User talk:DanCherek/Archive 7

A barnstar for you!

 * Haha, thanks! Great to see your name popping up around places like AIV and CSD too. DanCherek (talk) 13:23, 20 August 2022 (UTC)

Question from Kubwimbabazi Dieu-aimé on Morita therapy (06:42, 20 August 2022)
hello!how Jude and Jerusalem had been divided ? --Kubwimbabazi Dieu-aimé (talk) 06:42, 20 August 2022 (UTC)


 * Hi! I'm not sure if I fully understand your question. Perhaps you might be interested in one of the following articles? History of Jerusalem or Judea. DanCherek (talk) 13:25, 20 August 2022 (UTC)

It's time to tape their mouth
Hello. Thank you for blocking 134.6.60.70. Unfortunately they're going after us at their talk page. I'm requesting TPA here because apparently I can't do that at AIV. Thanks! lol1 VNIO ( I made a mistake?  talk to me ) 20:57, 20 August 2022 (UTC)


 * I have revoked talk page access. Thanks for reporting. DanCherek (talk) 20:58, 20 August 2022 (UTC)

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Hawaii
Hello!Would you like to delete the redirects? The redirects were created long ago and are in the ‘gray area’, since the names are between original research and the information found in reliable sources. I believe redirects mentioned, as well as Kapau a Nuakea just confuse.
 * Kapauanuakea
 * Kamauli-wahine

The page about Nuʻakea was created by me when I didn‘t understand notability measures, so if you like, delete the article. Wikipedia isn’t a genealogy site; what’s known about Nuʻakea are her parents’ names, partner’s name and the fact she had a famous child. One’s notability cannot be made from another one’s. Miha (talk) 17:08, 21 August 2022 (UTC)


 * Hi, thanks for the message. But I'm not sure that there is any policy-based reason for me to unilaterally speedy-delete those pages. Kapauanuakea was created as the result of a page move; Kamauli-wahine was created by another user and does not seem like an implausible typo; and Nuʻakea can't be deleted by author request because there have been other significant contributors such as 93.136.124.10. You are welcome, of course, to nominate the redirects at WP:RFD and the article via WP:PROD or WP:AFD if you wish. DanCherek (talk) 17:32, 21 August 2022 (UTC)

I understand all should follow the rules. Unfortunately, I can’t present evidence the redirects are ‘harmful’—they’re just pointless. Kapauanuakea is a name found on the (amateur) genealogy sites, so I changed the title in 2021, since the ruler is known as Kapau-a-Nuʻakea in historians’ works. Kamauliwahine’s name is written without a dash in modern historiography. Miha (talk) 18:31, 21 August 2022 (UTC)

P. S. I didn't change the title on my own; rather, another user moved the page when I requested. Should the redirects stay? Not harmful, but not useful. Miha (talk) 18:35, 21 August 2022 (UTC)


 * I agree they're pretty harmless, and if they help readers get to the correctly-titled article, then it's probably a good thing to keep them around. Kapauanuakea has gotten about 150 pageviews since it was moved last year, so I think there are at least some readers – who may not remember where the dashes or ʻokina are located, or who are coming here from those amateur genealogy sites – who benefit from the redirect. DanCherek (talk) 18:41, 21 August 2022 (UTC)

Query about Greenwich University, Karachi content Removed
Dear DanCherek,

Yes content is copied from Greenwich University Karachi official website as reference is given by mentioning website url, it is not an advertisement, it is introduction of University, how the student or any person will get the info about the university if the content is not written well so that's why i copied the material from their Website. so i request you please do not remove the content as it is perfect content and undo the content. 110.34.36.18 (talk) 07:27, 22 August 2022 (UTC)


 * and how is this supposed to be a Advertisement when i am copying content from the official Website, 110.34.36.18 (talk) 07:28, 22 August 2022 (UTC)
 * Hi IP. Even if the text was compatibly licensed, phrases like Your stint at Greenwich will be challenging, inspiring and rewarding because you will be pushing the boundaries of knowledge at one of the best private sector universities belong nowhere on Wikipedia. That's promotion, plain and simple, designed to attract applicants to Greenwich, and that's just not the purpose of the Wikipedia article. As it turns out, every subpage of the university's website has "© Copyright Greenwich University 2022. All rights reserved." at the bottom, which means that it can't be copied to Wikipedia anyway. Sorry, I won't be restoring the content. DanCherek (talk) 11:43, 22 August 2022 (UTC)
 * My Apologies on that, i will upload the content carefully and avoid using these words and i will upload unique content for Greenwich University, Thankyou for your response 110.34.36.18 (talk) 12:03, 22 August 2022 (UTC)

Question from AccurEdited (15:59, 18 August 2022)
Thank you Dan for the welcome! Will study the guidelines and how to do things for now. Anything you feel I should read first? --AccurEdited (talk) 15:59, 18 August 2022 (UTC)


 * Hi, I've posted a welcome message on your talk page with some helpful links for you as you get started. But, don't feel like you need to read every single one of them in their entirety before you do anything else, though – another good way to start is to find some articles about topics that you're interested in and edit them. Let me know at any time if you have additional questions! DanCherek (talk) 17:26, 18 August 2022 (UTC)
 * Thank you! AccurEdited (talk) 03:15, 24 August 2022 (UTC)

DYK for Going Down Home with Daddy
Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 12:03, 27 August 2022 (UTC)

Delete request
Hi, you undid my request of deletios for the page Bringing Home the Body of King Karl XII

I created the page myself but spelled Karl instead of Charles. The page is therefore wrong because of a typo I did myself during the creation. Munifico (talk) 23:58, 27 August 2022 (UTC)


 * Hi there! I think it's okay to leave the redirect in place, even if the main article is titled differently. I declined the speedy deletion request because I did a Google search for "Bringing home the body of King Karl XII" and found plenty of matches for that spelling, so it may be helpful to readers who are trying to get to the article. Redirects are cheap, and it seems fine to keep around for now. As always, if you disagree, you are welcome to nominate it for further discussion at Redirects for discussion. Thanks, DanCherek (talk) 00:45, 28 August 2022 (UTC)

Why did you delete my content?
This is Michelle Rios. Why did you delete my content? I don't understand why. Everything I shared is true and valid. Michelle Marie Rios (Michelle Rios) (talk) 23:44, 24 August 2022 (UTC)


 * We cannot accept content copied wholesale from elsewhere. —Jéské Couriano  v^&lowbar;^v  a little blue Bori 23:51, 24 August 2022 (UTC)
 * Wholesale???? It's from my website. I am Michelle Rios. Shall I show proof? Michelle Marie Rios (Michelle Rios) (talk) 23:53, 24 August 2022 (UTC)
 * It being from your website is irrelevant. Unless you explicitly released the content under a licence Wikipedia can accept, we can't use it because the standard copyright is mutually-exclusive with Wikipedia's copyright licence. —Jéské Couriano  v^&lowbar;^v  a little blue Bori 23:58, 24 August 2022 (UTC)
 * I also edited the content to not have it displayed as written on my website and it was still deleted. How come? Michelle Marie Rios (Michelle Rios) (talk) 23:54, 24 August 2022 (UTC)
 * Cosmetic modification of the content doesn't stop it being infringing as far as Wikipedia is concerned. —Jéské Couriano  v^&lowbar;^v  a little blue Bori 23:58, 24 August 2022 (UTC)
 * Ms. Rios, both User:Jéské Couriano and User:DanCherek are very experienced wikipedians who do their best to prevent harm to subjects of articles we classify as WP:Biographies of Living Persons. Imagine how you would feel if someone created an article about you which was impersonated, completely false or attcked you in some way. These editors were protecting Wikipedia from doing damage to Michelle Rios, so please know that their highest priority was protecting another human being, such actions inadvertently causing you minor upset. Since Wikipedia is an encyclopedia, not a social media outlet, such actions are bound to occur. If you'd like to further discuss the draft, let's do that over at your user talk page and not on the talk page of worthy DanCherek. BusterD (talk) 00:15, 25 August 2022 (UTC)
 * My talk page is always open, but thanks for taking it from here, BusterD (and Jéské)! It looks like you and Michelle are off to a good start; please let me know if I can be of assistance along the way. DanCherek (talk) 01:11, 25 August 2022 (UTC)
 * Since you're the deleting admin I'm giving you a heads up I plan on creating a new draft using found sources. I'd like to do this in cooperation with the subject as opposed to doing it meatpuppet-style. I intend to put any such created draft up for AFC review before any move back to mainspace. I would think this could take a few weeks or so, depending on Ms. Rios' assistance. Who knows? We may have found someone which can help us improve theater-related pages. If, not, at least we may gain a good example of BLP cooperation to put forward. BusterD (talk) 04:15, 28 August 2022 (UTC)
 * Sure thing. Good luck, hope it goes smoothly! DanCherek (talk) 12:51, 28 August 2022 (UTC)

REX
Hi Dan. Hope all is well. A belated congrats on your well-deserved adminship! As you seem to be the most active REX editor, just thought I'd leave a note that for the foreseeable future I have access to the collections of cornell university libraries pretty much daily. If you happen to see portions of a book or resource that they hold requested, feel free to ping me and I'll try to help out. They also have very good ILL relationships with various universities, but especially fast for ones held by those in the ivy league, so I may be able to request some scans through that as well. Best, Eddie891 Talk Work 03:01, 29 August 2022 (UTC)


 * Thanks Eddie! That's awesome, I'll keep that in mind (and great to hear about Cornell!). Also, as I mentioned to Gerda above, I'll be finishing up my graduate program in a few months and may be much more reliant on REX myself in the future after I graduate... DanCherek (talk) 12:17, 29 August 2022 (UTC)
 * That's exciting news-- I wish you luck going forward! And if you ever need something that I can help with, don't hesitate to reach out. It would be an honor to fulfill your REX requests :) Eddie891 Talk Work 20:39, 29 August 2022 (UTC)

Deleted page - i have copyrights
Hello, you just deleter one draft page that i created under the reason of copyrighted material.

I have copyrights to add it and use it Lebaneze (talk) 05:16, 30 August 2022 (UTC)


 * Hi. What is your connection with Basel Ahmad Al-Haroon and/or GMCO? It sounds like you have a conflict of interest, in which case you should first disclose it per WP:COI. Please refer to Donating copyrighted materials for more information on how to release material under a compatibly free license (but doing so will allow anyone to share, distribute, transmit, and adapt your work, even commercially). However, I will also point out that Wikipedia is primarily interested in what reliable, secondary sources have to say about a particular subject, and so basing an entire article on someone's official bio is generally not appropriate either. DanCherek (talk) 05:21, 30 August 2022 (UTC)

RD
Dan, I hope you still like flowers and music, especially when flowers and sky come like the Ukrainian flag ;) - I have a sad case on DYK today, Ruslana Pysanka. She was ITN before, in the RD group, Recent deaths. That is a field where I sometimes need help, and wonder if you'd be willing. It's easy: nominations appear on WP:ITNN, they need supports (3 and more) and no oppose, and then are placed at the beginning of the group In the news, discarding the last one. Crediting those involved is super-easy: just a click on the word behind the name, that's it. At the moment I have Zofia Posmysz there, marked ready last night, but not moved. Perhaps because older ones should be handled first. Perhaps because I received a credit today already. One consideration is that every entry should last for 24 hours. Perhaps do nothing right now and just look and see if that is a field where you might want to work occasionally - weekends and vacation time make it slow, while it normally functions well, I must say. -- Gerda Arendt (talk) 13:07, 10 August 2022 (UTC)


 * Hi Gerda! Thanks as always for the stunning photos. I will think about ITNN, but no guarantees nor am I going to add it to my watchlist at the moment (I did that for about 15 other maintenance pages last night and it's a little overwhelming, so need to try to get the hang of things first ). Maybe when things settle down a bit. Good luck with the nomination, the article is excellent! DanCherek (talk) 14:00, 10 August 2022 (UTC)
 * Thank you! The article's excellence is due to Poeticbent (expert of language and history), whom I can't get into the credits because he gave up long ago, so no "updater", but also didn't "create" in the strict sense we use it here. I'll see what I can do, and am not even sure he'd ever look back to here. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 14:27, 10 August 2022 (UTC)
 * new pics and thoughts on 13 August --Gerda Arendt (talk) 09:54, 13 August 2022 (UTC)
 * Haroun and the Sea of Stories – interesting! DanCherek (talk) 15:33, 13 August 2022 (UTC)
 * I grabbed that old (April 2020) DYK when they were still arguing if the attack on free thought was fit for the Main page ... - replaced today by "my" concert of the year (so far), on the Main page but not pictured, and I don't understand why --Gerda Arendt (talk) 19:51, 15 August 2022 (UTC)
 * Yes, File:Thomanerchor, Lutherkirche, Wiesbaden, RMF.jpg is a pretty gorgeous photo. As are the sunflowers! More coincidences: same promoter! DanCherek (talk) 20:22, 15 August 2022 (UTC)
 * I'll try with the next piece on the program ;) --Gerda Arendt (talk) 21:31, 15 August 2022 (UTC)
 * ... which proved more difficult than I thought: Die Deutsche Liturgie, to be expanded. - The last week brought more outstanding concerts and bike tours, - how is your summer? --Gerda Arendt (talk) 19:28, 21 August 2022 (UTC)
 * I've been staying busy! I am planning to finish up my graduate program with a dissertation defense in the spring of next year, and our program requires us to formally outline a plan for that six months ahead of time, so that's taking up a lot of my time now. It's good, though, to feel like I'm in the home stretch, and I'm excited to see where I'll be around this time next year – probably in a new city with a new job! I'm glad to see that you're staying as active as ever (though all that biking sounds exhausting). In a few days, if you'd like some help with expanding Die Deutsche Liturgie, I'm happy to take a look – Mendelssohn is one of my favorite composers! – but it's back to working on PowerPoint for me, for now... :) DanCherek (talk) 19:45, 21 August 2022 (UTC)
 * The latest fad in biking is using trails built on former railroads, going downhill only, and very gradually so (... but then you want to see a Maar from above ...) - another one like that planned for tomorrow, Debussy's birthday, - little action. The Carus preface is useful, - go ahead if you have the time, but I will if not. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 20:21, 21 August 2022 (UTC)
 * another great tour on Debussy's birthday --Gerda Arendt (talk) 21:39, 22 August 2022 (UTC)

Ukrainian Independence Day, and I began a Ukrainian baritone, Danylo Matviienko. I need a break: Bach concert with a baritone, Benjamin Appl. Need to find links for POB, place of studies, teachers, - some possibly ill links. If you have a few minutes, you could probably do that faster ;) --Gerda Arendt (talk) 15:51, 24 August 2022 (UTC)


 * I took a crack at it. DanCherek (talk) 16:21, 24 August 2022 (UTC)
 * After another look, I won't be able to attend to the Mendelssohn piece, sorry. I thought I found some promising sources but they ended up being passing mentions in reviews of the Kammerchor Stuttgart, and my German isn't nearly good enough to try to make sense of Carus. Good luck! DanCherek (talk) 22:11, 26 August 2022 (UTC)
 * I'll try, and the Carus has English and French also. Last day tomorrow. - Today: the church where I heard VOCES8 and more discoveries --Gerda Arendt (talk) 21:47, 27 August 2022 (UTC)
 * I nominated, but the history should still be improved, per Carus. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 14:18, 30 August 2022 (UTC)

Women in Red in September 2022
--Lajmmoore (talk) 15:34, 31 August 2022 (UTC) via MassMessaging

A barnstar for you!

 * Thanks for the barnstar (and for flagging it in the first place)! Happy to help wherever I can. DanCherek (talk) 04:10, 1 September 2022 (UTC)
 * Oh, and there's another one : RonaІd Іsаiаh МerkІe CollectiveSolidarity (talk) 04:33, 1 September 2022 (UTC)
 * ✅ DanCherek (talk) 04:34, 1 September 2022 (UTC)

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DYK for Creekfinding
— Maile (talk) 12:02, 1 September 2022 (UTC)

CC By
Is it compatible?  –MinisterOfReligion  (Talk) 06:39, 1 September 2022 (UTC)


 * Owais Al Qarni, CC BY and CC BY-SA is compatable here, but CC BY-NC-ND, CC BY-NC-SA, or other more restrictive licenses isn't. CactiStaccingCrane (talk) 08:40, 1 September 2022 (UTC)
 * Please see WP:COMPLIC for a handy table. One important detail: CC BY-SA 4.0 is not a compatible license for (though images are fine). DanCherek (talk) 12:07, 1 September 2022 (UTC)

User:William Myers Bugbee is out of many, one
Hi Dan--how did that block come about? Thanks, Drmies (talk) 18:05, 1 September 2022 (UTC)


 * Hi, I saw three accounts that had been created around the same time (and all had made edits around the same time):
 * This was pretty suspicious to me, so I looked at similarly named accounts and found the following that had previously been blocked:
 * ... with almost all of those being tagged as socks of, who seems to specialize in sockpuppets with odd names and geography-related edits. That was enough to block for me, but let me know if you disagree. DanCherek (talk) 18:10, 1 September 2022 (UTC)
 * WTF? OK, I'll tell you how I ended up there: I saw the account being created by User:I am out of many, one, so I'm going to take another look. Thanks. Drmies (talk) 18:16, 1 September 2022 (UTC)
 * (Also, and .) DanCherek (talk) 18:16, 1 September 2022 (UTC)
 * Gotcha. Thanks. Drmies (talk) 18:46, 1 September 2022 (UTC)
 * ... with almost all of those being tagged as socks of, who seems to specialize in sockpuppets with odd names and geography-related edits. That was enough to block for me, but let me know if you disagree. DanCherek (talk) 18:10, 1 September 2022 (UTC)
 * WTF? OK, I'll tell you how I ended up there: I saw the account being created by User:I am out of many, one, so I'm going to take another look. Thanks. Drmies (talk) 18:16, 1 September 2022 (UTC)
 * (Also, and .) DanCherek (talk) 18:16, 1 September 2022 (UTC)
 * Gotcha. Thanks. Drmies (talk) 18:46, 1 September 2022 (UTC)
 * WTF? OK, I'll tell you how I ended up there: I saw the account being created by User:I am out of many, one, so I'm going to take another look. Thanks. Drmies (talk) 18:16, 1 September 2022 (UTC)
 * (Also, and .) DanCherek (talk) 18:16, 1 September 2022 (UTC)
 * Gotcha. Thanks. Drmies (talk) 18:46, 1 September 2022 (UTC)

greetings
hi Georgedefreitas (talk) 17:20, 1 September 2022 (UTC)


 * Hi there. DanCherek (talk) 17:36, 1 September 2022 (UTC)
 * Thank you, for the editing and articles, publishing Guidelines. If you have a guidelines video that you would recommend I would be very grateful as I am new to Wikipedia Georgedefreitas (talk) 17:44, 1 September 2022 (UTC)
 * I don't know about a video, but I would recommend reading the following pages about important Wikipedia policies:
 * Paid-contribution disclosure
 * Copyright violations
 * You will need to disclose your conflict of interest with regards to the topics you're seeking to write about, before proceeding further on that front. Thanks, DanCherek (talk) 17:54, 1 September 2022 (UTC)
 * cool, thanks for the guidance Georgedefreitas (talk) 19:09, 1 September 2022 (UTC)

Paraphrase
Sir! I want to clean up that article, by re-paraphrasing those closely paraphrased sentences. In this, I want your help. --Haoreima (talk) 04:54, 2 September 2022 (UTC)


 * Great to hear (and no need to call me "sir", please). As I mentioned, when summarizing information from sources, it's important to be careful about close paraphrasing, which is superficial modification of the source material, such as slight reordering of words while retaining much of the original word choice and sentence structure. I sometimes find it helpful to read the source material, then try to summarize it without directly referring to it (of course you can look at it afterwards, but this might help avoid the temptation of using the same or substantially similar phrasing). You may also be interested in this helpful WikiEdu module on copyright and plagiarism. DanCherek (talk) 05:00, 2 September 2022 (UTC)

Revdel
Can you confirm how "revdel" was actually warranted on this article? I don't see any copyright violation in the text as it existed. I used my own wording to preserve the meaning and content and there was no exact same match between the Wikipedia wording and the article content. A revdel can be used only if a good chunk of content was directly lifted but I don't see if that criteria was met. Pranesh Ravikumar (talk) 09:10, 31 August 2022 (UTC)
 * Well, in this case, a good chunk of content was directly lifted. I compared the text you added at 13:28, 30 August 2022 to page 354 of Modi's India: Hindu Nationalism and the Rise of Ethnic Democracy (2021) and found significant copying from that source, including the following (overlapping text in bold):
 * Source:


 * Your addition:


 * So no, you clearly did not use your own wording; it looks like you did a direct copy/paste and then tried to change a few words in each sentence. I strongly recommend you reconsider your approach to responding to copyright warnings. Labeling a valid copyvio warning as "absurdly laughable" instead of reflecting on the issues with your edits is not going to do you any good, and was completely correct to remove it from the article and request revision deletion. DanCherek (talk) 12:02, 31 August 2022 (UTC)


 * Thanks for producing the evidence. Seems like I had to work more on this paragraph. I agree this was a copyvio and have removed the "labeling" from my talk page. Pranesh Ravikumar (talk) 12:42, 31 August 2022 (UTC)
 * I appreciate that, thanks for your understanding. DanCherek (talk) 13:13, 31 August 2022 (UTC)
 * Hey Dan. Would you agree that this is a copyright violation as well? It uses the same source. I'm asking because I have opened an AE report against Ravikumar where they are rejecting that it is one. Tayi Arajakate  Talk 07:05, 3 September 2022 (UTC)
 * I see a little similarity but it's pretty minor. I've gone ahead and reworded it though, noting that I have not formed an opinion on whether it should ultimately be included in the article from a content perspective. Thanks, DanCherek (talk) 11:52, 3 September 2022 (UTC)

WELCOME TO DAN CHEREK
HI DAN, I AM GLAD TO HAVE A MENTOR WITH YOUR EXPERIENCE IN SCIENCE AND OTHER. MY NAME IS RODOLFO SALINAS, FROM LIMA, PERU, SOUTH AMERICA, 90 YEARS OLD IN GOOD PHYSICAL AND MENTAL CONDITIONS, MAIN SPORT: SURFING, STUDIED CIVIL ENGINEERING, URBANISM AND BUSINESS ADMINISTRATION (WITH SOME STUDIES AT HARVARD B.S.), PLAY DE VIOLIN (MOSTLY WITH PIANO ACCOMP.), ENJOY PLAYING CHESS, ONE OF MY HOBBIES IS TO MEMORIZE NUMBERS AND CELLULAR NUMBERS (I HAVE DEVELOPED A METHOD TO DO IT EASELY). THANK YOU IN ADVANCE FOR YOUR ASSISTANCE WITH WIKIPEDIA (WHICH IS GREAT!). RODOLFO (23NOV31) 23NOV31 (talk) 17:57, 3 September 2022 (UTC)


 * Hi Rodolfo, welcome to Wikipedia! If you need help with a specific part of editing, feel free to ask. Otherwise, check out my message on your talk page for some links that you may find useful! DanCherek (talk) 19:10, 3 September 2022 (UTC)

Map help?
Once before, I discovered that you have a secret talent with maps. I have yet another map request that was picked up and then discarded at the Graphics lab. Obviously, you have many things on your plate and I do not want to overburden you, but would this be something you could help me with? If not, no worries. I am always thankful for your ability to help when you can. SusunW (talk) 17:44, 29 August 2022 (UTC)


 * Hi Susun. I think your request is to take this map and update some of the text in the legend? I can try to do that but it may be a few days before I can get to it. DanCherek (talk) 17:54, 29 August 2022 (UTC)
 * Yes, that's exactly what I need. No problem, I just took the article live today. If you note in the request the North/South orientation on the map in that book is wrong, which might also be confusing to people. I really appreciate you taking a look at it. Should I mark the request at the Graphics lab as resolved? SusunW (talk) 18:26, 29 August 2022 (UTC)
 * I don't see a North/South marking on the map, am I missing something? Sure, feel free to resolve the request if you'd like. DanCherek (talk) 18:51, 29 August 2022 (UTC)
 * Exactly, there isn't one on that map, but I found a digitized copy of the book which gives its text and a few images. Although it doesn't give the map from page 255, it has this plate 29 which shows the north/south orientation of the property. SusunW (talk) 19:39, 29 August 2022 (UTC)
 * Looking at this today... DanCherek (talk) 12:56, 4 September 2022 (UTC)
 * Do you know what those three squares next to #1 and #2 in the legend are, and whether those are important? DanCherek (talk) 14:45, 4 September 2022 (UTC)
 * No idea. I looked at both the 1855 original map and the 2022 "redo" (page 51, via Project Muse) by Miller Shores Wright and neither of them explains what those squares are, nor can I see any such squares on the map itself, that they might relate to. SusunW (talk) 15:16, 4 September 2022 (UTC)

About your worrisome comment and disregard of the civility policy
Hi. I am contacting you per WP:ADMINISTRATORABUSE, "If a user believes an administrator has acted improperly, they should express their concerns directly to the administrator responsible and try to come to a resolution in an orderly and civil manner."

Summary
On 5 September 2022 I contacted you in the talk page of Wikipedia talk:Requests for permissions requesting your review of the permission you granted to Protonk as a pending changes reviewer. Also requesting at least your admonition to said editor due to gross violation of the civility policy. Given your inappropriate response, brushing aside my complaint and even expressing support for the other editor, I feel compelled to complain and try to resolve the dispute with you hereby.

Context
The user Protonk criticized me in the Wikipedia:Requests for permissions/Pending changes reviewer thread, writing, "it is...worrisome that you have been here for as long as you have with as many edits as you have and you talk to people like this. I would not want to work with someone who behaved like this". Apparently they didn't like that I pointed out policies and guidelines regarding in my opinion baseless accusations against me by an adiministrator, in which I did not use any fool language at all and remained civil, although highly demoralized.

I posted in Protonk's talk page, seeking an explanation about their criticism directed at me. Ironically, Protonk, despite the aforementioned criticism towards me about how I was talking, decided to reply to me in this manner, "User:Thinker78, you came to my fucking talk page moaning about some shit ANOTHER editor said and accusing me of not understanding things and when I (only one in a line of too patient Wikipedians) tried to explain to you that your problem was you love to lecture other editors about shit you don't understand (policy, editing, logic, just to name a few) you demonstrated in the most obtuse way possible that you weren't interested in listening."

I was interested in listening, but I was trying to make a point that Protonk was in their own view of things, lecturing me, but at the same time criticized me for "lecturing" others. Then Protonk just asked me if it was a joke, and then I thought they were not interested in discussing things and was just wasting my time. I have to point out that Protonk did state previously that I was wasting someone else's time, so there shouldn't be an issue for me saying the same thing about them. I stated that Protonk was displaying poor analytical skills, which is my opinion based on my understanding that Protonk misunderstood issues that I could have explained at length if I was given the opportunity to, instead of first being dismissed as a prank and being told off by gross rudeness the level of which I have never done in Wikipedia.

For some reason, after bringing to your attention such rudeness and gross profanity, you, DanCherek, an administrator in Wikipedia, decided to instead rebuke me for unrelated issues. You also brushed aside said incivility and even showed support for the other editor.

My expectation
My expectation was simple enough. Simply to conduct a neutral review on your decision to grant a permission, due to such display of incivility. Or in any case, to admonish said editor for violating the civility policy, given that it was your decision to grant them advanced rights. One would expect an editor with advanced rights would have better standards of behavior, better judgment and cohesion in their arguments. It doesn't seem it is good judgment or good cohesion in arguments to be criticizing someone for "talk to people like this" for pointing out policies and guidelines while at the same time failing to behave with basic civility. It doesn't seem it is good judgment or good cohesion in arguments to be telling someone they wasted someone else's time and not understanding policies and guidelines, while at the same time snapping furiously when told a similar thing.

It would have sufficed at least a response reminding the other editor about the civility policy and that it is unacceptable such level of rudeness in Wikipedia. And thereon if you decided to, if you had any concerns about me you could have also reminded me of whatever it was your opinion that I was failing in. I did not expect such partiality and wanton disregard for the civility policy, which I consider worrisome, specially coming from an administrator. Thinker78 (talk) 04:55, 6 September 2022 (UTC)


 * Hi Thinker78, and thank you for your contributions to the project. I don't think that you have been inflating your edit count or pulling any pranks, and I can see why you are understandably upset if other editors suggest something to that effect. I know it never feels good when it feels like someone is minimizing your volunteer contributions and the time that you've put into something. With that being said: yes, temperatures were running a bit high in the exchange on Protonk's talk page, but my opinion was that it hadn't reached a point where administrative action was necessary, and certainly not for revoking their ability to review pending changes. If you aren't satisfied with my actions (or non-actions) here, you're absolutely welcome to bring them up for discussion at WP:ANI or WP:AARV – additional opinions are often helpful. DanCherek (talk) 12:12, 6 September 2022 (UTC)
 * Thank you Dan Cherek for your reply. I feel satisfied and mollified with what you told me. I certainly was very upset that after 20 years in the project and the only time I may have ever requested a permission I was treated with such contempt. But life is not fair, so I will just move on from this bitter experience and continue contributing with the project. Thanks again. Thinker78  (talk) 16:23, 6 September 2022 (UTC)
 * I appreciate your gracious response here! I apologize if my response to you yesterday at WT:PERM seemed dismissive. Thank for this message – which I was very happy to read – and best of luck. DanCherek (talk) 16:39, 6 September 2022 (UTC)

Are patents copyrightable?
From CopyPatrol, I found this diff which is word for word of this patent. Apparently, patents are not supposed to be subjected to copyright restrictions per Copyright on the content of patents and in the context of patent prosecution but it also said that there was no law that makes patents public domain by default. How should this be resolved? Thank you for your great work by the way. 0x Deadbeef 12:35, 7 September 2022 (UTC)


 * Hi 0xDeadbeef! Based on the USPTO Terms of Use (specifically the "Patent information" section), I think we can consider that text to be in the public domain, as I don't see specific exceptions in the patent that would indicate otherwise. Of course, attribution should be given even for PD text, either by clearly marking it as a quote or by using a template like PD-notice. I have done the latter, and condensed the material a little since I felt that the detail was a bit excessive. Thanks for helping out with copyright cleanup! DanCherek (talk) 14:14, 7 September 2022 (UTC)

About the copyright-infringing posts you deleted
I noticed that you deleted pages with the content directly copied from https://web.archive.org/web/20030828151027/http://faculty.washington.edu/xpchen/. I saw that it involved multiple users, so could they possibly be connected? Liliana (UwU / nya) 23:07, 7 September 2022 (UTC)


 * Yes, it's quite strange. I'm not completely certain what's going on, but it doesn't really seem like sockpuppetry to me... possibly either misguided new users or a weird spambot. Anyway, most of the pages are years-old and the users didn't really make edits outside of their own userspace, so not really an active concern, I'm just cleaning some of it up :) DanCherek (talk) 23:10, 7 September 2022 (UTC)


 * I have to ask about this, too. You cite copyright violations from this one page but all of these User pages are different and do not look like copyright violations to me. And it doesn't look like these pages were tagged for deletion. How did you find these pages? Are they listed somewhere as copyright violations? Because I don't think they are. Please double-check them and restore the ones that aren't copyright violation of this one archived page. We usually don't delete User pages just because they are old. Thanks. Liz Read! Talk! 23:26, 7 September 2022 (UTC)
 * Liz, I am certainly not deleting pages because they are old. I have no idea why you would say that. All of these pages contain text copied from https://web.archive.org/web/20030828151027/http://faculty.washington.edu/xpchen/, a website that dates back to 2003, long before the user pages were created. The website is neither in the public domain nor released under a compatibly free license, so any user page that copies from it is a violation of the copyright policy. DanCherek (talk) 23:28, 7 September 2022 (UTC)

A barnstar for you!

 * Thanks for your hard work as well! DanCherek (talk) 23:30, 7 September 2022 (UTC)

Concern regarding Draft:Nimrod (statue)
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Question from Dieulisson on Les vins skalli (03:22, 9 September 2022)
Comment pourrai- je Avoir un mentor? --Dieulisson (talk) 03:22, 9 September 2022 (UTC)


 * Hi, welcome to Wikipedia! It looks like I have been assigned as your mentor here, so if you need help with a specific part of editing, feel free to ask. Otherwise, check out my message on your talk page for some links that you may find useful! (Vous semblez être plus familier avec le français. Saviez-vous qu'il existe une Wikipédia en français? Vous préféreriez peut-être y contribuer. En tout cas, bienvenu au projet, et merci pour vos efforts! Si vous avez besoin de l'aide, n'hésitez pas à me contacter sur ma page de discussion.) DanCherek (talk) 03:31, 9 September 2022 (UTC)

City as the Artist's Subjectivity
Hi DanCherek, you deleted the article City as the Artist's Subjectivity. Section G12 of the criteria for speedy deletion... (https://www.bookarts.uwe.ac.uk/pdf/newspdfs/140.pdf). Yes. But this fragment of the publication is an abbreviated part of the article Город как субъективность художника from ru.wikipedia translated into English. There is no copyright infringement in this case. Please restore the article. Artcurator (talk) 12:10, 9 September 2022 (UTC)


 * I see some overlap in content, but here is a remaining question: the text in City as the Artist’s Subjectivity was a copy of this, and even if the PDF was translated from ruwiki, it doesn't appear to be a machine translation. So, it's a derivative work and the translation is also protected by copyright. Here's an example: the sentence The selection process was formulated to include masters from various generations and schools, each with differing artistic views, and at times dramatically different to one another. appears in both the deleted article and the PDF, but that sentence, with that specific wording, isn't apparent to me when I look at the ruwiki article. DanCherek (talk) 19:42, 9 September 2022 (UTC)
 * DanCherek, PDF is a translation of text from ruwiki for June 2021 (my text). Yes, you can find a compromise. Restore the article and remove the questionable text. And then complete the article. Artcurator (talk) 12:24, 10 September 2022 (UTC)
 * As the English translation in the PDF is copyright, the article should not be restored (all of the readable prose in the article was copied from the PDF), because we would also need verification that the translation is compatibly licensed, not just the original ruwiki text. If you would like me to restore some of the other content, like the list of museum collections and the bibliography, in your sandbox, I can do that. DanCherek (talk) 12:47, 10 September 2022 (UTC)
 * Well... Yes, do it. Thanks. Artcurator (talk) 13:15, 10 September 2022 (UTC)
 * Okay, it's at User:Artcurator/City as the Artist's Subjectivity. DanCherek (talk) 13:27, 10 September 2022 (UTC)
 * Fine. Artcurator (talk) 17:10, 10 September 2022 (UTC)

Deletion: Draft: Operation Eagle Eye
Thank you for deleting my draft! I didn't notice I copied my references. I am currently re-making it with no copyright. Thank you! Overthrow-dictator (talk) 10:59, 11 September 2022 (UTC)


 * Thanks for your understanding. DanCherek (talk) 11:43, 11 September 2022 (UTC)

Pull this user's talk page access
Hello. Will you please pull/remove User:66 amazing people's talk page access? Thanks, Magnatyrannus (talk &#124; contribs) 16:58, 11 September 2022 (UTC)


 * ✅ DanCherek (talk) 17:03, 11 September 2022 (UTC)
 * And decline the unblock request. Magnatyrannus (talk &#124; contribs) 17:05, 11 September 2022 (UTC)

Brahmastra
Some fans of this film deleting reviews which are criticized it's content. WP should be neautral? I have provided source and review in Talk page there. I suggest you to add it. Rock Stone Gold Castle (talk) 17:25, 12 September 2022 (UTC)


 * Thanks for your contributions to the article and its talk page. I personally am not familiar with the film so I will probably not get involved with adding content to that specific article. DanCherek (talk) 18:25, 12 September 2022 (UTC)

Deleted page
Hello,

"02:54, 6 September 2022 DanCherek  talk contribs deleted page Draft:Shop Raha (Raha) (Multiple reasons: speedy deletion criteria G11, G12. Source URL: https://www.zawya.com/en/press-release/companies-news/raha-new-tech-driven-e-commerce-platform-set-to-redefine-kuwaits-grocery-experience-bkci74rv)"

The press release was written internally (with me heading the department) and then sent for press releases. I have no issue re-writing the information and making sure to include any and all press releases I have the link to in citations, will that help? Regarding criteria G11, can you please clarify/help me understand how to avoid the page looking like "Unambiguous advertising or promotion" as I used a couple of published pages within the same vertical/industry as references.

Thank you, appreciate your help in advance! Nsalzayed (talk) 01:53, 13 September 2022 (UTC)


 * Hi, there are a few different issues here. Since you are attempting to write about your own company, you are required to provide the proper disclosure according to WP:COIDISCLOSEPAY. That typically means disclosing the relationship on your user page, and the template Paid can be used for this purpose – e.g. in the form: . Be sure to read the policies and guidelines on paid editing and conflicts of interest.Here at Wikipedia, we care about what reliable, sources have written about a given subject. It's by judging the extent of coverage in these reliable sources that we assess whether something is notable enough to have an article. By contrast, press releases are usually worthless in terms of notability and they also aren't reliable sources of information, as companies can write whatever they want in a press release. So even if it's written in your own words, basing an entire article on press releases is not going to be acceptable for a Wikipedia article, nor is using promotional wording like "an innovative homegrown concept".I did a quick search for sources on Shop Raha, and it doesn't seem like it's received  coverage in independent sources, just its own press releases and websites. Unfortunately, that likely means that it does not have the extent of coverage to warrant a Wikipedia article at this time. You're welcome to continue working on a draft, but I thought I'd just give you a heads up about that. DanCherek (talk) 02:11, 13 September 2022 (UTC)

Can you please Ban this user from Brahmastra Part One Page
The Wikipedia user Samrudhdavid has consistently vandalised the Budget section of the Brahmastra Part One (by repeatedly putting in incorrect and unverified information), so could you please prevent him from editing any further in this page? It would be awesome if you did that. Nt661974 (talk) 09:49, 14 September 2022 (UTC)


 * No, I'm not going to do that at this point. They made a change and cited it to IMDb, which isn't a reliable source, but their edit was consistent with what IMDb said, so I'm not seeing anything other than good faith here. They also haven't edited since your message to them on their talk page, so immediately asking for a partial block is premature and unwarranted. DanCherek (talk) 11:26, 14 September 2022 (UTC)

Question from Nizam Uddin Shawon on Amrita Lal Dey College (14:06, 14 September 2022)
How can I add a picture on Wikipedia? --Nizam Uddin Shawon (talk) 14:06, 14 September 2022 (UTC)


 * Hi, welcome to Wikipedia! If you are asking about how to upload an image, there is a detailed guide at Uploading images. Please keep in mind that unless you are specifically uploading a fair-use image that is the subject of commentary in an article, any images you upload need to either be in the public domain or released under a compatible license by the copyright holder. Let me know if you have additional questions. DanCherek (talk) 14:11, 14 September 2022 (UTC)

Forest Park Golf Course
Hi there. How did you figure out it was copied from that other page? Nothing came up in my copyvio checks.  Onel 5969  TT me 18:21, 13 September 2022 (UTC)


 * Hi, I saw this article in CopyPatrol (https://copypatrol.toolforge.org/en/?id=89931050), and clicking "iThenticate report" showed a match to the Forest Park (St. Louis) article. I definitely agree that if you were just looking at the newly created article without the benefit of CopyPatrol, it would be harder to detect. (By the way, in case you didn't already know, if you click on "Copyvio" under "Possible issues" in the curation toolbar, it will take you to the CopyPatrol report for that article and then you can see what the copyvio bot found.) DanCherek (talk) 18:25, 13 September 2022 (UTC)
 * Thank you. When you say curation toolbar, is that the NPP curation toolbar?  When I use that, the earwig report comes up, which is what I use, and it didn't show any copyright issues.  Do you prefer the CopyPatrol over the Earwig?  Thanks for your help.  Just trying to get better at catching stuff like this.  Onel 5969  TT me 20:11, 13 September 2022 (UTC)
 * Never mind, I figured out where that is. I never clicked on that link before.  I've done a few reviews, and can still learn something new.  I'll do both now.  Again, thanks. Onel 5969  TT me 20:14, 13 September 2022 (UTC)
 * No problem! CopyPatrol is good for seeing what the bot found, but you can't use it proactively on articles like you can with Earwig's detector, so they're kind of complementary and I regularly use both of them to see what comes up. DanCherek (talk) 20:35, 13 September 2022 (UTC)
 * As a follow up, I was doing NPP this morning, and came upon this article: Ihor Tantsyura, while Earwig did not show a copyvio, it said potential copyvio in the copypatrol tool. I clicked on it, and when it came up, near the top it said that you had already reviewed it.  Does that mean that if I see that, you've already taken a look at the copyvio report and determined their was no issue?  Onel 5969  TT me 13:53, 17 September 2022 (UTC)
 * Yep, I looked at that copyvio report back in May. The iThenticate report indicates that the overlap is limited to titles like "Deputy Commander of the Ground Forces of the Armed Forces of Ukraine", so I think this is okay from a copyright point of view. There's currently no way to remove the "Copyvio - This page may contain copyright violations." from the NPP curation toolbar, but never hurts to double check. Thanks for your work and feel free to follow up on any other reports at any time. DanCherek (talk) 14:43, 17 September 2022 (UTC)

On Calophyllum inophyllum article
Hi, Mr. Cherek. I appreciate the advice on copyright you wrote. I didn't know if I had copied too much from the Wild Singapore reference because I was worried about getting the species details wrong. I will try to be more careful and paraphrase with my own creative words next time. Again, thank you. 😊 🙏 -- Mat Kiyan (talk) 04:20, 17 September 2022 (UTC)


 * Thanks for your understanding! DanCherek (talk) 14:43, 17 September 2022 (UTC)

Requests for history merge
Hello,

Can you help me by explaining how to request a histmerge? I created a draft article Draft:Finalmente L'alba on September 2, 2022. 11 days later another Wikipedian by the name of User:Hildreth gazzard created the article Finalmente L’alba without realizing I’ve already created a draft article of the same name. I would like to request a histmerge please. Therefore, what do I need to do? The Film Creator (talk) 14:03, 17 September 2022 (UTC)

Please ignore this message. I have nominated the article for deletion. The Film Creator (talk) 14:43, 17 September 2022 (UTC)


 * Sounds good, . Just for future reference, I probably wouldn't have performed a history merge in this case, because it's generally used to repair attribution issues that result from a cut-and-paste move. In this case, it seems like the mainspace article was written from scratch. But on the other hand, if another editor had copied the contents of your draft and pasted it directly into mainspace, that would necessitate a histmerge. DanCherek (talk) 14:53, 17 September 2022 (UTC)
 * Thanks for the tip. The Film Creator (talk) 14:55, 17 September 2022 (UTC)

Question from Aaujifrash (09:22, 18 September 2022)
Hello Wikipedia --Aaujifrash (talk) 09:22, 18 September 2022 (UTC)


 * Hi. Please stop inserting your username and/or links to random images in various pages. Are you the same person who is operating the Premanidhi premanidhi account? DanCherek (talk) 11:49, 18 September 2022 (UTC)

Help
Hello. I have mostly edited articles related to semiconductors and I have come into contact with an irrational editor called Artem S. Tashkinov. I fixed a factually incorrect assertion on the 7 nm process page that asserted that the Intel 7 process is 7 nm, when in reality, it is 10 nm and I provided sources explicitly stating it. Intel 4 is actually a 7 nm process but this editor keeps undoing it while providing no sources to support their claims. On their talk page, I provided them an extensive list of sources with quotes but they refuse to accept it. What should I do? Thanks. LeaveMeB (talk) 17:14, 18 September 2022 (UTC)


 * First of all, stop saying things like "Cope all you want", that is not helpful at all and does nothing to resolve this dispute. If discussion with the other editor isn't working out, please consider methods for dispute resolution, such as requesting a third opinion, filing at the dispute resolution noticeboard, or posting at a related WikiProject. Unfortunately, I'm not going to get very involved in this specific dispute as I don't have time to click through all of those sources, sorry. DanCherek (talk) 19:28, 18 September 2022 (UTC)

Thanks
Thanks for the ping to ANI. I did not have anything to add, but I appreciate the notice. Bruxton (talk) 23:41, 18 September 2022 (UTC)


 * Sounds good, and thanks for all you do around the project. DanCherek (talk) 23:43, 18 September 2022 (UTC)

Question from DavidTanCreti on User:DavidTanCreti (05:35, 20 September 2022)
Greetings DanCherek, As a new editor, I made an error in the file name of a photo file I uploaded. It would be helpful to have this name corrected. Since it was uploaded recently it is likely to have had little or no use. The reason for the file name request is shown on the file's page. https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Edward_Eaton_Mason_reflecting_at_San_Francisco_Bay_Bridge_2011.jpg Thank you for your offer to mentor. Best Wishes. --ParaDocs (talk) 05:35, 20 September 2022 (UTC)


 * It looks like a file mover at Commons has since moved the file name to the requested one. Let me know if you have any other questions about editing! DanCherek (talk) 11:46, 20 September 2022 (UTC)

Your GA nomination of Going Down Home with Daddy
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Help
I ask you to take back Nadaa AL-Qalaa an edit to edit the article and I will do what is necessary to avoid mistakes Osman Mustafa Osman (talk) 02:33, 23 September 2022 (UTC)


 * All of the text in Nadaa Al-Qalaa was copied from this website: . DanCherek (talk) 04:12, 23 September 2022 (UTC)

October 2022 New Pages Patrol backlog drive
(t &#183; c)  buidhe  21:16, 23 September 2022 (UTC)

Your GA nomination of Creekfinding
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Your GA nomination of Going Down Home with Daddy
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My error
That was my error with citing, my apologies. 142.167.135.137 (talk) 01:31, 25 September 2022 (UTC)


 * OK, thanks for the note. DanCherek (talk) 01:32, 25 September 2022 (UTC)

September music
1 September: I remember the Vespro della Beata Vergine, 2 September: the last of the Rheingau Musik Festival concerts, and today we can read The Story of Mr Sommer, and follow Ruth Lapide. -- Gerda Arendt (talk) 22:10, 4 September 2022 (UTC)


 * Speaking of music... when should we expect a new music article from Dan? :) Chaconne in G minor was such a treat...  Aza24  (talk)   23:23, 4 September 2022 (UTC)
 * :) That was one of my favorite articles to work on. Here are ones I'm eyeing:
 * Carmen Fantasy (Sarasate) (I did the fun parts in my sandbox!)
 * Liebestod
 * Violin Concerto No. 1 (Paganini)
 * Plus probably one or two more that I'm forgetting! In the meantime my short-term project is to continue/finish working on Tristram and Iseult, though. I'm planning to sign up for the WikiCup for the first time when it rolls around next year, hoping that will be a good content motivator for me as well! DanCherek (talk) 00:15, 5 September 2022 (UTC)
 * All three are remarkable choices, though I am impartial to Liebestod, or really anything from that Wagner opera. In addition to the poem you mention (which seems to be turning out great), I see you've worked on a few other Tristan and Isolde related articles!—Perhaps you and I can tackle the rather awful Tristan und Isolde article in the future...   Aza24  (talk)   06:14, 5 September 2022 (UTC)
 * Yes please! I'd love to. That article and Tristan and Iseult are my white whales. DanCherek (talk) 12:38, 5 September 2022 (UTC)
 * Oh, Butterfly Lovers' Violin Concerto! DanCherek (talk) 03:11, 6 September 2022 (UTC)
 * I've always preferred the Yellow River Piano Concerto, but everyone I know disagrees with me :)  Aza24  (talk)   22:05, 8 September 2022 (UTC)
 * I read your plot summary of The Story of Mr Sommer, it sounds really interesting... in a menacing kind of way. A children's tale for adults indeed. DanCherek (talk) 03:15, 5 September 2022 (UTC)
 * I only wanted to find out why Sempé illustrated the book. Did you know hat I wrote Der Kontrabaß? Because may brother played it, one of two actors (I know) who play the instrument, Walter Renneisen the other. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 20:48, 5 September 2022 (UTC)
 * I don't know anything about Süskind but he seems like a fascinating fellow. DanCherek (talk) 02:01, 6 September 2022 (UTC)
 * agree - a rainbow pic today, and a deer yesterday (but hard to see) - Jubilate Deo --Gerda Arendt (talk) 21:37, 8 September 2022 (UTC)
 * Found it!! DanCherek (talk) 03:37, 9 September 2022 (UTC)
 * Good eyes! - I tried my luck with lilypond and can't figure out how to position the music to follow the text. User:Gerda Arendt/Lilypond. On the Main page for a few more minutes. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 11:15, 14 September 2022 (UTC)
 * Gerda, is this what you're looking for? DanCherek (talk) 11:19, 14 September 2022 (UTC)
 * This seemed to produce better spacing, after some experimentation. DanCherek (talk) 11:35, 14 September 2022 (UTC)
 * yes, thank you! I wonder if it would work to add the second choir, beginning the same thing in measure 2, the first repeats, and so does the second. For listening, it would be great to have the second choir a bit softer. I', too hungry to try ;) --Gerda Arendt (talk) 11:56, 14 September 2022 (UTC)
 * Something like User:Gerda Arendt/Lilypond? DanCherek (talk) 12:18, 14 September 2022 (UTC)
 * How sweet to return from lunch and you did it!! - Next step: I'll translate it to German. Did you notice my Sep 11 music, with two wonderful places pictured? More later. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 13:15, 14 September 2022 (UTC)

The rose pic was taken on 11 Sep 2021, and this year was full of music that day, Tag des offenen Denkmals, not only singing in church and rehearsals for Verdi's Requiem, but two concerts at special places pictured, one a synagogue (pictured on its wall). Today three DYK: a piece we'll perform on Sunday /thank you for the music!), a violinist we heard in June playing the Berg Concerto (with my brother in the orchestra), and a Youth Orchestra shaped by a conductor who recently died. Almost too much of a good thing. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 14:13, 14 September 2022 (UTC)


 * Awesome! The synagogue looks really cool. I have been (slowly) working on User:DanCherek/La ronde des lutins. Lilypond is unsurprisingly easier when you're not dealing with eight voices at once... DanCherek (talk) 14:17, 14 September 2022 (UTC)
 * Thank you! - Today, we sang with Baroque brass which was just great! (pic on my talk.) I struggle with the lilypond:


 * Soprano and alto are fine for the notes. The text: Kyrie one syllable per note, but "e" should have 2 notes and "lei" also 2 (in the alto, let's ignore that for the soprano it's 3 + 1). No idea what I do wrong for the bass clef. Same beginning notes as for Prayer for Ukraine. Is it the key? At present the bass is good for the first note, then an octave too low, and the last note should be octave below the first. The tenor is an octave too low, all of it. Help? --Gerda Arendt (talk) 17:00, 18 September 2022 (UTC)
 * How's this? DanCherek (talk) 17:25, 18 September 2022 (UTC)
 * Perfect, thank you! - Today, we sang that and other old music for two choirs at church, pictured, scroll to the image of the organ of the month of the Diocese of Limburg (my perspective), and if you have time, watch the video about it --Gerda Arendt (talk) 18:57, 18 September 2022 (UTC)
 * For the sound of above, can we hear the same notes with a little bit of detachment? - because now I hear one note instead of three --Gerda Arendt (talk) 20:48, 18 September 2022 (UTC)
 * I will have a try, but this is one that I'm not sure about. DanCherek (talk) 23:43, 18 September 2022 (UTC)
 * DYK that today I wrote an article about music premiered today, Like as the hart. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 13:38, 19 September 2022 (UTC)
 * Next lilypond q:

I want a slur from the first note to the second, and from the third to the fourth. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 16:37, 19 September 2022 (UTC)
 * Try that. DanCherek (talk) 16:39, 19 September 2022 (UTC)
 * thank you! - travel and strings sound --Gerda Arendt (talk) 13:49, 26 September 2022 (UTC)
 * All the Lilypond talk recently has made me realize that your name is a string of musical notes in itself, if you count the "r" as a rest (as Lilypond does).
 * How's that for a motif? DanCherek (talk) 14:38, 27 September 2022 (UTC)
 * I'll tell Graham. He actually composed a piece using just my initials. He did something similar for his mother, and she said mine was more beautiful. But now, on publication (on his birthday), he's going to dedicate his Sextet to her ;) - The rest of this talk will appear grey in edit more, probably due to a lilypond markup. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 14:46, 27 September 2022 (UTC)
 * That's so cool! (I'm not sure what you mean by appearing grey though...) DanCherek (talk) 14:48, 27 September 2022 (UTC)
 * In edit mode, I have colour markings (maybe a feature you have to install, I forgot): normal writing white, refs pink, comments green, links blue, headers and italics grey. Some apostrophes - of the c to be precise - make it all grey, all that follows, but I don't know what to do about it. I can just type 2 apostrophes, , yes, that did it, if no other solution. However, now all is pink for the score sound that wasn't closed ... --Gerda Arendt (talk) 15:02, 27 September 2022 (UTC)
 * Also, now the colour grey was gone, but real italics began ... --Gerda Arendt (talk) 15:04, 27 September 2022 (UTC)
 * Oh, maybe something Linter-related, but no idea. The syntax highlighter is fine for me but I know there's multiple versions of that. DanCherek (talk) 20:40, 27 September 2022 (UTC)
 * Oh, maybe something Linter-related, but no idea. The syntax highlighter is fine for me but I know there's multiple versions of that. DanCherek (talk) 20:40, 27 September 2022 (UTC)

The Strange
Hi, I've noticed that you blocked most socks of the Wikipedia bandit, and I'm very thankful for it. However, one of the pages I reverted, The Strange, couldn't be restored to its original state due to a Kickstarter link, and such link is on the blacklist. Since it fit the article, would you be kind enough to put it back? Thanks in advance. Liliana UwU (talk / contribs) 06:21, 29 September 2022 (UTC)


 * Are administrators able to bypass the spam blacklist? It won't let me save the edit either. DanCherek (talk) 06:25, 29 September 2022 (UTC)
 * I assumed that would be the case, but I guess it isn't. Dang. Liliana UwU  (talk / contribs) 06:26, 29 September 2022 (UTC)
 * Trimmed slightly, added a different ref. DanCherek (talk) 06:30, 29 September 2022 (UTC)
 * Thank you. Liliana UwU  (talk / contribs) 06:36, 29 September 2022 (UTC)

Women in Red October 2022
--Lajmmoore (talk) 14:58, 29 September 2022 (UTC) via MassMessaging

On your deleting of edit
Ridyah section was not based on indpendent research. It was OBJECTIVE based in REAL valid sources that stand up to wikipedia reliability standards NOT ORIGINAL research. YOu made a MISTAKE in deleting it. — Preceding unsigned comment added by FriendOfGodChen (talk • contribs) 22:58, 30 September 2022 (UTC)


 * I stand by the removal. It was awkwardly written, appeared to pass judgment in a non-neutral point of view, contained excessively long quotes from non-free sources, and large swathes were, in fact, original research ("Thus it stands to reason..."). Please use the talk page to seek consensus for its addition instead of continuing to directly re-add it to the article. DanCherek (talk) 23:02, 30 September 2022 (UTC)
 * You call "Large swathes" one phrase? Wake up FriendOfGodChen (talk) 23:04, 30 September 2022 (UTC)
 * You are NOT a truthseeker. FriendOfGodChen (talk) 23:04, 30 September 2022 (UTC)
 * It is in fact YOU who is NOT objective. It is NOT a non-neutral judgment this are LITERAL ACCOUNTS from magaines like the ATlantic which is up to Wikipedia standards. You call ONE PHRASE "thus is stands to reason" large swathes... c'mon wake up. FriendOfGodChen (talk) 23:05, 30 September 2022 (UTC)
 * Please use the talk page of the article if you would like to discuss this matter further. DanCherek (talk) 23:06, 30 September 2022 (UTC)
 * You start it up and I'll explain.
 * The burden of proof is on YOU cause I already did provide objective sources and a non-neutral view. YOu start the page FriendOfGodChen (talk) 23:07, 30 September 2022 (UTC)
 * If you start the TALK Page i'll write defending the edit. FriendOfGodChen (talk) 23:08, 30 September 2022 (UTC)
 * after the "thus it stands to reason" it was backed up by the Atlantic which re-affirmed the same thing and I included TWO . ARe you honestly trying to say that they ONLY had gay sex in america but weren't doing it in SAUDI AMERICA? ARE YOU JOKING?????
 * It's like I prove to you math 1+1=2 and then you call LOGIC unobjective. You're FALSE. FriendOfGodChen (talk) 23:07, 30 September 2022 (UTC)
 * Watch this before you call me NONNEUTRAL or BIASED again:
 * https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MQ8PSKSWeEw&t=168s FriendOfGodChen (talk) 23:12, 30 September 2022 (UTC)

Administrators' newsletter – October 2022
News and updates for administrators from the past month (September 2022).

Administrator changes
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 * Gnome-colors-view-refresh.svg Staxringold
 * Gnome-colors-list-remove.svg Ahoerstemeier (deceased) • Ched

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CheckUser changes
 * Gnome-colors-list-remove.svg GorillaWarfare

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 * Following an RfC, consensus was found that if the rationale for a block depends on information that is not available to all administrators, that information should be sent to the Arbitration Committee, a checkuser or an oversighter for action (as applicable, per ArbCom's recent updated guidance) instead of the administrator making the block.
 * Following an RfC, consensus has been found that, in the context of politics and science, the reliability of FoxNews.com is unclear and that additional considerations apply to its use.
 * Community comment on the revised Universal Code of Conduct enforcement guidelines is requested until 8 October.

Technical news
 * The Articles for creation helper script now automatically recognises administrator accounts which means your name does not need to be listed at WP:AFCP to help out. If you wish to help out at AFC, enable AFCH by navigating to and checking the "Yet Another AfC Helper Script" box.

Arbitration
 * Remedy 8.1 of the Muhammad images case will be rescinded 1 November following a motion.
 * A modification to the deletion RfC remedy in the Conduct in deletion-related editing case has been made to reaffirm the independence of the RfC and allow the moderators to split the RfC in two.
 * The second phase of the 2021-22 Discretionary Sanctions Review closes 3 October.

Miscellaneous
 * An administrator's account was recently compromised. Administrators are encouraged to check that their passwords are secure, and reminded that ArbCom reserves the right to not restore adminship in cases of poor account security. You can also use two-factor authentication (2FA) to provide an extra level of security.
 * Self-nominations for the electoral commission for the 2022 Arbitration Committee elections open 2 October and close 8 October.
 * You are invited to comment on candidates in the 2022 CUOS appointments process.
 * An RfC is open to discuss whether to make Vector 2022 the default skin on desktop.
 * Tech tip: You can do a fuzzy search of all deleted page titles at Special:Undelete.

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Your GA nomination of Creekfinding
The article Creekfinding you nominated as a good article has passed ; see Talk:Creekfinding for comments about the article. Well done! If the article has not already appeared on the main page as a "Did you know" item, or as a bold link under "In the News" or in the "On This Day" prose section, you can nominate it within the next seven days to appear in DYK. Bolded names with dates listed at the bottom of the "On This Day" column do not affect DYK eligibility. Message delivered by Legobot, on behalf of BennyOnTheLoose -- BennyOnTheLoose (talk) 19:41, 1 October 2022 (UTC)

Question from MAhIRTiwari (03:22, 3 October 2022)
Hey mentor, i have a question......how do I write an article on Wikipedia that can be published publically --MAhIRTiwari (talk) 03:22, 3 October 2022 (UTC)


 * Hi . You can read WP:YFA for a detailed guide on how to create your first article. It will take you through the steps to create a draft that can be submitted for review. Important things to keep in mind are that the article's topic should be notable. This generally means that it has already been covered in detail in good references from independent sources. If you have a connection with the subject of your draft, you will need to provide a required disclosure – see the conflict of interest guideline for more information about that.Writing an article from scratch can be really tough for new editors, so if you are finding it challenging, I would actually encourage you to edit existing articles for a while to get the hang of things. Let me know if you have additional questions or need more detailed guidance! DanCherek (talk) 16:11, 3 October 2022 (UTC)

NPP newsletter
The next newsletter is ready. If you have time, please do a c/e review. Also, any comment on the length. keeps telling me it is way too long. No one else has mentioned that. It can be read in 1-2 minutes. There is nothing important we are trying to communicate here, so I think it will be read by people who are interested in staying abreast on NPP and skipped by others, regardless of if it's this length or a lot shorter. I could have cut out the examples of bug fixes, but didn't want to slight the people that did them (and wrote that paragraph). <b style="color:#034503">MB</b> 01:26, 5 October 2022 (UTC)


 * , I gave it a quick copyedit. Additionally, if you'd like to see how I would have trimmed it further, see this version. (I have self-reverted that edit to preserve your original layout and content; you can pick the version you like.) DanCherek (talk) 02:31, 5 October 2022 (UTC)
 * Actually, Kudpung edited after I was done (with a revert 'if you want' edit summary), then you did a c/e on his version. Now I am really frustrated! I was going to send this tonight, now I need to make a new version with perhaps some of his changes and then yours too.
 * The shortened version is more like the Admin newsletter style, which I don't find friendly or conversational. It feels to me more like code to be interpreted by a computer. <b style="color:#034503">MB</b> 02:46, 5 October 2022 (UTC)
 * Sorry, didn't notice which version I started with. DanCherek (talk) 02:50, 5 October 2022 (UTC)

On Deleting the Federal Character Article
Hi, I noticed you deleted the article I recently uploaded and I can see why. Thank you. The necessary changes will be made for it to be readded. Nues007 (talk) 04:18, 6 October 2022 (UTC)


 * Thanks for the note. Additionally, if you have a connection with the subject of your draft, you will need to provide a required disclosure – see the conflict of interest guideline for more information about that. DanCherek (talk) 17:32, 6 October 2022 (UTC)

Question from IranianWomenRevolution (21:10, 8 October 2022)
I have recently joined Wikipedia since there are a series of revolutionary protest happening in Iran that is led by women, so I wanted to be able to add missing pages. I started with one that related to the hijab protest but it was flagged as a conflict of interest risk. What can I do to avoid seeming someone like that? I am a sole contributor and not registered with any political party or such. I'm just trying to help documenting current historical changes. Thanks --IranianWomenRevolution (talk) 21:10, 8 October 2022 (UTC)


 * Hi, it looks like the article in question has been restored for now. But I have to mention, it seems a little more than coincidental that the redirect has existed for almost five year, and then two new accounts show up on the same day to add an article in its place. Do you have any connection with ? DanCherek (talk) 04:53, 9 October 2022 (UTC)

Q: Azerbaijanis in Armenia
Hi, just curious to know according to what you deleting/merging Azerbaijanis in Armenia article? Thanks! A b r v a g l (<b style="font-family:Segoe print; color:#d43134">PingMe</b>) 04:46, 9 October 2022 (UTC)


 * Hi ! I performed a history merge, because it turns out that back in 2011, someone did a cut-and-paste move – that means they manually deleted all of the text in Turkic people in Armenia (which is now a redirect) and pasted it into the Azerbaijanis in Armenia page. That leads to attribution issues, so a history merge moves all of the old edits into the current page so that anyone looking at the history can see the original contributors. Longer explanation: because Azerbaijanis in Armenia previously existed as a redirect, those redirect revisions need to be cleared away before the software allows the history merge to be performed. So I took a few standard steps for preparing the history merge – I temporarily deleted the page, restored all the revisions except the early redirect ones, and then completed the merge. I know that's a lot of explanations, but let me know if you have any questions! Nothing in the article has actually been changed by this, except that the old revisions have been appended to the page history. DanCherek (talk) 04:50, 9 October 2022 (UTC)
 * I think I understood what you did, basically someone merged articles not as it should be, and you fixing that. Thanks for explanation! A b r v a g l (<b style="font-family:Segoe print; color:#d43134">PingMe</b>) 04:55, 9 October 2022 (UTC)
 * Yep, exactly DanCherek (talk) 04:55, 9 October 2022 (UTC)

Histmerge request for talk page
Hi DanCherek, thanks for histmerging Turkic people in Armenia into Azerbaijanis in Armenia. Can you please also histmerge their talk pages? Thankfully, all conversations at the former talk page stopped, when conversations at the latter started. So, I've just copy-pasted the existing sections to the top of the current talk page, and moved its archives to preserve historical context. Thanks! &#8212;CX Zoom[he/him] (let's talk • {C•X}) 06:28, 9 October 2022 (UTC)


 * Done, I think. DanCherek (talk) 06:35, 9 October 2022 (UTC)
 * Just saw it. Thank you very much! &#8212;CX Zoom[he/him] (let's talk • {C•X}) 06:37, 9 October 2022 (UTC)

Question from Znoor22 (10:57, 14 October 2022)
can i post --Znoor22 (talk) 10:57, 14 October 2022 (UTC)


 * Hi, I'm not sure what you mean. Are you having issues with editing? DanCherek (talk) 17:47, 18 October 2022 (UTC)

Question from Lois Commondenominator (00:11, 20 October 2022)
Hi Dan - my article about my 1990'z zine Dragazine Magazine was not accepted. Can you help me to understand what is missing or what I can improve? --Lois Commondenominator (talk) 00:11, 20 October 2022 (UTC)


 * Hi, welcome to Wikipedia. There are several issues here. The first thing that jumps out at me is that the draft does not contain any references at all. These are important for any Wikipedia article for several reasons. Statements should generally be cited to reliable, independent sources. This is important because our goal here is to summarize information from other sources. Coverage in reliable, independent secondary sources is also the metric by which notability is generally evaluated on Wikipedia. If something hasn't received that level of coverage, then it typically doesn't merit its own article.Since you appear to have a connection with the subject of your draft, you should also provide the relevant disclosure – see the conflict of interest guideline for more information about that. DanCherek (talk) 06:19, 20 October 2022 (UTC)

New Page Patrol newsletter October 2022
Hello , Much has happened since the last newsletter over two months ago. The open letter finished with 444 signatures. The letter was sent to several dozen people at the WMF, and we have heard that it is being discussed but there has been no official reply. A related article appears in the current issue of The Signpost. If you haven't seen it, you should, including the readers' comment section.

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Creating an artist article in sandbox
I’m glad you give me the time to contact you and the wiki team, please wiki team editors I’m having hard time creating my first articles on Wikipedia please I really need your help. Thanks hope y’all doing well, stay safe and peace. Youngkings211 (talk) 20:27, 24 October 2022 (UTC)


 * When creating an article, it's important to summarize information from reliable, independent sources in your own words, rather than copying text from other websites. DanCherek (talk) 22:19, 25 October 2022 (UTC)

Women in Red November 2022
--Lajmmoore (talk) 17:32, 26 October 2022 (UTC) via MassMessaging

Thank you
Thank you, but I would appreciate if you don't go and "check" every single thing I edit going forward. MelanieCongdon (talk) 14:33, 28 October 2022 (UTC)


 * Never planned to, but it's standard practice – and makes sense – that if a copyright violation is found, then a cursory check of previous contributions should be done, and there in fact was another instance found in this case. DanCherek (talk) 14:43, 28 October 2022 (UTC)

About my article Contingent Share (deleted)
I have put many references and also I have taken information from all other websites too not copied obviously, the information i have put is common and taken from Ind AS 33 Earning Per Share an Indian accounting standard and I also trying to put more information in that, please help me for this *Contest this speedy deletion* i want to contest Het666 (talk) 18:10, 28 October 2022 (UTC)


 * I've double-checked this deletion and sorry, I can't restore it as it was almost entirely copied from Investopedia. You may recreate the page but please be sure to summarize information from reliable sources in your own words rather than copying from other websites. DanCherek (talk) 19:04, 28 October 2022 (UTC)

User:YeIsExposingTheLiarsWhoAbuseUs
Thank you for blocking User:YeIsExposingTheLiarsWhoAbuseUs! I just wanted to note that that user is a likely sock of User:GodIsOnOurSideYeSpeakMoreTruth (suspected due to their extremely similar edit type and usernames). ~ <b style="color:#f7eda1;background-color:#364add;padding:2q;border-radius:3q">Eejit43</b> (talk) 01:42, 31 October 2022 (UTC)


 * Yeah, there's been a whole bunch of similar accounts that have been blocked in the past day or two. Thanks for reporting. No need to give talk page warnings if you spot them again, just report to AIV straight away. DanCherek (talk) 01:44, 31 October 2022 (UTC)
 * Good to know, thank you! ~ <b style="color:#f7eda1;background-color:#364add;padding:2q;border-radius:3q">Eejit43</b> (talk) 01:46, 31 October 2022 (UTC)
 * Well, they could be a sock of anyone really, and we aren't completely sure if they're the sock master or not. Magnatyrannus (talk &#124; contribs) 01:44, 31 October 2022 (UTC)

Thanks
Thanks for leaving a message and helping me out, I really needed it after messing up my batch redirects and created too many, leading to some needing to be deleted-- which you so kindly helped me with...

Again, thank you! BhamBoi (talk) 05:21, 31 October 2022 (UTC)


 * Happy to help! DanCherek (talk) 05:22, 31 October 2022 (UTC)

October music

 * Thank you for another good one! -Today we sang the choral concert of the year, Verdi's Requiem with an interesting band of marimba, piano, horn, bass, timpani and drum (pictured). - Seeing a pic I took on the Main felt good. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 21:13, 3 October 2022 (UTC)


 * I remember that – I'm glad it made it! DanCherek (talk) 22:51, 3 October 2022 (UTC)
 * Second attempt. Stubborn as I am, I'd have tried a third time, but happy I can do something else, such as write about yesterday's soprano. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 10:10, 4 October 2022 (UTC)
 * Oh, did you sing Verdi's Dies irae? An absolute banger. DanCherek (talk) 22:21, 4 October 2022 (UTC)
 * He invented it as part of the Libera me, which still resonates in my mind. But best was the two women soloists singing Agnus Dei just by themselves, and so in unity!! --Gerda Arendt (talk) 20:38, 9 October 2022 (UTC)
 * look! (not by me) --Gerda Arendt (talk) 22:11, 12 October 2022 (UTC)
 * look again, at power work tensions (if you translate) --Gerda Arendt (talk) 11:39, 13 October 2022 (UTC)
 * Thanks for the links! Greetings from Venice, and apologies if my responses are more delayed over the next week and a half while I'm traveling :) DanCherek (talk) 13:03, 13 October 2022 (UTC)
 * Enjoy Venice if you are still there. I remember visiting the Frari, and two organists prepared for a recording of Renaissance music on those two organs facing each other, - an unplanned gift! - today's DYK: two facts from the two concert of this years Rheingau Musik Festival I liked best, both a cappella singing. If you follow the songs, you see a circus, where I performed singing, and in the end the whole tent joined for Dona nobis pacem. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 20:06, 19 October 2022 (UTC)
 * Thanks! Enjoyed Venice, then went to Florence and got a lot of inspiration for articles I want to write, and now in Rome for a few more days before I return. DanCherek (talk) 21:16, 19 October 2022 (UTC)
 * Sounds great! - who shall separate us? - Bach cantata up for tomorrow --Gerda Arendt (talk) 14:38, 22 October 2022 (UTC)
 * TFA! Great job! DanCherek (talk) 18:19, 23 October 2022 (UTC)
 * thank you! - spa wellness: last day of the cantata, and two great musicians who died --Gerda Arendt (talk) 21:44, 26 October 2022 (UTC)
 * Interesting articles! Scrolling back through some of the photos – the flammkuchen looks awesome, as does the duck curry and the gnocchi. P.S. I like the enlarged "October songs" image DanCherek (talk) 22:55, 26 October 2022 (UTC)
 * today a woman in red, cellist Ella van Poucke, with a video in the article --Gerda Arendt (talk) 18:25, 28 October 2022 (UTC)
 * ... followed by the new hall where she played - I always like to see my pics on the Main page, - then the mezzo of our Verdi concert, finally don't miss Hannah Pick-Goslar, - met a cat today, pictured --Gerda Arendt (talk) 20:48, 30 October 2022 (UTC)
 * I was pleased to see the image on the Main Page as well! Hannah Pick-Goslar is so interesting, great job. DanCherek (talk) 22:56, 30 October 2022 (UTC)
 * leaving the month with reformation and a cat treat --Gerda Arendt (talk) 16:51, 31 October 2022 (UTC)
 * – DanCherek (talk) 17:55, 31 October 2022 (UTC)

Administrators' newsletter – November 2022
News and updates for administrators from the past month (October 2022).

Administrator changes
 * Gnome-colors-list-add.svg Isabelle Belato · Whpq
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Oversight changes
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Guideline and policy news
 * The article creation at scale RfC opened on 3 October and will be open until at least 2 November.
 * An RfC is open to discuss having open requests for adminship automatically placed on hold after the seven-day period has elapsed, pending closure or other action by a bureaucrat.

Arbitration
 * Eligible editors are invited to self-nominate themselves from 13 November 2022 until 22 November 2022 to stand in the 2022 Arbitration Committee elections.
 * The arbitration case request titled Athaenara has been resolved by motion.
 * The arbitration case Reversal and reinstatement of Athaenara's block has entered the proposed decision stage.
 * , and  have been appointed to the Electoral Commission for the 2022 Arbitration Committee Elections.  and  are reserve commissioners.

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 * The 2022 CheckUser and Oversight appointments process has concluded with the appointment of two new CheckUsers.
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Respectfully
I was midway through writing an article (not vandalising) could I get my page back please I need answers Daniel IStoleThisUsername (talk) 21:43, 1 November 2022 (UTC)


 * No, it was pure vandalism, and if you continue that behavior you will likely be blocked. DanCherek (talk) 21:47, 1 November 2022 (UTC)
 * vandalism only applies to editing other peoples pages, that was an article made and edited by one person that is not impacting or obstructing anything on Wikipedia IStoleThisUsername (talk) 21:55, 1 November 2022 (UTC)
 * Hoax material has no place on Wikipedia, whether it be article, draft or userspace. Move on as your edits at this point are indistinguishable from trolling.-- Ponyo bons mots 22:02, 1 November 2022 (UTC)

Question from CheyenneDeBolt (12:44, 2 November 2022)
Hello, I am coming up on three months of submitting an article on Shelem. I understand it can take 3 or more months for a review. Could you take a look and let me know if there's any issues with the article? Thank you. --CheyenneDeBolt (talk) 12:44, 2 November 2022 (UTC)


 * I think the sourcing is still on the light side. The good news about the AFC review queue is that while drafts are not reviewed in any particular order, some reviewers like to prioritize the oldest ones in the queue, so with the exception of two drafts that have been waiting for four months, yours should hopefully be reviewed in the near future. DanCherek (talk) 20:59, 2 November 2022 (UTC)

Question from Shahadat Hossain Rashed (04:35, 3 November 2022)
How to add electronic publish? or how to add text over text? --Shahadat Hossain Rashed (talk) 04:35, 3 November 2022 (UTC)


 * Hi, I'm not sure what you mean. Are you having issues with editing? P.S. I've posted a welcome message on your talk page with some helpful links for you as you get started. DanCherek (talk) 05:09, 3 November 2022 (UTC)

Question from Hasandhrubo603 on User:Hasandhrubo603 (18:08, 5 November 2022)
How to add my wiki page in Google?? --Hasandhrubo603 (talk) 18:08, 5 November 2022 (UTC)


 * User pages on the English Wikipedia are "noindexed" which means that they typically don't appear in search engine results. This is by design as they are not meant to be articles, and there is no reason for them to appear in Google. If you are looking to promote yourself in Google search results, Wikipedia is not the place for that. DanCherek (talk) 21:07, 5 November 2022 (UTC)

Deleted Page
I would like to add new article about deleted Page called Kenny Sol Pfomma (talk) 07:29, 11 November 2022 (UTC)


 * If you recreate it, please be sure to write it in your own words, rather than copying text from other websites to Wikipedia. DanCherek (talk) 14:02, 11 November 2022 (UTC)

Author of two books on Bhagavad Gita

 * Dear Dan,
 * I do not understand your point. I am an author of two books on Bhagavad Gita for which the copyrights are vested in me. How do I violate copyrights when copyrights of the content are with me as an author?
 * I am providing you with the links to my books and you can read the contents of the sample pages of the books by clicking on 'Look inside feature' on Amazon and you can read and see the copyrights page.
 * Book: Word of God Bhagavad Gita: author Ajay Gupta Copyright © Ajay Gupta
 * https://www.amazon.com/Word-Bhagavad-Gita-Ajay-Gupta-ebook/dp/B06XZ6GQXJ/ref=tmm_kin_swatch_0?_encoding=UTF8&dpID=51gOVvfWCOL&dpSrc=detail&preST=_SY445_QL70_&qid=1460722631&sr=8-1
 * Book: God Speaks in Bhagavad Gita: For Young and Old: author Ajay Gupta © Ajay Gupta
 * https://www.amazon.com/God-Speaks-Bhagavad-Gita-Enchanting-ebook/dp/B07965F332/ref=tmm_kin_swatch_0?_encoding=UTF8&qid=1626175808&sr=8-1
 * You may please reconcile and restore the pages. I can send you a copy of my books at enclosure by email to you, if you so desire. Please give me your email id.
 * Regards,
 * Ajay Gupta
 * Commander Ajay Gupta (Indian Navy) (talk) 17:33, 12 November 2022 (UTC)
 * Hi. Thanks, but I don't need any copies of your books. You should not be adding that kind of material about yourself or your books to Wikipedia articles anyway – see our conflict of interest (COI) guidelines for more information about that. If you think there is relevant information related to these that should be included, please declare your COI and make an edit request on the article's talk page. While you go through the process for verifying that you are the copyright owner, it doesn't resolve the primary COI issue anyway, so it's likely not worth it. DanCherek (talk) 17:51, 12 November 2022 (UTC)

My edit on noticeboard
So you know I've got no problem with this. I should have edited the latest and not the rejected screen following edit conflict. My bad. Thanks. --Coldtrack (talk) 23:49, 12 November 2022 (UTC)


 * Yep, figured that was the case. Thanks DanCherek (talk) 23:50, 12 November 2022 (UTC)

Question from ALGORYTHMC (18:42, 14 November 2022)
how to create an artist page --ALGORYTHMC (talk) 18:42, 14 November 2022 (UTC)


 * Hi . You can read WP:YFA for a detailed guide on how to create your first article. It will take you through the steps to create a draft that can be submitted for review. Important things to keep in mind are that the article's topic should be notable. This generally means that it has already been covered in detail in good references from independent sources. If you have a connection with the subject of your draft, you will need to provide a required disclosure – see the conflict of interest guideline for more information about that.Writing an article from scratch can be really tough for new editors, so if you are finding it challenging, I would actually encourage you to edit existing articles for a while to get the hang of things. Let me know if you have additional questions or need more detailed guidance! DanCherek (talk) 19:17, 14 November 2022 (UTC)

Need some Help on WikiProject Copyright Cleanup
Hello dear! I'm Rabbe...

Hope your doing well. I am new on WikiProject Copyright Cleanup and I need your help.

Please can you tell me the simplest way on how can I start Copyright Cleanup ? Rabbe Quiz (talk) 19:32, 14 November 2022 (UTC)


 * Hi, and thanks for your interest in helping out. I noticed that you have only seven edits to mainspace (and less than 100 edits overall), so I'd recommend getting some more experience around the project first. Copyright cleanup is a notoriously difficult maintenance area to work in – the things it often involves include removing other people's additions to articles, presumptively rewriting affected text, knowing when to check for potential copyright violations, and explaining the nuances of the copyright policy to other editors, so it definitely helps to have a bit of editing experience under your belt before you dive in. DanCherek (talk) 20:48, 15 November 2022 (UTC)

Question from Gemmasalomon (06:50, 8 November 2022)
Hi there! Looking to get some help with two pages I want to set up. One is in my sandbox - for Kerry Heysen Film Producer. How can I get feedback on the page before I submit? The other is The Angels: Kickin' Down the Door - this first attempt was rejected so would love some assistance with getting it right. Thanks! --Gemmasalomon (talk) 06:50, 8 November 2022 (UTC)


 * The Teahouse is a good place to ask for feedback with drafts, or any other questions about editing. Regarding Draft:The Angels: Kickin' Down the Door, I recommend following the tips in the decline notice – there are also some unsourced claims (like the Sennet quote). DanCherek (talk) 15:03, 10 November 2022 (UTC)
 * Ok great thank you. Will go to the tea house The claim from the sennet quote is on the movie poster - on imdb? Would this considered a credible source or needs to be an article from Sean Sennet? Thanks! Gemmasalomon (talk) 02:26, 15 November 2022 (UTC)
 * No, ideally the contents of an article are based on the extent of coverage in reliable, independent sources. DanCherek (talk) 20:49, 15 November 2022 (UTC)

City as the Artist's Subjectivity
Hello, I am coming up of submitting an article on City as the Artist's Subjectivity. Could you take a look and let me know if there's any issues with the article? Thank you. Artcurator (talk) 14:24, 7 November 2022 (UTC)


 * There is still close paraphrasing of this source in the "Key ideas" section (From the banal to the sacred and back again vs. From the trivial to the sacred and back again, Urban routine, observed on almost every corner vs. urban life that can be noticed on almost every street corner) and the section as a whole reads more like a catalog entry promoting the publication than a neutral description. For one, I would cut out the sentence fragments. DanCherek (talk) 16:54, 7 November 2022 (UTC)
 * Well thank you. I removed fragments. Please bring the article back to Wikipedia. Artcurator (talk) 13:39, 15 November 2022 (UTC)
 * You can move it back to mainspace yourself, if you'd like. DanCherek (talk) 20:49, 15 November 2022 (UTC)
 * Great thank you. Artcurator (talk) 22:06, 15 November 2022 (UTC)

Mitsubishi ASX (second generation)
The IP creating the draft redirect on Draft:Mitsubishi ASX (second generation) was me. I was anonymous at that time. OOO O fanboy (talk) 20:04, 16 November 2022 (UTC)


 * Oh. Well, even so, redirects are allowed in draft namespace; that's not a valid reason to speedy delete it. DanCherek (talk) 20:08, 16 November 2022 (UTC)
 * Most admins say the vice versa. OOO O fanboy (talk)  11:17, 17 November 2022 (UTC)
 * Even so, please refrain from moving random pages into your own userspace and tagging for G7 in the future. If you created them from an IP and there’s a reason to delete it, WP:RFD (or WP:PROD or WP:AFD) are available. There’s simply no way to verify that you were the original creator. DanCherek (talk) 12:18, 17 November 2022 (UTC)

Question from Pettymars0193 (13:24, 18 November 2022)
Can I spell-check articles for fun while I'm at school not paying attention to easy classes --El Pettymars0193 (talk) 13:24, 18 November 2022 (UTC)


 * I recommend paying attention during classes, even if it's easy But in your free time, copy-editing is always appreciated! DanCherek (talk) 14:42, 18 November 2022 (UTC)

Continued T-ban violation
Sorry to report that Aarp65 has continued violating their topic ban. , & . Informing you as you are the warning admin. BeReasonabl (talk) 06:46, 14 November 2022 (UTC)


 * I have blocked for one week. DanCherek (talk) 12:27, 14 November 2022 (UTC)
 * As a retrospective note, Category:Surnames of Curaçao origin was created before the topic ban was imposed, so it was not a contributing factor to the block. Their subsequent edits were unambiguous violations, however. DanCherek (talk) 03:43, 21 November 2022 (UTC)

Re: Special:Contributions/Hong kong lover 28191
Thanks for the block. Can you remove TP access also? Additionally, can you consider extended confirmed protection and move protection on the pages this user modified? Figure I'd ask you directly instead of making a bunch of RPP requests. Uhai (talk) 01:19, 23 November 2022 (UTC)


 * TPA revoked. At this point, I'm not very experienced with page protection, so I'm going to pass the buck on that one – feel free to put in those requests (or just ask the previous protecting administrator). Thanks! DanCherek (talk) 03:10, 23 November 2022 (UTC)