User talk:Darb8033

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 * Unfortunately, the intent that you described is not appropriate for Wikipedia. It is an encyclopedia, not a yellowpages or a news forum. "A unique, one of a kind product...", that you want "to get the information out to the public" should be advertised on your own webhosting services.   I am not willing to restore this article, as it would be inappropriate for you to write the article yourself.  Rather - you should follow the steps listed at WP:BFAQ.  Regards,   7  22:39, 21 September 2010 (UTC)

Lubricant maker links do not qualify as reliable sources
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 * Hi OhNoitsjamie. I see you posted this on my page, but I'm not sure why.  I didn't add any links, so I'm not sure what is being deleted?  Thank you, Darb8033 (talk) 20:01, 3 February 2011 (UTC)
 * Regardless of which account added the preseed references, they've all been deleted. If other accounts attempt to re-add them, the site will be added to our blacklist. OhNo itsJamie Talk 21:27, 3 February 2011 (UTC)
 * I really do not know what you are talking about. What preseed references are you referring to? And on what page? I nor anyone I know have added any new references to any page, so I have no idea what you are talking about. Please explain, because I'm not trying to do anything wrong.  The only thing I have done is to comment on another administrators page about a reference that was added to the Fertility Lubricants section on the Personal Lubricant page because the reference is incorrect.  Whoever added it changed the title of the study to include a product name, and I just asked to have it changed to the correct title.  But other than that, I haven't added anything.  Darb8033 (talk) 22:49, 3 February 2011 (UTC)
 * , ,, suggest a WP:COI. Your account also appears to be an WP:SPA. Regardless of who originally added the links, all of those articles (and similar others) are now on my watchlist and will be monitored for further advertising. OhNo itsJamie  Talk 14:18, 4 February 2011 (UTC)
 * I see what was changed now. How can you go into those articles and just delete the references? I saw you just deleted them all together in the Semen Analysis, Spermicide, condom, Fertility awareness and semen quality articles.  Those references were not added by me.  When I look back at old versions, I can track the references to 2008 on the Condom article and 2007 on the other articles.  The two examples you showed me where I made a change in September was because I noticed the original link was no longer valid.  The website that was referenced had changed at some point from ingfertilty.com to preseed.com, so I just fixed it so it would work. I didn't change the reference, just fixed the link.  But how can you just go delete valid references that have been there for 4 years that were probably put there by the original authors and were accepted as legit references?  Darb8033 (talk) 16:54, 4 February 2011 (UTC)
 * Links don't get tenure. The heading of this section gives the reason they were removed. OhNo itsJamie  Talk 21:54, 4 February 2011 (UTC)
 * I understand why if you were talking lubrication it might not be valid to cite something from a lube makers website. But these articles you deleted the references from were not about lubrication.  They were artilces that had to do with semen.  And the reason these references are there is because Dr. Ellington is one of the leading experts in the world when it comes to semen and fertility.  She is an internationally recognized scientist in the area of sperm physiology with over 75 publications.  So these references were directed to the website in order to cite her scientific work on the subject which is on that website.  They don't have anything to do with lubrication, and are not promoting a product in any way.  Don't you think it is valid for articles on sperm to have references from one of the worlds leading expercts on sperm?  Darb8033 (talk) 17:34, 7 February 2011 (UTC)
 * They are commercial links, period. If you want to reference journal articles, reference from the journal itself or from pubmed.  Wikipedia is not an advertising vehicle for Preseed, period. OhNo itsJamie  Talk 17:50, 7 February 2011 (UTC)
 * That's fine. Just know that I didn't put those links there and I'm sure those references were included to validate what was written in the article.  Since we are on the subject of commercial links, I noticed something very interesting when I was on the Personal Lubricant page that I ask you look at.  It is Reference 7, which is at the very end of the Fertility Lubricant section on that page.  Not only did they make this a link to their website, they also changed the title of the article by adding their product name to the title.  I subscribe to Fertility and Sterility and have that study right here in front of me.  The title of the study is called "Development of a Novel...".  However, they cited it as "Conceive PLus fertility lubricant, Development of a Novel...".  How can someone get away with changing the name of a study to include their product name?  If you would like to correct it, the actual scientific reference should read:  Kurtz J, Willmer E, Nikolic B, Gupta V. Development of a Novel, Physiologically important calcium and magnesium ion containing non-spermicidal vaginal lubricant. Fertil Steril 2009;92:S212-S213.

Thank you Darb8033 (talk) 23:02, 8 February 2011 (UTC)