User talk:Datohussin

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 * Thanks for your information, i really appreciate it. I will share a draft about him here Datohussin (talk) 19:41, 13 July 2017 (UTC)

Please unblock my account, my account has been recognized as the best article writer at malay wikipedia. Datohussin (talk) 02:52, 21 April 2021 (UTC)

Hasdie Hasnan
Hi. I note that you want to create an article about this person. Creating articles is difficult and frustrating for newbies, because we have lots of rules. This shouldn't be too surprising, after all, you wouldn't expect an international encyclopedia to have an article about your postman, nor would you expect it to be poor quality.

My strongest advice is to get editing existing articles to get the hang of the place before you even try to start an article. If you're determined to go ahead yourself, there's more advice I can give, but my first question is do you know Hasdie Hasnan personally in some way? --Dweller (talk) Become old fashioned! 14:35, 12 July 2017 (UTC)


 * hi, first im begging apologise if im annoying, yes i know him by press news [[file:Nphasdiehasnan1.jpg|thumb|News Paper , press news]] — Preceding unsigned comment added by Datohussin (talk • contribs)

Oh, you don't know him personally then?

OK, I'm happy to help. Can you paste here links and/or articles about him? We need at least two, they need to discuss him at some length and they need to be in reputable newspapers or books etc. See WP:RS. --Dweller (talk) Become old fashioned! 16:12, 12 July 2017 (UTC)


 * hi here ---> https://ms.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hasdie_Hasnan Datohussin (talk) 17:08, 12 July 2017 (UTC)

Hi, please unlock this page Hasdie Hasnan, i want to post the true story about him according press news. Thanks, just let me edit and publish it. Don't worry, i will post the true story according newspaper, all in news and i will make interview for him personality. Thanks

Hello. Wikipedia is not a reliable source and I can't understand that page anyway. I can't help if you don't do what I ask. I can see a newspaper that isn't in English. What does it say about him? And you need a second one, too. --Dweller (talk) Become old fashioned! 09:00, 13 July 2017 (UTC)
 * Also, what newspaper is that? What's it called? Is it a local or a national? --Dweller (talk) Become old fashioned! 09:01, 13 July 2017 (UTC)


 * hi, he is a new international singer, so i want to post in english at wiki page, that is national newspaper... you can read article about him if i done post about him. Datohussin (talk) 12:28, 13 July 2017 (UTC)
 * Thanks. We need two newspapers though. --Dweller (talk) Become old fashioned! 12:45, 13 July 2017 (UTC)

Just unlock i will post it. Thanks Datohussin (talk) 13:42, 13 July 2017 (UTC)
 * Your reluctance to answer my questions increases my reluctance to remove the page protection. Sounds like we're done here. --Dweller (talk) Become old fashioned! 14:00, 13 July 2017 (UTC)


 * hi im begging apologise if im miss to answer your question, hehe... what is your question? Datohussin (talk) 15:05, 13 July 2017 (UTC)

Please note that pages are not immediately unprotected just because somebody asks to post a new article — the whole point of page protection is that people were already repeatedly posting bad articles that didn't meet our requirements. So the page isn't going to be unlocked just because you ask — we have to see the new version you want to post before we can let you post it. So your best bet would be to create a draft version at User:Datohussin/Hasdie Hasnan so that it can be reviewed by experienced editors to determine whether it's good enough — if it is satisfactory, then it'll get moved into articlespace, and if it's not, then you'll get some guidance about what else needs to be done to improve it. But if all you're going to do is say "just unlock I will post it", that's not going to happen if you're not willing to show us that you understand and have complied with our actual requirements — the whole issue is that too many people have already tried to create bad and improperly sourced articles about him, so we need to see your version so that we know you're willing and able to do better.

Just to be clear, Wikipedia is not a free public relations platform on which people are automatically entitled to have articles just because they exist — to qualify for an article on here, a musician has to actually pass one or more specific criteria in WP:NMUSIC, and have sufficient reliable source coverage to verify that the claim to passing the criterion is true. The prior versions failed one or both of those conditions, which is why we had to delete them and why we have to see that your version meets them before we can actually permit it. Bearcat (talk) 15:20, 13 July 2017 (UTC)


 * Well, if the content you've posted above is your version of the article, then you definitely don't understand what's actually required: the "references" being listed in the references section are all still primary sources, with the only evidence of media coverage being one photograph of a news article. That is not what a Wikipedia article is supposed to look like, or how it's supposed to be referenced. So no, that's not the version of a Wikipedia article about him that would actually get into Wikipedia — it's simply not a keepable article by any standard whatsoever. Bearcat (talk) 16:16, 15 July 2017 (UTC)
 * hi so now what can i do? You won't unprotect this or you not agree for this? Datohussin (talk) 08:05, 16 July 2017 (UTC)
 * The only thing you can do at this point is actually familarize yourself with our notability and sourcing requirements, and actually write an article that actually meets them. He's not getting into Wikipedia any other way, because as I already pointed out we are not a free public relations platform on which he would be entitled to have an article just because he exists — you have to show certain specific and quantifiable markers of achievement that satisfy WP:NMUSIC, and a certain specific volume and depth of reliable source coverage in media that supports it, for an article on here to become earned. We're not here to help emerging new musicians become more famous — we're here to cover musicians who have already accomplished certain specific things and are already getting enough media coverage to pass our notability standards. Bearcat (talk) 18:19, 16 July 2017 (UTC)

Blocked as a sockpuppet
Please unblock my account, my account has been recognized as the best article writer at malay wikipedia Datohussin (talk)

Unblock my account
Please unblock my account, my account has been recognized as the best article writer at malay wikipedia Datohussin (talk) 02:52, 21 April 2021 (UTC)


 * ( Non-administrator comment ) As a courtesy, I've pulled the unblock request out of the block template where he originally put it so that an admin will actually see it. As a rebuttal to the request, however, a look at his contributions on Malay Wikipedia indicate little activity except for the self-promotion that led to his getting blocked here in the first place, and (based on a machine translation) I didn't find the recognition of his editing prowess on his talk page there.  Recommend a decline. --Finngall talk  03:54, 21 April 2021 (UTC)

I understand why i was blocked, but what i did before, now recognized as true wiki source. I don't understand why i was block, instead i wrote the true article and i never damage any wiki article. Datohussin (talk) 15:33, 12 June 2021 (UTC)

At Malay Wikipedia, i was recognized as giving true article at wikipedia and always update new article. Datohussin (talk) 15:34, 12 June 2021 (UTC)

Hi, now i'm attending course at malay wikipedia, i know all the rules using at wikipedia, i never do damage on wikipedia, i do right article on wikipedia. No other reason or proof to blocked me at wikipedia. Datohussin (talk) 12:45, 13 May 2022 (UTC)

Request for unblock

 * ( Non-administrator comment ) User’s activity on Malay Wikipedia continues to be solely focused on promoting Hasdie Hasnan and the various projects and entities associated with him, which was also their sole purpose on en-wiki. Even if one ignores the sockpuppetry, there is no reason to believe that they’ll contribute constructively to the encyclopedia if unblocked.  Once again, I recommend that this request be declined.  --Finngall talk  04:42, 14 May 2022 (UTC)