User talk:Danger/Archive 10

Block of User:HRH2
With your permission, I'd like to extend this block indefinitely; that caliber of personal insult is something I don't take very lightly. Of course, it's up to you. m.o.p 06:07, 30 June 2011 (UTC)
 * Of course. To be honest, I thought I was going to be reverted on the block even at that length, given that the user hadn't even been warned; [bitterness redacted]. --Danger (talk) 06:43, 30 June 2011 (UTC)

Proposed Tibetan naming conventions
A while back, I posted a new proposal for Tibetan naming conventions, i.e. conventions that can be used to determine the most appropriate titles for articles related to the Tibetan region. This came out of discussions about article titles on Talk:Qamdo and Talk:Lhoka (Shannan) Prefecture. I hope that discussions on the proposal's talk page will lead to consensus in favour of making these conventions official, but so far only a few editors have left comments. If you would be interested in taking a look at the proposed naming conventions and giving your opinion, I would definitely appreciate it. Thanks&mdash;Nat Krause(Talk!·What have I done?) 20:47, 1 July 2011 (UTC)

Copyrigt of translations
It's interesting to  note that  WP:COPYRIGHTS makes no  specific mention that  covers users' translations of copyrighted material. I suppose this comes under derivative works, but  it  would be helpful if there were a clear mention of it. FWIW, as a professional translator, translation contracts are handled on  a one-by-one basis. They can include a copyright  for  the translator, or no  copyright  for the translator. It often depends on expected sales of the translated work, or on a one-off fee for  the translation. Sometimes I get copyright  royalties on  the sales in addition  to  the fee for the translation. --Kudpung กุดผึ้ง (talk) 06:13, 5 July 2011 (UTC)
 * Interesting. Apparently, there's some sort of "subcopyright", if you will, created by translating. In other words, the original copyright holder owns the text, but you as the translator own the creative work of the translation. Or something like that. Copyright law is based on some very weird ideas about authorship.
 * COPYRIGHTS actually makes no mention of derivative works at all, which is a bit strange, but perhaps it would be overcomplicating things. --Danger (talk) 12:38, 5 July 2011 (UTC)

That User you Blocked
Dear Danger

That User you blocked yesrtday, it says a week on his contributions page but a template says a month on his talk page. What is it Really? --Mr. Curious Man 9:56, July 7, 2011 (UTC)
 * This clearly refers to the block of 81.158.137.106. I am confident that Mr. Curious Man was the user of the IP address in question, despite using "his" rather than "my". JamesBWatson (talk) 10:47, 7 July 2011 (UTC)
 * No need. I could be less likelily. I need to be around tomorrow. I have an important merging job to do. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Mr. Curious Man (talk • contribs) 15:17, 7 July 2011 (UTC)
 * It's a week. I apologize for the typo. --Danger (talk) 15:54, 7 July 2011 (UTC)

Deletion requests
Please delete the redirection page Outline of video games, which I created, to make way for a page move. Thank you. The Transhumanist 15:33, 7 July 2011 (UTC)

Please delete the redirection page Outline of actuarial science to make way for a page move. Thank you. The Transhumanist 15:10, 7 July 2011 (UTC)
 * Ayep. Danger (talk) 16:00, 7 July 2011 (UTC)

Please, do something else
In two days, do whatever you want, I'll be gone. Let me have my swan song. It's certainly not hurting the project, as I'm not editing anymore. Seriously, I don't know you, but you've got better things to do than to patrol a page of a user that's probably not going to be alive in a couple of days. And come on, protecting FT2 is kind of ironic, don't you think? Orange Marlin Talk• Contributions 07:20, 8 July 2011 (UTC)
 * All of our userpages, mine included, belong to the project, not to us. Cla68 (talk) 07:24, 8 July 2011 (UTC)
 * Alright. I had hoped that my edit would be a reasonable compromise, but so it goes. Danger (talk) 07:29, 8 July 2011 (UTC)

Undelete request
I'm gearing up to redesign my userpage, and I need to look over the pages from my original user account. I have my original summary of contributions in there, previous user page design, old projects I'd like to review, etc.

The account name is User:Go for it!. I need all its pages undeleted.

If it's not too much trouble, that is.

I come to you because I know the job will get done right.

Sincerely, The Transhumanist 21:52, 5 July 2011 (UTC)
 * Okay, I think I've gotten most of them. (I only looked through your userpage and menus, so if you had subpages attached to your sandbox or something like that, let me know and I'll restore those too.) I've restored the following:
 * User:Go for it!
 * User:Go for it!/Userpage
 * User:Go for it!/Menu
 * User:Go for it!/Archives
 * User:Go for it!/Stress
 * User:Go for it!/Templates
 * User:Go for it!/WikiProjects
 * User:Go for it!/VC
 * User:Go for it!/adminbar
 * User:Go for it!/Contributions
 * User:Go for it!/Workshop
 * User:Go for it!/User links
 * User:Go for it!/Wikigoals
 * User:Go for it!/Control room
 * User:Go for it!/Gallery
 * User:Go for it!/Teleportation chamber
 * User:Go for it!/Menu one
 * User:Go for it!/Menu two
 * User:Go for it!/Trophy room
 * User:Go for it!/Workshop/Toolbox
 * Thank you for giving me the incentive to sit still and listen to The Rise and Fall of Ziggy Stardust and the Spiders From Mars. :) Let me know if you need anything else. --Danger (talk) 01:01, 6 July 2011 (UTC)


 * Thank you. I'm going through them now.  If anything is missing, I'll let you know.  The Transhumanist 01:08, 6 July 2011 (UTC)

I'm still searching. Please undelete User:The Transhumanist/Sandbox5. Thank you. The Transhumanist 01:43, 6 July 2011 (UTC)
 * ✅. I'm going to sleep, but I should be available at around 1300 UTC again. --Danger (talk) 01:52, 6 July 2011 (UTC)

Please undelete User:The Transhumanist/Workshop/Sandbox5 and User:The Transhumanist/Workshop2. And do I have any other deleted ones on this account? If so, please undelete them. I still haven't found what I'm looking for. The Transhumanist 00:54, 7 July 2011 (UTC)
 * Done. I don't know of any way of searching for deleted pages; I found the ones I restored above by literally looking through every reversion of your main userpages for redlinks. If there's a way of searching for them, perhaps the folk at the Tech Pump or the Administrator's Noticeboard would know what it is. --Danger (talk) 01:42, 7 July 2011 (UTC)

How come the 2 links above are still red?

Concerning your searching question, I studied this stuff when I was an admin coach. (Though I've never been an admin).

See Viewing and restoring deleted pages.

The relevant info is:


 * To directly access the deleted revisions of a page, type "Special:Undelete/ " in the search box, where " " is the name of the desired page.
 * Going to Special:Undelete without specifying a target brings up a search box, which can be used much like Special:Prefixindex.

That last method, when used on a username should show you all deleted subpages. Let me know if it works! The Transhumanist 03:43, 7 July 2011 (UTC)
 * Ah, I knew there must be an easier way. Nyttend redeleted the above links for some reason... I suppose because the last edit had the template on it. Damn. I should have thought about that. So much for me doing things right. I'll find everything else in the morning. --Danger (talk) 03:52, 7 July 2011 (UTC)

Restored the following: I only restored pages with significant content and didn't restore old drafts. I'll go through more later today. Is any of this helpful? Danger (talk) 16:18, 7 July 2011 (UTC)
 * User:Go for it!/Request for adminship draft2
 * User:The Transhumanist/Follow-up
 * User:The Transhumanist/Header
 * User:The Transhumanist/Header1
 * User:The Transhumanist/Help me
 * User:The Transhumanist/Help me 2
 * User:The Transhumanist/Information
 * User:The Transhumanist/Coaching page
 * User:The Transhumanist/Advice archive
 * User:Go for it!/Draft
 * Restored:

I hope that at least some of this is useful; I'm not sure exactly what you're looking for. Danger (talk) 07:21, 9 July 2011 (UTC)
 * User:Go for it!/Draft2
 * User:Go for it!/Help
 * User:Go for it!/Help link repository
 * User:Go for it!/Icons
 * User:Go for it!/MainPageIntro
 * User:Go for it!/Main Page
 * User:Go for it!/Personal Portal

Thanks
Thank you. Cla68 (talk) 07:18, 8 July 2011 (UTC)
 * I'm sorry for how this went. I sat up for a few hours last night, but still can't think of a solution that isn't shitty. C'est Wikipédia et c'est la vie. --Danger (talk) 03:13, 9 July 2011 (UTC)

Modification of page Sounak Mukhopadhyay
Thanks for your note. I think the page http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sounak_Mukhopadhyay is now properly modified and cleaned-up as per your reccomendation. Please have a look on it. Wikiglobaleditor (talk) 14:54, 9 July 2011 (UTC)
 * I have taken a look and left a note on the article's talk page. Thank you very much for attempting to address these issues.--Danger (talk) 17:59, 9 July 2011 (UTC)

Gracias
Thanks for the watchful eye! 28bytes (talk) 18:08, 9 July 2011 (UTC)
 * No problem. I got seven whole tickets for this round of Whack-a-Mole! The question: what's the prize for a million tickets? --Danger (talk) 18:11, 9 July 2011 (UTC)

Thank you!
Thank you very much for the barnstar! I shall treasure it always, and channel its energy when I get stuck with how to resolve a dispute. —  Mr. Stradivarius ♫ 12:42, 13 July 2011 (UTC)
 * You're welcome. I hope that it comes in handy during tough disputes. :) Danger (talk) 13:07, 13 July 2011 (UTC)

Please comment on Talk:Richard Stengel
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buck private
why and under what authority have you to delete a user page of mine which is there for the purpose of preparation and not public? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Chiscotheque (talk • contribs) 07:51, 18 July 2011 (UTC)
 * See here. Note that all your contributions are public. --Danger (talk) 07:55, 18 July 2011 (UTC)

Deletion of File:The Hermitage Quarry.jpg
Hello - I am puzzled by a message on my watchlist re: the deletion of this file by you:

''(Deletion log); 08:57. . Danger (talk | contribs) deleted "File:The Hermitage Quarry.jpg" (F2: Corrupt or empty file, or a file description page for a file on Commons)''

I used the photo for the page Ditton, Kent. It appears to have been marked for speedy deletion by User:Marcus Qwertyus but there was no notice and the photo has not been deleted despite the above message.

There is nothing wrong with the photo as far as I can see. Thanks Shaibalahmar (talk) 15:52, 18 July 2011 (UTC)
 * This file is actually hosted on Wikimedia Commons, not Wikipedia. The local file page didn't contain any useful information; all that is stored at Commons. The software automatically imports the image from Commons when you load the article, so you wouldn't notice any change. It also imports all the file information when you click on the file, giving the impression that the file page contains something, even though it doesn't. Great job on the article, by the way. --Danger (talk) 17:45, 18 July 2011 (UTC)
 * Thanks for explaining this to me. Shaibalahmar (talk) 17:58, 18 July 2011 (UTC)

Heather Ridout
Seems a somewhat punitive deletion of that particular page. Griordan (talk) 08:25, 19 July 2011 (UTC)
 * You are welcome to start over, this time without violating copyright. --Danger (talk) 16:48, 19 July 2011 (UTC)

Deleted
It does not seem too fair to remove my whole work in less than 2 hours of it being moved. I would not be so annoyed it i got a real reason, well one better than "blatant hoax or misinformation" as i was writing about some who may not be what you define to be famous does not mean that people will not want to read about him or that it's a hoax, how is it a hoax? i simply do not agree. I&#39;m Lovin&#39; TiT (talk) 19:30, 19 July 2011 (UTC)
 * That a 14 year old has published 112 novels, let alone erotic novels, in the space of 4 years is an extraordinary claim that requires extraordinary evidence. You failed to provide even ordinary evidence. I can only conclude that you are perpetuating a hoax (and not a particularly good one either). --Danger (talk) 19:36, 19 July 2011 (UTC)

come on man
right danger you are getting on my bad side, the reason the book covers look shopped is because they are but if you did some homework you would see that most publishers use Adobe Photoshop for designing covers. The company SSPC does exist, just because there is no Wiki for it does not mean its not real. Check out some copyright lists for germany you damn fool. This is simply you last chance to cease and desist, this is my new wiki and i don't want it destroyed by the likes of you. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Imlovintit (talk • contribs) 04:55, 20 July 2011 (UTC)
 * Sorry, no dice. I've got a Saudi Arabian publishing house, a society for protective coatings and Reba McIntire's publishing company as possibilities for this supposed publishing house and none of those sound even remotely reasonable. This is an encyclopedia, not a place to publish fiction or to promote undiscovered authors. See here for inclusion guidelines, here for requirements for sourcing, and here for special considerations for biographies of living people. If you would like to appeal the deletion, you may do so here. Also note that using multiple accounts is generally not allowed, nor is having another person back you up. I'm not sure what relation Spaceman112 has to you, but be sure that your activity follows the guidelines here. --Danger (talk) 05:15, 20 July 2011 (UTC) Struck comments regarding multiple accounts after reading discussion on user's page. Danger (talk) 05:19, 20 July 2011 (UTC)

Re: Replaceable fair use File:Drew-Carey-cured-diabetes-with-weight-lose.jpg
I have mistakenly uploaded this image, could you or any other administrator please delete it as soon as you can. Thanks. 'GWPSP' 'Ø9Ø'    7thAdv.    08:17, 20 July 2011 (UTC)
 * Done. --Danger (talk) 08:19, 20 July 2011 (UTC)

Odd editing patterns by Iniced
So - I've been noticing something, and thought I'd get an uninvolved party to take a look at things... lately, I've noticed Iniced popping up on a lot of pages that I've edited - this editor isn't wikihounding me, per se, but there does seem to be a clear case this this editor is following my edits - he's either harassing other editors, such as this edit earlier today, or injecting himself into conversations/disputes he has no bearing in, such as this one, or other edit conflicts - in fact, he did this enough that at one point someone opened a sockpuppet investigation about me because of his intrusion. This has been going on for about a month - the account was created soon after I'd dealt with some problem IPs, namely 81.159.234.191 (whose edit summaries are written in the same fractured style as Iniced) and 81.153.143.227. I'm not really sure what can be done - like I said, it's not really harassment, but it's just weird. Any thoughts? MikeWazowski (talk) 20:30, 20 July 2011 (UTC)
 * Huh. Bizarre. Looks like you've got yourself a "friend". The accounts seem linked to me and the behaviour is definitely irritating. I'm not sure how disruptive it is. Then again, xe's filing spurious reports and that is disruptive. Honestly, this is above my pay grade. I'd take it to ANI or SPI or DRN ... somewhere where someone knows something. I don't really know much about socks or persistent... annoyances. (If you go to ANI, I would suggest having "I don't know what to do; that's why I came here." in your pocket when the inevitable and always helpful "What administrative action do you want here?" question comes up.) Sorry. I wish I could be more helpful. --Danger (talk) 21:40, 20 July 2011 (UTC)

Monster High webisodes
Please undelete the Monster High Webisodes page. I accidentally published it when I only wanted to see a preview when creating the page when it was marked for Speedy Deletion. I had just finished adding all current webisode information with references to the official website and official Youtube channel just before it was deleted. Majonopersona (talk) 05:36, 21 July 2011 (UTC)
 * I'll tell you what. I'll email you the wiki markup if you don't put it back on Wikipedia. Does that sound fair? --Danger (talk) 05:42, 21 July 2011 (UTC)

:)
Hello Adopter :) hope you are well...

Just wanted to say hello and ask a quick question (also to tell you that I got Augmentative and alternative communication to 'Good Article' status, which I'm proud of and wouldn't have managed without your support) - I wanted to ask a quick dump question about achiving topics on a talkpage - would it be reasonable to archive, say, the topics on Talk:Augmentative and alternative communication that haven't been touched since 2009, or should they stay for the time being? Failedwizard (talk) 08:08, 14 July 2011 (UTC)
 * Congratulations! I think it's reasonable to archive two-year old threads, especially since the talk page is getting a bit long. If anyone objects, you can always revert. If you need any help setting up the archive, let me know. --Danger (talk) 09:45, 14 July 2011 (UTC)
 * I *think* it went fine actually - thanks for the reply and the offer :) Failedwizard (talk) 13:26, 14 July 2011 (UTC)
 * If you're interested, you could use User:Miszabot for automatic archiving. It saves a lot of time. --Danger (talk) 14:00, 14 July 2011 (UTC)
 * Missed this, apologies and thank you! I turned up with another question - If Article A is a subtopic of article B (along the lines of 'The early life of B') are there any wikipedia policies that suggest that facts in B that are relevent to A should be copies/moved to A? (This is possibly the worst explenation ever...) Failedwizard (talk) 13:21, 26 July 2011 (UTC)
 * Hmm... there's no policy but there are some somewhat relevant guidelines and discussions. WP:DETAIL and its parent WP:Summary style talks about the situation that articles A and B are in somewhat generally. I guess what I can say is that some duplication is desirable; both Abraham Lincoln and The early life of Abraham Lincoln will mention where he was born. The latter, though, will go into a lot more detail about his birthplace, but the first might just identify the site. So, if for some reason Abraham Lincoln didn't include his birthplace, that detail should be copied from "Early life of Abraham Lincoln". Does that make sense? Is that helpful? Danger (talk) 16:47, 26 July 2011 (UTC)
 * :) thank you! It does make sense, and is helpful :) Failedwizard (talk) 07:05, 29 July 2011 (UTC)


 * Also... (busy week) I think an article might be worthy of a deletion nomination (it's List_of_people_in_fiction_with_claimed_eidetic_memory) under notabiliy (especially considering the article for Eidetic_memory covers lots of it), would you mind having a quick look and checking that there's a case to be made without looking silly? Just before I put a proper proposal in. Failedwizard (talk) 14:00, 31 July 2011 (UTC)
 * This is a classic garbage bin article. Instead of taking a stand against the trivia cluttering up "Eidetic memory", at some point it got swept into this article out of sight, not that it helped. I'm out of time at the moment, but I'll point you to this essay as a starting point for ideas. I personally think that this is a great example of WP:NOT. Danger (talk) 14:05, 2 August 2011 (UTC)
 * Thank you! have nominated... In other news, I seam to have been put in an odd catagory and I can't work out what's happening... the adoption badge appears to have changed as well... could you look at my user page and tell me if I've gone mad? Failedwizard (talk) 13:28, 3 August 2011 (UTC)
 * So, on Monday someone changed Template:Adopted from a redirect to Template:User Adoptee to that misspelling userbox. I've updated the call of the template on your user page (to ). Whether you've gone mad or not is something that I'm not qualified to comment on, but being a Wikipedian in the first place isn't evidence in your favor. :) --Danger (talk) 23:51, 3 August 2011 (UTC)
 * Thank you! :) Failedwizard (talk) 07:40, 4 August 2011 (UTC)

ISS guidance
Hi Danger, I hope it's been one of your better days. (I hope you feel well).

I was wondering today, same as everyday, how to improve my favorite article. :) On some other page, I had done an edit here which was reverted immediately here on a page that has a military or big business funded tag-team working it. (check the talk-page or edit summary, wow). Lolz, I was thinking as most of earths population do, maybe it's best to leave those sort of people alone. Anyhow, I got to thinking, as I always do, that the ISS pages are not beyond improvement, and considering the warring that goes on there, and that it's all done by ordinary people, a solution to most every problem is possible. After all, it's just a space station.

There are plenty of areas to improve, small facts, large facts, small editor problems, medium and large editor problems. I was thinking one that is not big at all, and is solveable pretty easily, plus you could help me with, as my ideas aren't too flash, is the ENG:VAR's effect upon many other editors. Not something I've ever cared about (although I secretly think hillbilly or maybe cockney slang would be cool variants to use, lol, but impractical for widespread appeal and stability). I was thinking to use google to look into wikipedia's discussion areas to find people who have experience in those matters, and could offer better guidance than I can, to other editors. It may seem calm on the surface, but, as one of my critics put it, it's a 'timebomb' or some such, can't recall, but you just have to scratch the surface and it springs up on anyone, a perfect bear-trap waiting for a new editor to step on, and have their enthusiasm for editing amputated at the ANI hospital clinic, lolz.. Well, rather than looking into google, I'm wondering do you know where I can look for experts ? Naturally, the usual eng:var pages, I've read, many many times.

Apart from that, on matters that I don't need help with, but feel free to comment on, as you're mentoring me(so it's kind of just a news update sort of thing), I've tided up my talkpage setting up mizabot instructions, put up the first of the barnstars I'll make, apologized in a big way to colds7ream on his talkpage, man can I apologize, and started secretly plotting a new project (harmless, just exciting is all) in email. Overall, I'm too cynical at the moment to try putting up a very useful list of improvements to the ISS page for it's FAR. Nobody else cares, they're all 'Beyond FA thar bee see mawnsters' and just wouldn't be capable of bursting the bubble they are in. Penyulap  talk 14:59, 31 July 2011 (UTC)
 * While the body supporting this entity feels fine, the internet provider that allows it to connect to Wikipedia has declined to actually provide internet. I'm out of time today to give you a thorough review; I'll try to get back to you tomorrow. --Danger (talk) 13:58, 2 August 2011 (UTC)


 * Okay, a couple of things. First, ENGVAR is very, very simple. The point is to make sure that articles are standardized and that English variants are not paired with articles in a manner that would be weird or distracting to a reader. I really do not understand the hullabaloo here. As an internationally operated body, it doesn't have an obvious tie to a specific variation of English; maybe, maybe, American English would be "best" but the link is so tenuous that changing the article wouldn't be worth it. Oddly enough, it looks like NASA leans toward British/Canadian English anyway (endeavour versus endeavor). But in the end, it doesn't matter, it just has to be consistent. Any continuation of debate on this will risk landing y'all on WP:LAME. Slap British English on the talk page and let's all go have a pint (of warm beer, naturally).
 * Second, I think you're misunderstanding what a FAR is for. It is not a place to suggest relatively minor improvements or updates to a featured article. It's for discussing articles where the problems are somewhat deep, cause the article to not meet the featured article criteria and have been discussed specifically on the talk page. In order to have a FAR taken seriously, you have to be able to point to the specific criterion that you think an article fails and where you have attempted to address that problem on the talk page. At least you got two nice, thorough reviews from Brad and Ten Pound Hammer (or the otters) on it.
 * And shorts: Nifty barnstar. Why not title make it the an alternate WikiProject Spaceflight barnstar, instead of an ISS specific one? Good of you to apologize, though not starting out with the stuff you feel the recipient has done wrong would help. But, you know, an improvement. I understand your intentions at ANI, but man, what did you do wrong to punish yourself by hanging out there?
 * Thanks for the update. I get the sense that you're going through a medical issue; I wish you luck. Danger (talk) 00:52, 4 August 2011 (UTC)

Hello again / oral history project
Nick here. Since we last corresponded I've done a lot, fun, sucky and in-between: from creating articles and one unsuccessful WikiStrategy proposal, to tangling with a nationalistic POV warrior who finally merited indef blocking and the damage he's done. But I thought you might be interested especially by my latest: brainstorming on how we can include voices of marginalized people more (such as people with disabilities) using wiki-citation of oral histories. User_talk:NickDupree  :)    NickDupree (talk) 01:09, 27 July 2011 (UTC)
 * Ah nationalists, the least fun of all wiki-warriors. Give me a good religious warrior any day over a nationalist (invariably from a country that I, a former geography buff, have never heard of). I must say that I'm extremely skeptical about the place of oral histories on Wikipedia. Oral histories are awesome, fantastic things, but I'm concerned about whether, as primary sources, using them will skew articles toward patchworks of individual perspectives rather than the overview perspective taken by histories written by those at a distance from the topic. I'll think more about it though. --Danger (talk) 13:54, 2 August 2011 (UTC)
 * I agree we should exclude narrow, individual stories, but there are plenty of narratives with broad perspectives too. NickDupree (talk) 06:26, 3 August 2011 (UTC)
 * Regarding nationalistic POV warriors, there was a guy who had been through AN/I for battleground mentality 3x and even through Arbcom (peripherally, loudly defending a fellow fringe theorist). Somehow two other frequent Chinese history editors and me got involved in his "last straw moment."' I didn't mean to get involved, it's easy to get sucked in—like the gravitational pull of a black hole—but I was the tipping point. But it is going to take months to fix the POV damage done and merge or AfD the numerous POV forks he left behind, impossible for one or two editors alone. Man, before Wikipedia I had no idea that the writing of East Asia's history was so fraught with fridge theories and racism. Taiwanese with crazy irredentist claims, Mongol dynasties re-cast as Chinese national heroes, virulent ethnic hate for Manchus who died out 60+ years ago, and radical Korean nationalists pushing their POV, are big challenges people face when trying to improve Wikipedia's coverage of Asia. NickDupree (talk) 04:19, 5 August 2011 (UTC)

GOCE awards July 2011 drive

 * Thankee kindly. Danger (talk) 01:45, 7 August 2011 (UTC)

Hawaiian Punch.
Hello Danger... Let me tell you that it is very difficult to find anything at Wiki... click here click there... and you have to read pages of stuff... and more clicks... more stuff... wow... but finally I'm glad I can communicate with you. I was shocked when I first read the page... how can someone take credit for something they did not do... Oh well... that's nothing new... As for the Hawaiian Punch page I will correct the promotional stuff. All the people that I mentioned in my edit page have left the Planet but I have a lot of friends that worked with me at John Urie and Associates that are still around... do you need confirmation from those Urie people ??? There's Jack Heiter, animation director, Bob Cutis, producer at Film Roman (Garfield) Don Reidel, editor and many more. Please let me know what's next...

Here's an email that my friend Jack Heiter sent to Jerry Beck of Cartoon Brew... Hi Jerry, According to Wikipidia The Hawaiian Punch character "Punchy" and commercial was designed by Joe Malerba and animated by Jan Svochak. I was at John Uries Studio at the time the commercial was made in late 1961 and I don't know either of these guys. As I remember Bob Guidi and John Urie designed the character and Jean Guy Jacques directed it and Rod Scribner was the animator. I believe it won an art directors award/awards under the banner of John Urie and Associates and was a very successful commercial that John and Jean Guy Produced for many years later. Jan Svochak may have worked on it at one time or another but as far as I know he wasn't involved in the beginning. I can't find anything on Joe Malerba. Jack Heiter.

Dear Jean Guy and Don... (from Jack Heiter) According to my research J.J. Sedelmaier Productions weren't even in business in 1962 when John Urie produced "Punchy", they began their studio in New York in 1990: J. J. Sedelmaier Productions, Inc. is a design and animation studio started by J. J. Sedelmaier and Patrice Sedelmaier in 1990. It produces both print campaigns and animated films in a variety of styles and techniques. The company's talents are also contracted for creative consultation and speaking presentations.

Here is a link to Cartoon Brew for Jan Svochak: http://www.cartoonbrew.com/old-brew/jan-svochak-1926-2006.html

from Buzz Potamkin: I was very saddened to read of Jan’s passing; he was truly a prince among animators. It was more than 30 years ago when I first brought Jan to Perpetual, at the time BBDO took over the Hawaiian Punch account and brought Punchy back to life. (this would put Jan Svochak on the job in the nineties???)

PS. I have a photograph of Peggy Moffitt with her late husband William Claxton. I made a film with them. Potenski (talk) 16:10, 7 August 2011 (UTC)

warning re: 3RR
Re: "You have made three reverts on Republic P-47 Thunderbolt within the last 24 hours. If you revert again by adding the final sentence of the current lead again, you may be blocked without further warning. Danger (talk) 12:47 pm, Today (UTC−5)
 * Please note the talk page, my first revert was due to a profanity-laced edit comment, which then was added again, with slight revisions although a warning was given to the editor and a talk section on the article started. The comments were taken to another admin, but the IP persisted with comments to other editors and the admin. I consider this disruptive and vandalism, not in the realm of 3R reverts. FWiW Bzuk (talk) 18:00, 7 August 2011 (UTC).
 * Just for clarification: You changed content because you didn't like the edit comment? Wow, that's just wrong. --91.10.41.53 (talk) 18:02, 7 August 2011 (UTC)
 * Personal attacks are simply not allowed (period). FWiW Bzuk (talk) 18:03, 7 August 2011 (UTC).
 * What personal comments are you referring to? The one where you called my edits disruptive or the one where you threatened me for trying to fix your mess? --91.10.41.53 (talk) 18:11, 7 August 2011 (UTC)
 * BTW: Just for clarification: You changed content because you didn't like the edit comment? Wow, that's just wrong. --91.10.41.53 (talk) 18:11, 7 August 2011 (UTC)
 * This ends now. Do not argue in my house. Danger (talk) 18:20, 7 August 2011 (UTC)
 * I understand your reasoning, but I don't believe that an inappropriate edit summary is a reason to revert war over an edit that is not obvious vandalism. Disruptive editing is not the same as vandalism. The appropriate thing to do in the case of an inappropriate edit summary is to ask an administrator to RevDel the edit summary. In almost every case, regardless of other circumstances revert warring is not acceptable. Danger (talk) 18:18, 7 August 2011 (UTC)

You are Welcome Mr. Danger
Anyway, no problem with that,,, but the same article was created in the Arabic Wikipedia about Suleiman Obeid (http://ar.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D8%B3%D9%84%D9%8A%D9%85%D8%A7%D9%86_%D8%A7%D9%84%D8%B9%D8%A8%D9%8A%D8%AF) and it has been deleted by the Arabic Wikipedia's admins,, just a few hours ago,, which mean that the person isn't a famous at all. Thanks Sean (talk) 00:34, 8 August 2011 (UTC)
 * The standards for athlete notability on English Wikipedia are quite lax. I know very little about football, so I have little idea whether Obeid technically meets the notability guidelines (in particular, whether the international competitions he's appeared in are "senior" or whether the West Bank Premier League is "fully professional"). I can't read Arabic, so I can't evaluate the reason that the article was deleted there.
 * I may or may not use the honorific "Mr". It is a risk to use it when you do not know the gender of the person you are addressing. Just a thought. --Danger (talk) 03:34, 8 August 2011 (UTC)

Mentoring a theoretical CS article
Hi Danger,

i work on an article on Hindley-Milner Type Inference and might later use some help by a more experienced Wikipedia author. While i believe the article will be OK from point of content, it might not come out in proper Wikipedia style, so to say, for my lack of experience. Its my first Wikipedia article. Since you're the only adopter listed with theoretical CS interests, i write to you, though my questions are not technical, really. The article is not ready yet, and perhaps not worth a closer look, as I've to finish it first and will almost certainly rewrite it along the way. Never the less, i thought it might be a good idea to look for a mentor to ask about balancing of the article, whether to split it etc, early. Thus if you have time and like the topic i would be pleased if you could help in a bit, otherwise, since you know the folks here better, if you could suggest me another one to ask.

(As a note aside, I found you're preference regarding singular "they", which is the common German honorific form when talking to each other, but after reading the related article about this form in English it appears to be only in use today when talking about a third person. I hope they feel not to be addressed too familiar otherwise. ;^)

Kind regards --Cobalt pen (talk) 15:17, 9 August 2011 (UTC)

Complaints division header added by Danger
Re: Edmond Halley. You could've left that 24 hours or so, surely? TNUK (talk) 03:03, 26 August 2011 (UTC)
 * No, I could not. Danger (talk) 03:06, 26 August 2011 (UTC)
 * I suppose I understand, but... it's sad, nonetheless. Still, I've had my fun.TNUK (talk) 05:36, 26 August 2011 (UTC)

Questions about Verified Audit Circulation/speedy deletion
Hello, Danger-

Thanks for objecting to the speedy deletion of my entry for Verified Audit Circulation, which is one of the most prominent companies in circulation auditing.

FYI, I have made some changes to the wording of the entry that will hopefully make its reasons for notability more apparent.

I am fairly new to Wikipedia, so this is the first time that I have had an article named for speedy deletion, and I'm hoping that you would clarify some things about this process.

On my user page, I can still see the blurb that the entry is slated for speedy deletion, but I don't see any longer the notice that speedy deletion has been contested.

Does that mean this article is at risk for speedy deletion still?

Also, when I go to the article itself, I don't see any kind of messages at the head of the article talking about prospective deletion/objection to deletion. Does a speedy deletion blurb not appear with the article itself, or is this a sign that speedy deletion is no longer at issue?

I appreciate any information you can provide--and your support for the entry on Verified Audit Circulation.

Thanks again.

Seandalytx (talk) 16:36, 30 August 2011 (UTC)seandalytx
 * Hi Sean. You can ignore the notice on your talk page. The article is only up for speedy deletion if there is a notice on the article itself. It is possible that in the future someone will propose the article for speedy deletion again, so you may get another notice if that happens.
 * I strongly suggest that you take a look at this page for ideas on how to improve Verified Audit Circulation. If you have any more questions, don't hesitate to ask. Danger (talk) 23:02, 30 August 2011 (UTC)


 * Hi, Danger- Thanks for the information and for the link to the page on citing sources, which I will work in my contributions. I am also searching for more third-party references that would support notability of the Verified entry. Seandalytx (talk) 14:49, 1 September 2011 (UTC)seandalytx

Gorak anush
Hello, … Since  has been delete three times this month (and twice as ), and the author can't seem to take the hint, would you please WP:SALT it? Thnx. Happy Editing! &mdash;  17:01, 28 August 2011 (UTC)
 * Done. Thank you; I should have caught that. Danger (talk) 20:38, 28 August 2011 (UTC)
 * No problem … you would have to either check the authors' talk pages, or else check the logs, for every article you intend to CSD, and that is usually not necessary since the vast majority of them are first-timers … and again, beau coup thanks. :-) &mdash; 71.166.154.41 (talk) 21:47, 28 August 2011 (UTC)
 * Well, I'm supposed to do that but have been lax. Bad entity. --Danger (talk) 22:49, 2 September 2011 (UTC)

A cookie for you!

 * Oh thank you. Chocolate chip is my favorite. Danger (talk) 18:10, 5 September 2011 (UTC)

Parental Advice...
Hi Parent,

If you get a spare min, would you have a peer over my shoulder at [Talk:Optical_Express] it was a COI and I've got involved to try and mediate: I could do with someone checking I'm not being an ass :( Failedwizard (talk) 17:04, 13 September 2011 (UTC)
 * I emphatically think you're not being an ass. If anything, I would be a little more firm with the conflicted contributor(s) regarding what Wikipedia is for (i.e. Dispensing previously published knowledge, not to cater to his employer's PR department.). The article does seem to overemphasize the failings of OE, though I'm more inclined to add more information than to trim what's there. Financials, neutral descriptions of company offerings, that sort of thing. Maybe rearranging some of the text could provide a better context; the proseline is awkward and makes the article seem more like a list of what OE has done wrong. But I didn't look at the conflict in detail, just at your contributions, so I'm not sure how much my opinion is worth. Apologies, real life is very distracting right now.
 * Heh... parent. That's amusing. Good luck. Danger (talk) 22:01, 13 September 2011 (UTC)
 * Thank you! much appreciated :) Failedwizard (talk) 22:53, 13 September 2011 (UTC)

Thank You
Thank you for the warm welcome, I have been a long time reader of wikipedia articles and I finally decided to join with a username of my own. So are you saying that if I simply place this: ( ~ ) at the end of a message in a discussion that it would automatically sign my name so that I don't have to continuously go through the whole process of having to type it all? I'm going to try it here. Bastian (talk) 19:48, 14 September 2011 (UTC)
 * Yep. I like your signature, very understated. --Danger (talk) 20:28, 14 September 2011 (UTC)

Be aware
Be aware that User:Arthur Rubin / Special:Contributions/Arthur Rubin (Arthur Rubin) hides/deletes other's Talk, such as May 19th on User Talk:Zodon http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Zodon&diff=429845197&oldid=429841834 ... on March 30th 2011 it was User talk:Granitethighs http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Granitethighs&diff=prev&oldid=421531277 and User talk:OhanaUnited  http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:OhanaUnited&diff=421531280&oldid=421528249 These are related to Template:Sustainability and Sustainability (and related topics). Not the only cases of recidivism by Art. 99.35.13.81 (talk) 02:34, 15 September 2011 (UTC) Also I've been knocked off-line, DDOS? 99.35.13.81 (talk) 02:35, 15 September 2011 (UTC)
 * I'm sorry, I don't understand what you are talking about. --Danger (talk) 02:41, 15 September 2011 (UTC)
 * The present incarnation of the IP is a IP-hopping semi-vandal (his actions are not intended to harm Wikipedia, but do not serve the purpose of helping Wikipedia, except by accident.) I did remove some of his comments to users, per WP:TALK or WP:CANVASS, as they were not much more constructive than what you see above, and had personal attacks, or were added to a few dozen editors' talk pages.  However, it was pointed out that I shouldn't remove his comments, because I was already in a dispute with him.  I (and about 4 other editors) have "hatted" their comments on some article talk pages, as well, which they frequently edit-war to revert.  You can see some of what I consider their offenses at User talk:Arthur Rubin.
 * Greeting new editors is a good thing, but it's probably best to be sure that they are new. — Arthur Rubin  (talk) 03:11, 15 September 2011 (UTC)
 * I maintain a policy of welcoming any possibly new editors, especially IPs, who make non-vandal edits. I missed the edit (out of ~80), that indicates that the user is not new. Frankly, I don't see the issue here with their behavior. I wasn't aware that editors were required to constrain their editing in order to keep other's watchlists pretty. --Danger (talk) 07:05, 15 September 2011 (UTC)

Genius inc. recreated
You speedy deleted Genius inc.. It has been recreated, perhaps you could delete it again as the new article is identical? --Biker Biker (talk) 08:29, 16 September 2011 (UTC)

Aequoreidae
I've added some data to the article (largerly concerned with polyps). Could you please look through it? Apprehensibility of the text is of particular interest. Mithril (talk) 13:37, 24 September 2011 (UTC)
 * Okay, I think I've gotten it alright, but could you check to make sure I've interpreted everything correctly and haven't changed any facts? Danger (talk) 21:06, 25 September 2011 (UTC)
 * All the facts stayed the same at first glance. Thank you! Mithril (talk) 03:45, 27 September 2011 (UTC)
 * My pleasure, truly. Danger (talk) 05:42, 27 September 2011 (UTC)

Please help fill in annotations at Portal:Contents/Outlines
Please go to Portal:Contents/Outlines' and fill in as many missing annotations as you can, even if it's only one or two. Every little bit helps!

The annotating of the entries on Portal:Contents/Outlines is nearing completion.

Annotated entries look like this:


 * Basketball – team sport in which two teams of five players try to score points by throwing or "shooting" a ball through the top of a basketball hoop while following a set of rules.
 * Canoeing and kayaking – two closely related forms of watercraft paddling, involving manually propelling and navigating specialized boats called canoes and kayaks using a blade that is joined to a shaft, known as a paddle, in the water.
 * Cricket – bat-and-ball team sport, the most popular form played on an oval-shaped outdoor arena known as a cricket field at the centre of which is a rectangular 22-yard (20.12 m) long pitch that is the focus of the game.
 * Martial arts – extensive systems of codified practices and traditions of combat, practiced for a variety of reasons, including self-defense, competition, physical health and fitness, as well as mental and spiritual development.

Entries needing annotations look like this:


 * Industry – 
 * Construction –
 * Architecture –
 * Machines –
 * Industrial machinery –
 * Robotics –
 * Mining –

Even if all you can do is one or two, the support will be greatly felt. Many hands make light work.

Thank you. The Transhumanist 00:28, 7 October 2011 (UTC)

Deutkar ulhas
You asked user:Deutkar ulhas if the user understood the issue about copyright violation. It appears that the user does not as I just reverted another. --Walter Görlitz (talk) 06:11, 8 October 2011 (UTC)
 * Yes. This is a serious problem throughout the India Education Program. Thank you for removing Ulhas' violations; I've had to remove the rest of the students' "contributions" myself. I'm frustrated enough to eat a felt product, perhaps a hat. :) Danger (talk) 06:15, 8 October 2011 (UTC)

Mehboob
Sorry, didn't know. Spidey 665  15:17, 10 October 2011 (UTC)

Unblock
Please refer my talkpage, I have been unjustly blocked since I am on a shared network. I have added the template for unblock, please oblige. Jobin (talk) 08:51, 12 October 2011 (UTC)

Unblock Request from User talk:Smokinswede
Hey Danger, could you take a look at this block from earlier today? You blocked for a username violation (and hardblocked), but cited vandalism as well. I see three edits, none deleted, and the first of those was an article proposal (albiet a misplaced one) that doesn't seem to be disruptive. The other two are unblock requests. The username issue is one thing, and can be reviewed on the merits, but could you doublecheck the vandalism side of it? Thanks much, UltraExactZZ Said~ Did 12:25, 12 October 2011 (UTC)


 * User:Peridon and I think this might be a returning user from a while back - and, as such, we posted a request at WP:AN to see if something turns up. FYI. UltraExactZZ Said~ Did 14:43, 12 October 2011 (UTC)


 * I've undone that block. There was no username violation at all, even if the name meant exactly what you thought it did. On top of that the "discuss" template is usually considered enough to delay all but the most blatant violators from being blocked for at least a week, but you chose to rush to blocking after one day. Terrible block, therefore I undid it without consulting you first. Beeblebrox (talk) 16:05, 12 October 2011 (UTC)


 * It looks like I misread the diff; it is not what I remember it to be. You are right, this was a bad block and I'm very sorry. Thank you for undoing it. --Danger (talk) 18:45, 12 October 2011 (UTC)

And the petty games have begun
Our friend at, later , now appears to be editing from. Compare ip edit and DerAbt edit. Sockpuppeting. --Hammersoft (talk) 12:59, 12 October 2011 (UTC)
 * Sorry. Clearly I need a time-out from the block button, since I've really made a mess of things. Try SPI. Danger (talk) 18:49, 12 October 2011 (UTC)

Block of Gunesh10
Howdy howdy. Your block of placed an autoblock what appears to be a heavily used IP. I've removed it (the autoblock only) and closed unblock requests from, , , , and. I performed a fairly cursory scan to make sure none of them are the same user; it seems like there is a class doing a project? Anyways, I left the list there in case you want to check them yourself or re-activate the autoblock if I've made a mistake. Kuru  (talk)  16:39, 12 October 2011 (UTC)
 * Ah, thank you. I'll make sure not to autoblock the IEP students in the future. --Danger (talk) 18:37, 12 October 2011 (UTC)

Decline of Speedy
You want to expand on the template you left on my page? I can point out the copyright violation in more detail if you couldn't put it together with the duplicate report.  Ol Yeller Talktome 03:10, 17 October 2011 (UTC)
 * Nevermind. I see in the edit summary now.  Please don't template me anymore.  Thanks.   Ol Yeller  Talktome 03:13, 17 October 2011 (UTC)
 * I hate getting templated but I want to apologize. I overreacted.  I'm sorry and want to thank you for doing a great job with copyvio patrolling.  Ol Yeller  Talktome 15:09, 18 October 2011 (UTC)
 * No worries, I hate getting templated too. Danger (talk) 15:13, 18 October 2011 (UTC)

about restoration of my article Data Flow Diagram
Hello Danger, I wanted to know why you restored my edited article by the name Data Flow Diagram to previous. I have not done any type of copyvio and you can check it. I have uploaded images of my personal work only. Also I have posted all the original content into my article. So please re-restore my article or gie me reason asap. Thank you.--Unmeshsphalak (talk) 13:33, 18 October 2011 (UTC)User:Unmeshsphalak.
 * I clearly remember finding a copyvio, and OlYeller found the same. Nonetheless, I can't find it again, so I've restored the article. Please note that it is not your article and that you are expected to provide sources for content that you've added. Danger (talk) 14:35, 18 October 2011 (UTC)
 * I think there's an issue with what you consider your own work. While you've changed much of the phrasing in an already existing text, this still constitute a "close paraphrase".  Additionally, you've obviously recreated the diagrams by drawing them yourself but otherwise, they're the exact same.  While you've done work, I'm not sure that it can be called "your own".
 * I think I might call in Moonriddengirl if she's not busy. She's very knowledgable on copyright violations and where the line is drawn between one's own work and a violation.  Ol Yeller  Talktome 14:51, 18 October 2011 (UTC)
 * Heyy O1Yeller and Danger, You are right but you only say how can I change the semantics of the topic. Also I am not GOD that I will know everything, like every human being I also need sources from where I can get Idea about Data Flow Diagram. Also I am editing the article as a part of WP:IEP. I am a student at COEP who is editing an article, simultaneously I am learning more about it. Also I have added citations to my content from where it has been taken. While I was also going to cite the remaining context also in near time. So please look into the matter and reply the same.--Unmeshsphalak (talk) 15:01, 18 October 2011 (UTC)
 * Also I agree that I have been reverted previously for copy-pasting directly but now have understood, how serious is this issue "copyvio" and have improved the content on my original syntax.--Unmeshsphalak (talk) 15:03, 18 October 2011 (UTC)
 * You do not have to be a god to refrain from copying. We are aware that you are a student; I personally do not care. You do not "write" college level work by minimally rephrasing a single source. I used to do that, then I turned 10 and entered middle school. Try reading several sources about data flow diagrams, then writing without looking at those sources at the same time. See here for more information. This is very serious; if you do it again, you will be blocked and you will not be able to complete your assignment.
 * You also did not "improve the content". What you added to the article was not only not your own work, but it was unreadable. --Danger (talk) 15:09, 18 October 2011 (UTC)

Data flow diagram
Hey Danger. I saw you restored what you had previously removed from the text. I too cannot find the copyvio in the text you removed. I had assumed that you had pulled out the copyvio parts. The copyvio can be found with this duplicate report. It's hard to spot because they've done some crafty word changing like "2-way" to "two way" or "can be tracked" to "are traced" that doesn't show up in the duplicator unless you're reading between the bolds. Do you mind taking a closer look? I can do a section by section analysis but as has been reverted several times for adding blatantly copyrighted material, I'd rather not spend a significant amount of time putting a report together for something that I, no offense, think is very obvious.  Ol Yeller Talktome 14:47, 18 October 2011 (UTC)
 * What a mess. Thanks for taking another look.  The diagrams have been created by the same user but are essentially traced versions from the same source.  I'm not totally sure what to do about those.  I'm attempting to figure out the appropriate action now.  Ol Yeller  Talktome 15:07, 18 October 2011 (UTC)
 * I have no idea what the threshold for originality is for diagrams. Thank you for helping me sort this out; I should have trusted my gut and never restored that. --Danger (talk) 15:11, 18 October 2011 (UTC)

IES & NPP
Hi We  have to accept  that  the CEOs of large engineering  conglomerates have probably  never dirtied their hands on  a lathe or  a turret drill. I've also worked alongside many highly  salaried NGO  organisers who rely  on  donations and voluntary work. Here in Laos and Cambodia, we've had to  tear down schools they  have constructed and rebuild them. Anyway, FWIW, I'm just letting  you  know that  I've had enough  of this IEP  issue. Deleted pages are still being  recreated, or undeleted by  their admins, but I'm  now skipping  all  India related new pages while  I'm  on  patrol -  I  have to  get  back  to development  of  the new 'new user' interface and new page patrol  systems that  I've  committed myself to  helping  the WMF on -  as a voluntary  factory  worker ;) Kudpung กุดผึ้ง (talk) 09:46, 20 October 2011 (UTC)
 * That seems like a smart sanity saving measure. And I hear you on the CEO thing; I think it just irks me more because of Wikimedia's stated philosophies. If a ground-up, all-volunteer organization ends up being run by suits, what hope is there for the workers. Even the idealistic movements muck it up. And don't even get me started on NGOs... --Danger (talk) 10:07, 20 October 2011 (UTC)
 * Suits? Jeans & T-shirts ;)

Thank you
I appreciate the withdrawal and close for Umbrage (film).  Schmidt,  MICHAEL Q. 19:25, 24 October 2011 (UTC)

Please comment on Talk:Ruhollah Khomeini
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Penyulap
Hi Danger, in looking through User:Penyulap's pages, it seems like you had at some point adopted/agreed to mentor him. Right now there is a discussion on going at Administrators'_noticeboard/Incidents concerning some of his recent behavior. Is there any insight you can give? Thanks, only (talk) 22:05, 26 October 2011 (UTC)

Hi
I'd like to invite you Danger, to comment here if you have time. Penyulap  talk 01:20, 27 October 2011 (UTC)