User talk:Davebrenner

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Copyright problems with Rosina Bierbaum
Hello. Concerning your contribution, Rosina Bierbaum, please note that Wikipedia cannot accept copyrighted text or images obtained from other web sites or printed material, without the permission of the author(s). As a copyright violation, Rosina Bierbaum appears to qualify for deletion under the speedy deletion criteria. Rosina Bierbaum has been tagged for deletion, and may have been deleted by the time you see this message. If you believe that the article or image is not a copyright violation, or if you have permission from the copyright holder to release the content freely under the Creative Commons Attribution/Share-Alike License (CC-BY-SA) then you should do one of the following:


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However, for textual content, you may simply consider rewriting the content in your own words. While we appreciate contributions, we must require all contributors to understand and comply with our copyright policy. Wikipedia takes copyright concerns very seriously, and persistent violators will be blocked from editing. Thank you.

Please note that even if the copyright issue were resolved, the promotional tone of a company or personal website may well be unsuitable for an encyclopedia article, which requires a neutral point of view. JohnCD (talk) 17:44, 3 November 2009 (UTC)

Copyright release
Welcome to Wikipedia. It might not have been your intention, but you removed a speedy deletion tag from a page you have created yourself. If you do not believe the page should be deleted, you can place a tag on the page, under the existing speedy deletion tag (please do not remove the speedy deletion tag), and make your case on the page's. Administrators will look at your reasoning before deciding what to do with the page.

If you believe that you are able to make a copyright release - which entails more than just permission to reproduce, see WP:Copyrights - you can explain why on the article talk page; but you need to take the steps explained in the copyright warning notice above. Simply asserting permission to use the material is not enough. Regards, JohnCD (talk) 18:06, 3 November 2009 (UTC)

Speedy deletion nomination of Rosina Bierbaum
A tag has been placed on Rosina Bierbaum requesting that it be speedily deleted from Wikipedia. This has been done under section A7 of the criteria for speedy deletion, because the article appears to be about a person or group of people, but it does not indicate how or why the subject is important or significant: that is, why an article about that subject should be included in an encyclopedia. Under the criteria for speedy deletion, such articles may be deleted at any time. Please see the guidelines for what is generally accepted as notable, as well as our subject-specific notability guideline for biographies. You may also wish to consider using a Wizard to help you create articles - see the Article Wizard.

If you think that this notice was placed here in error, you may contest the deletion by adding  to the top of the page that has been nominated for deletion (just below the existing speedy deletion or "db" tag), coupled with adding a note on the talk page explaining your position, but be aware that once tagged for speedy deletion, if the page meets the criterion it may be deleted without delay. Please do not remove the speedy deletion tag yourself, but don't hesitate to add information to the page that would render it more in conformance with Wikipedia's policies and guidelines. Lastly, please note that if the page does get deleted, you can contact one of these admins to request that they userfy the page or have a copy emailed to you. Scjessey (talk) 19:36, 4 November 2009 (UTC)

Rosina_Bierbaum


This page used content with permission form the University of Michigan School of Natural Resources and Environment. Rosina Bierbaum is the Dean for the school and the content placed on this page is the approved official bio. We would like to use this content for the Wikipedia page. Thank you, Dave brenner, Sr. Web Administrator UM SNRE Davebrenner (talk) 20:06, 4 November 2009 (UTC)

Deletion review for Rosina_Bierbaum
An editor has asked for a deletion review of Rosina_Bierbaum. Because you closed the deletion discussion for this page, speedily deleted it, or otherwise were interested in the page, you might want to participate in the deletion review. Davebrenner (talk) 20:06, 4 November 2009 (UTC)JohnCD

Advice
Hi. These discussions are easier to follow if they are in chronological order, so I have moved your two comments down. If you want to contest the deletion of your article the first thing to do is to ask one of the admins who deleted it, by leaving a message on their talk page - you can see who they are by clicking on the red-linked article title. But first, you should read this advice:

Repeating what I wrote under Copyright release" above: it is not enough to assert that you have permission to use the material, for two reasons:
 * to publish material in Wikipedia involves much more than just permission to reproduce. As it says at the bottom of every edit screen: "You irrevocably agree to release your contributions under the CC-BY-SA 3.0 License and the GFDL" which implies permission to anyone to re-copy, edit, and use for any purpose. It is important that the copyright holder understands this. More information at WP:Copyrights.
 * while I do not doubt that you are who you say, Wikipedia has no way to be sure of that: you are just someone on the end of an internet connection. Copyright issues can give us severe problems, so if you want to submit copyright material you must follow the steps explained in the notice above headed "Copyright problems with Rosina Bierbaum".

Two more important points:
 * Wikipedia is not a sort of notice-board on which you can simply pin extracts from your web-site: it is an encyclopedia, with its own standards for articles. One important way in which it differs from a notice-board or forum is that an article is not owned by its author, or by any editor - see WP:Ownership of articles. Another warning on every edit screen is "If you do not want your writing to be edited, used, and redistributed at will, then do not submit it here." You must expect that your contribution will be edited, and you will not be able to control it.
 * Also, since you work for Dr Bierbaum's school, you have from Wikipedia's point of view a conflict of interest in writing about her. That does not bar your contribution, but it means that it is likely to get more scrutiny than if you were an impartial editor. There is advice on editing with a conflict of interest at WP:BESTCOI and at User:Uncle G/On notability.

After all that, my advice: if you don't want to write from scratch, follow the steps above to organise a copyright release. Trim the text of peacock terms like "prestigious" - from memory, it was not too bad in that respect. Add enough independent references to establish that Dr Bierbaum is notable to the standard described in Notability (academics); I don't think that should be a problem. Trim down to essentials rather than include too much detail. Do not list every paper that she has ever written - for that sort of detail you should link to her website. Look at some of the articles listed in Good articles for models, though you do not need initially to be as richly-referenced as they are. Disclose on the article's talk page that you have a COI in that you work for Dr Bierbaum's school. If you like, prepare a draft in a user sub-page - click on the red-link User:Davebrenner/Rosina Bierbaum, type in the box and save it.

I'm afraid you probably approached Wikipedia thinking that your task was no more than to pin on a notice-board an extract from your website, and are by now dismayed to find that it is more complicated than that. The reason is that Wikipedia only remains a useful encyclopedia, rather than a sort of glorified Myspace, by having standards and trying to enforce them. If you have any questions, ask them below - I will watch this talk page. Regards, JohnCD (talk) 22:33, 4 November 2009 (UTC)

Unreferenced BLPs
Hello Davebrenner! Thank you for your contributions. I am a bot alerting you that 1 of the articles that you created  is tagged as an Unreferenced Biography of a Living Person. The biographies of living persons policy requires that all personal or potentially controversial information be sourced. In addition, to ensure verifiability, all biographies should be based on reliable sources. if you were to bring this article up to standards, it would greatly help us with the current Category:All_unreferenced_BLPs article backlog. Once the article is adequately referenced, please remove the unreferencedBLP tag. Here is the article:

Thanks!--DASHBot (talk) 23:42, 8 January 2010 (UTC)
 * 1) Rosina Bierbaum -