User talk:Dabomb87/Archive 23

City of Austin
Be aware that the Austin page is significantly out of date in referring to such things as the "Austin-Round Rock-San Marcos area" which is in fact now the "Austin-Round Rock" MSA according to the Census Bureau. Round Rock surpassed San Marcos in the early 2000's in population and MSA's are named only for the top two cities. See ["Austin-Round Rock, Tx Metropolitan Statistical Area."] Much of what I am editing is to bring this kind of thing up to date. Dell for example is in the Austin-Round Rock, Tx MSA and not "in nearby Round Rock." Appreciate you not reverting such edits without discussion. Regards,  Dmartinaus •  Talk  04:20, 3 July 2010 (UTC)

Historic Trails Award
New article and DYK if you care to help improve. I wanted to get it up on July 4th!  — Rlevse • Talk  • 21:38, 4 July 2010 (UTC)
 * Thanks. does it need a dash-bot? — Rlevse • Talk  • 23:09, 4 July 2010 (UTC)
 * I ran the script, but nothing came up. Dabomb87 (talk) 23:12, 4 July 2010 (UTC)

Thank you for your edit
Hello, Dabomb87. Thank you very, very much for your good faith edit of The Basement Tapes. We really appreciate people trying to improve the article. Until recently I was also convinced that website names were supposed to be "publisher," not "work." But then someone recently pointed out to me the following from Template:Cite web:
 * Work: If this item is part of a larger "work", such as a book, periodical or website, write the name of that work. Do not italicize; the software will do so automatically.
 * Publisher: Publisher, if any—for example if the website is hosted by a government service, educational institution, or company. (The publisher is not usually the name of the website, that is usually the work).

This came as a shock to me as it seemed to go against common sense, but as it is written in the Wikipedia style guide, recently I have been using this parameter. I am going to undo your changes, but if you still think you are right please let me know—I'd be very happy to be convinced. Thank you again very much! Sincerely, Moisejp (talk) 22:37, 4 July 2010 (UTC)
 * No problem; I've always kind of ignored that advice but it's not a big deal either way. It's been discussed before, but I haven't the will to dig up the thread in my archives. Dabomb87 (talk) 23:09, 4 July 2010 (UTC)

Admins and features
Glad you're going through it. I'd got rid of that sentence already, but lost the window on my screen; then forgot about it. The page is kind of long, but ... Tony  (talk)  16:21, 5 July 2010 (UTC)
 * No problem. I like what you're doing with that page; it's more interesting to read. Dabomb87 (talk) 16:22, 5 July 2010 (UTC)

Re: Taylor Swift discography
Done and supported. There are a lot of lists at FLC suddenly, I can barely keep up reviewing them. Wizardman Operation Big Bear 19:36, 5 July 2010 (UTC)
 * I know the feeling.... But any review is a help, so please, don't overdo it, just contribute where and when you can, everything you add to FLC is much appreciated (and I'm sure Dabomb87 will back me up on that...!) The Rambling Man (talk) 19:41, 5 July 2010 (UTC)
 * Absolutely. Dabomb87 (talk) 19:42, 5 July 2010 (UTC)

Catherine Pollard (Scouting)
New article and DYK if you care to help improve. Up on July 6th, anniversary of the court ruling!  — Rlevse • Talk  • 00:49, 6 July 2010 (UTC)
 * I don't see why the hatnote isn't needed. You left it on the other Pollard article. Great tweaks by you though.  — Rlevse • Talk  • 00:57, 6 July 2010 (UTC)
 * The only way you can arrive at the article through the search function is by typing "Catherine Pollard (Scouting)" into the search box. If somebody does that, then they would obviously want to read about Scoutmaster, and would have no reason to want to go to the other Catherine Pollard article. On the other hand, someone may type "Catherine Pollard" into the search box, there is no way of determining whether they want to read about the politician or the Scoutmaster; therefore the hatnote is necessary in that article. Dabomb87 (talk) 01:19, 6 July 2010 (UTC)
 * Hmm. Ok. — Rlevse • Talk  • 01:27, 6 July 2010 (UTC)
 * I put in a quote with ref, can you check that out and other recent changes? Tks. <span style="font-family:Verdana,sans-serif"> — <b style="color:#060;">Rlevse</b> • Talk  • 02:08, 6 July 2010 (UTC)
 * Looks good; interesting lady. Dabomb87 (talk) 03:38, 6 July 2010 (UTC)

Masako Katsura
Hey. Thanks for the edits. I'm going to add the format=pdf to the other ones too. And I also see at the documentation for reflist that it says 3 columns should be avoided (I guess until all browsers can render properly). I was wondering, is there anywhere that says we should prefer the frac template? I personally think the direct fraction looks much better, and I thought that template was so that we could render fractions that can't be rendered directly, e.g., $4 3/64$. MOSNUM is silent, just saying the template is available.--Fuhghettaboutit (talk) 01:29, 7 July 2010 (UTC)
 * The problem with the unicode fractions (½) is that they are nearly impossible to read in edit mode (even for me, and I have nearly perfect vision), and create accessibility problems for those with screen readers. Though MOSNUM specifically address the fractions, it gives similar advice for the unicode subscripts: "Avoid using Unicode superscripts and subscripts (such as ² and ₃). They are harder to read on small displays, and are not aligned with superscript or subscript characters (e.g., x1x²x₃x4 vs. x1x2x3x4). Instead, use the undefined and undefined  tags." Dabomb87 (talk) 04:16, 7 July 2010 (UTC)
 * Though I can read them fine in edit mode (maybe you have your text size set smaller than I do) I don't think whether they can be seen in edit mode is a consideration that weighs equally with appearance to readers, but I certainly see the validity of accessibility problems.--Fuhghettaboutit (talk) 12:11, 7 July 2010 (UTC)

Wikilinking in Confirmation bias
Hi, please see the discussion at Talk:Confirmation_bias Thanks, MartinPoulter (talk) 12:07, 7 July 2010 (UTC)

Round Rock Addition?
Dabomb87: You might take a look at this language for the Round Rock, Texas article. I have a CIO so do not want to add it myself, but I know you do Central Texas edits. I authored a previous long article on the project which was Speedy Deleted due to my CIO, but this is just a small snippet. See: User talk:Dmartinaus Subsection "Need someone to review and "possibly" add to Round Rock, Texas page." where I have the language, refs, and an explanation re the CIO <small style="white-space:nowrap;border:1px solid #008080;padding:1px;"> Dmartinaus  •  Talk  23:49, 5 July 2010 (UTC)
 * The paragraph looked good to me, so I pasted it into the Round Rock article. Thanks, Dabomb87 (talk) 00:53, 6 July 2010 (UTC)
 * A small-minded troll User:Nineteen Nightmares deleted it.  I re-added portions with no project name because of his objection to my CIO.  <small style="white-space:nowrap;border:1px solid #008080;padding:1px;"> Dmartinaus  •  Talk  17:49, 7 July 2010 (UTC)

UEFA Champions League
If you go to the page above, you will see a FL star. I have tried removing it but I can't. I thought something was wrong with my laptop so I used my other computer; it is still there. Jamen Somasu (talk) 18:08, 7 July 2010 (UTC)
 * Purge your cache; it will disappear. Also, if an article or list is really featured, there will be a notice on the talk page that says so. Dabomb87 (talk) 18:09, 7 July 2010 (UTC)
 * I looked for that, too. That is why I notified you guys to see if maybe there is some error. Jamen Somasu (talk) 18:11, 7 July 2010 (UTC)
 * Nope, just an old cached copy of the page. Dabomb87 (talk) 18:12, 7 July 2010 (UTC)
 * Well, since I have your attention for a minute, could you look into this list? It has been around as a FLC for more than two months. Everything The Rambling Man has asked, I have done and more (the first archieve was closed for unrelated events to the article). Could you look into this and promote it or demote it so I can move on and recommend another list I have been working on? Thanks! Jamen Somasu (talk) 18:18, 7 July 2010 (UTC)
 * I'm not sure what you mean; that FLC has been open for 9 days; all FLCs are kept open for at least 10 days, and most are not closed until nearly three weeks have passed. Dabomb87 (talk) 18:20, 7 July 2010 (UTC)
 * I know and, trust me, I am not trying to use you to go against The Rambling Man since he basically helped me make that list top-notch (a lot better then some of the present FL now). The 1st archieve was closed because I was banned for a short while and since I was gone, the nomination was closed (the closing of the 1st nomination had nothing to do with the list itself). Everything he asked on that first nomination was solved. And this time, I had very little to do since I just carried on from where I left off the fist time.


 * I am asking you to take special consideration just for this case seeing the circumstances. This has been effectively open for two months. Jamen Somasu (talk) 18:29, 7 July 2010 (UTC)


 * What do you mean by "special consideration"? The nominations are independent of each other. Besides, you haven't addressed all of the comments in the current nomination. Dabomb87 (talk) 18:45, 7 July 2010 (UTC)

Wikipedia:Featured list candidates/2006 boys high school basketball All-Americans/archive1
Why isn't Featured list candidates/2006 boys high school basketball All-Americans/archive1 showing in my watchlist?--TonyTheTiger (T/C/BIO/WP:CHICAGO/WP:FOUR) 22:34, 7 July 2010 (UTC)
 * I don't know. Dabomb87 (talk) 23:20, 7 July 2010 (UTC)

List of Kraft Nabisco Championship champions
Hello Dabomb87, I just want to thank you for helping me make it better and for your timely edits to the list. I will take what you did and extrapolate that over to the other four articles that I will be taking to FL status right after this one, but one at a time like policy dictates. Also, I could not believe this was not done before with the men's major championship articles, which was rather sad till I got on top of it! Thanks. BLUE <sub style="color:#FF0000;">DOG TN 22:01, 8 July 2010 (UTC)

Nightwish discography
Hi, can you vote here please? Thank you. DreamNight (talk) 13:32, 9 July 2010 (UTC)
 * Hi, I probably won't get around to reviewing the list, sorry. Please note that FLC is not a vote. Dabomb87 (talk) 14:50, 9 July 2010 (UTC)
 * Ok, thanks. —Preceding unsigned comment added by DreamNight (talk • contribs) 16:53, 9 July 2010 (UTC)

Edward L. Rowan
New article on a Scouter, psychiatrist, and author. Very interesting. Pls help improve. Up for DYK too. Will definitely need dash fixes. ;-) <span style="font-family:Verdana,sans-serif"> — <b style="color:#060;">Rlevse</b> • Talk  • 15:47, 11 July 2010 (UTC)
 * Looks good from my end. Dabomb87 (talk) 16:01, 11 July 2010 (UTC)
 * Very nice improvements! <span style="font-family:Verdana,sans-serif"> — <b style="color:#060;">Rlevse</b> • Talk  • 16:05, 11 July 2010 (UTC)

Re: Edward Drinker Cope TFA
Go ahead—I haven't really followed TFA/R in years it seems, so if you want to throw it up, be my guest! Der Wohltemperierte Fuchs ( talk ) 18:25, 11 July 2010 (UTC)
 * Alright, I've added the request here, if you would like to tweak the blurb or comment. Cheers, Dabomb87 (talk) 15:09, 12 July 2010 (UTC)

List of Recopa Sudamericana winners
Why did you fail the list? Jamen Somasu (talk) 22:51, 11 July 2010 (UTC)
 * Read the closure log for the directors summary. <b style="color:#E32636;">Rambo's Revenge</b> <b style="color:#FFA500;">(talk)</b>  23:10, 11 July 2010 (UTC)
 * I wasn't talking to you. I am talking to the FL Director. For the FL Director...I will be blunt: you have some blatant double-standards when it comes to promoting or not promoting certain lists. I will be reporting this to the proper people on wiki because, honestly, you do not deserve to be a director for anything here. Jamen Somasu (talk) 02:09, 12 July 2010 (UTC)
 * Please be more specific as to my "double-standards". I do not have a bias against you or the topic of the list. I will ask The Rambling Man to review my closure if you feel my rationale was not satisfactory. Dabomb87 (talk) 03:39, 12 July 2010 (UTC)
 * Please also see Wikipedia talk:Featured list candidates and comment if you like. Dabomb87 (talk) 03:56, 12 July 2010 (UTC)
 * In case you were not aware: Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Countering systemic bias. <b style="color:#E32636;">Rambo's Revenge</b> <b style="color:#FFA500;">(talk)</b>  10:04, 12 July 2010 (UTC)
 * Thanks for the heads-up. I would prefer to keep the discussion at WT:FLC, as I don't believe systemic bias is an issue in this. However, if Jamen wants to discuss it there, I am more than willing to do so. Dabomb87 (talk) 14:38, 12 July 2010 (UTC)

Closing FLC
Hiya. You closed Featured list candidates/FC Barcelona in Europe/archive1 but I think you messed it up. Also, why did you keep reminding me of Jamens Copa America list? He never took any steps regarding the unfair image use? Cheerio, Sandman888 (talk) 22:44, 15 July 2010 (UTC)
 * No, I did that on purpose so that it will be easy to restart the nomination when I close one of your older noms. As for the reminders, sorry, it's hard to keep track of who's revisited what recently. Cheers, Dabomb87 (talk) 02:19, 16 July 2010 (UTC)

TFA action
The edit I performed avails the oldid number for the mainpage date with the click of a button. Thus, you can see what the article looked like when it was on the main page. It serves a similar purrpose to other action links in this regard.--TonyTheTiger (T/C/BIO/WP:CHICAGO/WP:FOUR) 04:34, 17 July 2010 (UTC)
 * I will be undoing your reversions for this reason. If you have a reason why you think an oldid is problematic let me know.--TonyTheTiger (T/C/BIO/WP:CHICAGO/WP:FOUR) 04:35, 17 July 2010 (UTC)
 * Alright, I guess that's fine. If you could make a notice on WT:FA or somewhere else that you are doing this that would be great. Cheers, Dabomb87 (talk) 04:37, 17 July 2010 (UTC)
 * I just do it for WP:CHICAGO articles quarterly.--TonyTheTiger (T/C/BIO/WP:CHICAGO/WP:FOUR) 04:39, 17 July 2010 (UTC)
 * By the way, you may be interested in User:Dr pda/articlehistory.js. Dabomb87 (talk) 04:39, 17 July 2010 (UTC)

Thanks
I didn't so much forget to transclude Minnie Pwerle's FAC, as ran out of time, having to take my son to a birthday party for two hours. Wierdly, you and I must have hit save within minutes of each other - so thank you for being on the ball about housekeeping at WP, and getting to it first. regards, hamiltonstone (talk) 03:36, 18 July 2010 (UTC)
 * No problem. Dabomb87 (talk) 03:37, 18 July 2010 (UTC)

If I have any admin TPSers...
Please move Featured article candidates/Sheffield to Featured article candidates/Sheffield/archive1. Thanks, Dabomb87 (talk) 03:08, 15 July 2010 (UTC)
 * I also assumed that the request was to update the old links where appropriate and delete the old page, so did that as well. BencherliteTalk 07:36, 15 July 2010 (UTC)
 * Thanks so much! Dabomb87 (talk) 14:19, 15 July 2010 (UTC)
 * No problems; surprised it took 4.5 hours for someone to do it. Clearly you have even fewer friends than me... ;-) BencherliteTalk 14:52, 15 July 2010 (UTC)
 * Just fewer admin ones, hah. Gary King  ( talk  ·  scripts )  16:21, 15 July 2010 (UTC)
 * Well, it's about time Dabomb87 went through hellweek and got the tools xeself. BencherliteTalk 16:36, 15 July 2010 (UTC)

Is now the time to bring The Big Question up again? If you're up for it, I'd be happy to nominate you for adminship. Karanacs (talk) 16:40, 15 July 2010 (UTC)
 * Joint. Sandy Georgia  (Talk) 21:45, 15 July 2010 (UTC)
 * If you all think I'm ready, then I might as well take the plunge. Why Gary and Sandy have not already gone through RfA is beyond me (you both are much more qualified), but I'll give it a go anyhow. Dabomb87 (talk) 15:13, 16 July 2010 (UTC)
 * Excellent news. Although I hope that if you got the tools we wouldn't lose too much of your fantastic reviewing work! <b style="color:#E32636;">Rambo's Revenge</b> <b style="color:#FFA500;">(talk)</b>  15:28, 16 July 2010 (UTC)
 * If you become an admin then there's less of a reason for me to become one. There's one extra admin to do my dirty work! Yes I am evil. Gary King  ( talk  ·  scripts )  17:35, 16 July 2010 (UTC)
 * About bloody time! Excellent news. Matthewedwards : Chat  23:32, 16 July 2010 (UTC)
 * Hey Matthew, good to see you out and about! Dabomb87 (talk) 23:59, 16 July 2010 (UTC)
 * Finally! Dabomb, I'm going to have very limited internet access until early August-- do you want to wait, or do you want Karanacs to nom without me?  Sandy Georgia  (Talk) 00:04, 17 July 2010 (UTC)
 * I'm in no hurry; feel free to start the nom in August. Dabomb87 (talk) 00:08, 17 July 2010 (UTC)
 * OK, since I'm utterly swamped, would you ping me August 5th to remind me? Thanks for everything!!  Sandy Georgia  (Talk) 11:49, 17 July 2010 (UTC)
 * About... damn... time. Courcelles (talk) 01:54, 17 July 2010 (UTC)
 * I'm glad all my TPSers showed up nearly two days after I actually needed them ;) Dabomb87 (talk) 01:57, 17 July 2010 (UTC)
 * You're not an admin? Heck, I may make an exception to my nom-retirement just for you if allowed XD Wizardman  Operation Big Bear 03:43, 17 July 2010 (UTC)

Yea! I'll start work on a nomination statement soon so we'll be ready when Sandy gets back. Karanacs (talk) 14:47, 19 July 2010 (UTC)

Featured list removal candidates/List of Testudines families/archive1
I answered your question, hopefully it's acceptable so it can be closed. Wizardman Operation Big Bear 23:08, 18 July 2010 (UTC)
 * Thanks, I'll close it in a day or two. Dabomb87 (talk) 03:01, 19 July 2010 (UTC)

Quick Comment
Thank you very much for your kind words. I have a local personal (amatuerish) web site for the book (although it is on Amazon, etc and in bookstores) at www.austin-history-book.webs.com where you can buy a copy using PayPal and I'll sign it for you if you want. If you like Austin AND postcards I'm sure you would enjoy it. <small style="white-space:nowrap;border:1px solid #008080;padding:1px;"> Austex •  Talk  12:42, 20 July 2010 (UTC)
 * With your permission may I copy a portion of your comment over to the Austin talkpage below the CIO secton? <small style="white-space:nowrap;border:1px solid #008080;padding:1px;"> Austex  •  Talk  13:00, 20 July 2010 (UTC)
 * Feel free. Dabomb87 (talk) 13:10, 20 July 2010 (UTC)

Break
Hey, just a quick flying visit, firstly to apologise for not giving notice of my wikibreak (it was something of a rush job for me) and secondly to let you know that I'll definitely be back into reviewing those pesky lists which get unanimous support as of a week today. I noticed Stax's 3,000 hit club needed a bit of a going over, done that, couldn't see anything else really pressing. Closed the LDS list as well, since you voted. Hope all is well, if you need me for anything, email me, I can pick that up infrequently, but more frequently than getting online right now. All the best. The Rambling Man (talk) 18:21, 20 July 2010 (UTC)
 * No problem, and thanks for picking up on the LDS list. Cheers, Dabomb87 (talk) 18:22, 20 July 2010 (UTC)

Thank Heavens
Thank Heavens you're there to look after me. :-) Malleus Fatuorum 00:52, 21 July 2010 (UTC)
 * Ah, don't mention it. I've made hundreds of similar mistakes in my time here. Dabomb87 (talk) 03:02, 21 July 2010 (UTC)

Today's feature article help
Hi Dabomb87. I have been thinking of nominating an article for Today's Feature Article, but I'm a bit confused with the process. Can you please explain it to me on my talkpage? Thanks in advance. Secret Saturdays  ( talk to me )  20:34, 21 July 2010 (UTC)
 * See WP:TFAR and Wikipedia Signpost/2008-08-18/Dispatches. Those pages describe it well, but in short, the Featured article director, Raul654, is in charge of choosing Today's Featured Article (TFA). Obviously, an article must be featured to be nominated at TFA, and once an article has been chosen for TFA it cannot be used again. Dabomb87 (talk) 20:45, 21 July 2010 (UTC)

List of Washington & Jefferson Presidents football seasons
Greetings. I'm wondering if I could have your quick opinion on something. Right now, I'm working on List of Washington & Jefferson Presidents football seasons, and I am having problems with the "Conference finish" column. I am unable to find conference rankings for a number of seasons where the team was not the champion. How important is this information to an FLC? I know you can't make any guarantees about how the discussion would go. Do you think that information gap this might be overlooked? Do you think it might be feasible to rename that column "Conference championships"? Would that fly. I'd appreciate any advice you could give me.--GrapedApe (talk) 06:29, 22 July 2010 (UTC)
 * Considering that so far you've found only the times they've finished first, renaming to "Conference championships" sounds like a good idea. Dabomb87 (talk) 13:57, 22 July 2010 (UTC)
 * Thanks. I will--GrapedApe (talk) 21:40, 22 July 2010 (UTC)

Brexx
Don't worry about it. In general, though, if the reason an article is semi-protected is because of socking (you can see it in the logbook under "Logbooks for this page" on the history tab), it's a good idea to ask the protecting admin before proceeding with an editsemiprotected request. In this case because I can see deleted revisions of pages I could see that the request was identical to a deleted request by another sockpuppet.&mdash;Kww(talk) 21:29, 22 July 2010 (UTC)
 * Good to know; I will keep that in mind going forward. Thanks, Dabomb87 (talk) 21:31, 22 July 2010 (UTC)

Signpost
I don't know if you missed it, my archival bot will whisk it away shortly, but I would be happy to pick a new FL for the Signpost Sunday. Courcelles (talk) 23:45, 22 July 2010 (UTC)
 * Yep, I saw your reply. Thanks! Dabomb87 (talk) 00:32, 23 July 2010 (UTC)

Stephens City FAC
Per this, sorry. :S I am new to the process (first FAC ever) and didn't know. Thanks for letting me know. If I have another FAC in the future, I will know. Again, sorry. - <small style="white-space:nowrap;border:1px solid #900;padding:1px;"> Neutralhomer •  Talk  • 04:30, 23 July 2010 (UTC)
 * No need to apologize; it's a minor thing. Dabomb87 (talk) 13:41, 23 July 2010 (UTC)

Niagara Parks Butterfly Conservatory
Here's a new article I created. Please help improve it. It's also up for DYK for 24 July. <span style="font-family:Verdana,sans-serif"> — <b style="color:#060;">Rlevse</b> • Talk  • 21:26, 25 July 2010 (UTC)
 * Interesting article and nice pictures, though I'm not a big fan of the gallery (see WP:IG). Do we need three images each of the butterfly structure and conservatory? Dabomb87 (talk) 21:34, 25 July 2010 (UTC)
 * I cut the building images in the gallery. I know galleries are frowned upon but in this case IMHO it adds to the article and they're all CC license. I have lots more pics that aren't uploaded yet ;-) <span style="font-family:Verdana,sans-serif"> — <b style="color:#060;">Rlevse</b> • Talk  • 21:44, 25 July 2010 (UTC)
 * Jack and MS made some really nice tweaks here last night, check them out. <span style="font-family:Verdana,sans-serif"> — <b style="color:#060;">Rlevse</b> • Talk  • 10:16, 26 July 2010 (UTC)

Featured article candidates/National Anthem of Russia/archive4
The citation needed issue was addressed. User:Zscout370 (Return Fire) 21:34, 25 July 2010 (UTC)
 * Noted and struck, thanks. I probably won't be able to review the article in full though. Dabomb87 (talk) 21:36, 25 July 2010 (UTC)
 * Well, it has been through about 3 FAC's this year, and everything else has been worked on. The problem is that the last FAC, it failed with a vote of 1-0 and right now, it is 0-0. User:Zscout370 (Return Fire) 01:45, 26 July 2010 (UTC)
 * Hm, that's frustrating. I'll try to take a look tomorrow or Tuesday, but I won't make promises. Dabomb87 (talk) 02:04, 26 July 2010 (UTC)
 * Thanks for what you have done so far. User:Zscout370 (Return Fire) 02:50, 26 July 2010 (UTC)
 * I mostly use vcite for the laws and books I know I will use a lot. User:Zscout370 (Return Fire) 05:12, 27 July 2010 (UTC)

FLCs
Hey D, back now, but work will no doubt limit my availability. I hate to do this, but if you could highlight the lists which need a look, that'd be useful. I'll try to get round to a few reviews before the end of the week, but it's most likely to be Friday afternoon before I can dedicate a heap of time to the process. Hope all is well. The Rambling Man (talk) 19:53, 26 July 2010 (UTC)
 * Welcome back, and will do. Dabomb87 (talk) 20:49, 26 July 2010 (UTC)

Thanks again !
... for keeping up with WP:URFA. Sandy Georgia (Talk) 21:41, 26 July 2010 (UTC)

Question about quotations and punctuation
I have a question about quotations and punctuation: if in the source the quotation ends with punctuation I keep the punctuation inside the quotation marks per WP:LQ (and per a discussion about this with Awadewit). If I've taken a partial sentence from the source without punctuation, then I place the punctuation after the quotation marks. I'm I doing it wrong? Was wondering about your recent edits to Edmund Evans specifically, but have run into this situation on other articles. Thanks. Truthkeeper88 (talk) 16:40, 27 July 2010 (UTC)
 * LQ has always been a tricky subject, but based on a previous discussion I've had, I interpret the guideline to mean even if the punctuation is part of the original quoted material, the comma/period is not necessary unless their inclusion alters the meaning of the quote. For example, in "Caldecott drew pen and ink illustrations on plain paper that were photographed to wood, and as Evans explains "engraved in facsimile.", the period does not alter the meaning of the quote, so it does not need to be inside the quote marks (I know, that probably made no sense). Hopefully, Tony1 or someone else who is well-versed in these matters can explain more eloquently. In the meantime, feel free to revert some or all of my punctuation changes. Dabomb87 (talk) 16:46, 27 July 2010 (UTC)
 * I probably need to have another conversation with Awadewit or maybe Tony about this. I'm not worried about your edits to Edmund Evans, but I'm in the middle of a big expansion of Ezra Pound which will/does have a fair number of quotations, and it's probably best if I get this straight in my head sooner rather than later. I always include the punctuation from the source; if I shouldn't be, then I have a bunch of copy-editing to do. Truthkeeper88 (talk) 16:52, 27 July 2010 (UTC)
 * Whether the final punctuation goes before or after the closing quotes is problematic, and neither "system" can fitly deal with all circumstances. WP's style is towards the outside punctuation". Like that. But it is acceptable to place the dot before the closing quotes where the quotation in the source really does end in a period. What is not acceptable in WP is "this," where the comma is part of the WP sentence, not the quote. If you want a quick and easy way to do it: final punctuation is outside, except that final period may be inside. MoS is not satisfactorily worded, but finding consensus to update it is hard. Tony   (talk)  16:59, 27 July 2010 (UTC)
 * Thanks Tony! You've just saved me from going through Ezra Pound and fixing. I always put the full stop inside the quotation marks if it occurs in the source - in other words if I'm quoting the full sentence, or the second half of the sentence. Edmund Evans is a bad example, because another editor has been adding to it, and I have a vision problem at the moment that prevents me from seeing well, so I probably missed the mistakes. Truthkeeper88 (talk) 17:05, 27 July 2010 (UTC)

Featured list candidates/Cave In discography/archive1
Can I continue the works on this list?--  C  anniba loki  17:55, 27 July 2010 (UTC)
 * Do you want me to re-open the nomination? Dabomb87 (talk) 17:58, 27 July 2010 (UTC)
 * Yes! As you are the FLC director, ask the User:Fezmar9 first please.--  C  anniba loki  18:03, 27 July 2010 (UTC)
 * OK, I have reinstated the nomination Dabomb87 (talk) 18:20, 27 July 2010 (UTC)
 * Thanks!--  C  anniba loki  18:22, 27 July 2010 (UTC)

Pick of the week
Thanks for the invitation, but I'm away this weekend without a computer which will make it tricky! Perhaps another time? Regards, BencherliteTalk 05:46, 28 July 2010 (UTC)
 * No problem. Dabomb87 (talk) 13:16, 28 July 2010 (UTC)
 * heyy, sorry for the late reply. i won't have access this weekend either, but another time yes definitely :) Mister sparky (talk) 13:22, 29 July 2010 (UTC)
 * OK, thanks for the reply. Dabomb87 (talk) 13:24, 29 July 2010 (UTC)


 * Hahaha, I see you're having a tough go, but I too will be away this weekend and can't 100% confirm I'd be able to. Almost any other weekend though, absolutely! Staxringold talkcontribs 19:00, 29 July 2010 (UTC)
 * No problem; I don't give up that easily ;) Dabomb87 (talk) 19:04, 29 July 2010 (UTC)

Thanks
Thanks for fixing up my screwed up subst: on Talk:Teri Garr. Stickee (talk)  13:24, 30 July 2010 (UTC)
 * Sure, no problem. Dabomb87 (talk) 13:25, 30 July 2010 (UTC)