User talk:Darkyto330

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I hope you enjoy editing here and being a Wikipedian! Again, welcome! microbiology Marcus (petri dish·growths) 14:53, 28 December 2023 (UTC)


 * Hi Darkyto330, a little bit of a more personal message than the template: I've removed your article because it did not cite any sources and did not attempt to demonstrate notability. Fret not, your work isn't lost. It's preserved in the edit history. I've taken the liberty of saving it for your in your sandbox here: User:Darkyto330/sandbox. Have a look at some of our policies regarding WP:Notability and WP:Citing sources. You might find WP:REFB helpful as well.
 * All the best, microbiology Marcus (petri dish·growths) 14:57, 28 December 2023 (UTC)

December 2023
Hello Darkyto330. The nature of your edits, such as the one you made to Fiddler (software), gives the impression you have an undisclosed financial stake in promoting a topic, but you have not complied with Wikipedia's mandatory paid editing disclosure requirements. Paid advocacy is a category of conflict of interest (COI) editing that involves being compensated by a person, group, company or organization to use Wikipedia to promote their interests. Undisclosed paid advocacy is prohibited by our policies on neutral point of view and what Wikipedia is not, and is an especially serious type of COI; the Wikimedia Foundation regards it as a "black hat" practice akin to black-hat search-engine optimization.

Paid advocates are strongly discouraged from direct article editing, and should instead propose changes on the talk page of the article in question if an article exists. If the article does not exist, paid advocates are strongly discouraged from attempting to write an article at all. At best, any proposed article creation should be submitted through the articles for creation process, rather than directly.

Regardless, if you are receiving or expect to receive compensation for your edits, broadly construed, you are  required by the Wikimedia Terms of Use to disclose your employer, client and affiliation. You can post such a mandatory disclosure to your user page at User:Darkyto330. The template Paid can be used for this purpose – e.g. in the form:. If I am mistaken – you are not being directly or indirectly compensated for your edits – please state that in response to this message. Otherwise, please provide the required disclosure. In either case, do not edit further until you answer this message. Annh07 (talk) 11:36, 29 December 2023 (UTC)


 * Hello Annh007,
 * Thank you for your prompt response! It's my first time as an editor in Wikipedia, and I am still not entirely familiar with the processes, so I appreciate your feedback and the provided details.
 * I can confirm that I am affiliated with the Fiddler team, and as such, I receive a payroll from the company that owns the product. However, my sole idea is to update the content of a page that was redirected years ago and no longer provides the proper information. The information I provide aims to offer short, structured technical details about what Fiddler (software) stands for. I've used other Wikipedia pages for similar products as inspiration.
 * As requested, I've added the paid template to my Wiki user page (User:Darkyto330). Please let me know if that is sufficient so that I can proceed and publish the page's edit. Darkyto330 (talk) 12:38, 29 December 2023 (UTC)
 * Thanks for your feedback. Because you work for an organization, you should not directly edit an article about your organization. This is because you have a conflict of interest with the organization. Please read WP:COI.
 * You should instead create a draft (please use the Article Wizard) then submit it to the AfC. Annh07 (talk) 14:23, 29 December 2023 (UTC)
 * Hello Annh07,
 * Thanks once again for the shared details! I've created a draft, but I am unsure what the next steps should be and how this will affect the original Fiddler page. Our end goal is to recover the original page while providing updated information (as the last edit before the page was replaced with a redirect link was from years ago). Please let me know if there is something else I should do after posting the drafted article. Darkyto330 (talk) 13:23, 1 January 2024 (UTC)
 * If you've created a draft, submit it for review by clicking the "submit draft for review" button. Annh07 (talk) 13:32, 1 January 2024 (UTC)
 * I understand that policies must be followed, but I am now unsure on how the Fiddler page can be restored at all? My last draft was not only rejected by also deleted through a speed deletion procedure!?
 * Can you please let us know on what is the procedure so that we can create a draft that won't be rejected. All we want to achieve is to restore the Fiddler page (which is now redirected to an obsolete page with old and not relevant content), so that the community can know what Fiddler (as a software tool) stands for. Our tool is present for more than 20 years (we recently have a 20th anniversary) and it will benefit all including Wikipedia to have an informative page that briefly explains what is Fiddler, who stands behind it and what it is used for.
 * Please let us know what is the best way to resolve the issue so that we can post a draft that can be approved and will stand up to the Wikipedia standards. Darkyto330 (talk) 15:09, 22 January 2024 (UTC)

Your submission at Articles for creation: Fiddler (software) (January 1)
 Your recent article submission to Articles for Creation has been reviewed. Unfortunately, it has not been accepted at this time. The reason left by DoubleGrazing was:

The comment the reviewer left was:

Please check the submission for any additional comments left by the reviewer. You are encouraged to edit the submission to address the issues raised and resubmit after they have been resolved.


 * If you would like to continue working on the submission, go to Draft:Fiddler (software) and click on the "Edit" tab at the top of the window.
 * If you do not edit your draft in the next 6 months, it will be considered abandoned and may be deleted.
 * If you need any assistance, or have experienced any untoward behavior associated with this submission, you can ask for help at the [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:WikiProject_Articles_for_creation/Help_desk/New_question&withJS=MediaWiki:AFCHD-wizard.js&page=Draft:Fiddler_(software) Articles for creation help desk], on the [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:DoubleGrazing&action=edit&section=new&nosummary=1&preload=Template:AfC_decline/HD_preload&preloadparams%5B%5D=Draft:Fiddler_(software) reviewer's talk page] or use Wikipedia's real-time chat help from experienced editors.

DoubleGrazing (talk) 14:13, 1 January 2024 (UTC)


 * Hello DoubleGrazing,
 * I understand that policies must be followed, but I am now unsure on how the Fiddler page can be restored at all? Can you please let us know on what is the procedure so that we can create a draft that won't be rejected. All we want to achieve is to restore the Fiddler page (which is now redirected to an obsolete page with old and not relevant content), so that the community can know what Fiddler (as a software tool) stands for. Our tool is present for more than 20 years (we recently have a 20th anniversary) and it will benefit all including Wikipedia to have an informative page that briefly explains what is Fiddler, who stands behind it and what it is used for.
 * Please let us know what is the best way to resolve the issue so that we can post a draft that can be approved and will stand up to the Wikipedia standards. Darkyto330 (talk) 15:08, 22 January 2024 (UTC)

Speedy deletion nomination of Draft:Fiddler (software)


A tag has been placed on Draft:Fiddler (software) requesting that it be speedily deleted from Wikipedia. This has been done under section G12 of the criteria for speedy deletion, because the page appears to be an unambiguous copyright infringement. This page appears to be a direct copy from https://docs.telerik.com/fiddler-everywhere/introduction and https://docs.telerik.com/fiddler-everywhere/security/fiddler-everywhere-fundamentals. For legal reasons, we cannot accept copyrighted text or images taken from other web sites or printed material, and as a consequence, your addition will most likely be deleted. You may use external websites or other printed material as a source of information, but not as a source of sentences. This part is crucial: say it in your own words. Wikipedia takes copyright violations very seriously and persistent violators will be blocked from editing.

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If you think this page should not be deleted for this reason, you may contest the nomination by visiting the page and clicking the button labelled "Contest this speedy deletion". This will give you the opportunity to explain why you believe the page should not be deleted. However, be aware that once a page is tagged for speedy deletion, it may be deleted without delay. Please do not remove the speedy deletion tag from the page yourself, but do not hesitate to add information in line with Wikipedia's policies and guidelines. DoubleGrazing (talk) 14:15, 1 January 2024 (UTC)

Hello, I'm Deb. I wanted to let you know that one or more of your recent contributions have been undone because they appeared to be promotional. Advertising and using Wikipedia as a "soapbox" are against Wikipedia policy and not permitted; Wikipedia articles should be written objectively, using independent sources, and from a neutral perspective. Take a look at the welcome page to learn more about Wikipedia. Thank you.Deb (talk) 15:21, 1 January 2024 (UTC)


 * I understand that policies must be followed, but I am now unsure on how the Fiddler page can be restored at all? Can you please let us know on what is the procedure so that we can create a draft that won't be rejected. All we want to achieve is to restore the Fiddler page (which is now redirected to an obsolete page with old and not relevant content), so that the community can know what Fiddler (as a software tool) stands for. Our tool is present for more than 20 years (we recently have a 20th anniversary) and it will benefit all including Wikipedia to have an informative page that briefly explains what is Fiddler, who stands behind it and what it is used for.
 * Please let us know what is the best way to resolve the issue so that we can post a draft that can be approved and will stand up to the Wikipedia standards.
 * Darkyto330 (talk) 15:10, 22 January 2024 (UTC)
 * Hi,
 * Firstly, just to say that nobody will hear your questions, unless they happen to be watching your user talk page (which I am, for reasons that escape me now) and feel like responding. If you wish to ask questions, you should do so at one of the help fora, such as WP:TEAHOUSE or WP:HELPDESK. Alternatively, you can address individual users by going to their user talk page, or by pinging them using Ping.
 * In answer to your question, you may be able to create an article on Fiddler, if you can show that it is notable enough to justify its own article. This means that you have to demonstrate that it meets either the general WP:GNG or the special WP:NSOFTWARE notability guideline. The recent draft only cited close primary sources, which is not enough. -- DoubleGrazing (talk) 15:28, 22 January 2024 (UTC)