User talk:Danhuynh cs

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Speedy deletion nomination of Computational Narrative


Hello, and welcome to Wikipedia. This is a notice to inform you that a tag has been placed on Computational Narrative requesting that it be speedily deleted from Wikipedia. This has been done under section A3 of the criteria for speedy deletion, because it is an article with no content whatsoever, or whose contents consist only of external links, a "See also" section, book references, category tags, template tags, interwiki links, images, a rephrasing of the title, a question that should have been asked at the help or reference desks, or an attempt to contact the subject of the article. Please see Wikipedia:Stub for our minimum information standards for short articles. Also please note that articles must be on notable subjects and should provide references to reliable sources that verify their content.

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Contested deletion
This article should not be speedy deleted as having no substantive content, because it is part of an assignment within my computer graphics course in university. The work posted is meant to be viewable by my instructors. If the user is removed then I will be unable to complete the assignment. I hope you understand and thank you.
 * Please sign talk page posts with ~ to put signature and time stamp on. Thanks. I deleted your user page, but then restored it. However, I have 'nowikied' the speedy deletion tag. These should only be used when deletion is actually called for. The code is visible to indicate that it is there. Now, as to your assignment - I should like to know what your assignment is. If it is to create a Wikipedia article, we are willing to assist. If, however, as it looks to me, you are using Wikipedia as free web space to host your work for an assignment that isn't intended to be an article, then I advise you to read WP:NOTWEBSPACE. If you need to have work online for assessors to read, then you should be using Facebook, or a web page host like wordpress or weebly, or various other hosting places. Wikipedia is not a free web host. A user's user page is for telling us a bit about the user, and this is a privilege for people actually working on building the encyclopaedia. If you were told to use Wikipedia in this way, please show this message to whoever told you. You can answer me here, as I've placed this page on my watchlist and will know. Peridon (talk) 15:37, 29 September 2016 (UTC)

Reply from danhuynh_cs
Hi Peridon,

In regard to your question about the assignment, yes, the main objective is to create an article that is fit for the community after going through peer review with my other classmates. The reason why I chose to place the content on the user page was because my prior article was quickly deleted. I do plan to create a relevant article with the subject at hand, but my professor seems stubborn and wishes for the content to actually be on wikipedia to be graded, which is why the content so far is sparse.
 * OK. We do get some that don't seem to understand that Wikipedia is a working encyclopaedia and not a test bed... I've moved your user page to User:Danhuynh cs/DRAFT to keep it out of the patrollers' way. In user space, you are safe from speedy deletion except in cases of attack, hoax, copyright violation and advertising/promotion. (On a user page, you can be tagged under U5 for being irrelevant to the purpose of a user page, which is telling us a bit about yourself - without giving a CV (resumé) or being promotional.) You are OK in user space to have half an article, or just a title even, neither of which is permitted in article space. I advise reading WP:GNG about general notability, and WP:RS about the reliable independent sources that are needed to prove it. Do be aware that original research WP:OR is not what Wikipedia is about, although it is often a good thing in academic places. Also, the referencing on Wikipedia is not the same as in academic papers. Wikipedia does not publish the first thing about a subject - we rely on stuff that is already published, and prefer the expert who discovered something not to write about it or cite his own research. Other people can cite his papers so long as they are published. We don't allow reference to anything unpublished or contained in private communications, with the exception of books containing the letters of some noted academic now deceased (as they have now been published...). 'Fred Bloggs told me that...' is a definite no go. I don't know if this has to be your own work in entirety or if help is allowed. It does look a bit as if you are being dropped in at the deep end. Look at other articles to get an idea of layout and style. Have a go at getting something into shape, and I would say to forget about what others are doing unless this is a collaborative thing. Some references may fit various different topics, and they don't have to be unique to an article. (You probably won't have the problem I once had on another site. I was looking online for a reference for something I was posting and found something that really confirmed what I was saying. A few moments thought revealed that this wasn't surprising, as I had written it myself - but not on the site where I had found it. A nice bit of plagiarism, but as I couldn't remember where I had originally posted it, I left well alone (and found something else instead). When you've got something that looks reasonable, I'll get a friend to look at it if you want. Peer review by your class may be all right for class work, but doesn't work here.) Good luck. Peridon (talk) 16:40, 4 October 2016 (UTC)


 * Thank you for your understanding. I agree with your points, and I appreciate your help. I've heard in the past that this assignment was once suppose to be hosted on a blog, but I believe my Prof. chose Wikipedia this time around since they can see what contributions each user has done through their user page. I'll bring up these concerns with him, but in the event that he still wishes to have the content hosted on Wikipedia, I'll try my best to follow the listed guidelines. Thank you again for your help. Danhuynh cs (talk) 18:16, 4 October 2016 (UTC)
 * Please sign talk page posts with ~ to put your sig and the time stamp on. As a draft, it IS on Wikipedia - just in user space not article space. Everything on Wikipedia comes under general or specific rules, even sandboxes. Sometimes I wonder if some 'instructors' have actually edited here themselves - I have come across cases where they obviously hadn't. Other times I wonder if the students are missing the point of what's been said to them. There used to be a place where educational projects could sign up and get a bit more leeway (only a bit...), but I can't remember where it is now. User:Anna Frodesiak would know, if it's needed. Peridon (talk) 18:28, 4 October 2016 (UTC)