User talk:Daniellaverick

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Speedy deletion nomination of Vision Apprentices


A tag has been placed on Vision Apprentices, requesting that it be speedily deleted from Wikipedia. This has been done under section G11 of the criteria for speedy deletion, because the page seems to be unambiguous advertising which only promotes a company, product, group, service or person and would need to be fundamentally rewritten in order to become encyclopedic. Please read the guidelines on spam and FAQ/Organizations for more information.

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Vision West Nottinghamshire College
Gooday Daniel, I am Rocknrollmancer

I noticed your changes to Vision West Nottinghamshire College. These would indicate Original Research. Please note that Wikipedia contributions need to be attributed to previously-published sources, often added in the form of in-line citations. The correct name for this college would seem to be West Nottinghamshire College, although there seems to be at least two or three other 'trading styles', including West Nottinghamshire College Group

If you check Vision West Nottinghamshire College page you will see that I've already added prose referring to the Ofsted citation (at #3) quoting West Nottinghamshire College as the official name. If you look here you will see that page 3 of this modern document strongly intimates that Incorporation (autonomy, allowing the college to be run as a business and promoted more) was in 1992 under the name West Nottinghamshire College.

Their Twitter page here and Facebook here both show Vision West Notts, therefore there is a prima facie case for assuming the correct name from at least 1992 was West Nottinghamshire College, with Vision West Nottinghamshire College and Vision West Notts recently-added as trading styles and shortened forms respectively. On that rationale, there needs to be appropriate disambiguation. 'Official' social media pages can often be used to provide secondary evidential citations, but not the 'blog' aspect. I don't have much time presently, but I would request that you cease any further unsupported changes until more info is forthcoming. "It is part of West Nottinghamshire College Group" as added by yourself is commercial practice and may not be acceptable in a lead (intro) section, or even in subsequent sections. At best it's a grey area. "The range of subsidiary companies and brands that we own and run" can be seen elsewhere online. Wikipedia does not allow commercial promotion.

It is also highly-inappropriate for you - as a new editor getting started - to have removed an entire section (#2 "Name") - this may be subsequently tagged as 'Section blanking' and regarded as vandalism, unless I progress matters first. You have also marked the edit as 'minor' which it is NOT.

Wikipedia is not a now-promotion for the current name of a somewhat-commercial organisation. I personally know the currently-used name to be a recent change, but the page needs a chronological history. You have removed this, and the opportunity for future editors to develop the section. As I have personal knowledge, and as I am unconvinced by your recent changes to this page, I am compelled to commit this to record here. Perhaps you could consider these topics more thoroughly, particularly given your obvious commercially-driven connection to the college. There is a convention on Wikipedia of 'don't bite the newbie' but your comment "Corrected information on the name - the previous text wasn't true" may be inappropriate given the evidence I have included, the deletion notice above, and particularly when considering your experiential background, quoted on Linkedin as Marketing Development Manager at West Nottinghamshire College Group and as a lead copywriter. (I have taken screen shots).

Having stated the Wikipedia theoretical avoidance of 'original research', I don't feel it would be objectionable if you could establish a build-date for the Derby Road buildings. I first studied there in 1969, and I don't recall it being particularly 'new'! Looking at the original then-new article here it seems as though the author guessed at "1970s" and it still endured until I changed it to 1960s, remaining equally as vague as the writer himself stated when establishing the article.

I hope I have adequately summarised and that this is of help to you. Please reply to me here (by clicking 'edit' on the section) and adding your text below. Contingent on your response, I will take no further action presently. -- Rocknrollmancer (talk) 04:33, 11 December 2013 (UTC)

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