User talk:Darren-M/Archives/2021/January

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Sticks and stones
I see you blocked an editor for one week making rude remarks. I'm intrigued and wonder if his insults might have been funny but they were deleted entirely from the edit history so I can't see them at all. Even so I'm not bothered about the name calling, but I am concerned about how User:Owennoreen reacted aggressively to what I thought was fair criticism of his editing (with hindsight, maybe I could have worded it more gently) and went and repeated exactly the same misguided edit.

Is there an admin noticeboard somewhere recording that you blocked him? I want to make a note of it so I can refer back to it if necessary. I pessimistically expect he will come back and make the same edits (but possibly with less swearing) when he returns. His name calling doesn't bother me near as much as his poorly phrased messing with film articles. (Please reply here, I'll check back later.) -- 109.78.199.136 (talk) 12:24, 21 January 2021 (UTC)
 * I gave the editor a warning but the block and the deletion of the personal attacks was carried out by - I'm not an admin. :) You can view blocks (including expired blocks) here. Best,  Darren-M   talk  12:31, 21 January 2021 (UTC)
 * Ok, thanks. -- 109.78.199.136 (talk) 13:21, 21 January 2021 (UTC)

January 2021
Hi Darren-M, I do think you made a mistake in removing my additions to [Vancouver School of Arts and Academics]. Although I did not provide a source, I am a student at the school and am trying to fill out our school wiki page so it is as informative as possible. How would I go about sourcing something that I know is true? Hiyallhowryou2 (talk) 04:03, 22 January 2021 (UTC)
 * , Thanks for your contributions. We need all contributions to be able to be independently verified by somebody, so we can't use 'own knowledge'. So e.g. you'd need to try to find a news article that talked about Royal Durst donating money to the school. Take a look at this guide for how to use references. Best, Darren-M   talk  12:03, 22 January 2021 (UTC)

Accidentally marked as vandalism
Hi, sorry, I accidentally reverted a change you made to Shrewsbury, Massachusetts, marking it as vandalism. I meant to revert some other changes that had been made previously. Gbear605 (talk) 04:17, 22 January 2021 (UTC)
 * , Not to worry - vandalism was the worst I've ever seen last night, so not surprised mistakes happened! Best, Darren-M   talk  10:54, 22 January 2021 (UTC)

RD1 request
I see that you requested an RD1 at: Adolf Eduard Herstein

The reversion was clearly proper as it was not referenced, but we don't typically do an RD1 unless we have affirmative evidence that it is a copyright violation. I did a very cursory search and didn't find the source of the material. I can't justify RD1 without seeing such a source. Can you check to see if you can find one if not I'm going to except the reversion is correct but declined the RD1.

Please let me know if you think I am incorrect on the process.-- S Philbrick (Talk)  18:30, 22 January 2021 (UTC)
 * , Hiya. I wasn't able to dig it up I'm afraid hence it not being listed in the revdel request. If RD1 isn't necessary on that basis, that's fine. Best, Darren-M   talk  18:49, 22 January 2021 (UTC)
 * , Thanks. S Philbrick  (Talk)  18:51, 22 January 2021 (UTC)

Re: changes removed by Darren-M on Pebbles Box page, Latest revision as of 15:52, 22 January 2021
Hi, you notified me that my changes were removed because I "didn't provide a source"—is there a recommended way to provide a source, when the evidence is not in a written article online but in the recording itself? When describing the difference in the contents of a track on a vinyl LP to the track on the CD release, I would assume that no citation is needed, because the albums/formats mentioned in my comment are themselves the primary source. Is there a way for you put back the comments you removed, with the understanding that the recordings in question are the source of the information? I'm unaware of a citation method for this (and the rest of that Wiki page similarly makes comments based on the contents of certain recordings, with no citations). Best, Jeffrey — Preceding unsigned comment added by 98.116.2.73 (talk) 19:41, 22 January 2021 (UTC)
 * Hi there - take a look at Citing_sources for how to cite audio recordings themselves. Best, Darren-M   talk  20:46, 22 January 2021 (UTC)
 * - see my response above. Darren-M   talk  20:46, 22 January 2021 (UTC)

Edit to Puberty Blockers.
Hello. I recently made an edit to the page for puberty blockers which you immediately reverted based on "not providing a citation". The edit was the inclusion of an incredibly general clarification on the controversy surrounding the usage of puberty blockers on minors which in my view does not in of itself require a citation. I assume based on the speed at which you reversed this edit it was done automatically. If not, would you mind explaining your reasoning? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 84.70.215.46 (talk) 20:40, 22 January 2021 (UTC)
 * Hi there. No, it wasn't automatic. I reverted the edit as every claim in an article should be supported by a citation. I suspect it shouldn't be difficult to find a citation to support the claim given the substantial recent media coverage of cases around this. Best, Darren-M   talk  20:44, 22 January 2021 (UTC)

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