User talk:Dahn/Archive 10

Thanks!
Dear Dahn! Thanks for your clear and objective comments on the History of Romania>"Wlachia or Romania" dispute. Ethnicity was surely not a political category before the modern era. To confuse statehood and ethic territory is a very common mistake amoung Central-East Europen history interpretations. This is due to many flustrating factors and a shame on modern history education within the region. Thanks again --Kukorelli 15:51, 2 August 2006 (UTC)!!!

care e mai bun la matematica
sal Dahn, itzi zic cu simpatie, nu pierde timp si energie cu ironii fine cu mine, ca ma gadili. fiecare are calitatzi si defecte, stie unele si altele nu, nu itzi imagina ca ejti mai dejtept ca mine ca amandoi suntem prosti si dejtepti in aceeasi masura. sau de fapt nu, io snt parca un pic mai dejtept ca tine, cel putzin asha am io impresia Criztu 21:02, 3 August 2006 (UTC)

What about this?
Spuneai ca nu 'intelegi' aromana, what about graiul banatean? Il intelegi? Vezi Graiul banatean Apostolos Margaritis 09:46, 4 August 2006 (UTC)

Jews in Romania
I've responded to you at User talk:Jmabel. - Jmabel | Talk 22:44, 4 August 2006 (UTC)

Bogdan I
Mai baiatule nu stiu cate clase ai insa de ce te incapaţânezi sa postezi niste porcarii pe pagina dedicata lui Bogdan I? Ce bibliografie ai folosit la realizarea articolului? Folosesti ca bibliografie niste inventii personale care nu au legatura cu realitatea!!! Ma mir ca nu ai sters si poza cu Bogdan I pusa de mine si sa o inlocuiesti cu a ta. Vezi art facut de mine despre Bogdan I.

[- Jurnalul National - Legenda] "Dragos a fost trimis de Ludovic de Anjou, regele Ungariei, pentru a fixa organizarea Regatului Ungariei in acest teritoriu din care tatarii fusesera alungati. Bogdan actioneaza in sensul contrar al regalitatii ungare: fiind supus unei presiuni foarte mari in teritoriile sale din Maramures, a gasit solutia de a-si pastra aceasta distanta fata de Regalitate venind in Moldova" - Ovidiu Cristea, cercetator la Institutul de Istorie "Nicolae Iorga" din Bucuresti
 * Citeste de pe link-ul de mai jos si vezi si ca am extras un citat edificator di articol:

Translation
Can you help me with this: http://www.edrc.ro/recensamant.jsp?regiune_id=1407&judet_id=1579&localitate_id=1638 This Svinita municipality in Romania have Serb majority according to the census, but seems that these Serbs are not Orthodox. What is English name for their religion listed there: "Creştină de rit vechi"? PANONIAN  (talk)  13:45, 5 August 2006 (UTC)


 * "Old-Rite Christians" or "Old Believers". bogdan 13:57, 5 August 2006 (UTC)


 * Ok, thank you for translation. I did not know that there are Serbs who follow this religion, but I guess man learn something every day. :) Regarding map of South Slavs in Romania, I checked detailed ethnic map of Romania that I have, and according to that map, these 6 municipalities are only municipalities of Romania where South Slavs form majority. Bulgarians that live in Dobruja, Bucharest, or in Transylvania do not form majority in any municipality. So, the title of the map "South Slavic ethnic groups in Romania" is quite correct because there is no other municipality of Romania with South Slavic majority. If you really want, I can change title to "South Slavs in the Romanian Banat" or "in Southwestern Romania", but I do not think that this is necessary because current title is correct too. PANONIAN   (talk)  21:08, 5 August 2006 (UTC)


 * Ok now? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:South_slavs_romania.png PANONIAN   (talk)  21:46, 5 August 2006 (UTC)

romanian
Thnaks for the help. Hmains 23:41, 5 August 2006 (UTC)


 * I did not understand something. Here is my goal: to get people articles removed from the 'Greek diaspora' category--none of the other Diaspora categories have people articles directly in them.  If I cannot put them in a 'Greek F00' category, then I put them in 'People of Greek descent' cegegory, which is in the 'Greek diaspora' category.  When I noticed you had left these articles in 'Greek Romanian' category, then I just deleted the 'Greek disapora' category since 'Greek Romanian' category is in the 'People of Greek descent' category, which is in the 'Greek diaspora' category.  To not delete, leaves them in 'double category level' status: the articles are both in a category and its parent or grandparent category.  Sometimes left that way, but I understand WP does not prefer double level cats  Your further thoughts.  Thanks Hmains 00:05, 6 August 2006 (UTC)

Can I put them in the 'people of Greek descent' category instead of directly in the 'Greek diaspora' category' as I mentioned above. Also, I don't understand the meaning of 'entries'. Sorry. Thanks Hmains 00:11, 6 August 2006 (UTC)

P.S., I do not mean to discourage any discussion. I am just putting forth my thoughts and questions on the subject. Thanks. Hmains 00:37, 6 August 2006 (UTC)


 * You are the expert here, not me. Greek Romanian plus 'something else' categories are fine.  I just want to argue that the 'something else' category be 'People of Greek descent' rather than 'Greek diaspora'.  'People of Greek descent' is in category 'Greek diaspora' so the articles would still be [indirectly] in the Diaspora category.  This would make the Greek Diaspora category match the pattern of the other diaspora categories: in each case, the people are placed in the associated 'People of xxx descent' category.  Thanks Hmains 02:32, 6 August 2006 (UTC)


 * I am sorry. This is all beyond me.  I just try to organize, and copyedit, and help WP in small ways.  I am not a reseacher.  Whatever you want to do is fine with me.  Thanks Hmains 04:59, 6 August 2006 (UTC)


 * I just noticed something. Please look at Category:Ethnic German groups of Romania. Might a similar 'Ethnic Greek groups of Romania' help?  Thanks Hmains 18:51, 6 August 2006 (UTC)

Again
Hi again! I currently work on articles related to Serbs that live (or lived) in neighbouring countries, although, I finished article Serbs of Romania, and before I start working on Serbs of Hungary, I want to write two more articles related to Serbs of Romania - Banatska Klisura and Pomorišje. In fact, those are two historical geographical regions inhabited by Serbs similar to for example Mezőség (Hungarian region) or Burzenland (German region). Problem is that I do not know are there Romanian names for "Banatska Klisura" and "Pomorišje", because, if there are Romanian names for them, it would be stupid to write these articles with Serbian names. I also do not know does Romanians have any distinction for these two regions at all, or such distinction exist only among Serbs. "Banatska Klisura" is small region that correspond with the territory of Socol and Pojejena communes of Caras-Severin county, and "Pomorišje" means "a land around river Mures" (but only land that is now in Arad county, not around whole river). So, are there Romanian names for these two regions, or I should start their articles with Serbian names? PANONIAN  (talk)  02:51, 6 August 2006 (UTC)

Nat. Theatre
Responded on my talk page. - Jmabel | Talk 07:00, 6 August 2006 (UTC)

Bulgarians in Romania
Hi! In a comment to PANONIAN's talk you mentioned Bulgarian communities in Romania distinct from those of the Banat Bulgarians. I know almost nothing about these communities, but I'm very curious, do you have any additional and detailed information? The only thing I could find is a very short description of dialects from around Bucharest and a listing of some villages where Bulgarian was still spoken by the elderly people in the 1960s, of which I could identify Brăneşti, Ilfov, Dudeşti, Bucharest, Popeşti-Leordeni and Cioplea. Todor→Bozhinov 11:42, 6 August 2006 (UTC)
 * Yeah, I also thought they were already assimilated. As for Sighetu Marmaţiei, I just don't know why they're giving this as an example (I mean, 0.55% of 20% of 44,185, right?) So the guys from around Bucharest were part of largely the same wave as the Bessarabian Bulgarians, but decided to stay in these parts. I know about the exchange in Northern Dobruja and didn't expect any remaining communities there either. Thanks for the info (Bogdan too)! Todor→Bozhinov 12:37, 6 August 2006 (UTC)

Clisura Dunării
Yes, seems that this is right name, but we have problem with its size: Check this map: http://www.zamolxis.ro/modules.php?name=News&file=article&sid=98 Seems that it include little larger area, and that it include communes of Socol, Pojejena, Moldova Noua, Coronini, Sichevita, and Berzcasca and perhaps even a Svinita. Are those its correct borders or not? PANONIAN  (talk)  14:59, 6 August 2006 (UTC)

Coins
Thanks for finding that material in ro:. I've translated it in Romanian leu. Please have a look, because you are far more truly bilingual than I. - Jmabel | Talk 18:02, 6 August 2006 (UTC)

Dragomans
Hi there,

I noticed you're a native Romanian speaker. Would you be so nice as to make a stub titled ro:Dragoman? I've been categorising the articles about dragomans in Romanian, there are quite a few of them, but there is no article about dragomans. Should the category be titled ro:Categorie:Dragoman, as it is now, or should it be in plural? Best regards, Benne ['bɛnə] (talk) 19:33, 7 August 2006 (UTC)
 * Thank you very much! I've changed the category to ro:Categorie:Dragomani. --Benne ['bɛnə] (talk) 20:47, 7 August 2006 (UTC)
 * Hadn't thought of that yet. I'll try and find something as soon as I have time. There are a few Romanian-language articles that I could not yet figure out as well (for example, there is an article John Mavrocordatos, but I don't know whether it's the same as ro:Ioan Mavrocordat).
 * I figured I'd just put everything in a list, hoping that others would contribute to it. As you can see, all different Wikipedias come up with different dragomans. By adding them all together in a list, the missing articles in the various Wikipedias become clear. --Benne ['bɛnə] (talk) 21:02, 7 August 2006 (UTC)

Transylvania
I have the Transylvania article watchlisted, and so have quite some Hungarian editors, so don't worry, Criztu isn't going to get away with what he's doing. In fact, I think he's someone who cannot "grow up" (maybe, IRL, he hasn't?) - he's willing to comply with rules as long as they don't prevent him from reaching what he wants, but if they do, he'll resort to more and more open trolling (maybe even outright vandalism, who knows). Still, be careful about WP:3RR - I know it doesn't apply to vandalism, but you never know what some admins might think about Criztu's edits. KissL 19:43, 7 August 2006 (UTC)
 * I would say that Criztu is not vandalizing, just editing against consensus. - Jmabel | Talk 23:43, 7 August 2006 (UTC)

History of Bucharest
I think this makes the references less daunting. If you disagree, feel free to revert. - Jmabel | Talk 23:41, 7 August 2006 (UTC)
 * Rather than keep bouncing, I'll respond on my user talk page. - Jmabel | Talk 00:04, 8 August 2006 (UTC)

Clisura Dunării
Hi, I just finished this Clisura Dunării article. Please check did I wrote there its correct borders, and is that a correct list of municipalities in Clisura. PANONIAN  (talk)  16:19, 9 August 2006 (UTC)


 * The sections of the Military Frontier did not had ethnic, but only administrative purpose. Banatian Military Frontier was divided into 3 sections: German, Illyr and Vlach, see: http://terkepek.adatbank.transindex.ro/kepek/netre/184.gif The fact that these sections had names German, Illyr, Vlach, etc was not ethnic designation because for example, the "German" section was mainly populated by Serbs, as you can see here: http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/9/92/Austria_hungary_1911.jpg So, I would remove sentence that it was "divided along ethnic lines". Also, term "Illyr" in this case was a designation for Serbs, because no other South Slavs lived in the region. The term "Illyr" was sometimes a designation for all South Slavs and sometimes for Serbs only. Same like the term "Vlach", which sometimes was a designation for group of the Vlach peoples and sometimes only for Romanians. In this case, terms "Illyr" and "Vlach" do not designate group of peoples, but only Serbs and Romanians. And in English, "klisura" might be gulch, canyon, bay, ravine, or flume according to my vocabulary. :) PANONIAN   (talk)  16:54, 9 August 2006 (UTC)
 * I just expanded a little article about Illyrians, thus it now have explanation for the usage of the term in the Habsburg Monarchy: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Illyrians#Later_usage_of_the_term Regarding whether we should move article to "Danube Gorge", you can do it if you want, but we should know first that this name is used in English, because we should not to invent new names here in Wikipedia. :) If the English name for some geographical area does not exist, then local non-English name could be used. If you found some English source that mention region under name "Danube Gorge", then by all means you can change name. PANONIAN   (talk)  21:01, 9 August 2006 (UTC)

"Danube Gorge is fine, but I think English writers often use the term Iron Gate for that whole stretch of the river, which is probably misleading. Jameswilson 23:39, 16 September 2006 (UTC)

A reminder
No troll feedin' please. :) Don't give him the attention that he wants! If things get bad you could try asking Ronline to semi-protect the noticeboard. I already requested Transylvania on WP:RPP. If you get mad just get up from you computer for a while and relax. Once you feel that you're better again you can come back. However, avoid talking to him. &mdash; Khoikhoi 16:59, 9 August 2006 (UTC)
 * u should listen to coyote, he knows what he's speaking. he made it dozen of times now...--203.106.52.102 17:09, 9 August 2006 (UTC)
 * When he deletes your request just re-add it, and go looking for admins that are online right now to protect it. That's what I'll do now. &mdash; Khoikhoi 17:18, 9 August 2006 (UTC)
 * Don't tell me you're so smart....pls talk with me...--203.106.52.102 17:21, 9 August 2006 (UTC)

Romainian historical regions
Do you share the same views on Template:Romanian historical regions and Template:Ukrainian historical regions, or selective? i.e. "the inclusion into historical regions should be done only on the basis of current territorial ownership? If so, could you please correct the first template. Thanks, KPbIC 21:58, 9 August 2006 (UTC)

Annuaire & le reste
Salut! pas de problème tout va bien! Apparemment le fait d'avoir laissé un message a dissuadé l'autre éditeur d'ergoter à l'infini ("ergoter" signifiant ne pas arreter de négocier et de s'engueuler pour des détails, comme les coqs!). Sinon, il y a un annuaire du Ministère des Affaires étrangères ici, je sais pas si c'est ce que tu cherchais. A + Tazmaniacs 13:50, 10 August 2006 (UTC)