User talk:DarknessShines2/Douglas Leahey

Climatologist tag
Someone who publishes research papers on climatology is, by definition, a climatologist. FellGleaming (talk) 13:26, 11 April 2010 (UTC)
 * That's original research on your part and can't be included without a source that states that he has any qualifications in that field. The source you do cite makes no mention of climatology. Also, I've removed the claim you added about "80 peer-reviewed papers". Neither of the sources cited corroborates that claim. -- ChrisO (talk) 23:47, 11 April 2010 (UTC)

Huh? A climatologist is someone who does research on climate. That's a definition, not a claim that requires a source. I'm not sure what you believe a climatologist needs as a "qualification". Most of the best-known climatologists have degrees in fields such as physics, meteorology, even mathematics and ocmputer science. Take for instance Gavin Schmidt, whose WP bio lists him as a climatologist; his degree is in Mathematics.


 * I added a source for the count of papers. FellGleaming (talk) 01:55, 12 April 2010 (UTC)

Please stop the continued reverts. A climatologist is someone who studies climate. Leahey has not only studied climate, he has published peer-reviewed papers on the topic. There is no "original research" here. FellGleaming (talk) 19:57, 12 April 2010 (UTC)


 * First, you have no source to describe him as a climatologist and none of the sources in the article describe him as such. As I said before, you need to find a source that supports your claim. Second, the source you've added about papers says nothing about them being peer-reviewed. Third, the source refers to papers and presentations, which you omitted. Finally, I've reworded this line to reflect what the source actually says. -- ChrisO (talk) 20:00, 12 April 2010 (UTC)


 * His CV lists papers on wind climatology. Urban Heat Island modelling is climate modelling.   And two of the sources you just deleted pointed to peer-reviewed journals.  The Journal of Applied Meteorology, for example, is a peer reviewed journal.  Papers in it are thus peer reviewed. FellGleaming (talk) 20:07, 12 April 2010 (UTC)
 * Gotta agree with Fellgleaming here, He studies climate, therefore he is a climatologist. From the ESA "Climatology The study of climate - the prevailing atmospheric conditions of humidity, Temperature, winds etc". Seems to me your wrong chris mark nutley (talk) 20:19, 12 April 2010 (UTC)
 * If you want to make claims in a biography of a living person, you need a source to do so. -- ChrisO (talk) 20:28, 12 April 2010 (UTC)
 * The source is in the article. Leahey has authored papers on climatology.  He is therefore a climatologist.  What do you dispute about this?   FellGleaming (talk) 20:32, 12 April 2010 (UTC)

People with PhDs in climatology who write papers on climate and head organizations doing advocacy on climate issues are climatologists. It's quite simple, really.Spoonkymonkey (talk) 23:04, 12 April 2010 (UTC)
 * According to his CV his Ph.D. is in air pollution, not climatology. Anyone can write papers on climate and head organisations doing (denialist) advocacy on climate issues; that doesn't make them climatologists. -- ChrisO (talk) 00:02, 13 April 2010 (UTC)
 * Chris, nearly every climatologist on Wikipedia doesn't have a degree in climatology. Universities have only been granting degrees in climatology for a few years (many still don't).  Most climatologists have degrees in meteorology, atmospheric physics, or even math and computer science.  I already linked you a couple examples of this. 00:11, 13 April 2010 (UTC)

I would have to agree with FellGleaming here ChrisO; climatology has only been a University recognised degree for a few years, and most climatologists have degrees in other areas such as stated above. Air pollution is clearly very closely linked to climatology. Also, the reference provided in relation to the peer-reviewed journals does indeed point to a journal that is peer reviewed and Douglas Leahey was published in. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Samhort (talk • contribs) 22:45, 24 May 2010 (UTC)

Nominated for deletion
This article simply doesn't meet the notability criteria for people. I've therefore nominated it for deletion at Articles for deletion/Douglas Leahey. -- ChrisO (talk) 20:13, 12 April 2010 (UTC)

If you check his CV, many of his papers were published in this journal, which is peer-reviewed: http://www.elsevier.com/wps/find/journaldescription.cws_home/246/description#description