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Speedy deletion nomination of "Having It All" The Musical


A tag has been placed on "Having It All" The Musical, requesting that it be speedily deleted from Wikipedia. This has been done under section G11 of the criteria for speedy deletion, because the page seems to be unambiguous advertising which only promotes a company, product, group, service or person and would need to be fundamentally rewritten in order to become an encyclopedia article. Please read the guidelines on spam and FAQ/Business for more information.

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Clarification on speedy deletion
I noticed the following comment on the talk page of the deleted page:

This page is not unambiguously promotional, because... 1. The article cites two negative reviews of Having It All The Musical. It provides the names of those critics, their publications, and links to their negative reviews, making them readily available. It also provides a link to a comprehensive roundup of reviews (not generated by the author or by Having It All the Musical) that demonstrate that these were the ONLY two negative commentaries available for the piece, when many more positive notices could have been cited in the bulk of the article and are not. In other words, if there had been a less "promotion-friendly" way to provide a balanced accounting of the critical response to the piece, it was not available. 2. "Having It All" The Musical, aside from its critical acclaim from the paper of record of Los Angeles, The Los Angeles Times, has now been further acclaimed by the Ovation Awards of Southern California -- which is, in the words if its own Wikipedia entry, "a Southern California award for excellence in theatre, established in 1989. They are given out by the Los Angeles Stage Alliance and are the only peer-judged theatre awards in Los Angeles. They have been called the "...highest-profile contest for local theatre..." by the Los Angeles Times. Each year, in November, the Ovation Awards draw national attention to the quality and quantity of professional theatre in Los Angeles." "Having It All" was nominated for seven 2011 Ovation Awards, including Best Book, Best Musical, and five acting awards, all for Best Actress and and one for Best Ensemble -- making it a noteworthy entry for followers of important and significant works of theatre. No other musical in its category achieved that number of nominations. 3. "Having It All" achieved a rare degree of followers and success during its commercial run in Los Angeles. Two extensions beyond an originally scheduled closure is an extremely rare occurrence for a musical, especially one of its intimate size, in Los Angeles. If the page can be edited somehow for approval, we would eagerly appreciate the opportunity rather than see it taken down.

Citing negative reviews does not make the article non-promotional, if the positive parts are not written in a neutral tone. By the term "we", it seems you may be affiliated with this subject. Generally speaking, we strongly discourage those closely associated with a subject from editing or creating articles about it, as it makes it very difficult to maintain neutrality and objectivity. It's possible this subject is an appropriate subject for an article, if there really is substantial unaffiliated coverage of it in reliable sources, but the article there wasn't even close.

Generally speaking, if any marketing department would approve of an article, it's unacceptable. Seraphimblade Talk to me 22:12, 29 October 2011 (UTC)

Talkback
Seraphimblade Talk to me 20:38, 30 October 2011 (UTC)

Hi
I started your WP:BLP pretty much by accident, disambiguating from other David Goldsmiths. I saw the additions you made and have correctly formatted them. You may want to add a year and place of birth. I also have created a stub on Having It All (musical). The independent review coverage seems to bring it past WP:NOTABILITY. Best of luck. In ictu oculi (talk) 01:14, 7 September 2013 (UTC)
 * . . (1,886 bytes) (+41)‎ . . (added birthdate and birthplace as recommended. Please advise as to any other biographical information that may be allowed. Thank you. David Goldsmith) (undo | thank)
 * Thanks, unfortunately that's pretty much it. Basic biodata is important, but beyond date/place birth anything else would have to be rigorously sourced from third party print sources. I've formatted the recent additions and put in chronological order, separating songs and shows. In ictu oculi (talk) 01:41, 7 September 2013 (UTC)

How to upload photo
Provided it was taken by the uploader should be simple WP:File Upload Wizard. In ictu oculi (talk) 02:42, 8 September 2013 (UTC)