User talk:Danielyalley

Speedy deletion nomination of Dodekalithon society
Hello Danielyalley,

I wanted to let you know that I just tagged Dodekalithon society for deletion, because the article doesn't clearly say why the subject is important enough to be included in an encyclopedia.

If you feel that the article shouldn't be deleted and want more time to work on it, you can contest this deletion, but please don't remove the speedy deletion tag from the top.

You can leave a note on my talk page if you have questions. TheLongTone (talk) 15:12, 26 March 2015 (UTC)

Hello TheLongTone,

More information can be added to the page but I do not have web citations or other public documents due to the nature of how the organization works. It is my hope that by having a page on Wikipedia others will be able to add more information that includes citations to give a better public understanding of this important organization at Elon University. Thank you. Danielyalley (talk) 12:52, 27 March 2015 (UTC)
 * Of course I realise the problem with sourcing an article on a secret society but if it is truly significant...and I think that significance ghas to extend off-campus...there will be sources.TheLongTone (talk) 13:38, 27 March 2015 (UTC)

Can the page be put back in a temporary way (so I can continue to edit it) to build the case for the significance. This organization has given money and contributions off of campus as well and I can list several that I am aware of and will work to find citations. Showing significance is not difficult - citing everything will be but I would like to continue to work. Danielyalley (talk) 15:54, 27 March 2015 (UTC)

I would specifically like this done in the case of the explanation "Contributors sometimes create pages over several edits, so administrators should avoid deleting a page that appears incomplete too soon after its creation." I would also reference "A7. No indication of importance (individuals, animals, organizations, web content, events) Shortcut: WP:A7 Further information: Wikipedia:Credible claim of significance An article about a real person, individual animal(s), organization, web content or organized event that does not indicate why its subject is important or significant, with the exception of educational institutions.[7] This is distinct from verifiability and reliability of sources, and is a lower standard than notability. This criterion applies only to articles about web content and to articles about people, organizations, and individual animals themselves, not to articles about their books, albums, software, or other creative works. This criterion does not apply to species of animals, only to individual animal(s). The criterion does not apply to any article that makes any credible claim of significance or importance even if the claim is not supported by a reliable source or does not qualify on Wikipedia's notability guidelines. The criterion does apply if the claim of significance or importance given is not credible. If the claim's credibility is unclear, you can improve the article yourself, propose deletion, or list the article at articles for deletion.

Db-a7, Db-person – for people, Db-band – for bands, Db-club – for clubs, societies and groups, Db-inc – for companies, corporations and organizations, Db-web – for websites, Db-animal – for individual animals, Db-event – for events It is irrelevant whether the claim of notability within the article is not sufficient for the notability guidelines. If the claim is credible, the A7 tag can not be applied. Often what seems non-notable to a new page patroller is shown to be notable in a deletion discussion." Danielyalley (talk) 16:01, 27 March 2015 (UTC)
 * Note: I have disabled the db templates above by writing them as db-person etc to provide a link while preventing them expanding all over the page. JohnCD (talk) 16:59, 27 March 2015 (UTC)

Page userfied
I have "userfied" the page for you - moved it to User:Danielyalley/Dodekalithon society where you can work on it.

I have to say that I think the chances of this meeting Wikipedia's standards are very slim indeed. Before you put a lot of work into it, please think hard about Wikipedia's inclusion criterion, WP:Notability, which has to be demonstrated by references showing "significant coverage in reliable sources that are independent of the subject." Significant means more than just listing-type mentions; reliable excludes Facebook, Twitter, blogs, places where anyone can post anything; independent excludes the subject's own website, affiliated ones and anything based on press releases. The test is, have people not connected with the subject thought it significant enough to write substantial comment about? See also WP:Notability (summary). None of the references in the present article are any good for notability.

We often get articles about University clubs and societies, and they are almost never notable, even when not "secret". See College and university article guidelines: "Student life and university traditions articles are generally not notable unless they are sufficiently unusual that they have received significant coverage in reliable sources independent of the university."

I am sorry to be discouraging, but people often invest a lot of time and emotional energy into this sort of article, to no purpose. Please do not post the article again directly into the mainspace; either check with user, the deleting administrator, or click the "Submit" button at the top to send it for independent review.

Here are some other pages that you may find helpful:
 * Introduction to Wikipedia
 * The five pillars of Wikipedia
 * How to edit a page and How to develop articles
 * How to create your first article
 * Simplified Manual of Style

Regards, JohnCD (talk) 16:56, 27 March 2015 (UTC)

June 2019
Hello, I'm GretLomborg. I wanted to let you know that I've blanked one of your drafts (User:Danielyalley/Dodekalithon society) due to your inactivity. If you decide to come back and start editing again, don't fret as the previous contents of the article are still available in the page history. Just click the "Undo" button next to my edit and everything will be back to like it was. If you have any questions, feel free to contact me on my talk page. Thank you. GretLomborg (talk) 20:10, 5 June 2019 (UTC)