User talk:Danteferno

Gothic Metal List
I've been observing the debate about gothic-doom and gothic metal. I put a suggestion on the list of gothic metal bands to deal with it. Leyasu will probably fight the idea, but as an outside observer I think that it is a fair compromise. Tell me what you think. I would have put this message on Deathrocker's page, but he just ignores everything I say under the assumption that I am Leyasu.--Fred138 18:38, 13 October 2006 (UTC)

Attention!
If you have inquiries or disagreements about my edits, please only use this board to direct me to the discussion area for said article. Thank you.

Danteferno 11:08, 20 August 2005 (UTC)

Requests for arbitration/Leyasu case closed
A final decision has been reached in this case and it has been closed.

For the Arbitration Committee. --Tony Sidaway 19:31, 7 March 2006 (UTC)

Leyasu
He just got off of a 4 day block for violating probation. If he does this again, then we'll do blocks. I'll keep an eye on it. --Woohookitty(cat scratches) 03:20, 22 March 2006 (UTC)


 * Honestly, I'd put your concerns on AN or AN/I at this point. --Woohookitty(cat scratches) 04:20, 25 March 2006 (UTC)

Archive-1 Archive-2

Association
Dear Danteferno: Hi. I wanted to ask you about a possible Hispanic wikipedians association here on the English wikipedia. The purpose would be to trade assignments with members of other Hispanic countries, so that they would write about a topic pertaining to our country while we write about a topic pertaining to theirs. Like a trade. We would benefit a lot by learning about our history as a whole and having other Latinos learn about our own countries at the same time.

That way also, we would promote unity between our paises hermanos. We could become an example to Hispanics around the world. Unfortunately, some Hispanics do believe we are not brothers, and we can begin with our example to prove them wrong.

What do you think, would you be interested in joining such an association?

Thanks and God bless you!

Your hermano in raza, Antonio Tegucigalpa Martin


 * Dear Dante: As a Hispanic, I feel honored that you have made several of our countries your home and thank you for that. I also want to thank you for your interest in the association. With only a few more votes of approval, it shall be opened. Your invitation to join the future association is still standing. With your travels, I imagine you have gained a lot of knowledge about the society, geography and topography of those countries you have visited and you probably can give us a lot of suggestions as far as topics so we can research those topics and write about them, and viceversa. Thanks so much and God bless you! Your friend, Antonio Planta de locos Martin.

Revert
The time between your two reverts was less than 24 hours. &mdash; 0918 BRIAN &bull; 2006-04-08 17:10
 * People sometimes let 3RR slide simply because it happens a lot. Arbcom rulings do not happen a lot, and they should be correctly enforced. If you were to twice revert again, you would probably be blocked for 4 days, and then for 1 week, as has occurred with Leyasu. Once you realize that you are only satisfying your own instant gratification when you repeatedly revert, then you will realize that reverting makes little sense, because the current state of an article matters little. &mdash; 0918 BRIAN &bull; 2006-04-08 18:26

Assoc. link
Dante: We would be honored to have you check the Association of Hispanic and Latin American writers and become one of our members.

Thanks and God bless you!

Your hermano in raza, Antonio Cocodrilo Martin

Notability tag
I have replaced it. Peter O. (Talk) 03:20, 4 September 2006 (UTC)

Nu metal & death metal
The point isn't whether nu-metal has similarities to death metal. The point is that the sentence at no point claims that Megadeth and Metallica are death metal. Therefore your removal of the genre was unjustified. if we separate the compound sentence we obtain It clearly says "thrash bands like Metallica and Megadeth." I really don't care whether nu-metal has anything in common with death metal. Frankly I don't see the connection either. You misinterpreted the sentence and removed the term "death metal" because you thought it was incorrectly categorizing the two bands as said genre when in fact it wasn't.
 * it also has some sonic similarity with death metal as well as thrash metal bands like Metallica and Megadeth
 * it has some sonic similarity with death metal
 * AND
 * it also has some sonic similarity with thrash metal bands like Metallica and Megadeth
 * Pasajero 12:51, 1 October 2006 (UTC)

Re: How is nu-metal similar to death metal?
As this has been discussed already, I'll try to be simple:


 * As the link shows, a citation has been made by WesleyDodds.
 * Fear Factory are a death metal band often labelled as nu metal, and are a major influence on nu metal. Other death metal bands, such as Sepultura and Slayer, have been cited as influences on nu metal by nu metal bands or musical commentators.
 * Static-X are a nu metal band often labelled as death metal.
 * Korn cite Cannibal Corpse, a death metal band, as an influence.
 * Apart from these links, the sonic similarity between guitar styles (if not musicianship) of nu metal and death metal is very prevalent.

This is not the first time you have tried to remove any mention of "death metal" from the nu metal article, and when one attempt is stopped, you convert to another reason to make the same edit. Your clear bias has no place in the article. --Switch 19:28, 3 October 2006 (UTC)

Metal
I've been away from the wiki for quite a while... would you mind explaining me the general situation concerning Leyasu? --Sn0wflake 02:46, 10 October 2006 (UTC)
 * Considering that one of the reasons I quit the Wikipedia was the stress that moderating this user caused me, I was really surprised he was still around... :\ Well, I am sort of back... and will enforce my admin rights as necessary. I see that it's still the same discussion concerning that "goth-doom" or whatever shit... really, what does that contribute to the articles in question...? But oh well. Thanks for the update, man. --Sn0wflake 03:56, 10 October 2006 (UTC)

Officium Triste
Whats the prob with the notability? They have released three albums of which two on a larger independent label (Displeased Records) should be sufficent per WP:MUSIC. Also they did small tours and played festivals, including the Doom Shall Rise festival in Germany, and Dutch Doom's day in the Netherlands. Spearhead

Leyasu
I agree, one of the reasons I stopped contributing to a lot of metal stuff was that I couldn't be arsed with Ley any more... If you notify me of specific incidents (starting from today onwards, let's not get into the backlog) with diffs I'll flex my admin muscles and get the necessary blocks and protects in place.  Dei zio  talk 13:34, 14 October 2006 (UTC)
 * I've acted on the diffs provided.  Dei zio  talk 10:21, 15 October 2006 (UTC)

Did you remove the semiprotected tag from Diabolique (band)?  Dei zio  talk 13:49, 15 October 2006 (UTC)
 * The tag seems to have vanished, diff seems to think it happened as part of your edit.  Dei zio  talk 13:52, 15 October 2006 (UTC)


 * I've had a word with Cronodevir, and brought it up on the talkpage at WP:HMM. If you want to ask for a WP:RFCU, go ahead.  Dei zio  talk 12:08, 22 October 2006 (UTC)

Well, I think you are probably aware of this from the Tiamat article but it seems to me that Leyasu is back and from the folk metal article, I suspect that the following are all sockpuppets of Leyasu.
 * http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Special:Contributions&target=81.152.216.25
 * http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Special:Contributions&target=81.153.41.223
 * http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Special:Contributions&target=81.155.146.226
 * http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Special:Contributions&target=81.157.66.36

I do not quite know what can be done about this but perhaps you would. --Anarchodin 05:40, 21 November 2006 (UTC)

Deiz
Hey Dante, got an email address? Drop me an email and tell me it using my e-mail this user button, might be able to make your life easier.  Dei zio  talk 19:32, 15 October 2006 (UTC)
 * Actually, doesn't matter. If you notice pages that really need semi-protection, you can help me by a) providing diffs and b) listing the pages in one line of text using the following format: 'articlename1', 'articlename2', etc. eg if you felt Iron Maiden, Burzum and cheese needed protection, write 'Iron Maiden', 'Burzum', 'cheese' and drop it on my talk page and I'll check it out.  Dei zio  talk 12:47, 19 October 2006 (UTC)

protection
Agreed. They had been on the list around a month which is quite standard. I also added them to VOAbotII's watchlist which may or may not make a difference... I know some feel protection is against the spirit of Wikipedia, but banned users using multiple socks to deliberately skew facts is far worse. I've started blocking Ley-a-like accounts on sight. Long term? Not really sure. You'd have to find someone technical and well-versed in Wiki-law (more than me) with at least admin priveliges, probably checkuser priveliges. Not sure which general helpdesk might be able to help... You can also do whois lookups of IP addresses and contact the sysops at wherever they originate from.  Dei zio  talk 11:52, 22 November 2006 (UTC)

What Vandalism?
Just curious what "vandalism" I did for Paradise Lost (band). "(cur) (last) 14:30, 24 November 2006 Danteferno (Talk | contribs) (rv vandalism)"

Protection
I've blocked a bunch of IP socks and protected Diabolique and Tiamat. Wknight94 seems to think that because there is only one problem editor on these pages and their edits are being reverted on sight (usually by you) there isn't a protection problem.. I think it's a failing of the system that a banned user can use a myriad of anonymous IPs and make life hard for regular editors. Keep me posted.  Dei zio  talk 14:55, 25 November 2006 (UTC)


 * It is ridiculous to think there isn't a protection problem. The facts are really simple. The user has been banned from editing on wikipedia. Completely and utterly banned. Hence, this user should not be editing any further on wikipedia. It does not matter whether the edits made have any merits or not. It does not matter whether anyone express a problem with the edits being made. All that matters is that a banned user can continue editing a large number of different pages. It makes a mockery of the whole ban in the first place. What's the point of resolving disputes if people are only going to succeed in ignoring the resolution of those disputes? What's the point of banning people from editing wikipedia when they can so easily ignore and bypass that ban? --Anarchodin 05:34, 26 November 2006 (UTC)

Cronodevir
Hello. I recently noticed a possible Leyasu sock and reported it at WP:SSP. I also noticed that you made a checkuser report which was inconclusive due to the age of Leyasu's edits. I'm asking if maybe you could make a comment at the report I made at WP:SSP to reinforce that I'm not the only user that has been suspicious of Cronodevir. --Wildnox(talk) 00:21, 31 December 2006 (UTC)

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Hello WikiProject Metal member. WikiProject Metal music is important in expanding encyclopedic coverage of the metal. It brings attention to the lesser-known bands, and significantly improves the quality of the famous ones. Five Featured articles and two formers is proof of that. This is the stuff I wish to achieve with the somewhat recently resurrected WikiProject Rock music. I hope to also attract attention to rock music articles of all sorts, and hopefully change some to GA or FA status. I invite you to come join us, and embrace the links between metal and rock music in general. Rock on. -- Reaper  X  04:48, 18 February 2007 (UTC)

Master
I guess you know little about death metal to question Master (US)'s notability. It is one of the first death metal bands. They released some 10 albums (plus Speckmann's (=Master) side projects about 15) and went on several tours. But yea the page can use some work and some references Spearhead 22:13, 4 March 2007 (UTC)


 * it has nothing to do with WP:CIVIL. A click on their official page could have easily revealed that many of their albums were released in Nuclear Blast (which is easily revealed, had you clicked on their linked album, on the seventh day.... Even ten+ albums by a quite forgettable label would make them notable per WP:BAND. You might to at least some research before you condemn. Spearhead 22:42, 4 March 2007 (UTC)


 * maybe you ought to include the expand template instead to indicate your actual meaning. The page as it was, did easily establish their notability per WP:BAND. Anyway, I extended it a bit. Spearhead 23:02, 4 March 2007 (UTC)

Filth!
Hiya. Thanks for trying to add to the Cradle of Filth article, but we've just had a peer review that advised us to scrap the "related artists" section that was there already. So I've erased you! :-) Sorry about that. Cheers, Cardinal Wurzel 19:20, 17 March 2007 (UTC)

Hey Danteferno, Please stop editing my bands page (Severed Savior). The bio which I wrote is NOT copywritten. I don't understand why you insist on putting incorrect information back up on that page. I think I know a little more about my own band's history than you, and copy/pasting a bio that I personally wrote would only be considered copywrite infringement If I complained about it. So please, just leave the page alone. If you want to verify who I am, feel free to message Severed Savior on myspace, or email me at Blaumph@hotmail.com (you can verify that address on www.severedsavior.com in the contacts page). Thanks, -Mike

Reply
I really hear no "core" in DH's sound all I hear is mediocre melodeath. Inhumer 00:41, 15 May 2007 (UTC)

--reply-- ummm excuse me sir, you are wrong about both job for a cowboy and darkest hours genres. JFAC is a death metal band they are not a deathcore band at all. i hear no influences of deathcore, no breakdowns, no hardcore elements. Darkest hour is not a metalcore band. once again no breakdowns, no hardcore element. they are MELODIC DEATH METAL!!.

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AGM/alt metal dispute
You really need to chill out, my friend. No need to be agressive. I'm sorry if my removal offended you. But I didn't meant to attack you. Because I removed one of your edit doesn't mean I attacked you personnaly. So I fail to see what justifies your agressive tone in response. You disagree with my edit? Fine, just restore your edits and let's discuss, until we find an agreement. That's all...No need to be aggressive. that's one of the principles of wikipedia. Besides, ironically, we seem to think about the same concerning the alt bands included in this list...But the thing is we don't have the same solution to handle the situation. Personally I would either delete them, or (as I've done) preserve them temporarilly in the general list(until we find sources legitmate their removal). But I think it useless to create a specific section dedicated to alt metal bands when this article deals exclusively with AVANT-GARDE METAL.Frédérick Duhautpas (talk) 09:53, 27 December 2007 (UTC)


 * "Let's not retort to double standards here: you removed my edit and called it POV. I then called your edit POV, and I am an "aggressor"? Teh."


 * Why? you consider removing an edit and calling it a POV is an agression? Personnaly I don't. And I wasn't complaining of the fact you did the same. As already mentioned in my previous post, I was complaing of YOUR TONE only ...which I still find agressive and cuting, btw.
 * I don't think that my attempts to keep objectivity in that article can be regarded as an act of aggression, no matter you might find my edits as injustified(which can possibly be). I didn't revert them just for the sake of attacking you or bothering you or something... I just did it out of concern for objectivity. So no need to overreact, you're not personnaly a target of mine. Don't mistake your person with your edits. Edits can be judged innapropriate but it doesn't mean that the person who made them is personnally put in question or attacked. Here's my point.
 * Btw,I still think your view is a POV concerning Fantomas. Because Fantomas is widely recognized as an iconic avant-garde metal band. And I have sources about it. I still don't think I'm a agressor just because I qualify part of your view a POV. Frédérick Duhautpas (talk) 15:18, 27 December 2007 (UTC)

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BDM Classification
I see no "consensus," rather, you seem to have been involved in a long and drawn out argument which yielded no results. However, you obviously feel quite strongly about the issue, and probably check the page daily, considering it a personal victory to have the "metalcore" label included, so I am not going to get involved in any sort of edit war. Consider the matter closed, at least from my perspective.Lokri (talk) 11:09, 15 May 2008 (UTC)

Wrong again. You are right in that there were, in fact, editors who did take part in the conversation, but it seems their most              potent contribution involved telling you that you were out of line and warning you to stop your revert/edit war. Throughout that whole thread of conversation, you brought truth to the maxim "It's not about who's right, its about who can be the loudest." You spammed with POV incessantly. And that qualifies as a consensus in your book, apparently.Lokri (talk) 18:44, 15 May 2008 (UTC)

I cited an article in the "discussion" but I have no clever way to say on the actual article "Not Metalcore" and tag it with a reference. And I did page through the discussion and I found no compelling evidence for including metalcore in the genre description other than the fact that the BDM was influenced by hardcore and punk and listed as metalcore by Amazon.com, the foremost experts on metal. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 208.69.215.76 (talk) 00:37, 21 July 2008 (UTC)

Oh wow they made the Amazon.com listing for "Top Metalcore Bands"! Holy crap! I had no idea! They're metalcore for sure! Amazon.com is surely the best source for metal/hardcore classifications! There was even an article cited in the above discussion which refers to the Metal Blade press release which mislabeled the band as metalcore. Your citation is an out-of-context comment ABOUT THE DEMO. Cite an interview where any one of the band members claim that, since the release of their demo, they are metalcore. 208.69.215.76 (talk) 01:01, 21 July 2008 (UTC)

Job for a cowboy
Could you stop adding deathcore into the lead? There most recent genre from their albums is death metal so it should be in the lead. Also deathcore evolved from death metal so theres no reason why it should be in the lead. Thanks Jakisbak (talk) 14:27, 10 August 2008 (UTC)

Black Dahlia
Hey thanks for the full revert. Didn't notice that until now. I appreciate it. FireCrystal (talk) 04:15, 15 May 2009 (UTC)

TBDM
Well then why don't we do that for every page in Wikipedia? Even look at the article for Metallica (featured article). It says they are an American heavy metal band, not an American heavy metal/ thrash metal band. It is already in the genres so it isn't needed. Heavy metal describes what they are as it includes death metal, metalcore, etc. And honestly I don't see how Black Dahlia Murder can be called metalcore anyway because the music is more aggressive than that. cheese (talk) 18:02, 23 August 2009 (UTC)

Ok... honestly? You were the one saying you didn't want an admin to get involved. And I wouldn't create another account just to vandalize you...what is the point? Also, I looked at the IP, the edits were made in May, and I am always editing on my account and can assure you that it wasn't me. I don't remove references either just to let you know. That would be the opposite of what I want to happen...cheese (talk) 13:46, 28 August 2009 (UTC)

Hi...I swear that the IP that got rid of metalcore again was not me. I'm serious. cheese (talk) 00:05, 29 August 2009 (UTC)

Hi again...sorry for all these posts, but you said that the IP 72.220.252.190 was being used by me. I looked it up on IP2Locations and that's not me. Also I'm just wondering...what made you think it was me? cheese (talk) 02:59, 29 August 2009 (UTC)

I don't know who else to ask about this...i think the edits made by liz baker CEO adding a member to TBDM's page are vandalism but i'm not sure. have you heard anything about this? cheese (talk) 02:34, 30 August 2009 (UTC)

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TBDM (again)
The citation for metalcore goes pretty much nowhere, and definitely doesn't say that TBDM is metalcore or anything about them for that matter. Either fix it or it will be deleted. Thanks. yes (talk) 01:01, 19 September 2009 (UTC)

Necrophobic
We don't deal in original research here. Find a reliable source and feel free to include; "reliable" here does not mean "sources that you agree with"... please read the guideline. Blackmetalbaz (talk) 18:09, 8 October 2009 (UTC)
 * On the contrary, if material has been published by an independent, third-party source, then it is considered reliable. This applies to Allmusic and the MusicMight content published before it became user-edited. You have no source that fits WP:RS criteria. I'm unsure how exactly my response was "ironic", by the way. These articles are not my "own personal fiefdom" (a comment that leads me to believe that you should read WP:CIVIL as well), but should be sourced to reliable sources, not "webzines" like deathmetal.org. Blackmetalbaz (talk) 18:53, 8 October 2009 (UTC)
 * Oh, and please feel free to point out dead links and/or remove them... to which were you referring? Blackmetalbaz (talk) 18:55, 8 October 2009 (UTC)
 * 'Ello again. I just wanted to say that I totall agree with you about the whole Carcass being the first melodeath (yuk, horrible term) band thing. The entire melodic death metal page needs serious work, but I just don't have te time at the minute to hunt down necessary sources. I have been concentrating on various list pages, but certainly don't consider them my "personal fiefdom". I'm sorry we've disagreed over this issue, and I do sympathise with much of what you've said... I'll have a bit of a dig for Necrophobic sources. Hopefully we can work together more effectivey in the future. Blackmetalbaz (talk) 10:25, 10 October 2009 (UTC)

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Hi! I see you've recently edited one of the dates in Clash of the Titans (tour), and I wonder - if you have reliable sources to hand - if you could check the whole article, which is full of mutually contradictory dates. Many thanks -- Timberframe (talk) 18:59, 13 January 2010 (UTC)

Ok, I've made sense of it. Sorry to bother you. And thanks for your correction: the bands were indeed "of the 1980s", even though the tour was in the early '90s. -- Timberframe (talk) 19:07, 13 January 2010 (UTC)

Agathodaimon
The link does indeed state "melodic black metal", but not as a genre (you'll note that MusicMight capitalises their genres, whilst we don't). We have a long-running consenus concerning the non-existence of nonsense genrifications like "melodic black metal", "dark metal", "brutal death metal", "extreme symphonic gothic atmospheric metal", "Norwegian weather forcast metal" and the like. The "melodic is quite clearly being used simply as a descriptor in that source. Blackmetalbaz (talk) 21:52, 17 January 2010 (UTC)
 * I believe we were replying at the same time :-) I hope my explanation is clear. For the record, MusicMight doesn't use "melodic black metal" as a genre for Agathodaimon (their genre box is the Categories section; the melodic bit is obviously just an adjective, which is why they don't capitalise it). Consensus is here for future reference, and I don't really appreciate you insinuation that I'm POV-pushing. Blackmetalbaz (talk) 21:59, 17 January 2010 (UTC)
 * Also, while I'm here, there is actually a discussion on the black metal talk page here on this very subject. I find it especially entertaining that the following talk page sections include discussions about "depressive suicidal black metal" and "red and anarchist black metal". Hilarious stuff, obviously :-) Blackmetalbaz (talk) 22:08, 17 January 2010 (UTC)
 * In response to your last comment, find any source stating that "melodic black metal" is a separate genre. It's not just me that hasn't found one, as the AfD discussion amply demonstrates. Blackmetalbaz (talk) 22:11, 17 January 2010 (UTC)
 * Feel free to replace gothic metal with source; I'll have no objection. Melodic black as a supposed subgenre has no source to support it (hence the AfD result of "delete" as cited above; it's also why we have no "melodic black metal" section in the black metal article). This isn't POV-pushing; Agathodaimon are obviously "melodic" in a stylistic sense, but that alone doesn't justify a separate "subgenre". We had similar issues with "bestial black metal", "raw black metal", "war metal" and the like... they all ended up the same way. This sub-sub-sub-sub-genrification of metal is just unhelpful to an encyclopedic exercise. You need a source to justify the existence of the genre to include it. Blackmetalbaz (talk) 22:29, 17 January 2010 (UTC)
 * For the time being, job done? Blackmetalbaz (talk) 22:49, 17 January 2010 (UTC)
 * I think we're still mosting at the same time as each other! Go nuts wth Blabbermouth and the like; we just don't use genres for which we don't have articles, basically. If we have no evidence (i.e. sources talking about the genre as a genre) that a genre exists, then there's literally no point including it in any infobox. Are we good regarding the gothic metal inclusion now? Blackmetalbaz (talk) 22:59, 17 January 2010 (UTC)

Re: Tool/Nu-metal
I have replied to your question at the talk page where the discussion belongs. Rehevkor ✉  01:30, 18 February 2010 (UTC)
 * I didn't reply on the Tool page so you could reply twice. How they're listed on this website bears no relevance here. I have removed Tool from both already as they both use the disputed source. Rehevkor ✉  01:49, 18 February 2010 (UTC)

Articles for deletion/Woodie (rapper) (2nd nomination)
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Response
I have no idea what you are talking about. I have neither wikilawyered you, nor wikistalked you. I have also not removed any sourced material from reliable sources. Furthermore, I have received no warnings from admins, a claim that strikes me as articularly absurd... would you care to point to an edit? Finally, I have never used any other username than this, and the implication is quite probably a WP:CIVIL infraction. Blackmetalbaz (talk) 20:58, 19 December 2010 (UTC)

Re: Banned user
Yeah I remember that user...vaguely. :) I'll take a closer look tomorrow at some point. --User:Woohookitty Disamming fool! 02:25, 20 December 2010 (UTC)
 * Well I took a look. For now, I think what I put on their talk page suffices. Keep me posted. Please. :) --User:Woohookitty Disamming fool! 10:21, 22 December 2010 (UTC)

User:Blackmetalbaz
Any improvement or further issues? --User:Woohookitty Disamming fool! 08:33, 5 January 2011 (UTC)

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Exodus (band) page
Please stop removing citations and putting un-sourced, untrue information into this article. Please refer to Wikipedia's sandbox if you wish to experiment with articles. --Danteferno (talk) 21:55, 17 September 2011 (UTC)

This is not untrue information. I was there at the time. This is Keith Stewart and I was there and witnessed the events that I wrote about. The citation stating that Kirk Hammett named the band after Leon Uris's novel is false. It was Tom Hunting who came up with the name and none of us had any idea there was already a book and a movie with the same name. We had to go look it up in the dictionary to find out what it meant when we got back to rehearsal. Kirk and I originally formed a band with John Marshall (metal Church) (Formerly John Manners) on rythym guitar and Dan Vandenburg on drums. We played songs that Kirk and I co wrote and had several ideas for names for the band.At the same time Tim Agnello who lived a block away from me, had written several songs and I knew he was interested in joining a band and at the time he was playing in the jazz band at Richmond High School with Tom Hunting who was interested in jamming with us also. Kirk Knew Carlton was available to play bass and we all met and played together at my house for several months before the band fell apart due to personal conflicts. Afterwards, Tim and Carlton formed a band of their own and Kirk and Tom continued with the Exodus name while I grouped up with Fred Cotton and formed Darkness. I had left the group months before Kirk ever met Paul and joined the group due to personal conflicts with Tim Agnello and Carlton Melson. BTW, I knew Paul very well and am in many photos during that time between the release of the first album and his later dismissal from the band. Paul and I were very good freinds. Also, Tim Agnello did not join the ministry, he grouped up with Carlton Melson and created a new band and played several shows in the bay area. In fact, they were still together as recently as 1993 although I was told that Tim was fired sometime after that because of his drug addictions.

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Alastis
Irritatingly, I once again need to apologise. The link to the source stating you provided does not state "goth/black metal", but the expanded Allmusic bio does; I will correct your edit appropriately. However, your repeated assertion that I have another username is tiresome and faintly ridiculous. Unless you can find some evidence to back up your assertion, I politely ask you to retract it. Blackmetalbaz (talk) 10:47, 22 January 2012 (UTC)

TheMetallican
FYI I went ahead and filed a report at Sockpuppet investigations/TheMetallican. --IllaZilla (talk) 23:31, 27 September 2012 (UTC)

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