User talk:Danharman

Hello, I'm Materialscientist. I noticed that you recently removed some content without adequately explaining why. In the future, it would be helpful to others if you described your changes to Wikipedia with an accurate edit summary. If this was a mistake, don't worry; the removed content has been restored. If you would like to experiment, please use the sandbox. If you think I made a mistake, or if you have any questions, you can leave me a message on my talk page. Thanks. Materialscientist (talk) 10:42, 18 December 2016 (UTC)

Please do not remove content or templates from pages on Wikipedia without giving a valid reason for the removal in the edit summary. Your content removal does not appear to be constructive and has been reverted. If you only meant to make a test edit, please use the sandbox for that. Thank you. Materialscientist (talk) 08:09, 16 January 2017 (UTC)

Please stop your disruptive editing. If you continue to blank out or remove portions of page content, templates, or other materials from Wikipedia without adequate explanation, you may be blocked from editing. Thank you. Materialscientist (talk) 08:27, 16 January 2017 (UTC)
 * Bold blanking will lead you nowhere (such attempts will be routinely blocked). You must explain why that information is incorrect, and use reliable sources to prove that. Materialscientist (talk) 08:29, 16 January 2017 (UTC)
 * Please be careful with editing, don't rush. We go by reliable sources. Materialscientist (talk) 08:41, 16 January 2017 (UTC)

Thank you for your concern but there is no More reliable source than me, Irena Harman please stop reverting the incorrect information.

Really, why do you keep restoring this post? I've asked for it to be removed completely and your insistence on restoring incorrect information only supports my case. Please stop!

Then allow me to correct the information! Are you some sort of nazi wanting to force your own version of history upon the world? Please, either delete it or allow me to correct it.

Enough, please, the world isn't interested in your crusade to make information about me available. I wouldn't mind, but it's incorrect. You have blocked me from amending it, you've blocked me from Removing it or correcting it and I've had enough. Please, get some fresh air and enjoy the world outside and allow me my privacy.
 * We (on-Wiki administrators) may not delete a page simply because someone wants that. You have to provide a convincing reason to WP:OTRS administrators. Materialscientist (talk) 10:53, 16 January 2017 (UTC)

Thank you, what more convincing reason do you need than the information being incorrect? I have tried to edit the page and you have prevented me from doing so. Please either delete it, or allow me to correct the information, surely it's not that hard?

OTRS and articles for deletion
Hi Danharman. It would appear from your editing that you haven't entirely understood how Wikipedia operates with regards to biographies, so I though I would drop you a note to explain further and hopefully offer you some options that may help you out.

Wikipedia doesn't base its biographical content on the personal knowledge or experiences of the biography's subject or subject's family. Instead, Wikipedia strives to report only information that has already been published in reliable sources. Thus, if a reputable national newspaper publishes a story about Celebrity X's latest award, Wikipedia will probably include that information. If, however, Celebrity X's brother adds the award to the "Celebrity X" article with the edit summary, "I'm X's brother, so I know this is true", it will very quickly be removed.

By the same token, any potentially untrue information about Celebrity X is also quickly removed; if another editor adds a paragraph to the effect that Celebrity X has been arrested for drug possession without a source, this will be deleted from the article as soon as possible. Wikipedia has a very strict set of guidelines regarding biographies for precisely this reason.

In some cases, such as would seem to be the case here, the subject of a biography may not want to be listed on Wikipedia. (I'll be honest, the reverse is usually the case, with people who are not suitable encyclopedia topics listing themselves on a daily basis - but that's another story.) The presence or absence of an article about a person is not dependant on their wishes, but on their notability - basically, if enough reliable sources have published information about a person, that person gets an article, whether they want one or not. However, in cases of borderline notability (which I would judge this to be) we do have a precedent for respecting the wishes of the subject if they ask for the article to be removed. In such cases, the correct course of action is for you to email wikimedia.org, requesting that the article be deleted. You may need to exchange a couple of emails with the OTRS team, but the likely outcome is that the ticket responder will start an Articles for deletion discussion about the page. This will run for a week, during which time other editors will venture their opinion as to whether or not the article should be kept. At the end of the discussion, an administrator will close it and, assuming consensus was to remove it, delete the article.

This is not a guaranteed way to remove an article from Wikipedia - it may be that the community decides the subject is notable and should have a page here. However, if you are representing the article's subject and they do not want this page to be on Wikipedia, this is the correct process to follow. Yunshui 雲 水 09:13, 16 January 2017 (UTC)

Thank you!

I understand the way Wikipedia works, my point is that the information, from various sources is in fact incorrect and it is my desire to remove it.

I'll email Wikimedia and see how we get on.


 * If there's specific information in the article that isn't correct, and you can demonstrate this with sources (that second bit's important!) then you can use the Requested edit process to get editors' attention and hopefully get the page changed. Just leave the template  on the article's talkpage and explain what you want changed and why below it. Yunshui 雲 水  09:30, 16 January 2017 (UTC)

You may be blocked from editing without further warning the next time you vandalize Wikipedia, as you did at Irena Zemanová. Your edits have been automatically marked as vandalism and have been automatically reverted. The following is the log entry regarding this vandalism: Irena Zemanová was changed by Danharman (u) (t) ANN scored at 0.884568 on 2017-01-16T09:39:38+00:00. Thank you. ClueBot NG (talk) 09:39, 16 January 2017 (UTC)

This is not vandalism, it's a request from me, Irena Harman (Zemanová) to stop posting incorrect information. No matter how well intentioned your motives, I have requested that this page be completely removed, that way it will no offend me and no longer be of concern to you.

January 2017
This kind of comment and edit summary is not acceptable on Wikipedia. I appreciate that you are feeling frustrated by this process, but personal attacks directed at other editors are not permitted here, and are likely to result in your account being blocked from editing. Yunshui 雲 水 11:19, 16 January 2017 (UTC)

This is your only warning; if you purposefully and blatantly harass a fellow Wikipedian again, as you did at User:Materialscientist, you may be blocked from editing without further notice. --Mr Fink (talk) 21:20, 16 January 2017 (UTC)