User talk:DanTD/Archive. November - December 2009

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Re: Florida Railroad Station source
Thanks for telling me about that. I see the book is available on Amazon so that might be an interesting buy. Murjax (talk) 17:35, 6 November 2009 (UTC)

Lafayette Big Four depot
Confused, what do you mean: is there already an article about it? Nyttend (talk) 02:25, 12 November 2009 (UTC)
 * I just discovered Lafayette, Indiana (Amtrak station). Nyttend (talk) 02:30, 12 November 2009 (UTC)

Cragin and Hermosa Metra stations
I don't know when they opened either. I've tried to find Metra opening dates before for other stations, and all of the older Metra stations are terribly hard to find opening dates for; there aren't any Metra fansites that I know of (I wish there was a Metra equivalent of chicago-l.org), and Metra itself doesn't provide any information. Aside from digging through old news archives or books, I don't know where to get old Metra opening dates. TheCatalyst31 Reaction•Creation 23:52, 16 November 2009 (UTC)

Fair use images as icons
Dan (I presume? :)), I removed a large number of instances of the Massachusetts Turnpike shield where they were used as icons, at 20px dimensions or less. The guideline at WP:MOSLOGO contains a specific prohibition against the use of copyrighted imagery as icons, "Use of [copyrighted] images as icons is nearly always prohibited". Further, WP:NFG notes a prohibition on using fair use images in gallery/tabular format, the underlying principle being that it fails WP:NFCC #1 replacability concerns and #8 significance. In the case you want to use this icon on New York State Thruway, we already have the words "Massachusetts Turnpike" which is sufficient to convey meaning. I am reverting your re-addition of the iconicized logo and the additional FUR to the image. Thanks, --Hammersoft (talk) 14:40, 20 November 2009 (UTC)
 * I'm just trying to arrange it so that the shield can be used in both articles. You've got the Garden State Parkway shield being used on that spur, and nobody's complaining about that. The same goes for every time Interstate 95 crosses a state line. DanTD (talk) 14:47, 20 November 2009 (UTC)
 * The Garden State shield isn't copyrighted, and therefore can more readily be used. Same goes for Interstate shields, and most state shields. Unfortunately, this state shield is copyrighted. --Hammersoft (talk) 14:48, 20 November 2009 (UTC)
 * So you're going to eliminate this everywhere, including on the Interstate 90 in Massachusetts article? That bites! Somebody has to create a non-free version of this. The same goes for the Maine Turnpike logo. DanTD (talk) 14:53, 20 November 2009 (UTC)
 * I have eliminated it everywhere it was used as an icon in violation of our guidelines, yes. As for the Maine Turnpike, there is no logo on Wikipedia for it other than the I-95 shield, which is public domain. I'm very sorry about this, but non-free imagery has to jump through a lot of hoops to be permissible here. --Hammersoft (talk) 14:56, 20 November 2009 (UTC)

(also note I am merging discussions to your talk page, so we have it all in one place...I'll follow along here if you have anything else you want to say) --Hammersoft (talk) 14:57, 20 November 2009 (UTC)

T&P station
Well, they're not merged. The old structure involved breaking up into individual components, which diverged significantly over time from the main template. This change brings those boxes back into line with the rest of the encyclopedia. This really needs to happen, for technical reasons if nothing else. Is there something in particular that doesn't look right? Mackensen (talk) 16:12, 21 November 2009 (UTC)

Replied on my talk page. Let's centralize there. Mackensen (talk) 16:25, 21 November 2009 (UTC)

Ping. The font size on is larger now and matches other infoboxes. Can we revisit this? Mackensen (talk) 01:04, 26 November 2009 (UTC)

I've completed merging all the CTA infoboxes and I'm planning to start on the remaining station/NRHP articles. Any objections? Mackensen (talk) 03:33, 1 December 2009 (UTC)

Redirecting articles
Hi Dan, I may be able to help (in between moving house). What exactly is it you are trying to do? Give me an example at least. Cheers. --Bermicourt (talk) 15:45, 26 November 2009 (UTC)


 * Roger, are you trying to write the articles from scratch on de:wiki or just link them to the museum home pages? I'm only able to help with translating existing de:wiki articles to en:wiki. Quite a few of the blue links on the latter were translated by me, especially in Bavaria. --Bermicourt (talk) 19:31, 26 November 2009 (UTC)

Pace bus connection links
After I started changing the links from "CTA" to "List of Chicago Transit Authority bus routes" on 'L' and Metra station pages you began to do something similar with Pace bus routes. At the time I agreed, but now I'm thinking using List of Pace bus routes might be a better link than Pace (transit). (Okay, so I only just bothered to look for such a page today.) Granted, the list for Pace bus routes is rather primitive in comparison to that for CTA.

Additionally, given that any user fixing pages with AWB removes the wikimarkup in the headlines, I'm wondering if the pages should be changed from

CTA Bus Connections
to

Bus Connections
CTA

even if there are only connections for the one service at a station. These type already exist for stations with more than one bus service. Lost on Belmont (talk) 03:40, 29 November 2009 (UTC)
 * Take note that there's a template which helps with formatting and provides a link to Pace's website: . Mackensen (talk) 13:10, 29 November 2009 (UTC)

Penn and Phil
–xenotalk 16:11, 19 December 2009 (UTC)

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