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Your contributed article, Khergarh


Hello, I noticed that you recently created a new page, Khergarh. First, thank you for your contribution; Wikipedia relies solely on the efforts of volunteers such as you. Unfortunately, the page you created covers a topic on which we already have a page – Khed, Rajasthan. Because of the duplication, your article has been tagged for speedy deletion. Please note that this is not a comment on you personally and we hope you will continue helping to improve Wikipedia. If the topic of the article you created is one that interests you, then perhaps you would like to help out at Khed – you might like to discuss new information at the article's talk page.

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Dabhi dynasty
What has happened? Where is the alleged source? Now the article is unsourced.Xx236 (talk) 10:42, 12 April 2016 (UTC)

April 2016
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Also again, as User:220 of Borg asked you here above, please use the edit summary. That would be polite towards other editors. '' Sam Sailor Talk! 10:59, 12 April 2016 (UTC)


 * I agree with about previewing and, naturally, using edit summaries.


 * • Please also consider adding a references section, categories, and a stub template when appropriate, as I did here to Vejalsinhji Dabhi. ALL Wikipedia pages are supposed to be sourced, but if you continue creating un-sourced pages, you can expect them to be deleted!
 * • Also please don't add an inaccurate template such as , as the Vejalsinhji Dabhi page was unsourced and the template date was also wrong.
 * • Thirdly, a response of some sort would also be polite!
 * • Fourthly, why have you recreated Khergarh, which is a copy of Khed, Rajasthan (Which is why it was previously deleted. ) You are not allowed to just copy other editors work and present it as if it is yours. See wp:copying within Wikipedia, for more information. 220  of  Borg 14:00, 12 April 2016 (UTC)

Talkback
Sam Sailor Talk! 11:13, 12 April 2016 (UTC)

Your contributed article, Khergarh


Hello, I noticed that you recently created a new page, Khergarh. First, thank you for your contribution; Wikipedia relies solely on the efforts of volunteers such as you. Unfortunately, the page you created covers a topic on which we already have a page – Khed, Rajasthan. Because of the duplication, your article has been tagged for speedy deletion. Please note that this is not a comment on you personally and we hope you will continue helping to improve Wikipedia. If the topic of the article you created is one that interests you, then perhaps you would like to help out at Khed, Rajasthan – you might like to discuss new information at the article's talk page.

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Your contributed article, Khergadh


Hello, I noticed that you recently created a new page, Khergadh. First, thank you for your contribution; Wikipedia relies solely on the efforts of volunteers such as you. Unfortunately, the page you created covers a topic on which we already have a page – Khed, Rajasthan. Because of the duplication, your article has been tagged for speedy deletion. Please note that this is not a comment on you personally and we hope you will continue helping to improve Wikipedia. If the topic of the article you created is one that interests you, then perhaps you would like to help out at Khed, Rajasthan – you might like to discuss new information at the article's talk page.

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You disappeared?
On 11 April you moved Dabhi to Dabhi dynasty without giving a rationale. On 12 April I asked on Talk:Dabhi dynasty why the article had been moved, and posted a talkback here on your user talk page. You did not reply, but made a further edit to Vejalsinhji Dabhi. And have not edited since. I suppose you could have been editing logged out from ?

The edits made to Dabhi and Dabhi dynasty since till  basically turns a weakly sourced stub about a clan into something that makes unsourced claims about a Dawangara State. The relevant diff with 75 intermediate revisions can be seen. Apart from removing material that supposedly was sourced from the single reference that was previously included, you add

I am faced with a number of challenges:
 * To begin with I can't find sources to verify this Dabhi dynasty that you claim existed for 700 years from the 5th to the 11th century.
 * In the infobox you specify the conventional_long_name parameter to be "डाभी राजवंश". If I Google that, I get two Facebook hits and the Dabhi dynasty articles.
 * Let's have a look at the new small stubs you have created, and that you link to from Dabhi dynasty:
 * Muldevsinhji Dabhi, supposedly "the most prominent king of the Dabhi dynasty, a dynasty which ruled Mahuba from 640 AD to 1143 AD". The stub is unsourced. I get zero hits when doing a Google search. I do not even get a "Did you mean so-and-so"-result. I only get the Wikipedia article you wrote. Let's try searching on the piped name you gave him, Muldevji: still no reliable sources found.
 * Similar with Vejalsinhji Dabhi, supposedly also "the most prominent king of the Dabhi dynasty, a dynasty which ruled Dangarwa after migrated from Bhildigarh". Zero useful hits. It doesn't matter that we try using your caption to your own photo File:1st King of Dangarwa .jpg "Vejal Sinhji Dabhi", still no luck finding sources.
 * Khergarh, should supposedly be synonymous with Khed, Rajasthan from where you copied the text and added your own upload File:Khedgarh.jpg. There appears to be a Khergarh village in Jasrana tehsil of Firozabad district in Uttar Pradesh. I don't know what one village in Uttar Pradesh has to do with another supposed village in Rajasthan. Search for sources gives me no clue to a connection.
 * Then there is Mahuba. On the one hand you claim that it is "is a village in Balotra of Barmer district of Rajasthan", and that "it is one of the oldest seats of power in western part of Rajasthan. During the seventh century it was the capital of Muldevji of the Dabhi dynasty". Well, if that was the truth, then it is pretty strange that we don't get at least a census result when we Google Mahuba Balotra. Let alone something about it being "one of the oldest seats of power in western part of "Rajasthan".
 * Turning to your image uploads:
 * File:Dabhi flag.jpg is supposedly the "Dabhi Dynasty State Flag". I don't believe that. You say it's your own work, and that I do believe. I'd say it's a pretty poor manipulation of this image (or similar) found on http://elogedelart.canalblog.com/archives/2009/09/29/15235393.html
 * File:State Symbol.jpg - that looks like a pristine and genuinely original piece of computer graphics.
 * File:1st Thakur Saheb Of Dangarwa State.jpg - did you rip this from Instagram?

We often get articles that can be hard to source. Sometimes their subjects are just not notable. The chance that your contributions are anything but a poorly constructed attempt to create an elaborate hoax is slim to infinitesimal. Naturally I invite you to verify your contributions and disprove me.

Actions taken by me will include reverting in Dabhi dynasty and asking it be moved back to it's old title Dabhi, proposing Mahuba, Muldevsinhji Dabhi, and Vejalsinhji Dabhi be deleted as unverifiable, probable hoaxes, sending Khergarh to WP:RFD, and, should I not hear from you, nominate your uploads on Commons for deletion.

Pinging 220 of Borg and Xx236 who both have been involved here. Further pinging Graeme Bartlett who have redirected Khergarh to Khed, Rajasthan and added a pic to Khed, Rajasthan.

Sam Sailor Talk! 00:57, 19 April 2016 (UTC)
 * My actions in relation to Khergarh and Khed, Rajasthan was in response to a speedy deletion nomination with a rationale of a duplicate topic. I merged some content from one to the other and redirected, as there was unique content not in the other. I left out "New transport nagar 4th phashe balotra Barmer Rajsathan" as it did not make enough sense to me. I saw no references to verify anything, so I won't vote on Khergarh as a valid redirect in a RFD, except to say if it is deleted, then content from Khed, Rajasthan should be demerged to satisfy attribution requirements. Graeme Bartlett (talk) 03:30, 19 April 2016 (UTC)


 * I agree with your actions here Sam Sailor. If the creator can't WP:Verify, and can't be bothered to reply to messages, particularly in regard to copy/pasting content, I don't think we should waste any more time on this issue.220  of  Borg 15:10, 19 April 2016 (UTC)

Proposed deletion of Muldevsinhji Dabhi


The article Muldevsinhji Dabhi has been proposed for deletion&#32; because of the following concern:
 * Unverifiable and very likely part of an elaborate hoax by, cf. User talk:Dangarwa

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Proposed deletion of Vejalsinhji Dabhi


The article Vejalsinhji Dabhi has been proposed for deletion&#32; because of the following concern:
 * Unverifiable and very likely part of an elaborate hoax by, cf. User talk:Dangarwa

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Proposed deletion of Mahuba


The article Mahuba has been proposed for deletion&#32; because of the following concern:
 * Unverifiable and very likely part of an elaborate hoax by, cf. User talk:Dangarwa

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Speedy deletion nomination of Template:Dabhi


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Speedy deletion nomination of Template:Dabhi Dynasty


Hello, and welcome to Wikipedia. Although everyone is welcome to contribute to Wikipedia, introducing inappropriate pages, such as Template:Dabhi Dynasty, is not in accordance with our policies. If you would like to experiment, please use the sandbox. Under section G3 of the criteria for speedy deletion, the page has been nominated for deletion.

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Khergarh listed at Redirects for discussion
An editor has asked for a discussion to address the redirect Khergarh. Since you had some involvement with the Khergarh redirect, you might want to participate in the redirect discussion if you have not already done so. Sam Sailor Talk! 19:52, 30 April 2016 (UTC)

Speedy deletion nomination of Mahuba


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May 2016
You may be blocked from editing without further warning the next time you vandalize Wikipedia by deliberately introducing incorrect information, as you did at Dabhi. Sam Sailor Talk! 09:22, 4 May 2016 (UTC)