is not a source, because I can upload any picture I want and give a root URL as source. The uploader has made some copyvios here and in Commons, therefore there is a real license problem here. Dantadd 14:37, 13 July 2007 (UTC)

"Cheers" Condescending?
I notice you sign almost everything with "cheers" []. I am not sure why you do it. It makes no sense and it is far from good natured in Afd because there is no need for thanks, cheers etc. Are you really trying to upset other editors in Afd? or can you not stop yourself from signing yourself in the w**nkerism? It's certainly beyond me. It lacks any kind of subtlty. Cheers Mike33 06:47, 14 July 2007 (UTC)

Removal of warnings
This was brought up recently on ANI, and based on my own investigation of the page history, it appeared that you had set the whole thing off. I find it odd, though, that you consider "Policy does not prohibit users from removing comments from their own talk pages" to be support for your position, when it was precisely the statement I was basing my reaction on. Even if "archiving is preferred", saying that removing them is "considered vandalism", at least, IS out of line.

In fact, I just realized how strange it is that you linked a historical version of WP:UP which does not actually back up your claim any more than today's does, and in fact supports mine, yet linked the CURRENT version of WP:ARCHIVE. Look here, there's nothing of the sort, and it was in fact added by an IP a month later, in an undiscussed reversion to this version from March. The wording in question had been removed in april to the talk page, where a discussion of it failed to pick up any momentum. Nevermind that WP:ARCHIVE is NOT a policy or guideline.

In short, policy does not "appear to be broadly with you." Removing warnings is not against policy, it is not "considered vandalism", and the latter claim on your part was a personal attack. That he lost his temper due to such attacks from you and others and was blocked does not excuse your own actions. --Random832 22:55, 17 July 2007 (UTC)

Rhostyllen
Rhostyllen has been unelted in accord with your requwest on WP:DRV. DES (talk) 07:37, 24 July 2007 (UTC)

Tagging images NonCommercial @ Wikimedia Commons
Hi, thank you for your efforts in finding non-commercial images on Wikimedia Commons. Whenever you request a file for deletion, please inform the uploader, such that they actually know that they did something wrong. Thanks, -- Bryan ( talk|commons ) 11:23, 10 August 2007 (UTC)

Peterborough references
I've removed the scrolling from the refrence list due to the statement in WP:CITE that "Scrolling reference lists should never be used, because of issues with readability, accessibility, printing, and site mirroring". David Underdown 10:47, 24 August 2007 (UTC)
 * Well I think the major concern in the accessibility, scrolling segments do not work well for those who use screen readers and other such software. David Underdown 11:06, 24 August 2007 (UTC)

AfD nomination of Palatinate (newspaper)
An article that you have been involved in editing, Palatinate (newspaper), has been listed for deletion. If you are interested in the deletion discussion, please participate by adding your comments at Articles for deletion/Palatinate (newspaper). Thank you. The Islander 15:05, 27 August 2007 (UTC)

Paptimus Scirocco
I agree that this article needs to be fixed, and I've already made a few changes, but I would not delete or redirect it, considering this character's final epic confronation with the protagonist of ZETA Gundam, Kamille Bidan. Shaneymike 14:24, 6 September 2007 (UTC)

Editing of Wikipedia by the media
Heya, I saw your edit on that article and just wanted to say thanks, and keep up the good work! :-) - Ta bu shi da yu 07:50, 12 September 2007 (UTC)

Ar Hyd y Nos
I've changed it to something a little more specific and hopefully correct Dommccas 11:30, 14 September 2007 (UTC)

Moving the sun ;-)
Hi, Thanks for moving the article about The Sun (newspaper). I was waiting for the redirect page to be deleted, but, obviously, one does need some sleep occasionally. Anyway, much appreciated you took that. ʍαμ$ʏ5043 06:31, 20 September 2007 (UTC)

Hi Dave, please could you let me know why you removed my Aldershot TownTalk Link from the Wiki Aldershot Entry? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Clthoma3 (talk • contribs) 10:37, 3 October 2007 (UTC)

MCWoody65
I see no fresh contribs since the block ... perhaps he's using a sockpuppet. Daniel Case 16:33, 3 October 2007 (UTC)


 * Yup, that was the last edit before the boom came down. Daniel Case 16:37, 3 October 2007 (UTC)

Commons image note
This is just to let you know that I've put commons:Image:Alan Light by Alan Light cropped.jpg up for speedy deletion. I've put my reasoning in the request template, but you can of course ask for a full deletion discussion. Thanks, BanyanTree 11:52, 4 October 2007 (UTC)
 * An update: Your reading, which I had not considered, was correct.  I have received an email from Mr. Light clarifying the authorship.  However, it appears that it is the wrong Alan Light, or rather than the person pictured is Alan Light, the founder of the Comics Buyer's Guide, not Alan Light, the co-founder of Vibe (magazine).  I'm not sure whether I should be amused or embarrassed.  In any case, I've modified the relevant wp pages and created a redlink to Alan Link (businessman).  Thanks muchly, BanyanTree 00:31, 5 October 2007 (UTC)

Codrington College, Barbados
Very odd the Codrington thing; in my 16 years of dealing with the alumni database not once did we make an award to a Codrington student, so although the affiliation still exists it looks pretty dormant. Unless it's a recent resurrection.

Cheers,  Adrian

Drawn Together
Just to let you know, I will be redirecting those in a little bit per the discussion. If you wonder why, please read WP:CON. The specific line would be "When consensus is referred to in Wikipedia discussion, it always means 'within the framework of established policy and practice'. Even a majority of a limited group of editors will almost never outweigh community consensus on a wider scale, as documented within policies." WP:V, WP:N, WP:RS, WP:NOT, WP:FICT, WP:WAF, and WP:EPISODE outweigh WP:ILIKEIT. TTN 23:29, 4 November 2007 (UTC)
 * Please point out where in the discussion that it is proven that real world information from reliable sources is available. That is the only way to actually fit our guidelines. Consensus is found within them, not fans. They would be the ones "owning" the articles by trying to make a false consensus to overrule various policies and guidelines. TTN 23:36, 4 November 2007 (UTC)
 * Ignore all rules is for things like WP:BLP violations, not avoiding two policies and seven guidelines just because ten fans can't just go over to TV.com. The only way numbers would matter is if their arguments weren't able to be countered by WP:ATA. These will be redirected unless you provide the information to please them or we can just place each single article up for deletion, one at a time over a few months. TTN 23:49, 4 November 2007 (UTC)

←Neither of you should have been the one to close the discussion; I have reversed it. You should get someone impartial (preferably an admin) to close the discussion now. Or just take it to AfD. &mdash; Soleil (formerly I )  00:12, 5 November 2007 (UTC)

Justin Lee Collins
Hello. Regarding the recent revert you made: You may already know about them, but you might find Template messages/User talk namespace useful. After a revert, these can be placed on the user's talk page to let them know you considered their edit was inappropriate, and also direct new users towards the sandbox. They can also be used to give a stern warning to a vandal when they've been previously warned. -- JediLofty User ¦ Talk 09:43, 13 November 2007 (UTC)

Age
Hello there. I see you updated your age on your Userpage. I don't know if you're familiar with the Age at date template but I thought I'd point you towards it as I think you might find it useful.-- JediLofty User ¦ Talk 09:43, 22 November 2007 (UTC)

Portsmouth pop density
I'll stand corrected on it not being greatest pop density in Europe - I haven't had time to check, but it looks like you know a thing or two about Portsmouth! —Preceding unsigned comment added by 90.195.202.55 (talk) 08:22, 10 December 2007 (UTC)