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I reverted the edit you made on the popular pages bot. When you copied the text from reality TV, you didn't change the report line It seemed to mess the bot up for this month, as there was no report so I reverted. I looked for a sub page in UStv for popular pages, but didn't see one in I would of just updated the report line for it. Just letting you know so you can set it up properly. WikiVirusC (talk) 23:36, 19 February 2018 (UTC)
 * Sounds like an exceptionally poor design of the bot to allow a single misconfigured entry to shut down reporting entirely. Also, the reason you didn't see the "sub page" for WikiProject Television/American television task force is that the bot creates the "sub page" the first time it runs for a particular WikiProject.  In other words, if the bot hasn't ever run for a particular WikiProject, there is no Popular_pages report.  -- DanielPenfield (talk) 07:13, 20 February 2018 (UTC)
 * Not my design, but I notice the problem. And yeah I figured it never ran, although you can created a blank page for it to fill in the first report, it doesn't really matter. Anyways thanks for the correction. WikiVirusC (talk) 11:09, 20 February 2018 (UTC)
 * OK, I see what happened. The bot ran, but it ran late (according to the "Updated on" column of User:Community Tech bot/Popular pages, it started running six days before you started this discussion), so you assumed having a misconfigured entry stopped it from running.  It appears that the bot does not re-read the config during the ten days it takes to run, so the net effect was that Wikipedia:WikiProject_Television/Reality_television_task_force/Popular_pages was updated twice and WikiProject_Television/American_television_task_force/Popular_pages was not created.  BTW, I mentioned the problem of mistake proofing editing the Wikipage-based config during the refresh of the popular pages report (the original implementation prevented mistakes by allowing config editing only indirectly), but was dismissed.  -- DanielPenfield (talk) 09:54, 24 February 2018 (UTC)

Proposed deletion of Edwin L. Crawford


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First you delete my comment.

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There is currently a discussion at Administrators' noticeboard regarding an issue with which you may have been involved. The thread is Odd archivebox. ansh 666 19:03, 5 April 2018 (UTC)

ClueBot III archive templates
Hi. It appears that the ClueBot III archive templates you inserted in several talk pages weren't properly configured, resulting in the boxes being incorrectly populated. See User talk:ClueBot Commons/Archives/2018/January for details. --Paul_012 (talk) 06:47, 12 January 2018 (UTC)


 * Hi Daniel, did you miss the above? There are still pages with crazy archive indexes, both from back in January (random examples: Talk:Tencent, Talk:Deezer) as well as this month (Talk:Maplin, Talk:Born to Be Wild). I am not competent to bot wrangle and clearing it up is really more your responsibility than anyone else's. Thanks and best wishes Captainllama (talk) 02:42, 29 March 2018 (UTC)
 * I see that you are unfamiliar with the concept of Defensive design. The archive template really should be designed so it can only be used as intended and no other way.  If you design your template in a way that allows users to specify "incorrect" values for parameters or to omit "required" parameters, you really should be blaming yourself, not your users.  Regardless, I've left a request at User talk:ClueBot Commons/Archives/2018/March to create a permanent bot task that detects and attempts to correct omissions of the archiveprefix parameter or inclusion of mw:Help:Magic words in the archiveprefix value.  Note that you could just as easily have made this same request yourself way back when.  -- DanielPenfield (talk) 05:50, 29 March 2018 (UTC)
 * Daniel, you are still configuring archives incorrectly. It's not the responsibility of the designer to go back and fix your mistakes just because you can't be bothered to follow instructions. Literally all you need to do is add "archiveprefix=/Archives/" . Please do this in the future - and please go back and fix all of the broken archive boxes you've created. ansh 666 18:02, 7 April 2018 (UTC)
 * 1. My account name is DanielPenfield, but my name is neither Daniel nor is it Penfield.
 * 2. Where is the proof for your accusation that I am "still configuring archives incorrectly"?
 * 3. It appears that you are correct that simply respecifying  eventually induces ClueBot III to regenerate the index:
 * 4. Since my request for bot assistance was ignored (User_talk:ClueBot Commons/Archives/2018/March), it's going to take me some time to write a script to download my edit history then using that download the content for talk pages I've edited and then search that for ClueBot archiving templates.
 * 5. It's not the responsibility of the designer to go back and fix your mistakes just because you can't be bothered to follow instructions The self-contradictory instructions are just as big a problem as the template that was designed to allow users to make mistakes in the first place.  An even bigger problem is the small-minded attitude that blaming the user for the shortcomings of the User:ClueBot III/ArchiveThis design is somehow going to prevent errors by others in the future—see Defensive design and Poka-yoke.  And that still hasn't addressed the fundamental shortcoming of having to specify an   at all:  The fact that any page moves require the mover to remember to update  —see User_talk:ClueBot Commons/Archives/2018/March -- DanielPenfield (talk) 23:04, 7 April 2018 (UTC)
 * In regards to #2 - did you see the discussion I mentioned lower on your talk page? I went through and spot-checked a few more recent ones, and the archive links are still bad. In regards to #4 - it was ignored because you posted it in a talk page archive. If you want anything to happen please make a request on User talk:ClueBot Commons or ask the creator directly at User talk:Cobi. Thanks, ansh 666 23:17, 7 April 2018 (UTC)
 * I went through and spot-checked a few more recent ones, and the archive links are still bad. Bullshit: , , , ,
 * In regards to #4 - it was ignored because you posted it in a talk page archive. Oh my god, you're a straight up moron:  →  →  -- DanielPenfield (talk) 00:19, 8 April 2018 (UTC)
 * In regards to #4 - it was ignored because you posted it in a talk page archive. Oh my god, you're a straight up moron:  →  →  -- DanielPenfield (talk) 00:19, 8 April 2018 (UTC)

Yeah, I'm an idiot, my bad. The ones I checked were from around March 10th (which was the one at the noticeboard). Consider this resolved then, sorry! ansh 666 00:33, 8 April 2018 (UTC)

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Mike Rowe archive
"unwarranted and gratuitous change"? What? I fixed the archive. The way you set it up created 10 years of archives onto a single archive year called "2015". Jauerbackdude?/dude. 14:07, 24 July 2018 (UTC)
 * You might want to relook at the way you're setting up archives, because that caused the same problems here and here. Jauerbackdude?/dude. 14:10, 24 July 2018 (UTC)
 * I'm not going to start a WP:LAME edit war over something this dumb, but it's amazing how you don't realize your method is wrong. Have a good day. Jauerbackdude?/dude. 14:29, 24 July 2018 (UTC)

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