User talk:DanTD/Archive. March - April 2018

March 2018 NRHP noms from Long Island
The SHPB is meeting again today, and it is considering four nominations out on the Island that you might be able to photograph before they get listed if you are so inclined, two each in Nassau and Suffolk.


 * Hempstead Town Hall, 1 Washington St., Hempstead. We have a serviceable picture of this one already, but maybe we could get in the whole structure under better light?


 * Mitchel Air Base and Flight Line. This basically seems to be that part of the Nassau Community College campus adapted from the former Mitchel Air Force Base. It seems from the photos in the nomination that it should be easy to identify the former hangars and such. The map is also helpful.


 * Sisters of St. Joseph Motherhouse, 1725 Brentwood Road, Brentwood as if you couldn't figure that out! Looks like a pretty large and obvious complex. There is a subsection of the article on the order that a picture of this would probably illustrate quite well.


 * Wading River Radio Station, 408 North Side Road, (wait for it!) Wading River. On the campus of Camp DeWolfe; I don't know whether that would pose any access issues (probably not at this time of year, but do check first). Interesting story with this one ... it's not some sort of blocky concrete station important in the development of radio, as I had first thought, but rather an architecturally unexceptional red wood-frame house that ... was used by the FBI during the war for double agents to send disinformation to German intelligence! Wow! Daniel Case (talk) 18:52, 16 March 2018 (UTC)
 * Hmm, looks like we already have an article on this one. But, picturesque as the image is, we could probably do with one in warmer weather. Daniel Case (talk) 19:00, 16 March 2018 (UTC)
 * I agree about the need for a non-winter picture, but this looks nice for the time being. The Sisters of St. Joseph Motherhouse (Brentwood, New York) (a.k.a. St. Joseph's Academy and Convent (Brentwood, New York)) is a site I've seen on Hagstrom's road atlases as well as other maps, but never considered visiting until some of my more recent trips back to Long Island. I certainly regret not dropping by there on my November 2017 trip, and I wasn't entirely sure it was still around. Good to know anyhow. -User:DanTD (talk) 19:57, 16 March 2018 (UTC)

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I expanded an article you tagged as needing expansion from its French counterpart
DanTD, in July of 2015, you marked the article on the 47th Station on the Chicago "L"'s Green Line as needing expansion with text translated from its corresponding article in the French Wikipedia. Well, late last Tuesday, I took the liberty of expanding the English version of the article using the text translated from its French counterpart. I have to admit, though, the French version of the "47th station (CTA Green Line)" article looks like it was expanded using text translated from an English-language Wikipedia article, but that's not the case. Jim856796 (talk) 04:10, 23 March 2018 (UTC)
 * . I never understood why the French versions had more detail than the English versions, though. -User:DanTD (talk) 15:55, 23 March 2018 (UTC)

USSTATION
I highly advise you cease your nonsensical rants about WP:USSTATION. It has been policy since 2014; attempting to undermine it just because you don't like it is disruptive and in bad faith. You know very well that the matter is settled, and that you're not going to convince anyone. (Hell, part of the reason I stopped complaining about it was because I didn't wish to be associated with your childish reactions, and as soon as I actually gave it a chance I rather liked it.) I'm not sure what you're trying to do with edits like this, but they waste editors' time and don't contribute to the project. If I see one more disruptive complaint from you - edit summary, talk page rant, whatever - then I will go to AN/I to seek a topic ban (you being banned from complaining about the policy) so that the rest of us can have useful discussions about station naming without you interfering. Understand? Pi.1415926535 (talk) 19:01, 13 April 2018 (UTC)
 * Oh my God! I can not believe you're claiming my complaints about the WP:USSTATION policies are "nonsensical!" So you basically go along with their foolish policies because you don't like my tone! "Useful discussions?" I wish there were useful discussions, instead of simply towing the line. If anything, the only thing making the old system "depreciated" is that the people who want to get rid of it are the ones that don't like it. ---User:DanTD (talk) 05:35, 14 April 2018 (UTC)
 * This isn't about whether the policy is right or wrong. That's what you don't get. This is about your disruptive behavior. You derail every single discussion about station naming to argue a point that you and only you believe. That is contrary to any sort of collaboration. Do you wish to strike your latest comment from TWP, or do you wish me to click "submit" on the AN/I report I have written out? The choice is yours. Pi.1415926535 (talk) 06:32, 14 April 2018 (UTC)
 * No, this is about whether the policy is right or wrong. And there was nothing wrong with my previous statement so if you're going to raise a stink over that, I'm going to challenge you on your accusations. Evidently the problem isn't that I'm disruptive, but that you don't seem to like the fact that I object to any of this. And if the administrators feel it's okay that you want to submit an AN/I report over this, it only proves my previous edit summary was right. Do you want to prove me wrong? Then just let me finish whatever sandboxes I've been working on (or at least find someone to take them over), let me delete any of the ones I haven't started, and I'll leave the project voluntarily. Any other project that crossover with TWP, I'll just continue to work on. -User:DanTD (talk) 06:50, 14 April 2018 (UTC)
 * Give the melodrama a break. Your behavior is problematic in a way completely independent from any technical righteousness about the policy. Pi.1415926535 (talk) 07:43, 14 April 2018 (UTC)
 * "Melodrama?!" I'm trying to make a deal here. I'm beginning to think you're trying to pick a fight, and I really hope I'm wrong. If not, all bets are off, and I won't stand for such accusations. If you decide to post the AN/I report, I'm going to tell them the truth. -User:DanTD (talk) 13:00, 14 April 2018 (UTC)
 * USSTATION is a guideline, not policy. DanTD is entitled to oppose it. That said, in the diff you provided, DanTD does have a point that a legitimate complaint that there can be phonetic confusion. I understand and sympathize that this isn't the best solution, especially since so many steps get dropped along the way (e.g. creating appropriate redirects to the new pages). In the case of NYC transportation, this is especially complicated. However, calling discussions "bogus" isn't the right way to go about it. Although your comment itself isn't disruptive, it is on the borderline, so I suggest you tone down your comments a bit. epicgenius (talk) 17:03, 14 April 2018 (UTC)

A place to photograph
I have a place to add to your Long Island/NRHP photo get list. Fort Massapeag Archeological Site was (a) address restricted in the NRHP list for Oyster Bay, and (b) incorrectly geolocated in the article and the NHL list for New York. I have corrected the geolocation -- the site is in Sunset Park, Massapequa, and there is (or was, it's still visible in Google Street View here) a sign.  Magic ♪piano 22:09, 15 April 2018 (UTC)
 * Looks like it has some very easy access from Merrick Road too. I'll see if I can grab it this summer. -User:DanTD (talk) 22:36, 15 April 2018 (UTC)

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