User talk:DatGuy/Archives/2017/May

Deletion?
Maybe you should have just gone ahead and nominated it for deletion. (?) KDS4444 (talk) 11:14, 1 May 2017 (UTC)

Tech News: 2017-18
 Latest tech news from the Wikimedia technical community. Please tell other users about these changes. Not all changes will affect you. Translations are available.

Recent changes
 * The content translation tool works again. It was turned off because of a database problem.
 * Octicons-tools.svg Scripts using very old deprecated wikibits functions show errors. These functions have not worked since 2013. You should fix or disable broken scripts. You can see examples of how to upgrade scripts. This is the same thing as Tech News wrote about in issue 2017/16. You need to add  block for your scripts also, or add   dependency in gadget ResourceLoader section in MediaWiki:Gadgets-definition.

Problems
 * Because of a data centre test you will be able to read but not edit the wikis for 20 to 30 minutes on 3 May. This will start at 14:00 (UTC). You might lose edits if you try to save during this time. You can read more about this.

Changes this week
 * There is no new MediaWiki version this week. This is because of the data centre test.

Meetings
 * Octicons-sync.svg You can join the next meeting with the VisualEditor team. During the meeting, you can tell developers which bugs you think are the most important. The meeting will be on 2 May at 19:00 (UTC). See how to join.

Future changes
 * All Wikimedia wikis will have cookie blocks from May 8. This is an extension to the autoblock system so when a user is blocked, the next time they visit the wiki a cookie will be set. This means that even if the user switches accounts and to a new IP address the cookie will block them again.
 * The,   and   buttons will look slightly different. This is to fit with the OOUI look. Users can test scripts, gadgets and so on to see if they work with the new interface by adding   to the URL.

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Tech News: 2017-19
 Latest tech news from the Wikimedia technical community. Please tell other users about these changes. Not all changes will affect you. Translations are available.

Problems
 * Some users have a problem with the watchlist. Some changes in categories make the watchlist a blank page. The developers are working on this. Until this is fixed you can try some things that have helped other editors if you have this problem. You can turn on  in your watchlist preferences. You can turn off   in your watchlist preferences. You can remove problematic categories from Special:EditWatchlist/raw.
 * There was a problem with the visual editor for several days. You could not save edits that triggered a CAPTCHA. This would for example be when a new user added external links in references. This was fixed on 2 May.

Changes this week
 * When you edit you can switch between the visual editor and the wikitext editor. This works if the wiki you edit has the visual editor. The menu will now say  and   instead of   and  . This is because it was confusing when the menu said you could switch to the editor you were already using.
 * Octicons-sync.svg The new version of MediaWiki will be on test wikis and MediaWiki.org from 9 May. It will be on non-Wikipedia wikis and some Wikipedias from 10 May. It will be on all wikis from 11 May (calendar).

Meetings
 * Octicons-sync.svg You can join the next meeting with the VisualEditor team. During the meeting, you can tell developers which bugs you think are the most important. The meeting will be on 9 May at 19:00 (UTC). See how to join.

Future changes
 * You will be able to get a notification when a page you created is connected to a Wikidata item. This will come to Wikivoyage on 9 May. If there are no problems it will come to most Wikipedias on 30 May. It will come to other projects and English, French and German Wikipedia later in the summer. It will be opt-in for existing users and opt-out for new users.
 * Octicons-tools.svg Markup that looks like code for language variants might need to be fixed. If  is used in transclusions or web addresses it has to be escaped appropriately. You can use   for transclusions and   in web addresses. A transclusion could for example be when you use   in a template:  . This is because of some code fixes to the preprocessor and affects all wikis.

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Tech News: 2017-20
 Latest tech news from the Wikimedia technical community. Please tell other users about these changes. Not all changes will affect you. Translations are available.

Recent changes
 * You can now use ISBNs to automatically generate citations in the visual editor. This works on wikis that have enabled Citoid.
 * The Two Column Edit Conflict View is available as a beta feature on all wikis. It is a new interface for the edit conflict resolution page.

Problems
 * The  library does not load automatically any more. Your Special:MyPage/common.js may use it. If you have technical problems that started a couple of weeks ago you can try adding   as the first line in the file and   as a last one. Tech News wrote about this in the 2017/18 issue.

Changes this week
 * The RevisionSlider extension will be a default feature on all wikis. RevisionSlider is an easier way to move between changes in the page history. It has been a default feature on German, Arabic and Hebrew Wikipedia and a beta feature on all wikis. You will be able to turn it off in your preferences.
 * There is no new MediaWiki version this week.

Future changes
 * Administrators will soon be able to search through deleted pages.
 * Octicons-tools.svg Markup that looks like code for language variants might need to be fixed. Tech News wrote about this last week. If   is used in transclusions or web addresses it has to be escaped appropriately. You can use   for transclusions and   in web addresses. This is because of some code fixes to the preprocessor and affects all wikis. You can now see the full list of wikis with this problem and help fix them to avoid that things break later this month. You might find false positives. You can read more about what to fix.

Older unreported changes
 * Your Meta user page is shown on all wikis where you don't have a local user page. You can now add the magic word  to your Meta user page to stop this.

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Some stroopwafels for you!

 * What the heck is a stroopwafel? GermanGamer77 (talk) 02:07, 18 May 2017 (UTC)
 * Stroopwafel: Thin waffle with syrup in the middle. Dat GuyTalkContribs 13:50, 18 May 2017 (UTC)

Heh. Thing waffle. Good one, DatGuy GermanGamer77 (talk) 15:10, 18 May 2017 (UTC)
 * Whoops. Meant to write thin waffle. Dat GuyTalkContribs 15:43, 18 May 2017 (UTC)

Oh. See our other conversation above. GermanGamer77 (talk) 16:58, 18 May 2017 (UTC)

WikiWolf pack leader
Will you be my WikiWolf pack leader? I need one. GermanGamer77 (talk) 16:31, 13 May 2017 (UTC) GermanGamer77 (talk) 16:31, 13 May 2017 (UTC)
 * "WikiWolf pack leader" - care to explain what that means? Dat GuyTalkContribs 17:06, 13 May 2017 (UTC)

I just am looking for adoption. Uh, maybe ask Gwendy for more information. GermanGamer77 (talk) 19:08, 14 May 2017 (UTC)


 * Hey, I've been helping get the hang of Wikipedia (and plan to continue to check in on him), but our interests are really different. I looked at the list on WP:ADOPTION and thought that you might be a good fit. See also: the WikiWolf pack leader reference. – &#x1D558; wendy  &#124; &#9742;  19:32, 14 May 2017 (UTC)

Yeah. Thanks, Gwendy. — Preceding unsigned comment added by GermanGamer77 (talk • contribs) 16:34, 15 May 2017 (UTC)
 * Seems good! GermanGamer77, what are your interests? Dat GuyTalkContribs 16:38, 15 May 2017 (UTC)

Uh, history, science, Germany, biology and stuff. Thanks, DatGuy GermanGamer77 (talk) 20:20, 15 May 2017 (UTC)
 * We could either take this to a subpage or continue to first discussion in this section. Please let me know. Anyways, from WP:ADOPT, would you like to ask some questions? Would you like me to review your edits? Anything that I can do to help. Dat GuyTalkContribs 13:50, 18 May 2017 (UTC)

Sure! How about both? Where can we find a subpage? Because I have lots of questions. Edit reviewing. Sounds good! Thanks, DatGuy! GermanGamer77 (talk) 15:10, 18 May 2017 (UTC)

Also, how does Twinkle/Huggle work? And can I use it/them? GermanGamer77 (talk) 16:35, 19 May 2017 (UTC)

Bot Trial
Hi DatGuy, User:RonBot Approved fro trial. Now I know I need to uncomment the lines marked "DO NOT UNCOMMENT UNTIL BOT IS APPROVED" - two of these lines (in "main") are followed by "break" - I know from dummy runs that if the bot gets here then the program stops. Do I comment out these two breaks? Ron h jones (Talk) 21:32, 14 May 2017 (UTC)
 * Great. I've updated the code.
 * Nothing goes smoothly with a version 1.... I put a 7 files in Category:RonBotTest and pointed the program to that cat. First a print line it did not like (commented out for now), then it ran and not much on screen, but had to do a lot of undo-ing - just text changes. Added a huge amount of print statements and worked with one file in Category:RonBotTest2 and fond one syntax error - fixed that and it ran OK, removed the template, failed to revision delete!. See details of run at User:RonBot/Run1. It goes through the deletefile part OK, so I assume the api call is just not quite right? Ron h jones (Talk) 21:21, 16 May 2017 (UTC)
 * Added a line. Check out also my comment. Dat GuyTalkContribs 16:41, 17 May 2017 (UTC)
 * Have not tried your line, as I managed to read up on the api and work out the problem and hack it - your line may well be what I need. In "deletefile" as run before, the "version" parameter came out as - but all the api wanted was the number - 20170503171956. I'll let you read that before I re-run - your line might do that, my RegEx is way to rusty to work it out! Ron h jones (Talk) 22:07, 17 May 2017 (UTC)
 * Yep, my regex will convert it only to the number. Dat GuyTalkContribs 13:50, 18 May 2017 (UTC)
 * Great, more trials tonight when I get home  Ron h jones  (Talk) 14:04, 18 May 2017 (UTC)  — Preceding unsigned comment added by Ronjones (talk • contribs)
 * We are close - please see User:RonBot/Run2 Ron h jones (Talk) 20:30, 18 May 2017 (UTC)
 * Please see User:RonBot/Run3 first - I fixed the other issues Ron h jones (Talk) 21:05, 19 May 2017 (UTC)

Try using result.pop('filehidden', None). Dat GuyTalkContribs 21:10, 19 May 2017 (UTC)
 * Same result but
 * del result ['filehidden'] #Remove any "filehidden" results param1
 * del result ['archivename'] #Remove any "filehidden" results param2
 * does work. Looks like a need to scale up trial <b style="border:1px solid #dfdfdf;color:green; padding:1px 3px;background:#FFD">Ron h jones </b>(Talk) 21:39, 19 May 2017 (UTC)
 * Tell me if you've watchlisted this page and I'm annoying you with pings :). Anyways, judging by your comments at Run3, it seems like you figured it out? You still have 42 revdels and edits left. Finish those before requesting an edit rate ramp up.
 * Pings is fine, I like pings - when you are an admin the watchlist gets very large...! I meant scale up to complete the 50 :-) <b style="border:1px solid #dfdfdf;color:green; padding:1px 3px;background:#FFD">Ron h jones </b>(Talk) 01:14, 20 May 2017 (UTC)

Edits to Anorgasmia
Hi, I see you removed some text from the Anorgasmia page. The article now shows an image of the Hitachi Magic Wand with no context o.o Maybe you could add the block of information back, edited to be less "advetorial"? Or remove the image? Xolodilnik (talk) 09:02, 21 May 2017 (UTC)

New Page Review - Newsletter No.4
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DatGuy? Where did you go? GermanGamer77 (talk) 22:02, 19 May 2017 (UTC)
 * Patience is a virtue. I need to sleep too :). We might have different time zones. The time is midnight where I live. Dat GuyTalkContribs 22:08, 19 May 2017 (UTC)

...er... (on PT which is -8 hours from Universal) I'll go see what time zone Vami IV is in. How about you? 3:28 PM here GermanGamer77 (talk) 22:28, 19 May 2017 (UTC)
 * I'm at UTC+2:00. Dat GuyTalkContribs 17:48, 22 May 2017 (UTC)

Tech News: 2017-21
<section begin="technews-2017-W21"/> Latest tech news from the Wikimedia technical community. Please tell other users about these changes. Not all changes will affect you. Translations are available.

Changes this week
 * Octicons-sync.svg The new version of MediaWiki will be on test wikis and MediaWiki.org from 23 May. It will be on non-Wikipedia wikis and some Wikipedias from 24 May. It will be on all wikis from 25 May (calendar).
 * Octicons-tools.svg There will be a  tag around HTML from the MediaWiki wikitext parser. Gadgets with code that does not follow recommendations could have problems with this. You can report new problems you think are related to this.

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Pending Changes
FYI the bot does not seem to be updating the wp:PCB.  Gtstricky Talk or C 18:29, 28 April 2017 (UTC)
 * It updated less than 15 minutes ago. Dat GuyTalkContribs 18:31, 28 April 2017 (UTC)
 * I must be missing something then because the template seems to show 4/24 as the last update. WP:PCB. Maybe it is stuck in my cache or something.  Gtstricky Talk or C 18:45, 28 April 2017 (UTC)
 * Just checked PCB, yep it's the cache. Purged it. We might be able to get Joe's Null Bot on it. . Dat GuyTalkContribs 18:47, 28 April 2017 (UTC)
 * , Technically possible, but it would be more sensible for DatBot to do it at the point it updates the underlying file, wouldn't it? I'm probably missing something obvious, so lemme know what.  :)  --joe deckertalk 17:06, 1 May 2017 (UTC)
 * I'd need to make the code for it (which would be pretty easy). I believe it requires a new BRFA. How quick would it be for you to add a page? Dat GuyTalkContribs 10:45, 13 May 2017 (UTC)
 * bump. Dat GuyTalkContribs 13:50, 18 May 2017 (UTC)
 * Oh, I'd need a new BRFA as well, which is fine, and it'd be quite easy. I'll fine one tonight or tomorrow, sorry for the delay. How frequently do you think this needs to be done?  Daily?  Hourly? --joe deckertalk 01:50, 22 May 2017 (UTC)
 * Probably hourly. Dat GuyTalkContribs 05:43, 22 May 2017 (UTC)
 * So, just to verify, just purging Template:Pending Changes backlog you need purged hourly?  I'll file later today.  Thanks!   --joe deckertalk 14:00, 22 May 2017 (UTC)
 * Yep :). Dat GuyTalkContribs 17:48, 22 May 2017 (UTC)
 * fyi, submitted to BAG, it'll take a few days, likely. Bots/Requests_for_approval/Joe%27s_Null_Bot_13 --joe deckertalk 23:35, 25 May 2017 (UTC)

Tech News: 2017-22
<section begin="technews-2017-W22"/> Latest tech news from the Wikimedia technical community. Please tell other users about these changes. Not all changes will affect you. Translations are available.

Problems
 * Last week’s MediaWiki version was rolled back from some wikis because of a problem. This means planned changes did not happen.

Meetings
 * Octicons-sync.svg You can join the next meeting with the VisualEditor team. During the meeting, you can tell developers which bugs you think are the most important. The meeting will be on 30 May at 19:00 (UTC). See how to join.

Future changes
 * You will be able to control who can notify you on the Wikimedia wikis. You will have a user blacklist. When you add a user to the blacklist you will not get a notification when they mention you. You can test this on Beta Wikipedia. You can read more and give feedback on Meta.

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