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Math/Totally disputed section
Thanks for the note. Will get back to you. Rich Farmbrough, 18:50 10 October 2008 (UTC).
 * Fixed. Rich Farmbrough, 18:57 10 October 2008 (UTC).

Leslie Interviews
So, what changes can we make or disclaimers can we provide to put these interviews on Leslie's page? I think they are relevant, and there is some context we can present them in to keep the integrity of wikipedia. --GranReserva7 (talk) 16:35, 16 October 2009 (UTC)

Good call
That one had bothered me, too, but I never got around to doing anything about it. :) --Moonriddengirl (talk) 23:12, 27 October 2009 (UTC)

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 * I have no objection, but you might want to review copyright categorization of its replacement, at File:St.StephensEpiscopalSchoolSeal.jpg, which seems incorrectly tagged as "public domain". (I no longer participate in copyright discussions, which rarely reflect understanding of IP law.) &mdash;Danorton (talk) 14:22, 30 March 2013 (UTC)

Website reference in infobox
Don't get that, the template documentation tells you to add | then text. Since when have we been promoting raw links, we have templates warning against it. Also if its depreciated why does it work and display propely formatted. Blethering  Scot  23:41, 19 December 2013 (UTC)
 * It's an exception to the rule. See my comment at Talk:Apollo_Theatre. &mdash;Danorton (talk) 23:54, 19 December 2013 (UTC)
 * I think I will start an RFC re this at the weekend when i get time. I cant see any reason why this should be an exception to the rule, given we shouldn't be using raw links, when the parameter works fine and the documentation tells you how to. Ive replied there as well. Blethering  Scot  00:01, 20 December 2013 (UTC)
 * Hi sorry, I'm not discussing any more over there as not tolerating the childish behaviour. If ok ill ask you here, whats your opinion on it as personally i think its a bad precedent as raw links are raw links and its highly contradictory, also it looks pretty awful especially for long raw links. I don't see harm in reaffirming consensus either way, what harm does that cause to the wikipedia. Thanks for the links if i go ahead, which i think i will, i will link to them and also notify both of you. Blethering  Scot  00:32, 20 December 2013 (UTC)
 * Also if its truly depreciated why does it still work, and does it tell you in example how to format. Surely that should be sorted. Blethering  Scot  00:33, 20 December 2013 (UTC)
 * You seem to have a different meaning of "deprecated" than do I or does that documentation. (See #3 at deprecated.) But, again, this is a style policy for Infoboxes, which specifies the use of the subtemplate URL and not the policy for the URL subtemplate itself. &mdash;Danorton (talk) 00:41, 20 December 2013 (UTC)
 * You didn't really answer my initial question. Infobox raw links and article raw links are no different and i feel consensus needs firmed up one way or another, do we want raw links or do we wan't formatted ones. I understand the word however if its depreciated then it should be removed as an option and from the documentation, simple as that. No point depreciating something that still works and we are shown clearly how to do. Doesn't help that the theatre infobox documentation was only updated after all this started being discussed today. Blethering  Scot  00:46, 20 December 2013 (UTC)
 * "Infobox raw links and article raw links are no different" Yes, they are, as is clearly explained in the documentation of URL. Andy Mabbett ( Pigsonthewing ); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 13:32, 20 December 2013 (UTC)
 * No it really doesn't. You've been advised to stay away from me. So politely go take a run and jump. Blethering  Scot  17:15, 20 December 2013 (UTC)
 * With apologies to Danorton I have? Where? Andy Mabbett ( Pigsonthewing ); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 17:40, 20 December 2013 (UTC)

This seems like an excellent discussion that should be continued elsewhere. &mdash;Danorton (talk) 16:58, 20 December 2013 (UTC)
 * I agree but I'm not going to be bullied by Pigsonthewing because he thinks he's better than the rest of us. Blethering  Scot  17:15, 20 December 2013 (UTC)
 * I have started a RFC asking (a should full URL's be displayed in info-boxes and (b should parameter 2 be removed out of template URL meaning that it cant display the link as text. The latter was something already under discussion Here. Personally i feel that we shouldn't display raw URL'S but to be honest I'm happy whatever the consensus, but the latter in my opinion should definitely be removed if we should display full URL's. Anyway thats you both notified, as far as I'm concerned thats the end and the community can decide whats best. Goodnight. Blethering  Scot  18:07, 20 December 2013 (UTC)

Chambers County and Galveston Bay
Yes, I was stumped too. I came across it in the article on Shoreacres. I grew up in La Porte and never heard of such a thing. However, it is shown clearly on several maps, including official Texas highway maps and US census maps (such as the one on the Shoreacres article). Apparently, Chambers County has jurisdiction over Trinity Bay (upper Galveston Bay) such that if, for example, one were caught out in a boat committing a crime, it would be up to the Chambers County sheriff and courts to charge and convict you.

La Porte apparently claims no part of the bay within its city limits, but Shoreacres does (probably because of the yacht club) as does Texas City. The southern part of the bay is all in Galveston County, however. But if you look at the map, part of Texas City's claimed city limits extends into the upper part (Trinity Bay), which is jurisdictionally within Chambers County.

I took at look at the Chambers County website and wasn't able to confirm this absolutely, but was satisfied that between the official Texas state highway maps and the federal maps, they must be right. I might note also that I did this little bit of research only after I had edited the Shoreacres page (and its map image on Commons) rather incredulously, and duly had to undo my edits. I edited the Texas City article to make it consistent with Shoreacres and another article, whose name I forget right now, gotta run. Cheers! Laura1822 (talk) 00:00, 1 January 2014 (UTC)


 * Now, that is one cool timestamp, if'n I do say so myself! Happy New Year!  Laura1822 (talk) 00:50, 1 January 2014 (UTC)

Again, Laura1822, will you please cite the references? I don't understand your reference to "the article on Shoreacres." If by "federal maps" you mean the U.S. Census maps, those are not authoritative and specifically qualify themselves as authoritative for census purposes only, and do not necessarily represent political boundaries. &mdash;Danorton (talk) 00:53, 1 January 2014 (UTC)


 * I meant Shoreacres, Texas, of course. The third city was Seabrook, Texas.  If you look at Category:Cities in Chambers County, Texas you'll see these three Harris County cities in the list-- I didn't do that, and almost undid it, before looking into it.  I do agree that a better source is needed;  I assumed at first that the feds had simply gotten it wrong on their census maps (and the citation in the Shoreacres article states "Ohio" so requires further checking).  As I stated above, an official Texas State Highway map was my other source (I also checked a commercial map and asked a 20-year resident, but didn't think any of them were appropriate to cite, though they all agreed).  A definitive answer could probably be had from phoning the county and/or cities, but it might be hard to find another published source citeable here, if something firm can't be dug up on the Chambers County or various city websites.  But in the absence of a published source stating something contrary, I don't see how anyone could justify removing the information.  Therefore I left it intact (or removed my initial edits) and attempted to clarify and harmonize the (preposterous-sounding) information across the three city articles.   Hope this helps.  Laura1822 (talk) 01:13, 1 January 2014 (UTC)

Are you refusing to cite sources? &mdash;Danorton (talk) 02:11, 1 January 2014 (UTC)


 * No, I am refusing to take on the responsibility of removing the work and citations of previous editors without justification. You have challenged me as if I had made the whole thing up, or perhaps you think I should have made a different judgment about the work of previous editors and their citations.  Instead I merely encountered this information somewhat randomly, judged it absurd, started to remove it, questioned my initial judgment, researched it minimally, restored the information, and then did what I could to harmonize the related articles and clarify the problem for future readers and editors.   Oh, yes, and responded cheerfully explaining my actions and motivations when asked about it.


 * If this is insufficient, then take responsibility yourself for researching it in-depth (and producing what you consider sufficient citations), or for removing the information without a published source supporting the removal. Please note that this includes not only the Texas City article, but the other two city articles, templates and categories for Chambers County (and its own article), map descriptions on Commons, Talk page notifications, and possibly other items.  I will copy our exchange to the relevant talk pages, and then I'm done.  Have a nice day.  Laura1822 (talk) 19:11, 1 January 2014 (UTC)

February 2014
You recently reverted an edit I made on Rembert Weakland. Fine, it was meant for somebody who actually knows Wiki code to catch and correct. Your reasoning is funny though; I was merely pointing out that a previous edit lacked citation or relevance - the grounds on which you removed my edit. have another look. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 61.205.209.59 (talk) 00:00, 22 February 2014 (UTC)

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