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WikiProject Wikify: Current Backlog Reduction Plan
Hey, I noticed you marked yourself as a member of WikiProject Wikify and you are currently listed as active. I was wondering if you would be able to assist with our current backlog reduction plan. While traditional drives are more structured month-long sprints by WikiProject Wikify members, there is currently lacking activity within the project and in order to significantly reduce the incredible backlog, members are encouraged to review all articles marked with the Underlinked Template Message - underlinked - a list of which can be found here - to analyze the worthiness of the template message on the given article. Articles that have nothing to link or are have had wikilinks sufficiently added should have the template removed to clear the backlog and make it easier for editors to find articles in genuine need of wikification. This can be done by any editor; however, all editors should consider joining if they haven't done so already. Thank you!

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Wikigraphists Bootcamp (2018 India)
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Supporting Indian Wikipedia Program resource distribution
In 2017 - 2018, the Wikimedia Foundation and Google working in close coordination with the Centre for Internet and Society (CIS), Wikimedia India chapter (WMIN) and user groups will pilot a program encouraging Wikipedia communities to create locally relevant and high-quality content in Indian languages. This program (Code name: Project Tiger) will:
 * (a) Support active and experienced Wikipedia editors through the donation of laptops and stipends for internet access and
 * (b) Sponsor a language-based contest that aims to address existing Wikipedia content gaps.

The objective of the program is to provide laptops and internet stipends for existing editors who need support to contribute more actively. 50 basic model Acer Chromebooks and Internet stipends for 100 contributors are available for distribution. Provided resources are the sole property of the beneficiaries and should be used for the betterment of the movement.

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Project Tiger Writing Contest
In 2017 – 2018, the Wikimedia Foundation and Google working in close coordination with the Centre for Internet and Society (CIS), Wikimedia India Chapter (WMIN) and user groups from India, are piloting a program encouraging Wikipedia communities to create locally relevant and high-quality content in Indian languages. This program will (a) support active and experienced Wikipedia editors through the donation of laptops and stipends for internet access and (b) sponsor a language-based contest that aims to address existing Wikipedia content gaps.

Phase (a) has been completed, during which active contributors were awarded laptops and internet stipends. Phase (b) will be a contest in which editors will come together and develop a writing contest focused on content gaps. Each month three individual prizes will be awarded to each community based on their contribution for the month. The prizes worth 3,000 INR, 2000 INR, and 1,000 INR, will be awarded to the top contributors for each month. The contest started at March 1, 2018, 0:00, and will end at May 31, 2018, 23:59 (IST). Useful links are as follows:


 * Sign up at: Project Tiger Writing Contest/Participants
 * List of the articles can be referred at: Project Tiger Writing Contest/Topics
 * Submit/report your articles/contributions at: https://tools.wmflabs.org/fountain/editathons/project-tiger-2018-en
 * For more details, rules, FAQ etc. kindly refer: Project Tiger Writing Contest

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12 years of adminship, today.
Wishing DaGizza a very happy adminship anniversary on behalf of the Wikipedia Birthday Committee! Chris Troutman ( talk ) 12:41, 28 March 2018 (UTC)

Invitation to WikiProject Portals
WikiProject Portals has been rebooted.

You are invited to rejoin.

You definitely want to see this. Major undertaking underway:

Operation: Upgrade portals

Your input is needed.

Sincerely,    &mdash; The Transhumanist   14:36, 21 April 2018 (UTC)

RfA
A friendly note. I think you're missing a couple of words in your support vote.--Bbb23 (talk) 23:13, 4 July 2018 (UTC)
 * thanks for letting me know! Gizza  (t)(c) 23:29, 4 July 2018 (UTC)
 * Glad to be of help.--Bbb23 (talk) 23:30, 4 July 2018 (UTC)

New vital articles politicians and leaders spreadsheet is ready
If you e-mail me using the "e-mail this user" function, I'll get you a copy. p b  p  01:53, 17 September 2018 (UTC)

Articles underrepresented and overrepresended at vital articles (level3, level4 level5)
Hi, I have noticed that some fields at level 3-5 are seriously underrepresended o overrepresented (there is a lot of it... but I will show only the most obvious examples in my)


 * 1) Currently we have clearly underrepresented fcecbook topics at vital articles pages. Facebook Stories it is article which should be describe in every Wikipedia but it has parent topic at the level 5 (Facebook Messenger), and is omnissed at the level5 (If we have on the level 5 topics such like Snapchat or Britney Spears, facebook stories also is qualifing to include based on consensus here. It is also quite schockingly that Mark Zuckerberg is at the level 5 and Louis Armstrong is at the level 3 (two levels difference?)
 * 2) Currently we have littly too many compossers at the level 3 and littly to few writers at the level 3. Louis Armstrong do not deverse for better level than Queen band and Igor Stavinsky probably do not deverse for better evel than Pyotr Ilyich Tchaikovsky. At this level we also do not have vital writers such like: Victor Hugo, Geoffrey Chaucer, Hans Christian Anderssen
 * 3) Even if we have a lot of underrepresented topics at VA list, clearly the most underrepresented field at VA is: "philosophy and religion". It is no way that: Saint Nicholas is at the level 5 is not at the level 3 but Santa Claus (also popularised by The Coca-Cola Company which is currently at the level 5) is at the level 4. It is no way that: Baba Yaga is at the level 4 but Bogeyman is not listed even at the level 5, it is no way that: Ares (generally every common/average person heard about Ares) currently is winning nomination to removing article from level 4 to the level 5  but Senet (most common people who are not interested in board game really do not know what is senet) is represented over nine mench at the level 4 (it seems to me that Ares is more vital than Senet because of 'notoriety for common people also is reflection of vitality, Cristiano Ronaldo clearly have fewer team achivements than Toni Kroos but Cristiano is more vital just due to notoriety and it is not confusing noterry for vitality). Based on fact that religious figures such like Jesus or Moses are staying at the level 3 it seems to me that too many fewer vital people than Jesus has been mistakly omnissed at the level 3 (maybe users some time age were not couraged to add more religious figures which are not vital like moses and jesus but vital at the level 3). For example Pope John Paul II is one of the most famous not-Italian popes and he is great in Poland (very honestly) at the same level what Nicolaus Copernicus who is at the level 3 (why John Paul can not be at the level 3 if we have two Polish sciencefists?). What do you think about my points? Cheers Dawid2009 (talk) 22:24, 2 October 2018 (UTC)
 * Honestly I was not only going to share my thoughts about several points but I am also generally going to talk about vital article project. What we could do to this project better work. You belive Zuckerberg can be fewer vital for next 10 years (read Facebook loss his fame) and there are also people in our project who belive that Arnold Schwarzenegeer will be much more vital for next 10 years (read Schwarceenegeer will be icon of fitness culture). I belive that it make no sense when we try declass Zuckerbeg based on such opinions or overrate Schwarzenegger based on such opinions. Our mission regarding the "Vital Articles" project is as quoted "Vital articles are lists of subjects for which Wikipedia should have corresponding high-quality articles. We should try faster correctedd artile about Mark Zuckerberg than he will be fewer vital. Anyway currently fact that more and more people are going from facebook to instagram is irrelevant to evidence that Facebook will be fewer vital because of Instagram clearly is part of facebook (vital and popular just thank to faebook and Mark Zuckerberg) and it only show fact how much vital is Zuckerberg. I also do not see issue to Facebook Messenger be at the level 5 and Facebook stories at the level 5 too for two things: 1. At the level we have articles which are important among various 50 000 articles in enwiki (read facebook stories) articles important amog 20 000 articles in ENwiki (read facebook messenger) 2. We have accepted figures such like Britney Spears who are not important in history yet I would remove some of the directors first. - Generally in my opinion Bill Gates should be at the level 3 such like Henry Ford (although we have some companies too low such like the coca-cola company at the level 5). I agree that we have too many filmmakers but we should moved Auguste and Louis Lumière from level 5 to the level 4 and add them on the same level what some directors from level 3 to level4. Your last point is specific to football - I do not know what you understand in my wording but I did not tell that Kroos is more vital than cristiano. I told why we also could sometimes confused noterity for vitality. For example we unquestionably should not try explain that George Best is not vital at the level 5 because of he played short time in premier league and he never played at world cup but we unquestionably should try explain he is vital thank to popularity his popularity, reputacion despite not great career. Also not "vital" articles which are popular topics (such like Loch Ness Monster or Mehran Karimi Nasseri) and have partent topics at the level 4 could be described at the level 5. Why we can not describe Nasseri if we have Authentication and even Passport at the level 4? Currently he is not listed but on that basics I could suggest that some of tiopics which do not have priorited in academic books could be accepted at vital articles (but not necesarilly all if we will do not have 15 000 people). Dawid2009 (talk) 21:36, 3 October 2018 (UTC)

Thoroughfares at the level 5 ?

When I have been check page at d:Wikidata:Statistics/Wikipedia I have noticed that a lot of Wikipedias has articles about Thoroughfares. If we have a lot of cities at the level 5 (and maybe some sections overrepresented), what do you think about adding throughfares? In online ecyclopedia throughfares are valuable to describe. Currently we have geography underrepresented (for example mountains at physical geography) but I think that maybe it would be possible and reasonable goal? BTW outside philosophy and religion, second field which maybe is underrepresented is: technology. Currently we have hackers at the level 5 although we do not have hacking. Also user Wikid77 suggested here change the limit probably due to this reason. Cheers. Dawid2009 (talk) 21:11, 8 October 2018 (UTC)

question
Hi Gizza, I have question to you related with vital article project. Do you can see |Americas|South_America|North_America|History_of_South_America|History_of_North_America|History_of_the_Americas here and |History_of_Earth|World|History_of_the_world|Latin_America|Latin_American_culture|History_of_Latin_America|Western_world|History_of_Western_civilization here ? What do you think about listing history of regions and regions in this way:
 * Level 2: South America and North America
 * Level 3: (South America), (North America), History of the Americas (instead listing "History of North America" and "History of South America"), History of the Latin America, *History of the United States, Pre-columbian era
 * Level 4: Latin America, Mesoamerica, Americas
 * Level 5: Western World

What do you think? Dawid2009 (talk) 20:45, 29 January 2019 (UTC)
 * In my opinion "History the Americas" is better term for historical context than History of South America and History of North America because of "the Americas" often is considered as synonym of "New World" (we list History of the World at the level 1 but World is not listed on any level what is argument why terms such like "World" or "New World" should be considered speciffically with history) and readers more often are going to search term: "History of Americas" instead "History of South America" or "History of North America". Also If we resign from listing "History of North America" we will have more chances to add on level 3: "History of United States" . It makes sense because of history of USA is more popular for our readers than "History of India" (listed at the level 3) + listing this article is good when we have 3 French politicans figures and 3 Russian politican figures but none English-language country get more than 2.
 * Based on fact that Latin/Latin America is more comparable concept t things such like "The West", "New World", "Civilisation" I think that "History of Latin America" is more important than "Latin America" while "Latin America" is quite vague term (Latin America is more popular term than "The West" and less vague than "the weast" but still littly vague). I also consider "History of Latin America" as something more important than "Latin American culture". In my opinion "Latin American culture" is not needed to VA 3 list because of in cultural context we could be foccused on countries from Latin America but not on Latin American culture (Latin America culture has more pageviews but less pagewattchers than History of Latin America).
 * I see History of Latin America as continuation of pre-Columbian era (History of Latin America can describe impact of Latin Culture during and after European Collonisation) and I think that instead listing Latin American culture; History of Latin America would be better choice. Due to fact "Latin America" is littly vague, I think that article about creation of this term would be better. Also fact that Latin music currently exist not only in Latin America but also sometimes as "Popular culture" (+ littly population of Latin-languege people in Europe) maybe could be argument to listing this.
 * If we decide add Pre-Culumbian era we could remove Mesoamerica and put Maya civilisation and Andean civilizations as subsections uder Pre-Columbian era. Maybe instead listing Mesoamerica; Caribbean Sea would be better choice becausse of physical geogrgaphy is littly weak.
 * BTW I have noticed that some time ago nomination to add Morality to the level 3 has been failed due to much overlap with ethics (despite fact ethics was level 2 article at the oment). Could you tell me how works overlap contigent at vital article list? Why it is only considered at the level 2 and 3 (even if we have difference in levels) but not on level 4 (even if we have two at the same level)? Dawid2009 (talk) 13:16, 1 February 2019 (UTC)

ArbCom 2019 special circular
   

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88
I had the weirdest situation recently (last year, probably) when someone accused me of possible bias. The user correctly deduced that "hb" stood for my hometown, but had somehow concluded, based on my discussion on Talk:Janet Nguyen, a line on my userpage about disliking "Lists of Jews" (which was a very old copypasta/meme), and "88" in my username, that I could have bias. I assured the user that "88" was my birth year, and is an extremely old handle that dates back to my first email address. 1988 was also the Year of the Dragon, hence "dragon" in the username. But I had also never even directly edited Janet Nguyen (only on the talk page), and the article was in bad shape in 2008, as a lot of stuff was/is. hbdragon88 (talk) 04:36, 10 August 2019 (UTC)

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Review of Draft article.
Hi!

I would like to get my draft article on "National Accreditation Board of Certification Bodies" reviewed.

Kindly help. — Preceding unsigned comment added by TJ0012 (talk • contribs) 09:35, 21 April 2022 (UTC)

Talk:Henry Myers (navy)
Hi DaGizza. You deleted Talk:Henry Myers (navy) a few weeks back per WP:G8. Could you take a look at this again because Henry Myers (navy) exists and looks to have existed even before you deleted the talk page. I think something might've happened when the article was moved from Henry Myers (major) to it's current title. Perhaps someone forgot to also move the talk page? -- Marchjuly (talk) 09:19, 3 May 2022 (UTC)


 * Hi thanks for picking this up. I remember trying to delete the title which had (major) in it but somehow (navy) was deleted. It have restored the talk page now.  Gizza  (talk • voy) 00:57, 4 May 2022 (UTC)
 * Thank you for taking another look at this. -- Marchjuly (talk) 04:50, 8 May 2022 (UTC)

Editor Dispute
Good afternoon,

I have had my references deleted and replaced with incomplete links by an editor who has personalized this process in a way that I find quite troubling. There was another editor who chimed in and neither of them have disclosed their conflict of interest, provided a specific issue with the content or accuracy of the content being reference. They have also refused to find a workable solution.

The dispute guidelines said to reach out to an active admin to help resolve these types of issues. I'm very concerned about the lack of transparency and independence from both editors.

Please let me know if there is something that can be done.

Thank you

Asetra (talk) 00:32, 8 June 2022 (UTC)Asetra

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Please do not add inappropriate external links to Wikipedia. Wikipedia is not a collection of links, nor should it be used for advertising or promotion. Inappropriate links include, but are not limited to, links to personal websites, links to websites with which you are affiliated (whether as a link in article text, or a citation in an article), and links that attract visitors to a website or promote a product. See the external links guideline and spam guideline for further explanations. Because Wikipedia uses the nofollow attribute value, its external links are disregarded by most search engines. If you feel the link should be added to the page, please discuss it on the associated talk page rather than re-adding it. [1] MrOllie (talk) 20:41, 7 June 2022 (UTC) I am providing a reference table in its original format for cross-reference to the state by state requirements for auto insurance coverage. Asetra (talk) 21:40, 7 June 2022 (UTC)

Wikipedia is not a place to try to improve the SEO of your law office's website. We do not regard such self published sites as usable sources. MrOllie (talk) 21:42, 7 June 2022 (UTC)

"Wikipedia uses the nofollow attribute value, its external links are disregarded by most search engines" This is about providing information, not SEO Asetra (talk) 21:43, 7 June 2022 (UTC)

Warning icon Please stop your disruptive editing. If you continue to add inappropriate external links to Wikipedia, as you did at Vehicle insurance in the United States, you may be blocked from editing. It is considered spamming and Wikipedia is not a vehicle for advertising or promotion. Because Wikipedia uses nofollow tags, additions of links to Wikipedia will not alter search engine rankings. MrOllie (talk) 21:38, 7 June 2022 (UTC)

The link is within the guidelines and does not include any alterations. If you cannot challenge the accuracy of the source page, then please be clear about what the issue is with providing accurate information to individuals. Secondly, what is your personal affiliation with the page? Asetra (talk) 21:42, 7 June 2022 (UTC)

See WP:RS. We do not use self published sites as sources. MrOllie (talk) 21:43, 7 June 2022 (UTC)

You can host the original contents of the reference on a page and cite to that which is precisely what was done. Once again, what is the issue with the actual source that is referenced? Asetra (talk) 21:46, 7 June 2022 (UTC)

The issue is We do not use self published sites as sources.. We're not going to link your law firm's web site. MrOllie (talk) 21:48, 7 June 2022 (UTC)

What is the issue with referencing an accurate, unaltered publication of the source document (especially when it exists on a reference page)? You have not addressed the issue with the source and you have not answered what your affiliation is with the page. Asetra (talk) 21:53, 7 June 2022 (UTC)

You can cite the original document, provided it otherwise meets the sourcing requirements. You cannot add a link to your web page. MrOllie (talk) 21:55, 7 June 2022 (UTC)

MrOllie's "affilation with the page" is as a long-time editor who, in this case, is ensuring that new editors such as yourself don't add inappropriate links, promotional or otherwise, to the encyclopedia. So now that it has been explained to you that you cannot link to your website, how are you going to edit productively?-- Jezebel's Ponyobons mots 21:57, 7 June 2022 (UTC)

Secondly, your repeated accusations are offensive especially when you've already acknowledged that it has no impact on search results. Once again, if you cannot challenge the accuracy of the source material or that the linked information is not accurately produced, then what is the issue with "providing information" that speaks directly to the section where the citation was inserted. Asetra (talk) 22:05, 7 June 2022 (UTC)

I am adding reference materials to several pages and happy that we are addressing these issues upfront. My goal is and has been that people have a right to access accurate information. If the issue is the page design, then I'm happy to fix that. It does not make sense that you can cite the document, but cannot provide a link to view the document in it's entirety. Asetra (talk) 22:00, 7 June 2022 (UTC)

You have been provided a link to the relevant guideline, which we all have to follow. I'm not going to debate it with you here. If you have questions about it, feel free to ask at WP:TEAHOUSE. If you continue to ignore it and link to inappropriate sites, you can expect that your edits will be reverted and your account will be blocked. MrOllie (talk) 22:13, 7 June 2022 (UTC)

You seem to be disinterested in resolving this in good faith (which is required) and have yet to raise an actual issue with the reference being provided or its accuracy. I just want to clarify what your issue is. Is the issue that the citation to the full state by state table is reproduced (without alteration) on a reference page hosted on a website that you don't like? There are additional entries to the table which are going to be added to the page for each state, but I'm holding off on adding everything else because it appears that you have unilaterally decided (in addition to making some accusations) that people should not be able to link directly to source material (whether accurate or not). Please clarify so we can attempt to resolve this in good faith. Asetra (talk) 22:24, 7 June 2022 (UTC)

Editors are not required to explain our policies and guidelines to you until you're satisfied with the answers being provided. You are adding a self-published source from your law firm. You cannot do that. If that is your only purpose in editing, then the account will be blocked. I don't expect that MrOllie will be replying further as you seem intent on not hearing what is being said. They've provided a link to WP:TEAHOUSE if you're interested, but the volunteers there will just reiterate what has been said on this page. -- Jezebel's Ponyobons mots 22:33, 7 June 2022 (UTC)

My sole purpose is to provide people access to information. As I've explained, several times, it is a link to a 100% accurate reproduction of a public document which is correctly cited and hosted on a reference page so people can view the source material in its entirety. The full table is in the body of the reference page.

Secondly, I didn't ask for an explanation of the policies. I asked for an explanation of the decision (and subsequent threats) so any issue can be remedied. We are encouraged to resolve issues in good faith which you and the other editor appear unwilling to do.

In addition, my edits were not even completed before it was blocked. There is still more information modify, within that page, specifically the table which should provide different state requirements for different automobile insurance types (UM, liability, PIP, etc) and links to the specific state statutes which mandate their purchase (preferably internal wikipedia links and government links), but I was shut down before I could even finish that.

I intend to edit and provide more information on several pages and would like to get these issues resolved before I continue to have my references and edits blocked by editors who have yet to raise an issue regarding the content of the reference or the accuracy of the content being linked.

Are you saying that you will not provide that information either?

My intention is not to argue with you. It is simply to establish the basis for your position and your threats to block contributors who provide information which you take issue with.

As you are aware, you are required to disclose any COI or affiliation with the content page. Please provide that information. I want to ensure that all cards are on the table before proceeding with the formal dispute process.

Thanks Asetra (talk) 00:10, 8 June 2022 (UTC) Asetra (talk)Asetra Asetra (talk) 00:22, 8 June 2022 (UTC)

Achim Zeman
Hi, dear DaGizza, i'm sorry, but it is in fact artfacts.net and not artefacts.net - perhaps you mean another page than the one i intended? I thus reverse your change, okay? Kind regards, --Naomi Hennig (talk) 11:45, 8 June 2022 (UTC)


 * Hi Yes I just checked again and it was a mistake. I shouldn't have changed the spelling.  Gizza  (talk • voy) 13:37, 8 June 2022 (UTC)
 * No problem :-). Thanks for your work here! Kind regards, --Naomi Hennig (talk) 13:57, 8 June 2022 (UTC)

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