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 * Thanks for the welcome. I'll look forward to making contributions where I can. Daram.G (talk) 03:07, 21 March 2009 (UTC)

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 * Happy editing! 99.50.50.41 (talk) 18:00, 19 March 2009 (UTC)
 * Thank you for your welcoming words! Daram.G (talk) 03:07, 21 March 2009 (UTC)

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Sharp Nintendo TVs
Hi I notice you've been making edits to support the idea that licensed products cannot be considered "clones" of a video game console by definition. I'm not really sure what the exact definition of "clone" is, but the definition at Nintendo Entertainment System seems to support the idea that all in requires is that a third party perform the manufacturing. Indeed, the On-line Dictionary of Computing defined clone as "An exact copy of a product, made legally or illegally, from documentation or by reverse engineering, and usually cheaper" (emphasis added). The Ultimate Console Database's Famiclones section (i.e. the only source that is used on the List of Nintendo Entertainment System hardware clones article) lists both the C1 and the Titler as clones, as well as the Famicom Twin. Is the definition of an NES clone/Famiclone different from the definition of clone for everything else? I'm not sure. At any rate, I don't mind which definition is used, and I don't mind whether or not the Nintendo-licensed Sharp products are classified as clones or not, but to alleviate confusion in the future I believe that a few changes are necessary.

Since you are using a definition for clone that I am unfamiliar with, would you mind slightly modifying the Nintendo Entertainment System hardware clone article to highlight the idea that licensed products are not clones. You might also consider renaming it Unlicensed Nintendo Entertainment System hardware clone and perhaps List of Nintendo Entertainment System hardware clones could be renamed to List of unlicensed Nintendo Entertainment System hardware clones.

Also, I think the definition at Nintendo Entertainment System definitely needs to be changed. As it stands the definition reads: "Although most hardware clones were not produced under license by Nintendo, certain companies were granted licenses to produce NES-compatible devices. The Sharp Corporation produced at least two such clones: the Twin Famicom and the SHARP 19SC111 television. The Twin Famicom was compatible with both Famicom cartridges and Famicom Disk System disks. It was available in two colors (red and black) and used hardwired controllers (as did the original Famicom), but it featured a different case design. The SHARP 19SC111 television was a television which included a built-in Famicom.[35] A similar licensing deal was reached with Hyundai Electronics, who manufactured the system under the name Comboy in the South Korean market. This deal with Hyundai was made necessary because of the South Korean government's wide ban on all Japanese "cultural products", which remained in effect until 1998 and ensured that the only way Japanese products could legally enter the South Korean market was through licensing to a third-party (non-Japanese) distributor (see also Japan–Korea disputes).[36] (emphasis added)

Since this is the definition that confused me so much by directly stating that the Twin Famicom and the SHARP 19SC111 are clones, I think it should be rewritten in the interest of consistency.

Would you mind making some of these changes? Cheers, -Thibbs (talk) 18:27, 1 November 2009 (UTC)


 * Thibbs, thank you for your considerate note, I really appreciate it. I was under the impression that a clone was, by definition, unlicensed, but you have shown that that is not necessarily the case. I have reverted most, if not all, of the changes that I made; if I have missed one, please let me know and I will correct it.


 * As for the portions you pointed out in the NES article, they look okay to me. If it needs a wording change, please go ahead. Daram.G (talk) 23:51, 3 November 2009 (UTC)


 * Oh no problem. Everything looks great now. Thank you. -Thibbs (talk) 06:38, 4 November 2009 (UTC)

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