User talk:Dan (Canadore College Marketing)

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A few brief points
Hello Dan. Before you begin editing in earnest, I would like to alert you to a few important matters: I know that this is a lot of information, but forewarned is forearmed. COI/paid editors have a unique set of challenges that make editing Wikipedia harder than for average users. --Drm310 🍁 (talk) 15:06, 7 May 2019 (UTC)
 * 1) The comment on this account's creation was "I work and study at Canadore College. Our Marketing team is updating all of our social media and web presence. I would have very much preferred to have the other account as I could have been passed on to the next employee tasked with this action item". Please note that Wikipedia accounts can never be shared, ever, for any reason. Only one person - the same person - is allowed to use an account for its entire lifetime. It is imperative that all the edits made by an account are attributable to a specific, individual editor.
 * 2) If you are representing Candore College and will be editing or creating articles on their behalf, you need to be familiar with Wikipedia's conflict of interest (COI) guidelines. We discourage editors from editing topics where they have a personal or professional connection, due to the inherent difficulty in adhering to the required neutral point of view. If you decide to proceed anyway, you should be transparent about your connection to the topic by posting a disclosure on your userpage (User:Dan (Canadore College Marketing)).
 * 3) If you are being paid by Candore College, then you are in fact required to make a disclosure per Wikipedia's paid editing disclosure policy. You will need to list every article that you are being paid to edit, and who is paying you. Adherence to this policy is non-negotiable.
 * 4) Please be aware that Wikipedia does not allow editors to advertise, publicize or promote anything or anyone. Basically, Wikipedia has no interest in what a person or organization wants to say about themselves. Content should be cited to reliable sources that are unaffiliated with the subject. Content that is deemed promotional in nature will be removed.
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May 2019
There is currently a discussion at Administrators' noticeboard/Incidents regarding an issue with which you may have been involved. The thread is Canadore College. Ritchie333 (talk) (cont)  15:41, 7 May 2019 (UTC)

re "what I have been tasked with "
Hello Dan (Canadore College Marketing). The nature of your edits gives the impression you have an undisclosed financial stake in promoting a topic, but you have not complied with Wikipedia's mandatory paid editing disclosure requirements. Paid advocacy is a category of conflict of interest (COI) editing that involves being compensated by a person, group, company or organization to use Wikipedia to promote their interests. Undisclosed paid advocacy is prohibited by our policies on neutral point of view and what Wikipedia is not, and is an especially egregious type of COI; the Wikimedia Foundation regards it as a "black hat" practice akin to black-hat SEO.

Paid advocates are very strongly discouraged from direct article editing, and should instead propose changes on the talk page of the article in question if an article exists, and if it does not, from attempting to write an article at all. At best, any proposed article creation should be submitted through the articles for creation process, rather than directly.

Regardless, if you are receiving or expect to receive compensation for your edits, broadly construed, you are  required by the Wikimedia Terms of Use to disclose your employer, client and affiliation. You can post such a mandatory disclosure to your user page at User:Dan (Canadore College Marketing). The template Paid can be used for this purpose – e.g. in the form:. If I am mistaken – you are not being directly or indirectly compensated for your edits – please state that in response to this message. Otherwise, please provide the required disclosure. In either case, do not edit further until you answer this message.

" I would like to have this relocked to prevent "editors" who are in fact not related to the department or even the school, " and other concerns
WP:OWN Ain't gonna happen. Wikipedia is an encyclopedia. It is not a promotional venue for you to promote a truly amazing (or whatever) institution. You may discuss content on the talk page, but otherwise it would be best that you not edit this page. WP:CIVILITY Also, your snide personal attacks and casting of aspersions really make it look like you are unprepared for editing in a collegial manner on a multi-contributor project like this one. Content All content must be cited from reliable sources that are unconnected with the subject and have a reputation for fact checking. We are not interested in content provided by subjects of articles-- or those "tasked" to perform such edits. Notability This subject must meet WP:CORP It is doubtful to me that it does. It may be amazing, wonderful, and full of good things. But it still needs to meet WP:CORP. Thanks,  Dloh Cier   ekim  15:58, 7 May 2019 (UTC)


 * Hi, since I also reacted to that statement on the article talk page ... I personally have no doubt the college is notable, but out of the volumes of reading linked in the welcome template at the top of this page, please look at our policy of verifiability and the linked page on what kinds of sources we prefer. This is where we are coming from: as an encyclopedia, our policy is to base articles as much as possible on what independent reliable sources have said on the topic. Yngvadottir (talk) 17:29, 7 May 2019 (UTC)

I have read the responses to the edits. I do not feel that I was necessarily out of line and uncivil, my name was intentional in order to indicate who I represent. Removing inaccurate and false information is something that needed to be done and I was being undermined at each turn. I was unaware of the polices and procedures in relation to edits and employment. Please refer to my bio for credentials.

Regarding sources please refer to the links below to validate the legitimacy of Canadore College: https://www.canadorecollege.ca/ https://www.canadorecollege.ca/about/locations https://www.ontariocolleges.ca/en/colleges/canadore

https://osap.gov.on.ca/OSAPPortal/en/Contacts/ProvinciallyfundedSchoolsinOntario/TCONT003514.html https://www.facebook.com/canadorecollege/ http://www.studynorth.ca/financial-aid-paying-for-college-ontario-student-assistance-program-osap/

In compliance with Wikipedia policy, I will most definitely be vigilant to support information with as many sources as possible. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Dan (Canadore College Marketing) (talk • contribs)

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Thank you.

and also...

Everyone is welcome to contribute constructively to the encyclopedia. However, discussion pages are meant to be a record of a discussion; deleting or editing legitimate comments, as you did at Talk:Canadore College, is considered bad practice, even if you meant well. Even making spelling and grammatical corrections in others' comments is generally frowned upon, as it tends to irritate the users whose comments you are correcting. Take a look at the welcome page to learn more about contributing to this encyclopedia. Thank you. --Drm310 🍁 (talk) 17:41, 7 May 2019 (UTC)