User talk:Darkwind/Archive 3

Nice SKS
Hi, I saw your picture of your heavily modified SKS. I just picked one up and I'm also going to modify it and was wondering if I could ask you a few questions. You can reach me at Gordon.McElroy@usma.edu. Thanks! — Preceding unsigned comment added by 134.240.241.2 (talk) 05:37, 5 June 2011 (UTC)

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A kitten for you!
Ball's in your court

Robinson4ever (talk) 13:36, 28 July 2011 (UTC) 


 * While it seems you've got a sense of humor (and I do too), it doesn't make your additions not-vandalism. *shrug* --Darkwind (talk) 13:39, 28 July 2011 (UTC)

revision changes
Why did you undo my revision? The page is about me & my family. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Mrblackwell67 (talk • contribs) 19:55, 31 July 2011 (UTC)


 * You were apparently randomly rearranging information, leaving section headers behind, putting information below the categories (which is contrary to the manual of style), etc. Also, if you are editing pages about yourself, your family, or a company you own or work for, please see this page about conflicts-of-interest. --Darkwind (talk) 02:04, 1 August 2011 (UTC)

Minute to Win It challenges
Ack, hit the wrong button? How do you manage that? cyberpower (talk) 19:23, 4 August 2011 (UTC)


 * Easy. I was using Lupin's anti-vandal tool, and the "hide" link sometimes ends up right above the "rollback" link - and there's no confirmation on the rollback. My mouse slipped and I hit "rollback" instead of "hide" for your edit. *shrug* --Darkwind (talk) 19:32, 4 August 2011 (UTC)
 * Oh. You don't have to worry about me being a Vandal.  I don't know why your Lupin is seeing me as a vandal.  Perhaps because I am contributing an enormous amount of new data to the page.  BTW, is your template automatic?  I'd love to incorporate it into my account. cyberpower (talk) 19:39, 4 August 2011 (UTC)
 * It's not a perfect tool -- it will sometimes trigger on words contained in the diff even if it's not a word added or removed in that particular edit (i.e. words in the paragraphs surrounding the changes you made). It triggers on all sorts of words phrases that vandals commonly use, so it probably triggered on something like "sit on" or "blow".  As for template, you mean the talkback template?  It's part of Twinkle. --Darkwind (talk) 19:46, 4 August 2011 (UTC)

Sorry About The Arlington Road Disaster
I was trying to fix the page, which had been obviously vandalized (i've seen the film before) but it was overbloated with a cast list where 80% of the film cast list were not anywhere to be found in teh film. Tried to edit it, but it came out badly and wasn't sure how to fix it back. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 208.61.154.57 (talk) 05:08, August 8, 2011


 * If there's a reason you're removing information, that's fine, but you need to fill in the edit summary box, below the editing area, with a description of what you're doing to the article. Otherwise, it looks like you're just taking information out of an article for no reason (and since other Wikipedia editors looking for vandalism only see the parts of the article that changed, we can't tell that you're actually trying to clean it up unless you say so). --Darkwind (talk) 06:00, 8 August 2011 (UTC)

SUL requests
This is to confirm that I request to usurp the username Darkwind on es.wikipedia and nn.wikipedia. &mdash;Darkwind (talk) 05:51, 12 August 2011 (UTC)
 * Request on es.wiki: &mdash;Darkwind (talk) 05:59, 12 August 2011 (UTC)
 * Request on nn.wiki: &mdash;Darkwind (talk) 06:30, 12 August 2011 (UTC)
 * Done on both. &mdash;Darkwind (talk) 21:37, 12 August 2011 (UTC)

highcockalorum
you've rejected my (first ever) update to a Wiki page regarding Highcockalorum. I felt I had some relevant information and clarification (eg as stated the 'rules' are VERY ambiguous -12 per team or total; ref to a room which can, in fact, be an open space; etc; etc. I don't uinderstand what I've done wrong! I cann't even find a route to what I wrote! Can I have a red-penned copy? As a 'newbee' I've even found it difficult to get to this page and i still cann't see how to send it to you but will try 'save'. I've done the 4 tildes as instructed. All not very user friendly! Rennatian (talk) 17:20, 7 August 2011 (UTC)


 * The big issue is that when you make major changes to the existing content of a page, you need to cite a published source that explains those changes. If you're just putting in the rules of the game as you understand them, that's considered original research, and is not allowed in Wikipedia articles.  Wikipedia, like all other encyclopedias, is a tertiary source, which means that articles on Wikipedia summarize information that is already published in other sources, in an encyclopedic fashion.


 * To put it another way, if you just add a bunch of stuff to an article, and don't also add a reference to say where the information comes from, then it looks like you just made it up, and someone's going to remove it. I'm sorry if you feel that's unfriendly &mdash; it's not personal, it's Wikipedia's policy of verifiability. To quote from that policy:
 * The threshold for inclusion in Wikipedia is verifiability, not truth—whether readers can check that material in Wikipedia has already been published by a reliable source, not whether editors think it is true.
 * Please do take the time to read the pages I've linked in my reply here. --Darkwind (talk) 03:53, 8 August 2011 (UTC)

Thanks for your help/advice. Appreciated. I do understand what you are telling me. However, the Wiki article repeats what I think to be the only description on the internet (or anywhere?) of this game. Unfortunately the description is poor and you'd never be able to play the game from the information given. I, on the other hand have played what is undoubtedly the same game and felt I could offer clarification. My source is my brain! So do I give up at this stage? Perhaps it would be more acceptable if what I want to put was all in a footnote rather than an ammendment? Either way can you tell me how to 'get at' what I wrote as I don't seem to have succeeded so far. Thanks in anticipation of more help. Rennatian (talk) 05:39, 8 August 2011 (UTC)


 * Well, to be quite honest, that's about it -- if you didn't get that information from a book/newspaper/website/etc. that you can cite as a source, you can't put it in the article. Anywhere. Way back several years ago, Wikipedia didn't have a verifiability policy or a rule against original research &mdash; and the whole world thought Wikipedia was crap. It's precisely because of the verifiability and related policies that Wikipedia can be taken seriously.  There may be other sites where you can put what you know, like a Wikia devoted to games or something. --Darkwind (talk) 05:55, 8 August 2011 (UTC)

Defeated, almost!
 * I'm finding it quite difficult to accept that 'the system' defends a totally inadequate entry. The subject matter is minor and unimportant, but my hope/believe in Wiki is less so. The original writer of the article (long ago) was unable to 'externalise' himself from what he wrote. His description could easily describe 'n' blokes individually leaping on the backs of their opponents (horses and riders anyone?)- hardly the dangerous game that the RAF banned! It's only when you're told that the supporters are in a single linked line that the opposers pile on top off that the dangers of the game become apparent. Here I give up unless there's an appeal route!??Rennatian (talk) 20:05, 8 August 2011 (UTC)


 * No appeal route? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Rennatian (talk • contribs) 06:41, August 13, 2011 (UTC)


 * About whether you can add your own personal experiences to an article? No. The no original research and verifiability policies are quite quite clear on that. As I quoted above, the official Wikipedia policy is that "the threshold for inclusion in Wikipedia is verifiability, not truth." What that means is that, no matter how true you think (or know) your additions to be, they cannot be included in Wikipedia unless the information can be independently verified by someone else.  The most common way this is proved is by citing a source.


 * You don't have to take my word for all of this; I'm definitely not the final arbiter of all things Wikipedia, I'm just a long-time editor with a good understanding of the policies in place. You're welcome to discuss this on the article's talk page (although, as a low-traffic article, you may not get any responses), or at the Wikipedia help desk, a page monitored by helpful editors who can weigh in on this for you.


 * Also, I do want to mention, in case I haven't already, that this certainly isn't personal. If I came off as rude or difficult to deal with by reversing your changes (or in this discussion), I do apologize. &mdash;Darkwind (talk) 18:44, 13 August 2011 (UTC)

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Re: Your GA nomination of Mobile Suit Gundam SEED
Thanks for the review. Regards.Tintor2 (talk) 10:52, 23 August 2011 (UTC)

Shandi Finnessey
Thanks for the quick review. Could you please finish the procedures for passing an article described at WP:GAC.--TonyTheTiger (T/C/BIO/WP:CHICAGO/WP:FOUR) 03:29, 25 August 2011 (UTC)


 * Oh, goodness, I had the WP:GA page open in a tab and forgot to "save page". &mdash;Darkwind (talk) 03:36, 25 August 2011 (UTC)

Speedy deletion declined: Verified Audit Circulation
Hello Darkwind. I am just letting you know that I declined the speedy deletion of Verified Audit Circulation, a page you tagged for speedy deletion, because of the following concern: The article makes a credible assertion of importance or significance, sufficient to pass A7. Thank you. Danger (talk) 04:27, 28 August 2011 (UTC)

Sequence of inline references using AWB
Hi. At Anne McCaffrey yesterday, do you know the rationale for reordering the sequence of inline references below line 90 (latest revision)? --P64 (talk) 00:15, 1 September 2011 (UTC)


 * AWB automatically reorders references so they appear in numerical order (see the ReorderReferences section at WP:GENFIXES. That page explains a lot of what AWB does.) The specific references in question were originally 39, 15, 13, 40; now they read 13, 15, 39, 40, which makes it easier for readers to find the references in sequence in the reflist. &mdash;Darkwind (talk) 01:23, 1 September 2011 (UTC)
 * Thanks. I have used chronological order in situations like this ("Several times ..."[a][b]...) and I have missed the reordering, evidently. --P64 (talk) 14:53, 1 September 2011 (UTC)

lakota west high school
Matt Ferrall is not a notable alumni from lakota west. It isn't cited and shouldn't be in there. He's a nobody who just put his name in for fun. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 84.11.11.3 (talk) 17:47, 3 September 2011 (UTC)

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How to provide 3O
"Provide third opinions on the disputed article talk pages, not on this page." - from the 3O page. I relisted.--Elvey (talk) 16:14, 14 September 2011 (UTC)


 * Right, that's what I did. I went to Talk:Susan G. Komen for the Cure and couldn't really make sense of what each of you wanted in the article; so I posted a template asking for you to explain your positions concisely so I could understand your disagreement (rather than make assumptions about each of your positions).  I received no response within a couple of days, so I posted a note (which you saw) asking you to re-list if you still needed an opinion.


 * As for your actual request, I'd be happy to weigh in, if I could just get you both to write a short paragraph or so explaining what your disagreement is actually about, and ideally, the actual text each of you wants in the article. I'll place the clarification template back on the article's talk page and we'll see. &mdash;Darkwind (talk) 01:14, 15 September 2011 (UTC)
 * Ah, I see; you did and later removed. My bad.


 * I think the second post I made yesterday to 3O does this: "explaining what your disagreement is actually about, and ideally, the actual text each of you wants in the article."


 * I'm feeling frustrated by your deletion of my comments there. Please take a look at my post to 30 and provide a 3O (or restore my edit and let someone else do so).  --Elvey (talk) 18:41, 15 September 2011 (UTC)


 * It is standard procedure at WP:3O to remove the listing before you provide the opinion, not after you've done it. That prevents duplication of effort (i.e. someone else going through the trouble of reading and understanding the various positions, while another person is also writing up a response).  I think I understand your position -- it is the other editor I'd like to have clarify; however, given the misunderstandings you and I have already had, I think it's better if I just bow out.  I'll put your listing back on the 3O page in a moment. &mdash;Darkwind (talk) 04:29, 16 September 2011 (UTC)


 * Ok, thanks. When I requested the 30, I also provided a few 30's.  I just provided 'em; I didn't query for more info about the various opinions.  But I can see advantages (and disadvantages) of your way.  Thanks for trying.  --Elvey (talk) 19:35, 17 September 2011 (UTC)

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Dear Lord and Father of Mankind
Thank you for your comments on my edit. This was my first attempt and I'm a little confused as to what I should do now - and also where such a comment should go. The question is a serious one. Our Israeli guide pointed out the anomaly and could not understand how this word had got into the hymn. Perhaps my suggestion could in time support an edit of the original text of this well-loved hymn. However my Hebrew is not good enough for me to have the temerity to even suggest that at this stage, so I wanted to pose the question in an open forum.EAnnP (talk) 07:29, 2 October 2011 (UTC)


 * Well, I don't wish to sound unwelcoming... but Wikipedia definitely isn't the place for what you want to do. Wikipedia is an encyclopedia; that is, it aims to be a summary of information that has already been published. Wikipedia is not a forum or a place for publishing or discussing original (or new) thoughts or ideas (you can read more about this by following the link earlier in this sentence).  More specifically, Wikipedia does not allow "original research".  What I would suggest you do is find a religion- or hymnody-oriented discussion forum to discuss your thoughts on the matter with other people who share your interests. &mdash;Darkwind (talk) 08:08, 2 October 2011 (UTC)

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San Francisco meetup at WMF headquarters
Hi Darkwind,

I just wanted to give you a heads-up about the next wiki-meetup happening in SF. It'll be located at our very own Wikimedia Foundation offices, and we'd love it if some local editors who are new to the meetup scene came and got some free lunch with us :) Please sign up on the meetup page if you're interested in attending, and I hope to see you soon! Maryana (WMF) (talk) 22:52, 6 January 2012 (UTC)

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New Page Triage engagement strategy released
Hey guys!

I'm dropping you a note because you filled out the New Page Patrol survey, and indicated you'd be interested in being contacted about follow-up work. This is to notify you that we've finally released both the initial documentation about the project and also the engagement strategy, which sets out how we plan to work with the community on this. Please give both a read, and leave any comments or suggestions you have on the talkpage, on my talkpage, or in my inbox -.

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Eric Franklin article
Please, could you have a look to the article? I have tried to follow your advices. Tell me if there is any other mistake. Thank you. "Sferaviola (talk) 14:16, 8 March 2012 (UTC)"

Evercore Wealth Management
You tagged my post for Evercore Wealth Management for reasons which I do not understand. EWM is one of the largest wealth managers in the United Statesd (Barron's survey 2010), the fastest growing RIA (registered investment advisor) according to Investment News, and the wealth management subsidiary of Evercore, as is mentioned on the parent company's wiki page.

Certainly these reasons justify a page don't you agree? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Halligan96 (talk • contribs) 13:55, 9 March 2012 (UTC)

The version of the article that I tagged for deletion did not mention any of those facts -- the article, at the time, did not say why Evercore is important. If you've updated the article to reflect its importance, great! The admin who reviews the deletion request will see that and not delete the article. &mdash;Darkwind (talk) 04:55, 10 March 2012 (UTC)

Thanks!
Thank you and please correct me if I do something wrong. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Xomanowar (talk • contribs) 20:43, 10 March 2012 (UTC)

Barnstar

 * Aww, thanks! &mdash;Darkwind (talk) 00:48, 12 March 2012 (UTC)

New Page Triage newsletter
Hey all!

Thanks to everyone who attended our first office hours session; the logs can be found here, if you missed it, and we should be holding a second one on Thursday, 22 March 2012 at 18:00 UTC in #wikimedia-office. I hope to see you all there :).

In the meantime, I have greatly expanded the details available at New Page Triage: there's a lot more info about precisely what we're planning. If you have ideas, and they aren't listed there, bring them up and I'll pass them on to the developers for consideration in the second sprint. And if you know anyone who might be interested in contributing, send them there too!

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Wait what did I edit?72.223.39.119 (talk) 19:42, 17 March 2012 (UTC)


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Article about JOSEF HEDINGER
Hello - honestly I am a little bit confused about your comment on the article about Josef Hedinger - of course I can put many more sources to back up this article but I am not sure if they qualify as a "reliable sources". the point here is that we are talking about a singer complitely unknown YET in USA who achieved a huge success as a debut artist overseas in Poland and Indonesia. When a new artist appears in any country the sources to back up his success are TV appearences, live performences during music avards galas, interviews and articles in press, main websites etc. It's impossible to provide sources like quotations from books or anything, what author except press journalist would write in a book about a debuing artist? When it comes to Josef Hedinger and his success in Poland, except that sources that I provide (maybe really to little of them - I'll improve it) I can only provide links to the articles on Polish MAIN websites such as WP.PL or ONET.PL, and tones of other links to the articles about Josef, as well as references to the like 20 articles about Josef Hedinger in Polish press including main weeklies, monthlies and dailys (as. "Tele Tydzien", "Twoj Styl", "Popcorn", "Metro" and many many more) so I am able and I will provide these sources soon. When it comes to Indonesia - it's more complicated here - Indonesian internet is very very poor and limited. Josef Hedinger released his album with Warner Indonesia, he was on a list of artists on Warner Indonesia website, but this website (http://www.warnermusic.co.id/) but this website seems to not exist anymore. I have print screens and scans of about 30 music Indonesian charts of Indonesian radios such as DJ FM, Kiss Fm etc, that shows Josef Hedinger's songs being charted there on top places - BUT I have them phisically on my hard disk, It's not like they are gathered on any website. If you want I can send you all print screens of all Charts (over 50 of them) from both Poland and Indonesia radio and national charts - just please provide me with your e-mail adress. I want an English speaking Wikipedia readers to find out about a great artist, being maybe in front of popularity also in English speaking countries, who achieved a huge success in Poland and Indonesia being complitelly unknown in his homeland - USA. Please advise what should I do - I will improve the article and give as many sources as possible, but it's impossible to give sources like books, encyclopedias etc, it's a young debuting artist who appearde in many TV shows, achieved frist places on many charts was a topic of many articles (NOT reviews, but regular articles and interviews) in Polish press, was one of the participants of INTERNATIONAL SOPOT FESTIVAL (central European big music event) etc. I want English readers to know that. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Wikimyan (talk • contribs) 18:49, 19 March 2012 (UTC)

help triage some feedback
Hey guys.

I appreciate this isn't quite what you signed up for, but I figured as people who are already pretty good at evaluating whether material is useful or not useful through Special:NewPages, you might be interested :). Over the last few months we've been developing the new Article Feedback Tool, which features a free text box. it is imperative that we work out in advance what proportion of feedback is useful or not so we can adjust the design accordingly and not overwhelm you with nonsense.

This is being done through the Feedback Evaluation System (FES), a tool that lets editors run through a stream of comments, selecting their value and viability, so we know what type of design should be promoted or avoided. We're about to start a new round of evaluations, beginning with an office hours session tomorrow at 18:00 UTC. If you'd like to help preemptively kill poor feedback, come along to #wikimedia-office and we'll show you how to use the tool. If you can't make it, send me an email at or drop a note on my talkpage, and I'm happy to give you a quick walkthrough in a one-on-one session :).

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Carlos Castaneda
Hello, Received this notification recently: "Your recent edit to the page Carlos Castaneda with this edit appears to have added incorrect information and has been reverted or removed." signed with your name. Not exactly clear on what has been "reverted" or why. What information did I add or change which you believe to be "incorrect"? Thanks. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 74.92.174.105 (talk) 21:11, 22 March 2012 (UTC)

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A big NPT update
Hey! Big update on what the developers have been working on, and what is coming up:

coding
 * Fixes for the "moved pages do not show up in Special:NewPages" and "pages created from redirects do not show up in Special:NewPages" bugs have been completed and signed off on. Unfortunately we won't be able to integrate them into the existing version, but they will be worked into the Page Triage interface.
 * Coding has been completed on three elements; the API for displaying metadata about the article in the "list view", the ability to keep the "patrol" button visible if you edit an article before patrolling it, and the automatic removal of deleted pages from the queue. All three are awaiting testing but otherwise complete.

All other elements are either undergoing research, or about to have development started. I appreciate this sounds like we've not got through much work, and truthfully we're a bit disappointed with it as well; we thought we'd be going at a faster pace :(. Unfortunately there seems to be some 24-72 hour bug sweeping the San Francisco office at the moment, and at one time or another we've had several devs out of it. It's kind of messed with workflow.

Stuff to look at

We've got a pair of new mockups to comment on that deal with the filtering mechanism; this is a slightly updated mockup of the list view, and this is what the filtering tab is going to look like. All thoughts, comments and suggestions welcome on the NPT talkpage :). I'd also like to thank the people who came to our last two office hours sessions; the logs will be shortly available here.

I've also just heard that the first functional prototype for enwiki will be deployed mid-April! Really, really stoked to see this happening :). We're finding out if we can stick something up a bit sooner on prototype.wiki or something.

I appreciate there may be questions or suggestions where I've said "I'll find out and get back to you" and then, uh. not ;p. I sincerely apologise for that: things have been a bit hectic at this end over the last few weeks. But if you've got anything I've missed, drop me a line and I'll deal with it! Further questions or issues to the usual address. Thanks, Okeyes (WMF) (talk) 17:10, 3 April 2012 (UTC)

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Typoscan is working again
Just in case you haven't been following WikiProject TypoScan, Reedy got this working again. Happy editing! GoingBatty (talk) 01:57, 15 April 2012 (UTC)


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Patrick Denis O'Donnell
In response to your query, I can confirm that the photo of this subject was taken by me from a photo owned by the late Patrick Denis O'Donnell, and under license from his heirs to use in the global commons and for the wikipedia article on him. Seneschally (talk) 22:11, 29 April 2012 (UTC)


 * Thanks for that information, and I see you also added this to the WP:PUF page.


 * However, in regards to photographs, the image is not your own work unless you were the actual photographer who originally took the picture of the subject. Scanning an existing photograph taken by someone else, or taking a picture of a picture someone else took, does not (legally speaking) grant you the right to call the image your own work, nor to publish it under a free use license.  Those rights remain with the original photographer, or with the subject of the photograph (or his heirs) depending on the situation.


 * In order to legally call the image "free use", the copyright holders (which in this case would apparently be the heirs of Mr. O'Donnell) must explicitly license the image under a free use license. To do this, the copyright holder must contact the Wikimedia Foundation and explicitly provide their permission for the image to be released under a free use license. To do this, they need to follow the steps at COM:OTRS.


 * If you cannot contact them or if they are unwilling to do so, the image might still be eligible for use on Wikipedia (but not for uploading to Commons) under a fair use rationale. In that case, you'll need to follow the steps at the FUR page to add a rationale for use to the image page. &mdash;Darkwind (talk) 00:03, 30 April 2012 (UTC)

Mike Jemison
Hello, I am trying to edit part of Mike Jemison's page. There is information that has kept him from some success in his life after his troubles. Please let me know how I can get rid of it. thank you, (1wirenut (talk) 02:29, 1 May 2012 (UTC))


 * For my own reference:
 * Originally, I was going to say that the section in question had sources, and thus would need to stay in place to ensure the article covered all aspects of Mr. Jemison's life in a neutral fashion. However, both of the two links provided as sources were dead links, and there wasn't enough information provided with the references to find replacement sources, so I've removed the whole "Personal" section as unsourced per the biography of living persons policy.


 * Please note that if those claims were indeed factually accurate, it is entirely possible that someone will readd the material in the future with new, reliable sources. If that happens, as long as the material is written to accurately reflect the content of the sources, it is likely that we (as a community) would be unable to remove the material at that point. &mdash;Darkwind (talk) 05:29, 1 May 2012 (UTC)

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New Pages update
Hey :). A quick update on how things are going with the New Page Triage/New Pages Feed project. As the enwiki page notes, the project is divided into two chunks: the "list view" (essentially an updated version of Special:NewPages) and the "article view", a view you'll be presented with when you open up individual articles that contains a toolbar with lots of options to interact with the page - patrolling it, adding maintenance tags, nominating it for deletion, so on.

On the list view front, we're pretty much done! We tried deploying it to enwiki, in line with our Engagement Strategy on Wednesday, but ran into bugs and had to reschedule - the same happened on Thursday :(. We've queued a new deployment for Monday PST, and hopefully that one will go better. If it does, the software will be ready to play around with and test by the following week! :).

On the article view front, the developers are doing some fantastic work designing the toolbar, which we're calling the "curation bar"; you can see a mockup here. A stripped-down version of this should be ready to deploy fairly soon after the list view is; I'm afraid I don't have precise dates yet. When I have more info, or can unleash everyone to test the list view, I'll let you know :). As always, any questions to the talkpage for the project or mine. Thanks! Okeyes (WMF) (talk) 23:28, 5 May 2012 (UTC)

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That's fine. Thanks for the heads up.Hoops gza (talk) 03:01, 13 May 2012 (UTC)

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Page Triage newsletter
Hey all. Some quick but important updates on what we've been up to and what's coming up next :).

The curation toolbar, our Wikimedia-supported twinkle replacement. We're going to be deploying it, along with a pile of bugfixes, to wikipedia on 9 August. After a few days to check it doesn't make anything explode or die, we'll be sticking up a big notice and sending out an additional newsletter inviting people to test it out and give us feedback :). This will be followed by two office hours sessions - one on Tuesday the 14th of August at 19:00 UTC for all us Europeans, and one on Wednesday the 15th at 23:00 UTC for the East Coasters out there :). As always, these will be held in #wikimedia-office; drop me a note if you want to know how to easily get on IRC, or if you aren't able to attend but would like the logs.

I hope to see a lot of you there; it's going to be a big day for everyone involved, I think :). I'll have more notes after the deployment! Okeyes (WMF) (talk) 20:01, 3 August 2012 (UTC)

Nomination of Anthropophilia in animals‎ for deletion
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New Pages newsletter
Hey all :)

A couple of new things.

First, you'll note that all the project titles have now changed to the Page Curation prefix, rather than having the New Pages Feed prefix. This is because the overarching project name has changed to Page Curation; the feed is still known as New Pages Feed, and the Curation Toolbar is still the Curation Toolbar. Hopefully this will be the last namechange ;p.

On the subject of the Curation Toolbar (nice segue, Oliver!) - it's now deployed on Wikipedia. Just open up any article in the New Pages Feed and it should appear on the right. It's still a beta version - bugs are expected - and we've got a lot more work to do. But if you see something going wrong, or a feature missing, drop me a note or post on the project talkpage and I'll be happy to help :). We'll be holding two office hours sessions to discuss the tool and improvements to it; the first is at 19:00 UTC on 14 August, and the second at 23:00 on the 15th. Both will be in #wikimedia-office as always. Thanks! Okeyes (WMF) (talk) 15:40, 10 August 2012 (UTC)

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