User talk:DaringDonna/Archive 1

Your edits to Bruce Flatt and Talk:Bruce Flatt
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In the same cell
Hello DaringDonna -- I guess there's no harm talking now. The matchmaker already decided we belong together. There's nothing to find, unless Beria is on the committee. Jessica Kline must have done something horrendous to get blocked last year after fifteen or so edits. Perhaps JK was part of one of those big criminal rings. User page said JK identified as a monkey and feminist. I don't see the common element. Julie2016 was only around for a day, but made lots of trouble with some rather witty remarks, and typing on Wales' page. I can see why there was swift condemnation. I just don't know why we are involved, unless it's a matter of engineering an orderly society.

I have to say, no one seems to get the innocent until proven guilty treatment around here. They've taken their lead from the president. "“When you guys put somebody in the car and you're protecting their head, you know, the way you put their hand over, like, don't hit their head and they've just killed somebody. Don't hit their head. I said, you can take the hand away, okay?”" After I was told to shut up and wait for the verdict, then I was pissed. I hope I get over it. Thanks for chiming in. Best wishes to you Rhadow (talk) 06:06, 6 August 2017 (UTC)


 * the truth is, I was amused by the incredibly imbecilic "evidence" used against us/me. My favorite was accusing World's Lamest Critic for "feminist leanings" because he corrected the use of woman to female. But I did get pissed when I saw what time it was when I was finally finished defending myself, and realized that there was no way I was going to be able to watch a movie with my son on Netflix last night, being that it was almost 1am. I guess it was my fault for being so thoroughly obsessed with proving my "innocence." Its crazy how we can get sucked into something that, in the greater scheme of things, is so trivial. After all, when I close my computer, Wikipedia no longer exists. I actually don't think the misuse of power on Wikipedia is connected to "Trumpism." It is an ancient phenomenon, going back to the day the first human (emphasis on man) picked up a rock against his perceived enemy. Its all about power, and that is as old as society itself. Glad to be in this pickle with a smart person like you.  DaringDonna (talk) 16:43, 6 August 2017 (UTC)

Hello Daring Donna -- It will be even more exciting. It appears there's a small but zealous anti-crime division here. It reminds of the line that is often attributed to (but never quoted) Lavrentiy Beria: "Show me the man and I'll find you the crime."

As we sleep, they are chatting away. "'Excellent work. I rarely see such detail from an investigator. ... There is also one other common trait among some of them which you have missed but I prefer not to mention it here because it's only circumstantial at best, but odd nevertheless.'" "'Thanks ... I think you can appreciate how much work goes into building a case like this. Email me the details if you want — I have an eye on several other accounts that I am not yet comfortable including in the investigation.'" Here is what Kudpung already wrote me, "COI and sockpuppet (SPI) CU investigations are not carried out in secret." Nevertheless, these folks are emailing outside the confines of WP. As far as I am concerned, that's secret. Until later. Rhadow (talk) 19:22, 6 August 2017 (UTC)

I think I may know what they are examining more closely. I hate to give it away in such an open forum as this one, but I'm sure it has not escaped the investigators that three of the letters in our user names are the same. Too incredible to be a mere coincidence. DaringDonna (talk) 20:38, 6 August 2017 (UTC)

-- The latest is an accusation of wikilawyering, a pejorative term. In this article, I learned that the party with the shortest post, one with a pithy observation, wins. It's all very depressing. Explaining your position is assumed to be proof you are guilty. I guess we lose that battle. It's the same as the logical fallacy some people believe, "The perp lawyered up; he must be guilty." I am quite sure that this bunch, to a man, are convinced they are doing the right thing. We are unlikely to change anyone's mind.

One of the accusers presents a self-sealing argument. "This editor is very experienced and will cover his tracks."

After what I bet is a week, a CheckUser will find someone guilty, say the case is closed, and not mention anything to you or to me. Our names will remain in the archives of the sockpuppet investigations. There's an old joke about that: This is a little story about four people named Everybody, Somebody, Anybody, and Nobody.

There was an important job to be done and Everybody was sure that Somebody would do it.

Anybody could have done it, but Nobody did it.

Somebody got angry about that because it was Everybody's job.

Everybody thought that Anybody could do it, but Nobody realized that Everybody wouldn't do it.

It ended up that Everybody blamed Somebody when Nobody did what Anybody could have done Have a nice day.Rhadow (talk) 16:36, 7 August 2017 (UTC)

I love that story about Everybody, etc... I wish I had all the time in the world to read entire unreadable discussions about obscure things like "Wikilawyering." "Frankly, my dear, I dont give a damn." I like editing, creating articles about people who should have articles but don't, especially women, and fixing up articles about people and things that interest me. As part of that philosophy, I hate to see even half decent articles that people work hard on and spend their precious time on, getting deleted for arbitrary reasons. I like a good argument, but I don't like being bullied. And that is the a to z of how I feel about all this. Now it is for us to wait and see what the verdict is. I hope I can still edit as Daring Donna, but if not, like I said before, when I close my computer, Wikipedia no longer exists. And I mean that literally. Now I'm going to go watch Wolfpack with my son in law and daughter. I heard it is "awesome." DaringDonna (talk) 17:15, 7 August 2017 (UTC)

, -- What happened to all those accusations? a tale told by an idiot, full of sound and fury, signifying nothing.


 * Yea, I've been editing without a problem. I love your quotes. Have a great weekend. DaringDonna (talk) 14:51, 11 August 2017 (UTC)

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Deletion discussion about Phyllis Campbell Abbott
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Elmidae (talk · contribs) 23:38, 30 June 2019 (UTC)

Thanks for cleaning up the city/town names!
I came to work on it myself and found that you'd already done it. Eitan1989 (talk) 06:51, 19 April 2020 (UTC)

Some of the names were really bizarre. It seems like someone took the Hebrew list of cities and did a Google translate of some of the names. I was happy to set that right. DaringDonna (talk) 18:33, 19 April 2020 (UTC)

That's exactly what I did, then I ran out of time to clean it up before shabbat. Eitan1989 (talk) 08:52, 20 April 2020 (UTC)

Nomination of 2019–2020 United States flu season for deletion
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Isaac Bashevis Singer
So where do you think we stand on this? Looks like a deadlock, leaving the status quo as is. We seem to be 'talked out' but no change and no compromise. What options do we have? Is there some kind of arbitration, in the apparent absence of compromise, or do we just drop it, as seems to be what is happening now? 74.102.210.96 (talk) 18:09, 3 May 2021 (UTC)
 * I disagree with you . There is a very clear desire to add "Jewish" to the first line of the article. I am closing the RfC now and correcting the first line according the agreement of the vast majority of participants in the RfC. Please go read it over again and you will see everyone agrees.DaringDonna (talk) 16:23, 4 May 2021 (UTC)
 * Just saw your response now. Missed it before. (And forgot to sign)

Thanks UClaudius (talk) 13:23, 7 June 2021 (UTC)

Recent edits to Way of the Patriarchs
Greetings DaringDonna!

Thank you for your recent edits to Way of the Patriarchs. As you can see, the articles is filled with [citation needed] tags. I created the article over ten years ago but was never very good at referencing my work. I greatly appreciate people like you who put in the time to improve my amateur efforts.

Kind regards, @Efrat

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