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British Australian
I was born and raised for 30 years in Britain, but have lived for the past 7 years in Australia where I now have dual-citizenhsip. My point was that I've experience two non-US (but closely US aligned) western "cultures." Thanks for taking the time to respond to my comment, I'll have another look soon and see if I can make a few more suggestions for balance. --Steve (Slf67)talk 05:35, 8 February 2007 (UTC)

Homeschooling
Welcome to Wikipedia. We invite everyone to contribute constructively to our encyclopedia. Some of your recent edits, such as those you made to Homeschooling, have been considered unhelpful or unconstructive and have been reverted or removed. Please use the sandbox for any test edits you would like to make, and take a look at the welcome page to learn more about contributing to this encyclopedia. Thank you. Darentig 19:14, 9 February 2007 (UTC)

---Which parts did you think were propaganda? I thought, rather, it was completely fair to both sides. You can't sanitize issues by mixing the true concerns of public educators with general concerns. I picked out the two key issues: money and control, which are at the heart of just about every decision made. User:Sweetmoose6


 * As I said, the Criticism section is for listing criticisms. It is completely appropriate to have a section that list the criticisms just an most W articles have if the topic bears it out. I do not agree with any of the criticisms, and I think they're all pretty silly to boot, but it is accepted protocol. Look at it this way, Homeschooling critics actually make themselves look pretty silly, without their criticisms even being answered.
 * The article MUST maintain NPOV, MUST be encyclopedic in character and content, and any additions MUST be citable. We've come too far with this article to start backing down on any of these central Wikipedia tenets. Darentig 16:13, 12 February 2007 (UTC)

Social interaction (from Talk:Homeschooling)
1. :-) I notice you side stepped the issue in an insulting way.
 * How so? You said that children that go to school can't have a substantial family with real parenting?  I find the statement insulting, and have nothing more to say about it.  I wasn't side stepping anything, and my reply was far less insulting than anything you contributed to the talk page today.

2. No, scuba gear doesn't make it easier to breathe everywhere you go; it's only for making it possible to breathe in a certain peculiar circumstance. Likewise, schools don't make it easier to learn; it's what people do whether you place them in an institution or not.
 * The question wasn't about learning. It was about making friends. It's my opinion that the more people you meet, the more likely it is that you'll find people you like. (Yes.  You'll also find more people you dislike.)

3. "Many children around the world have most of their social interactions at school. Yes, there are other places where people can gather and socialize, but many people in recent years aren't as exposed to those places" This is precisely my point. This peculiar "parocialism in time" has given people some rather unbalanced ideas and a miniaturized mindset about life. The reason I didn't "answer what seemed to be a reasonable question" in the way you expect is that a much broader frame of reference in needed by the inquisitor. Darentig 16:38, 14 March 2007 (UTC)
 * I'm still not sure I understand this. What's wrong with saying, "They meet people at Church.  They meet people at the playground.  They meet the children of our own friends."  What broad frame of reference do you need to simply comment about where children might run into peers? At the very least, why not leave the statement, "On the contrary, it is schooled children who are bereft; of a substantial family and real parenting." off your reply completely?


 * What kind of social interaction a child being homeschooled can expect is likely to be a concern for parents who are considering homeschooling, but don't know much about it yet. I would think that would be a question you've heard often, and an answer shouldn't be all that difficult to give.  Not everyone sees the obvious answers.


 * Oh well. It's not worth arguing over. I'm done with this. --Onorem 17:01, 14 March 2007 (UTC)

Thank you for the reply. I understand a little better now. I still think a simple response that may or may not have done any good would have been better than a response that only succeeded in being the vehicle for an insult. --Onorem 15:05, 15 March 2007 (UTC)

Homeschooling
Hi Darentig, I know that you're a frequent contributor to this article, but let's try to avoid an edit war. It's not really appropriate to characterize 's edits as vandalism, though I acknowledge that she is adding unsourced information. Try to work it out on the talk page, and don't set yourself up for a WP:3RR violation. Cheers, OhNo itsJamie Talk 15:47, 11 April 2007 (UTC)


 * Yes, thank you for pointing out the 3RR. Frankly, I am not sure if that characterization is fair or not, which is why I used the term "possible vandalism" and left it at that with no warnings or anything. Frankly, since she re-added the link to her site despite being informed of conflict of interest policy, then started deleting other established links in retaliation, I think that might qualify as vandalism. I appreciate your input though. Darentig 15:55, 11 April 2007 (UTC)
 * Thanks for understanding. In the meantime, she's apparently busy writing a feature article about how I'm a right-wing recontructionist. OhNo itsJamie Talk 16:54, 11 April 2007 (UTC)
 * Uh...yes I saw that. I guess I qualify as a "right winger", but frankly, I have no idea what she is talking about there. Darentig 16:59, 11 April 2007 (UTC)

Sorry, but I'm curious: how are "Homeschoolers can be any type of person" and "statistically, they're mostly religious christians" not inconsistent? I admit that perhaps we shouldn't cut that sentence entirely, but some change must be made. Is there a phrasing you'd find agreeable? Endersdouble 18:53, 10 May 2007 (UTC)
 * The first sentence attempts to encompass the scope of views from which homeschooling is approached. The second focuses in on a statistical "norm" within that broader scope. The two statements are certainly different, but not exclusive, and therefore not inconsistent. Darentig 19:36, 10 May 2007 (UTC)

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