User talk:Daanschr/Archive 2006

Stedingers
Oh yeah, I guess that was lost along with all the other stuff, sorry. You can add that back if you want...there should probably be another section in that article for "crusades" like that. The attacks on the Jews are mentioned in the articles about the First Crusade and Second Crusade, and more extensively in the Peoples' Crusade (part of the First Crusade series of articles). Adam Bishop 17:25, 7 January 2006 (UTC)

AID
If you have time, please take a look at my concerns about the Article Improvement Drive nomination of Cold War posted here. Thanks. 172 23:23, 18 January 2006 (UTC)

List of state leaders in 18 BC
Hi Daanschr, List of state leaders in 18 BC is a superset of List of state leaders in 18BC. If you're interested would you look at what needs to be done in the related articles (List of state leaders in 19 BC etc.)? &mdash;Quarl (talk) 2006-01-25 18:03Z 


 * Hi Quarl,


 * I used the format as presented by the WikiProject Leaders by year. All BC years there have a spacebar between the numbers and BC. The article List of state leaders in 18BC was probably aimed at being known as List of state leaders in 18 BC, seeing that it refers to article were the spacebar is at the right place.


 * My sugestion is that both articles are merged by deleting my data and deleting the title with 18BC.--Daanschr 18:30, 25 January 2006 (UTC)


 * Yes, that is the obvious thing to do for that article. Could you also work on all the other years that are missing the data?  For example all the years after 18 BC are missing the info.  &mdash;Quarl (talk) 2006-01-25 18:32Z 


 * I have the impression that only one article is concerned and that is List of state leaders in 18BC. You may change it if you think it is necessary.--Daanschr 20:17, 25 January 2006 (UTC)


 * It is not only one article, why do you think that? List of state leaders in 16 BC, List of state leaders in 15 BC, List of state leaders in 14 BC, etc.  The reason I am contacting you is because these articles have only been edited by you, so I thought perhaps you would be interested in adding the missing information.  &mdash;Quarl (talk) 2006-01-26 08:28Z 


 * You want the info of article 18BC to be on the other articles as well? Problem is that i only inserted info of the place where i live, which belonged to the Roman Empire at that time. I don't know much about other empires.Daanschr 11:06, 26 January 2006 (UTC)

VWN en WCN
Beste allemaal Al enige tijd is er een Nederlandstalig chapter in oprichting, te vinden op http://nl.wikimedia.org. Dit wordt de Vereniging Wikimedia Nederland (VWN). Je kunt je interesse om lid te worden van deze vereniging hier aangeven.

Deze vereniging gaat eind augustus/begin september een Wikimedia Conferentie in Nederland (WCN) houden, volgend op Wikimania in Boston, gedeeltelijk erop inspelend middels een aantal discussiegroepen. Om iets dergelijks te organiseren is imput erg gewenst. Dus als je wilt meehelpen, of als je interesse hebt om bij een dergelijk evenement aanwezig te zijn, geef dat dan aan op nl.wikimedia. Ik hoop daar snel je imput tegemoet te zien! Met vriendelijke groet, effeietsanders 13:40, 25 February 2006 (UTC)

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Largest city in the world?
Hi, thanks for all your interesting contributions to city articles mentioning in what years "it is believed" they were largest in the world. This is indeed interesting, but we usually like to have a source or reference to where you got your information from, and not just "it is believed" (WP:CITE). I'm not going to go around to each one and put up stickers that say [citation needed], but I was wondering if maybe you could just revisit each article yourself, and add in where you found this info, or at least, specify "believed by" whom..?? Many thanks, and keep up the good work! ፈቃደ (ውይይት) 13:26, 27 February 2006 (UTC)


 * Actually, I came here to make the same request. Knowing whose estimate it is, makes the statement informative. --Wetman 20:44, 27 February 2006 (UTC)

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Latin America won!
Joyous | Talk 18:29, 9 April 2006 (UTC)

Small Swords Society of Shanghai
Hi there, I'm not familiar with what region Huiguan is. If you look at my edits, I did not delete your references to Fujian/Guangdong. "Native Place Association" is not proper English - perhaps simply Cantonese association or Hokkienese association? In any case, when I said false information, I meant the line about the French Concession being "in between" the Chinese city and the International Settlement (NB its called the International Settlement not the Foreign Concession). --Sumple (Talk) 01:17, 21 April 2006 (UTC)


 * Hi Daanschr. My apologies: on further reading, I realise I was wrong about the relative positions of the concessions.
 * On a separate note, I'm no expert but "Native Place ASsociation" is really awkward English though - today these organisations are almost always called simply "Xxx ASsociation" where Xxx indicates the place of origin. E.g., the American Fujian Association, the Australian Hebei Association, etc.
 * Also, the standard Chinese name for these organisations should be "同乡会" (tongxiang hui) ("Native Place Association"); "会馆" (huiguan) ("Association House") generally refers to the building/complex in which the association resides.
 * Anyway, apologies again for deleting your edit. --Sumple (Talk) 10:44, 21 April 2006 (UTC)

Apologies
I sincerely apologize. I have a big problem though: I do not want to make this article any bigger than it already is (you'll agree it's huge). I've tended to revert edits that keep adding what I feel are somewhat unnecessary extra information. You say something was factually wrong; if so, change it, but please do not add much more extra material. Thank you, and again, sorry.UberCryxic 18:04, 11 May 2006 (UTC)

Well even the Gauls of Vercingetorix have little to do with France, even though they fought in territory covered by modern France. What do you think of expanding the text to include Cisalpine Gaul?UberCryxic 20:04, 11 May 2006 (UTC)

Hmmm I don't want to get rid of all that, but on the other you are right. Do you think you could rephrase the section while talking about Transalpine Gaul and keeping the same length? I know it'd be difficult, but I'd appreciate it if you could do that. Thanks a lot.UberCryxic 20:22, 11 May 2006 (UTC)

History of History
There has been some discussion at Talk:History of science about whether "history" is one of the sciences studied in the history of science and consequently, whether your essay on the History of History should be moved from History of science to Historiography.

Since you are the author of that piece, would you care to comment on the discussion? --SteveMcCluskey 18:30, 12 May 2006 (UTC)

Hafids/Hafsids
Oh. I haven't seen it was mentioned below. Probably it's some other dynasty. -- Darwinek 18:10, 13 May 2006 (UTC)

Help running cartography department
Apologies for the belated reply and THANK YOU for your response! Passion and time are the main qualifications. Knowledge, not only of Mil. hist. but of the far more bland and arcane subjects of copyright laws and Wikipedia policies therein, is good, but not major requirements. You have my endorsement, I'll pass along word to Chairman Kirill, and if he approves, consider yourself HIRED:> Thanks again and cheers, --R.D.H. (Ghost In The Machine) 02:59, 15 May 2006 (UTC)


 * Congradulations! You have Kirill's seal of approval. Looks like you are in, Welcome aboard captain!--R.D.H. (Ghost In The Machine) 04:22, 15 May 2006 (UTC)


 * Great to hear that you're going to help out! Once you get some free time, feel free to poke around the department; there are some inconclusive discussions on the talk page about creating galleries and organizing the maps that you might be able to come up with solutions for.  If you have any questions, please don't hesitate to ask me directly, or on one of the relevant project talk pages.  I look forward to working with you! Kirill Lokshin 14:52, 15 May 2006 (UTC)

Renaming "History of the world" to "Human History"
Please discuss and vote at Talk:History_of_the_world Thank you, __ Maysara 12:35, 22 May 2006 (UTC)

Cartography department
I don't know how complete (or helpful) they are, but we do have a list of wars and a list of battles that we've been working on. There's also the listing of campaignbox templates, which gives a better by-campaign breakdown, but is even more incomplete.

I would suggest focusing on something other than the Second World War, since that already has a very large number of maps available from US government sources. If you are interested in filling in some of our more noticeable gaps, there are almost no maps for anything in the period from the end of the Punic Wars to the Napoleonic Wars; but feel free to ignore this and work on whatever you prefer.

Finally, please don't feel obligated to do any work on this if you have more important things to be doing. Wikipedia is important, but it shouldn't take priority over everything else ;-) Kirill Lokshin 13:18, 30 May 2006 (UTC)

Western culture
Thanks for taking the initiative of moving those sections back&mdash;you beat me to it. I've been trying to improve some of the references in the article. There is one that stumps me (or should I say: "it is Dutch to me"). It is the external link in the "Differences" section at the end of the article. There is a reference to the Netherlands that I can't make out. Would you be able to find an English account of the phenomenon that is being described? Sunray 19:18, 21 June 2006 (UTC)
 * Great. I think that a citation in English would be useful (it can be a contentious subject, as I think you know). There's no rush. But if you could find something on that topic, it would be great.  I will look as well.  Sunray 18:28, 22 June 2006 (UTC)

Re: Cartography Department
That's fine. I look forward to actually having some decent historical maps to use in articles! :-) Kirill Lokshin 14:27, 25 June 2006 (UTC)

Exporting PNG's from Inkscape
Use "Export bitmap" from the File menu. Imroy 14:42, 26 June 2006 (UTC)

Uploading
You said it didn't work. I asked what it did say. You still didn't tell me. I can't try to figure out what's wrong unless I know what the site says :) --Golbez 16:04, 30 June 2006 (UTC)

Please join!
I'm currently trying to get a Dutch military task force started, would you join us? From what I've seen on the History of the Netherlands article, you could most certainly provide a (more than) worthy contribution.

If you're interested, and I hope you are, please drop a note at this talk page Cheers,  Rex   16:33, 26 July 2006 (UTC)

Page change
Hi! I've just made some pages to a page on Gregorius Nekschot, to formalise the language a little. Could you please have a look at it and make sure I haven't changed the meaning at all? Thanks. Kitty Davis 11:03, 30 July 2006 (UTC)

Thanks for correcting my correction - all fixed now!--Kitty Davis 18:53, 30 July 2006 (UTC)

John Stuart Mill
I have reverted your edits to the article on John Stuart Mill because, in my opinion, they lack verifiability and are not from a neutral point of view. Please provide specific citations for your claims (instead of using weasel words), particularly for the information claimed about his relationship with Harriet Mill. -Merope 18:37, 2 August 2006 (UTC)

In response to your message
 * I'm sure there's an amicable resolution to be had. In looking over the revert I made, I noticed that I did remove the citations.  However, your claims used a number of weasel words (such as, "Many people in Ireland and Scotland") and used a lot of negative phrasing ("punish", "greatly detest").  I've not read the work you reference, but if you can present the author's claims as his (and not as the opinion of many Irish citizens), then perhaps it can work.  The references to Harriet Mill, however, go against everything I've ever read on the two.  (Harriet Mill is a favorite of mine.)  What source do you have for this?


 * In the meantime, perhaps we can leave your edits off? Or bring them to the J.S. Mill talk page?-Merope 20:42, 2 August 2006 (UTC)

Reponse the Second
 * I admitted that it was an oversight to remove the information with citations; an oversight only, not a breach of civility. You may add that back in if you can eliminate the POV-heavy way you presented it.  However, your "facts" about Harriet Mill have not been substantiated--the Mills began a friendship in that year, and did not marry until Harriet's first husband died.  There's no evidence that their relationship was sexual or that H.T. Mill committed adultery.  You'll have to provide some documentation if you want to make such a claim.


 * Again, this should probably be taken to the J.S. Mill talk page. -Merope 21:00, 2 August 2006 (UTC)

Response, re: my conduct
I don't believe that I am "agitating" people: I am upholding the policies of WP and using the WP templates for warning people about their articles. I very, very rarely leave non-templated warnings on people's talk pages. I am not provoking the users--I'm just using the warning templates already in place. If you feel the warnings are too harsh or negative, perhaps you should discuss changing the wording of the existing wording templates with other users. -- Merope 13:42, 5 August 2006 (UTC)

Response the second

I would like to spend my time thus, and someday I will. Right now in my life I'm in the middle of moving house and am incredibly bored in the office, so at present I can't create articles or work very hard to improve existing ones. I can, however, enforce WP rules concerning noteworthy articles. Probably 90% of the articles I nominate for deletion are articles newly created about a garage band, or a high school or college student vanity biography. And, unfortunately, people get upset when they find out that their article isn't encyclopedic. I do try to let people know they can put that kind of information on their user page. I feel that most of the people who create new articles here do not understand Wikipedia's policies, and I do my best to use the templates to explain why I placed tags on their articles. (I use nn-warn so often I should create a keyboard shortcut.) And, of course, there are the people whom I warn against vandalism, and it is mostly those people who attack my page and leave nasty comments. I feel that I've been able to resolve most of my disputes amicably; but, in some cases, the person was so intent on vandalism that an admin stepped in and blocked him/her. But, once I get settled in my new routine (and unpack my books), I plan to refocus my efforts on existing articles, so maybe all this is moot.

I am troubled that you seem to be so upset by my behavior. I feel I've made every attempt to be civil in my interactions: I use standard warnings, I ignore the vandalism and nasty comments directed at me, and I try to explain my reasoning calmly to anyone who questions my behavior. I feel that the majority of my interactions here have been positive. All I can say at this point is that I will consider my actions more carefully, and endeavor to be kinder and more welcoming to new Wikipedians. I hope that is enough. -- Merope 17:28, 5 August 2006 (UTC)

Response the third

We're cool. :) -- Merope 13:55, 6 August 2006 (UTC)

List of countries

 * We can not treat every country the same way, like they were colonies of some kind and became independent. Independence is a new term, so you can't put a date for older countries. Easy things to see are Eastern Europe countries, these are new countries that need to find old roots, but without any direct connection other than sentimental or history. Easily solved. Harder are western Europe countries and East Asian and I don't agree with 20th century for China, 16th century for Spain, 19th century for the UK and the ungrounded 16th century for Portugal. That will be a useless list IMO. --Pedro 11:15, 20 August 2006 (UTC)
 * You're confusing different kinds of countries: Old Word (inc. China/Japan and others) and New Word. A country is more than a state, but I don't know, there are many different countries with different "histories". If the problem is the disputed tag, you can remove it, but I disagree with that list, like I do the nationhood one. --Pedro 22:03, 20 August 2006 (UTC)
 * I'm trying to say that you have a naive view on what is a country.--Pedro 11:03, 21 August 2006 (UTC)
 * see country. :P --Pedro 11:17, 21 August 2006 (UTC)

Debate on literature
Thankyou Daanschr for your invitation. However, I know very little about literature so I don't feel I could contribute. RCSB 17:28, 30 August 2006 (UTC)
 * Again, sorry. I have stopped contributing to the Wikipedia, except on a sporadic basis. RCSB 20:44, 30 August 2006 (UTC)

Independence date of Russia
Thanks for informing me - the Russia 1480 entry has been deleted from the self-determination page. I thought it was for all dates of self-determination, not just the last one. As for the List of countries by date of independence, I was the one who put 1480-Russia in that list =]

Cheers, Yarilo2 02:49, 17 September 2006 (UTC)

Answer
I have answered you on my talk page. (you may delete this message when you read it) :) Inge 12:00, 13 October 2006 (UTC)

first organise into correct namespace
I have moved WikiProject:Organized debate to WikiProject organized debate. -- RHaworth 10:31, 18 October 2006 (UTC)

Historical atlas
This is excellent work! Please let your programmer know that I'm interested in a sort of timeline feature which would color the same areas the same color over a span of time-- this would allow for making animated GIFs of the rise and fall of the Roman empire, for example. Also, where is the source code? Ashi b aka tock 14:42, 20 October 2006 (UTC)


 * I have little knowledge of the technical possibilities. I will primarily work on making the maps, the factual acuracy and the use of reliable sources. I will put this discussion on Wikipedia talk:WikiProject historical atlas, so we can continue it there.--Daanschr 08:56, 21 October 2006 (UTC)

Gaius Claudius Marcellus Minor
Hello.

I appreciate your effort, but it is clear that the "technology" for making atlas is not mature yet, as it takes a user to change the dimension of the image, or to have amonitor with a different resolution to break everything.

I suggest you to find other people interested in the matter, let the technology grow mature, and later put these atlas into the mainstream Wikipedia.

Best regards, --BlaiseMuhaddib 10:58, 23 October 2006 (UTC)

Night of the Living Dead
Thanks. Actually, I intended to revert it too, but... (I do not 100% understand what happend). --Beaumont (@)  13:48, 31 October 2006 (UTC)

Do you want it deleted?
Up to you as you are pretty much the only contributor. I've removed that warning, but please remember the following:


 * No thats fine, I thought I'd ask as some editors prefer to wait until they can write it all at once. It wasnt a bot it was me so we can do whatever you like :) Hey, keep up the great work mate  Glen  11:27, 10 November 2006 (UTC)

Edit summaries
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Speeches of Weber
I've added the "prod" template to the article Speeches of Weber, suggesting that it be deleted according to the proposed deletion process. All contributions are appreciated, but I don't believe it satisfies Wikipedia's criteria for inclusion, and I've explained why in the deletion notice (see also What Wikipedia is not and Notability). Please either work to improve the article if the topic is worthy of inclusion in Wikipedia, or, if you disagree, discuss the issues raised at Talk:Speeches of Weber. If you remove the dated prod template, the article will not be deleted, but note that it may still be sent to Articles for deletion, where it may be deleted if consensus to delete is reached. --Benn Newman 04:03, 14 November 2006 (UTC)


 * It may be deleted if you want to.--Daanschr 11:16, 14 November 2006 (UTC)

Friedrich Nietzsche debate
Hi Daanschr, Thanks for the invite to this debate I'd be glad to join in. I've thought about learning German so that I could read Nietzsche in the original so I suppose it's time I made a start Mystictim 14:17, 30 November 2006 (UTC)

Historical atlas
ok no problem. I will move it to a separate subpage --Astrokey 44 08:02, 9 December 2006 (UTC)

Dank je
Dank je voor de verplaatsing. Electionworld Talk?  20:31, 11 December 2006 (UTC)