User talk:Dannystanton

Joseph clough
A tag has been placed on Joseph clough, requesting that it be speedily deleted from Wikipedia. This has been done under the criteria for speedy deletion, because the article seems to be blatant advertising that only promotes a company, product, group, service or person and would need to be fundamentally rewritten in order to become an encyclopedia article. Please read the general criteria for speedy deletion, particularly item 11, as well as the guidelines on spam.

If you can indicate why the subject of this article is not blatant advertising, you may contest the tagging. To do this, please add  on the top of Joseph clough and leave a note on the article's talk page explaining your position. Please do not remove the speedy deletion tag yourself, but don't hesitate to add information to the article that would help make it encyclopedic, as well as adding any citations from reliable sources to ensure that the article will be verifiable. Feel free to leave a note on my talk page if you have any questions about this. andy (talk) 12:29, 16 June 2008 (UTC)

Speedy deletion of Joseph clough
Thank you for experimenting with Wikipedia. Your test worked, and the page that you created has been or soon will be deleted. Please use the sandbox for any other tests you want to do. Take a look at the welcome page if you would like to learn more about contributing to our encyclopedia.

If you think that this notice was placed here in error, you may contest the deletion by adding  to the top of the page that has been nominated for deletion (just below the existing speedy deletion or "db" tag), coupled with adding a note on the talk page explaining your position, but be aware that once tagged for speedy deletion, if the article meets the criterion it may be deleted without delay. Please do not remove the speedy deletion tag yourself, but don't hesitate to add information to the article that would would render it more in conformance with Wikipedia's policies and guidelines. Lastly, please note that if the article does get deleted, you can contact one of these admins to request that a copy be emailed to you. Toytown Mafia (talk) 15:03, 16 June 2008 (UTC)

Thanks for your note. I had a look at the deleted article and, as you noted, the references are not what they should be in order to meet our requirement for reliable sources. Essentially, the individual's own website and YouTube videos are not considered reliable sources (I didn't view the videos, but that's my suspicion; self-publication does not confer notability), which leaves a single apparently-impartial reference. The entry I read looked very much like advertising (although I believe that was not your intention, from the note you left me), because things like Mr. Clough's "influences" are not really encyclopedic content (you cannot prove any of those assertions by reference to an impartial expert, which is what it all boils down to). I'm prepared to put the deleted content into a "sandbox" page where you can add sources to it and work on it further, if that would be acceptable, but I wanted to make sure that you're aware of the potential that the article will be deleted again unless you can provide considerably more in the way of references, such as the media interviews you spoke of. I just want to ensure that you don't go to a lot of trouble only to meet with disappointment. There is a lot of help that you can access, if you want it; two articles I recommend you start with (other than the links I've provided in this paragraph, which I strongly recommend) are WP:Why was my article deleted? and WP:Your first article. If you want the deleted material in a sandbox page, or if there's something further I can do to help, leave me a note and I'll do whatever I can to help. Accounting4Taste: talk 16:37, 16 June 2008 (UTC)