User talk:Daaviiid/Archive 2

Moving Katherine of Bosnia, Countess of Cilli
I was wondering if it would be better to move this to Katherine of Bosnia (1332-1385) or Katherine of Bosnia (d. 1385) because Countess of Cilli was her consort title not one that she held in her own right. If Katherine was the sister of Hungarian queen Elizabeth, she would be born in circa 1332 or 1334 and died 21 March 1385 according to this. I don't know if you know this or not but I notice you didn't put in date of birth or death. --Queen Elizabeth II&#39;s Little Spy (talk) 11:17, 9 August 2009 (UTC)
 * Wait why didn't you just make it on Katherine of Bosnia?


 * Consort titles are sometimes used for disambiguation (e.g. Mary Tudor, Queen of France, and other queens of France). Katherine of Bosnia, Countess of Cilli is certainly better than Katherine of Bosnia (1332-1385), because the dates of her birth and death are uncertain - uncertain being an understatement, because none of the tertiary sources you use cite secondary sources. 21 March 1385 is the date of her husband's death, not her death. Surtsicna (talk) 15:58, 9 August 2009 (UTC)

Unfortunatly, David, I haven't came across an image of the seal. I've searched long for it when I was creating Bosnian Wikipedia's article about Catherine. Regarding dispensations, they were needed for marrying in-laws as well; Henry VIII of England, for example, wasn't allowed to marry his sister-in-law until dispensation was granted and his marriage was a big problem even after though dispensation was granted. Oh, if you want to be even more confused by Catherine, read this: I've found a 19th-century book (whose author is a respected Croatian historian) about Catherine which states that she is daughter of Ban and King Tvrtko I of Bosnia (whom other sources identify as her brother or cousin)! However, we can easily dismiss that book; other historians and most people with common sense argue that, since he was 23 years old when Catherine got married and 24 when she gave birth to her first child, Tvrtko simply didn't have time to conceive Catherine. Yet it is amusing how mysterious this woman is! Surtsicna (talk) 16:45, 9 August 2009 (UTC)

I found the image of Elizabeth and Mary on the Internet. It's a 19th-century depiction of the two queens in captivity. I wasn't really working on Casimir III's wives; I've just divided a section in sub-secions and created a redirect for his last wife because I hated the red link on Elizabeth of Bosnia article :) I know nothing about Casimir's wives, but I suppose we could find out something about Hedwig. I've started gathering information about Elizabeth of Serbia here. I would help you create a page about Catherine of Hungary, Queen of Serbia. Serbian Wikipedia could have some information and I speak Serbian at near-native level :D Surtsicna (talk) 11:18, 15 August 2009 (UTC)

Oh, by the way, I think you'll be interested in two women who were regarded as heiresses presumptive to the throne of Hungary - Elizabeth, Princess of Taranto and Achaea, and her cousin Catherine. The former was niece of Elizabeth of Bosnia, while the latter was Elizabeth of Bosnia's eldest daughter. Surtsicna (talk) 13:22, 15 August 2009 (UTC)

Elizabeths
I haven't realized how important Elizabeth of Bosnia is for the history of Hungary until I started reading about her. She was far from kind fairy-tale princesses; she was a mother who fought for her daughters' rights and a "forceful but ruthless politician". I've found books that appear to contain lots of information about Elizabeth of Serbia's political activities during the reign of her son, but I don't have full access to those books. It's a shame because she appears to have influenced her son significantly and was politically active herself. Surtsicna (talk) 19:08, 18 August 2009 (UTC)
 * Catherine probably wasn't alive at that point, as many Serbian queens exercised more power as dowagers than they did as consorts; they were involved in charities and many joined monasteries which made them popular among the people. Elizabeth of Kuyavia's mother is unknown; Elizabeth's brother was Władysław the White. All the sources I've encountered using Google Book Search mention that "Elizabeth bore three daughters in a row: Catherine, Mary, and Hedwig". They do not mention the Mary which Medieval Lands mention. As Medieval Lands doesn't cite any source which proves her existance, we should probably avoid mentioning her. Surtsicna (talk) 19:32, 18 August 2009 (UTC)
 * Don't trust those websites, especially when they cite no sources whatsoever. How could Elizabeth of Bosnia be a possible great-grandmother of anyone when her only grandchild died less than a month after she was born? Surtsicna (talk) 14:11, 20 August 2009 (UTC)

Jadwiga of Żagań
Hi Daaviiid. I recently read your article and it's great. I work now in the expansion of Mieszko I of Poland, watch it and tell me your opinion. Thanks Aldebaran69 (talk) 04:34, 19 August 2009 (UTC)
 * Good job; please don't hesistate to nominate such articles at T:TDYK, as I did here for you: Template_talk:Did_you_know. --Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus 19:07, 19 August 2009 (UTC)
 * Usually an article is featured in the DYK section for several hours, you can verify that by seeing what links to the article that was DYKed - if it is linked from one of the DYK archive pages, it was DYKed. --Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus 19:15, 19 August 2009 (UTC)

Maria of Bohemia
Don't know if your busy or not but if your interested you might take a gander at this article I created. I'm really bad at creating biographies as you can see. It seems your good at Eastern European royalties.--Queen Elizabeth II&#39;s Little Spy (talk) 03:53, 21 August 2009 (UTC)


 * Take a look at my new article. Do you know anything about the House of Luxembourg?  Do you think I should call them House of Luxembourg-Namur House of Luxembourg-Limburg like that?  Technically none of them were really agnatically part of the House of Luxembourg.  Luxembourg-Ardennes was the call the elder house and the original House of Luxembourg.  The other two branches were female lines.  --Queen Elizabeth II&#39;s Little Spy (talk) 10:55, 21 August 2009 (UTC)


 * Yeah I found it on the Wikipedia Commons. The other more common picture Margaret of Brabant was cropped a little too wide so I decided to use another one.  --Queen Elizabeth II&#39;s Little Spy (talk) 12:20, 21 August 2009 (UTC)

Favour
Which articles do you need? I can help you with Bosnian, Croatian, and Serbian. Surtsicna (talk) 19:34, 23 August 2009 (UTC)

DYK for Jadwiga of Żagań
Excellent article on Queen Jadwiga, David. I'm back from my holiday at the beach, so can devote more time to Wikipedia now.--Jeanne Boleyn (talk) 07:29, 24 August 2009 (UTC)
 * The bot screwed up; your hook will actually appear in about 5 hours. — Ed   (Talk  •  Contribs)  04:34, 25 August 2009 (UTC)

Elizabeth of Kuyavia
I've removed some information which did not concern Elizabeth of Kuyavia. The article is pretty good! If you come across any information using Google Book Search, add it as a reference! You could start with searching for information which are already in the article and then cite books which give that mention. Also, if (eg) Medieval Lands cite a source for a certain information, you should cite that source rather than Medieval Lands because Medieval Lands is a tertiary and unreliable source. Surtsicna (talk) 11:56, 26 August 2009 (UTC)

Casimir of Kuyavia
Hi Daaviiid. I just little busy fixed the article of Mieszko I, but I promise to began to create and improved the article of Casimir of Kuyavia in the next day. Please aske me any doubt you have. Thanks and sorry for my bad english!! Aldebaran69 (talk) 04:17, 27 August 2009 (UTC)

Camilla Martelli
I think she wasn't count as Grand Duchess was because she was a morganatic spouse. PS. Do you know anything about Georgian consorts?--Queen Elizabeth II&#39;s Little Spy (talk) 20:13, 27 August 2009 (UTC)

Another great article, David!
Your latest article is excellent, David, and well researched. Congratulations. Does Euphrosyne have many descendants alive today?--Jeanne Boleyn (talk) 07:37, 29 August 2009 (UTC)

Their father was also Duke of Kalisz and the sisters are known as "XX of Kalisz" (try Google Book Search). I was following the line of descent from Euphrosyne of Opole and I was amazed how many lines died out. I could be wrong, but it seems to me that the only descendants of Euphrosyne are the descendants of her granddaughter Kunigunde of Poland. Surtsicna (talk) 15:42, 30 August 2009 (UTC)

I think Jadwiga of Kalisz should be moved to Hedwig of Kalisz because no reliable source refers to her as Jadwiga of Kalisz (or Jadwiga of Greater of Poland), while at least one reliable source refers to her as Hedwig of Kalisz and that's Encyclopedia of the Middle Ages. Surtsicna (talk) 17:47, 31 August 2009 (UTC)

It doesn't matter how she is known in Polish, as this is Wikipedia in English. Unfortunatly, Medieval Lands is a tertiary source and as such it is unreliable (however, information sourced by secondary sources in English are reliable). For example, Medieval Lands refers to Isabella I of Castile as Isabel, although English-language sources clearly use the name Isabella more often. Surtsicna (talk) 18:05, 31 August 2009 (UTC)

Elizabeth of Bosnia's daughter seems to be known as Jadwiga in English, while her ancestress is known as Hedwig; usage is important. I would, for example, refer to Hedwig of Kalisz as Jadwiga in the article about Jadwiga of Poland so that readers know that they were namesakes - I would also refer to Jadwiga of Poland as Hedwig in the article about Hedwig of Kalisz. What do you think? Surtsicna (talk) 18:16, 31 August 2009 (UTC)

So, can I move the article back? Surtsicna (talk) 18:41, 31 August 2009 (UTC)

I am working on moving Bona's stepdaughter to the proper title - Hedwig Jagiellon (1513–1573). See Talk:Jadwiga Jagiellon (1513–1573) and User:Surtsicna/Hedwig Jagiellon (1513–1573). Surtsicna (talk) 19:31, 31 August 2009 (UTC)

Hello David and thanks for your reply.I have been doing well what about you buddy.--HENRY V OF ENGLAND (talk) 22:10, 5 September 2009 (UTC)
 * David, have you ever checked out Miroslav Marek's site? He has a lot of info on Bohemian royalty. Just do a Google search with the name Miroslav Marek and his site will come up.--Jeanne Boleyn (talk) 11:20, 6 September 2009 (UTC)


 * Miroslac Marek claims that Tvrtko II of Bosnia was married to a niece of Sigismund, Holy Roman Emperor. I've already found a reliable source which claims that the Republic of Dubrovnik wrote letters to the queen of Bosnia, wife of King Tvrtko II, in 1404. The source mentions her parent's name, but I can't see the name unless I buy the book or guess the name on my own. So, I need your help, David. Which of Sigismund's siblings and half-siblings had marriageable daughters in 1404?


 * Unfortunatly, Miroslav Marek's site cannot be used a source for Wiki articles, as it is not a reliable source. Besides, I've found numerous factual mistakes; for example, no historian disputes that Dorothy Garai was Queen of Bosnia as the second wife (1428-1438) of Tvrtko II. Surtsicna (talk) 13:32, 6 September 2009 (UTC)

Little Boots
Added! -- Jack1755 (talk) 18:50, 6 September 2009 (UTC)
 * Happy Birthday, David!!!!!--Jeanne Boleyn (talk) 09:10, 11 September 2009 (UTC)

Happy Birthday
Better a belated birthday wish than nothing! hehe - Sorry, I wasn't in Cork on Friday - something crazy happened. Hope you had a nice day! -- Jack1755 (talk) 20:28, 12 September 2009 (UTC)

Happy belated birthday! When was it? Surtsicna (talk) 21:27, 12 September 2009 (UTC)

Happy anniversay of your day of birth. Here's a Groucho classic line: "Hello room service? send me up a larger room". GoodDay (talk) 22:17, 12 September 2009 (UTC)

Well, it will be easy to remember your birthday. Regarding my kitty, she is a hunter too. We always find pigeon feathers and at least one dead mouse or rat (or whatever is left from them) every week. I feel sorry for the pigeons, but they poop in my yard too much :D Surtsicna (talk) 10:34, 13 September 2009 (UTC)
 * I have a pet pigeon. My cat Tony would love to get his claws (and teeth) into that bird. Luckily the pigeon always manages to escapes from Tony's tigerish leaps.--Jeanne Boleyn (talk) 08:19, 14 September 2009 (UTC)

Elizabeth of Serbia
This is what I managed to find about her. Few secondary sources mention her and some of those mention that she was regent, although briefly. She was surely very powerful and significant, but we need more information. Try using Google Book Search; perhaps you'll have more luck when searching about her than I did. Surtsicna (talk) 17:59, 17 September 2009 (UTC)
 * Yes, but I still have no access to it. I've found another book that mentions the name of the father of her grandson's first wife, but the line is broken just when it says "daughter of..." Being so near vital information, but unable to see it, is very frustrating. Surtsicna (talk) 18:19, 17 September 2009 (UTC)
 * There are ways to access the book: I could buy it or I could wait several decades for the book to fall into public domain. I'm sure you'll agree that buying a book just to read one word of it doesn't make sense. Surtsicna (talk) 18:28, 17 September 2009 (UTC)
 * Precisely what you said: they were actually locked-up baby-bearing machines. Why don't you expand some of the existing articles about more significant women? I'm sure there are Holy Roman Empresses and German queens who do not have their article and there are even more of them whose articles are disgracefully short. I'm currently expanding the article about the Habsburg heiress Maria Theresa of Austria, Holy Roman Empress & German Queen, sovereign of Hungary and Bohemia. Surtsicna (talk) 18:52, 17 September 2009 (UTC)

Hey
Hello David, how are you? Did you have a good week? -- Jack1755 (talk) 21:46, 19 September 2009 (UTC)
 * Really? :O - Anything crazy going on in your life? Jack1755 (talk) 18:57, 20 September 2009 (UTC)
 * XD - makes me glad I attend an all boys school! My parents are away... and I have ran out of money :p -- Jack1755 (talk) 15:55, 21 September 2009 (UTC)
 * You don't know any better; a little feminine influence certainly wouldn't hurt though! There is a girl's school, Scoil Mhuire, around the corner. You got lots of homework? -- Jack1755 (talk) 16:06, 21 September 2009 (UTC)

Isabella of Jerusalem
David, why did you remove the image? I admit it wasn't a very good one, but it's better than nothing. Commons has no others alas.--Jeanne Boleyn (talk) 15:27, 24 September 2009 (UTC)

Genealogy
David, an editor is going around removing all the genealogical info on our articles. I'm going mad trying to get him to stop.--Jeanne Boleyn (talk) 14:51, 25 September 2009 (UTC)

Excellent new article
Your latest article is excellent. Is there an image available of her which can be used here?--Jeanne Boleyn (talk) 09:59, 26 September 2009 (UTC)

Sophia of Poland
Thanks for the article, you may want to consider nominating such articles at T:TDYK for frontpage exposure! --Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus 23:44, 4 October 2009 (UTC)
 * Nominator can do so; instructions are on the T:TDYK page (it is very easy - go to appopriate date, edit, use the indicated template, fill in the blanks). --Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus 16:27, 5 October 2009 (UTC)

Nicole Scherzinger image
Sorry about that: it looked me like another random changing of the image, which has been done quite a lot recently. I suggest that in future, when changing an image, give a explanation to changing the image, and perhaps consider moving the previous one further down the article so it can still be utilized. I'm sorry for anything on my part that bothered you. Best. Acalamari 18:54, 5 October 2009 (UTC)
 * They look fine, though you should change "Nicole" in both captions to "Scherzinger" to keep how she's referred to consistent with the rest of the article (remember that we refer to people by their last names, as using their first names imply that we know them on a first-name basis). With the Dolls third album, I've heard rumors, but they're not anything I would want to add to the article, and nothing appears to be confirmed at the moment. Best. Acalamari 19:16, 5 October 2009 (UTC)

The WPVG Newsletter (Q3 2009)

 * Newsletter delivery by xenobot  04:11, 7 October 2009 (UTC)

Ziemomysl of Kuyavia
Hi Daaviiid. I saw your article and is great. I had any idea about the attemps of Duchess Euphrosyne of poisoned him and his brother Leszek. Thanks for write to me. Aldebaran69 (talk) 19:51, 10 October 2009 (UTC)

Sandbox
David, I gave you advice in your sandbox. The article needs to be cut down, as much of it doesn't make sense. As I said, just summarise the crime and the inderdict. I would just stick to the basic facts about her life. Cheers. By the way, keep up the good work!--Jeanne Boleyn (talk) 06:05, 14 October 2009 (UTC)

Are you in mood for some heiresses?
There are some articles about medieval French heiresses that should be created. I've ust created the article about Adelaide, Countess of Vermandois. You could create the article about other suo iure countesses of Vermandois, such as Elisabeth, Countess of Vermandois, and Eleanor, Countess of Vermandois. Surtsicna (talk) 21:37, 16 October 2009 (UTC)

Jade Ewen
Have you heard About a Girl yet? I like it! I miss Keisha, but I've always had a soft-spot for little Miss Eurovision! -- Jack1755 (talk) 23:14, 18 October 2009 (UTC)
 * I love Bad Boys too. No, I seem to be the only person in the world that doesn't! I don't like Cheryl's new song. -- Jack1755 (talk) 18:29, 19 October 2009 (UTC)

WP:Royalty
Am I? -- lol -- I don't recall signing up. Anyway...you add your name to the list of participants. It is usually located on a project's main page. -- Jack1755 (talk) 19:08, 24 October 2009 (UTC)
 * Yeah, she is. Dyk that both her parents are blind? How's wikipedia going for you, David? -- Jack1755 (talk) 19:12, 25 October 2009 (UTC)
 * Yes, it is! Half-Term; I'm so excited! You have anything special planned? -- Jack1755 (talk) 19:17, 25 October 2009 (UTC)
 * ...As is my Mother's birthday! Yes, I like her. Oh no, really? What kind of projects? -- Jack1755 (talk) 19:22, 25 October 2009 (UTC)
 * Lol -- nope, I don't like it. -- Jack1755 (talk) 19:31, 25 October 2009 (UTC)
 * X Factor -- I love geography -- lol. -- Jack1755 (talk) 19:40, 25 October 2009 (UTC)
 * Thank you! If only I could read Italian... I nominated it for a GA assessment, but I'm still waiting. -- Jack1755 (talk) 19:45, 25 October 2009 (UTC)
 * Yes, sometimes. I find the translations can be quite poor. There isn't much about her on the other language wikipedias -- as a matter of fact, the Italian one is based on my version. There are quite a few books about her in Italian, alas... -- Jack1755 (talk) 19:54, 25 October 2009 (UTC)
 * Lol -- The contempt is visibly oozing from my monitor! -- Jack1755 (talk) 16:39, 26 October 2009 (UTC)

Hi David
Hi David, I have just created a new article which I know you'll like: Agnes de Launcekrona. What do you think?--Jeanne Boleyn (talk) 10:03, 6 November 2009 (UTC)

A Nightmare for David

 * The Pussycat Dolls never got together
 * The UK became a republic
 * The only music that ever featured in the UK chart was bad rap music
 * We were even more involved with the EU (oh wait that one's come true)
 * The Tudors never existed
 * Waking up and remembering that I need to get up and go to school
 * Not such thing as pasta (my favourite food)
 * IP Users doing whatever they want
 * The House of Piast and the Přemyslid dynasty never existed, I'd lose half of my articles--David (talk) 17:12, 7 November 2009 (UTC)


 * I hate pastsa. lol. I can relate to republicanism and Europe, though. -- Jack1755 (talk) 18:27, 7 November 2009 (UTC)
 * I am not familiar with The Pussycat Dolls. Which are their most popular songs; then perhaps I might be able to place them? My daughter Tatiana is a huge fan of Lady Gaga (whom I also like), but she's never mentioned the Pussycat Dolls.--Jeanne Boleyn (talk) 10:15, 8 November 2009 (UTC)

Duchess Swinisława of Pomerania
Hi David. Thanks for your support and your good words. About the wife of Duke Mestwin I, in almost all the sources I consulted she never appears; according to sources, she probably belonged to a Gdansk or Russian noble family, of course, this wasn't discarted his parentage with the Piast dynasty, but is better to maintain Swinisława's parentage as unknown. If you can correct the article is great. Thanks again for your support and sorry for my bad english!!! Aldebaran69 (talk) 18:58, 7 November 2009 (UTC)


 * Well, I continue to work with the High Dukes of Poland and his consorts (at least one more generation) and later began to complete and create articles about Mieszko III's descendants (I create articles since eldest to youngest descendants of Boleslaw III). Aldebaran69 (talk) 19:05, 7 November 2009 (UTC)


 * Of course, that is the purprose of my work, but I've decided to made the correction in chronological order, from oldest to youngest descendants. Aldebaran69 (talk) 19:12, 7 November 2009 (UTC)


 * Sure! all help is very welcome for me. Thanks!!! Aldebaran69 (talk) 19:29, 7 November 2009 (UTC)


 * Great!! thanks a lot!!!! Aldebaran69 (talk) 19:35, 7 November 2009 (UTC)

Maria of Bosnia
Are you in a mood for another medieval lady whose parentage is a mystery? I was searching for information about Maria of Bosnia, Countess of Helfenstein. She seems to have been important, as many German language sources mention her (see these books, these books, these books and these books). Our article about the House of Helfenstein mentions her and so does German Wiki's article about the House of Helfenstein. She was married to Ulrich X, Count of Helfenstein. Her father was a son of Stephen I, Ban of Bosnia, but who was he? Stephen I had three sons: Stephen II, Vladislav and Ninoslav. Was Maria a sister of Queen Elizabeth of Hungary or a sister of Countess Catherine of Cilli or a sister of King Tvrtko I of Bosnia or a sister of King Stephen Dabiša of Bosnia? She was (half)sister of some of these people and first cousin of the others. Medieval Lands claims that she was a daughter of Ninoslav (who might have been the father of Dabiša). German Wiki's article claims that she was a sister of Tvrtko I (thus daughter of Vladislav). 19th-century German books claim that she was a sister of the wife of King Louis I of Hungary (thus daughter of Stephen II and sister of Catherine). Do you know someone who speaks German? It would be nice if we knew what those books are saying. Surtsicna (talk) 16:12, 8 November 2009 (UTC)


 * Hi David, sorry if I can't help you but my knowledge of German is little. Good look in your investigation!!!. Aldebaran69 (talk) 19:07, 8 November 2009 (UTC)

Anastasia of Greater Poland
Hi David, I just finished the article about Anastasia, Duchess of Pomerania. I hope you like the work. Also, I just fixed a little the article about Elisabeth, Duchess of Bohemia (her older half-sister). Write to me and tell me what do you think about the changes. Aldebaran69 (talk) 21:18, 10 November 2009 (UTC)

Image of Yolande is lovely
David, the image you uploaded to Yolande de Dreux's article looks great. Where/how did you find it?!!!!--Jeanne Boleyn (talk) 16:09, 13 November 2009 (UTC)

Question for you
At Talk:Elisabeth of Greater Poland (1152–1209). See also Template_talk:Did_you_know. --Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus 02:32, 16 November 2009 (UTC)

Edit summaries
Thank you for your contributions to Wikipedia. When you make a change to an article, please provide an edit summary. (Lil-unique1 (talk) 03:31, 21 November 2009 (UTC))

PCD
x_x -- Jack1755 (talk) 20:27, 26 November 2009 (UTC)


 * I'm not sure, to be honest. Take a look at this article. I'd advise not changing the article to say that they've split until we have better news about it. Acalamari 22:30, 26 November 2009 (UTC)

Władysław Odonic
Hi David, I just finished the translation of Duke Władysław Odonic from Polish to English. Please check it out and let me know your opinion. Thanks!! Aldebaran69 (talk) 23:59, 24 November 2009 (UTC)

Tudor ladies
I have been creating articles on Tudor women lately. That's my favourite period in history-Tudor England.--Jeanne Boleyn (talk) 21:23, 26 November 2009 (UTC)

Konrad II of Masovia
Konrad II of Masovia has been changed to Mid on the importance scale. If you disagree then undo but please debate on the Talk:Konrad_II_of_Masovia, Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_Poland, my talk page User_talk:Jniech or here. Jniech (talk) 21:53, 22 December 2009 (UTC)