User talk:Daniel best

January 2009
Hello, and welcome to Wikipedia! I noticed that you recently added a hangon template to an article. In order for an administrator to evaluate whether the article should be speedy deleted or not, we request that you provide reasoning, on the article's talk page, for why it should remain. —Largo Plazo (talk) 02:25, 24 January 2009 (UTC)

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Some idiot deleted the page already? Do you even READ what the pages are about?? This is insane!!!

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Daniel, I'm concerned about this edit. If you disagree with Gwen (or any other admin) and their decisions, take it to any of the appropriate forums I've given you links to. Issuing demands and accusations isn't going to help you get the Simons article on wikipedia one iota. Gwen's already made her call on this article, insulting her won't make a difference. Take it to one of the appropriate forums, and please try and remain civil. It'll help you tremendously here at wikipedia. Dayewalker (talk) 09:01, 24 January 2009 (UTC)

I am being civil. As for the other links - I have no idea how to lodge an appeal against what this 'Gwen' person has done. It's all arbitrary really and I believe I have a right to speak my mind - especially when someone deletes a page because they claim only one reference was cited - which is a lie - and the page was clearly under construction, as was stated on the page itself. I have the feeling that this 'Gwen' person has done this for their own reason and that 'she' will not be going back on it as it might make 'her' look bad.

Not good. More advice on how to appeal this would be appreciated, because the links themselves don't make anything clear at all. I do appreciate the assistance.Daniel best (talk) 09:04, 24 January 2009 (UTC)
 * Okay, for the first pie of advice, calm down about Gwen. As I told you, articles at wikipedia don't need to be in the mainspace while they're still under construction. She probably did what most other admins would do, which is delete an article that's in the wrong space.


 * If you think the article was fine as is and want another opinion on the deletion, make a case at WP:DRV. That's the page for deletion review. If you want to work on the article again and get the sourcing worked out before you put it in the mainspace, then ask an administrator to put the page in your workspace. Any admin can do it. Good luck. Dayewalker (talk) 09:09, 24 January 2009 (UTC)

Cheers mate. The links are vague at best and it's not entirely clear to me as to how to format the response/request for undeletion, but I have done so. I have nothing but contempt for a person who deletes pages from this project before they're finished and without consultation though. Apologies to you if she is a friend, but she might want to simply ask next time before pulling the trigger. I do notice she has a nice, big page devoted to herself, but I can't help but think that she is the one who is "is not inherently notable". I'll wait and see what happens, but this kind of behaviour does not do the Wiki any favours.Daniel best (talk) 09:21, 24 January 2009 (UTC)


 * I don't think you understand Wikipedia. I want to help but I won't if you carry on being so uncivil. Gwen Gale (talk) 10:55, 24 January 2009 (UTC)

You're not helping anyway, unless you consider deleting an entry without reading it or checking it first to be helpful. Fret not 'Gwen', I've blogged this and will make sure as many people I can reach are aware of the insane way you run things. You need to actually go out into the real world and discover how things are done, and you're right - I don't understand the Wikipedia, a place where rules are made at random by people who have zero understanding of the way research, writing and publishing really works.

You want to help? Do the right thing and allow Dave his entry. Anything else is reprehensible.Daniel best (talk) 21:19, 24 January 2009 (UTC)


 * I can't do much under these attacks and threats. I recuse from anything having to do with this user or the topic. Anyone else can handle this, however they see fit. Gwen Gale (talk) 00:38, 25 January 2009 (UTC)
 * Daniel, your continued personal attacks and your attitude towards this entire process really makes it hard for people to help you. I've already pointed you towards DRV, if you feel you have a further issue, might I suggest you go to the administrator's noticeboard? That would be a quick way to be heard by admins. Dayewalker (talk) 00:45, 25 January 2009 (UTC)

This is the issue though - 'Gwen' did absolutely nothing to help in the first place. She never gave any acceptable excuse, other than hide behind policy, and offered no meaningful assistance other than to direct me towards her own page. If 'Gwen' had been more understanding and had actually explained her reasons from the outset none of this would have happened. As it is I can't help but wonder why she is on the Wiki, other than to delete entries without first checking them.

I think I'll allow someone else to post the Simons entry and then I shall edit it to add the proper references - I'm sure that is allowed?Daniel best (talk) 02:47, 25 January 2009 (UTC)


 * As far as I can tell, this was your first contact with Gwen. Please reread that comment (which starts with "WTF?"). It's fairly easy to see how this got sideways, with you starting in with personal attacks immediately. You know what they say, a pinch of sugar is more powerful than a whole page full of calling someone blind and asking them resentful questions.


 * I feel pretty confident that at some point in the future, the article will be placed in your (or someone else's) userspace and fixed up to meet wikipedia standards. I'll help if I can.


 * However, you're going to have to realize that there are ways things are done on wikipedia and getting angry won't help. When you don't understand something, please ask. Don't automatically assume conspiracy. I'll wager you a vial of web-fluid that if you had just asked an admin (even Gwen) to give you a copy of the article to finish adding the sources to, they would have done it. Ask me, ask an admin who works in the comics section, file a request at WP:AN, but please try and resolve the problems peacefully. Everything is easier when we just get along.


 * Good luck! Dayewalker (talk) 03:01, 25 January 2009 (UTC)

Oddly enough I've yet to launch a personal attack against 'Gwen' - seriously. I have a copy of the article in question and together with another we shall attempt, once more, to place Dave on the Wiki where he belongs. I shant be asking 'Gwen' for any assistance, as she has stated, she won't be offering any. I shall protest vigorously though if the entry is again removed without consultation by 'Gwen' or anyone else for that matter.

And I did ask an admin originally. If you check the logs you'll see that I did everything that was asked of me originally, including posting the 'hangon' and 'underconstraction' tags in when the first admin popped by, I even posted an explanation as to what I was doing, which leads me to believe that the other admin merely leapt in and deleted without reading anything related to the entry. Kinda sad really.

What I want is for the entry to be allowed to go ahead, and finished, without it being cut off in mid-sentence, so to speak. Nothing more, nothing less. Sure, a lot of it will reference my own work, that's because I'm the one who did it. Even if it goes under a different name it'll still be my work that's referenced, same as several other Wiki entries reference my work. If it's good enough for them then it's good enough for Dave.

With this in mind I can safely assume that a person cannot work on an entry that relates to themselves, as the Wiki will not recognise them as a valid source?Daniel best (talk) 04:43, 25 January 2009 (UTC)

Ok, have loaded it all in again, with references this time. I trust that's the sort of detail that is required? If not then tell me where the hell am I going wrong.Daniel best (talk) 05:22, 25 January 2009 (UTC)

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i fink u got ur dob wong on da dave simons page —Preceding unsigned comment added by 90.221.51.223 (talk) 21:37, 30 December 2009 (UTC)

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