User talk:DaemonDice

Your signature date
How are you managing to use a custom date format? It's... a bad idea. On many levels. - Jarry1250 [Weasel? Discuss.] 21:16, 6 September 2011 (UTC)
 * I combined magic words with custom signature option. Can you list why is it a bad idea? 06-09-2011, 21:26 — DaemonDice (talk)

PEGI icons
(imported from User_talk:Volapükian#Concerning your removal of my edit on Pan European Game Information)

You’ve recently reverted my edit on Pan European Game Information with the reasoning that the icons are not official ones and that the font is incorrect. There is a Labelling and Advertising Guidebook from PEGI dated April 2011 which states (p.10) that “the descriptors with text must be used [..] whenever the PEGI content descriptors are being used in a monolingual context (box, website, advertisement, trailer, etc.)”. English Wikipedia seems to be fitting that description of a monolingual context (even though it’s not being the reviewed material itself), so in terms of officially correct\allowed representations I think the annotated icons are not invalid. Please correct my reasoning if it is wrong.

Regarding the incorrect font used for the annotations, could you please specify which font was used in the original icons, so the icons can be corrected? I’ve tried googling it but there didn’t seem to be any official memo about it, and all I managed to find was the abovementioned guideline (which discusses only fonts for the word “PROVISIONAL”). DaemonDice (talk) 12:42, 29 April 2014 (UTC)

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Hi, I saw that you replaced the content descriptor images in the PEGI article. I have temporarily undone that change, because the font that is used in your versions is not the correct one and some of the icons are not 100% original. Normally, I'd consider that a minor issue, but we see that Wikipedia is often used as a source to download labels and I want to prevent that an incorrect version of the content descriptors becomes widespread. I agree with you that the article should have icons with English overlay text, but we should get the images up there that are exactly right. I found it very difficult to upload pictures to Wikipedia, so I haven't yet succeeded myself, but I'm more than happy to help out if you know how it can be done (as you can see on my user page, I work for PEGI and therefore possess the correct icons). Volapükian (talk) 12:17, 29 April 2014 (UTC)

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 * |but we see that Wikipedia is often used as a source to download labels and I want to prevent that an incorrect version of the content descriptors becomes widespread. [..] I found it very difficult to upload pictures to Wikipedia

Unfortunately, trying to control the accuracy of information through Wikipedia alone is not enough. Most of the images on Wikipedia are taken from its sister project Wikimedia Commons, and Commons has a whole category dedicated to PEGI-related images. Among those image files, at least those that I’ve recently updated had incorrect aspect ratios (AR was not 1:1, as in both the guidebook and some other images found online) and shapes (e.g. the persons on the Discrimination label were too stretched vertically) that did not match the originals.


 * |I agree with you that the article should have icons with English overlay text, but we should get the images up there that are exactly right.

If you have high definition images for the labels, you can send them to me (DaemonDice at Gmail) and I’ll upload them to Commons. That will serve as a good reference material if someone decides to re-vectorize the shapes to better match the original. I myself can try to fix aspect ratios for no-annotation icons as well, but re-vectorization may be out of my league just yet. DaemonDice (talk) 13:39, 29 April 2014 (UTC)