User talk:Davepape/Archive 1

Your article, Joseph A. Walker, was selected for DYK!
Thanks for your contributions! Good expansion. This one was marginal as a nom though, (it was almost not a stub before) mostly I took it for the neat pic.  + +Lar: t/c 14:16, 24 June 2006 (UTC)
 * Yeah, I thought the same thing, but it still had the stub tag, so I figured what the hey, might as well submit it. Davepape 02:54, 25 June 2006 (UTC)

Your article, Gertie the Dinosaur, was selected for DYK!
Nice amplification. Thanks for your contributions!  + +Lar: t/c 17:13, 29 June 2006 (UTC)

new article on color scan
interesting article, but could you add the optical resolution and a brief discussion relating this system to other optical satellite systems of the same era (e.g. KH-11)? thanks Covalent 19:11, 29 June 2006 (UTC)

Your article, Coastal Zone Color Scanner, was selected for DYK!
Thanks for your contributions! You're building up an impressive string of DYKs now... please continue!  + +Lar: t/c 15:40, 2 July 2006 (UTC)

Another DYK
Thanks for the great work on DYK! -- Samir  धर्म 07:19, 7 July 2006 (UTC)

Buffalo primary
Thanks for clarifying the bit about Helfer; you were right about the way it sounded. But I was confused when I originally edited the section and still am somewhat. Is the primary the precursor to a run-off, the way senators from Louisiana are elected? Municipal elections here are all nonpartisan because of the California "don't trust the politicians" mentality. :) Moulder 01:26, 20 July 2006 (UTC)

Yet another DYK!
I thought it qualified and enjoyed your additions. Cheers -- Samir   धर्म  18:41, 23 July 2006 (UTC)

Reinvigorate
I realized that after I made the edit. &mdash; BRIAN 0918 &bull; 2006-07-24 04:05

FPC Candidate (Siberian tiger)
A comment was recently posted by Samsara on the Siberian tiger FPC. It concerned placing the image in another article (see the subpage for the exact comment). I have now added the image to the stretching article, so you may or may not consider changing your vote (this is just to inform you of the change). Thanks. -- Tewy  00:58, 20 August 2006 (UTC)

The Great Piggy Bank Robbery
I wonder if you know where the line "Ah loves dat man!" actually comes from. I know it's a line from "St. Louis Blues", but I am fairly certain it was connected with a black female entertainer of around the time of the cartoon, one of the Warner writers endless radio-and-movie references. Trouble is, I can't find out whose catchphrase that was. Any ideas? Wahkeenah 04:19, 9 September 2006 (UTC)
 * Beautiful! In the back of my mind, I was thinking "Beulah", but couldn't find it somehow. And I had looked under that website (which is a great resource) but only under "I". Thank you! Wahkeenah 16:58, 14 September 2006 (UTC)

DYK
Nice article! Thanks! --Srik e it (Talk 17:35, 23 September 2006 (UTC)

Infrared Tree
Please update your vote at: Featured_picture_candidates/Near_Infrared_Tree to indicate which version you prefer. Thanks! -Ravedave (help name my baby) 17:08, 26 September 2006 (UTC)

Charles H. Wacker
Thanks for the information. I apologize for the change. How are things in Buffalo. (I grew up pretty near UB in Amherst). I saw Amherst on the Weather Channel this morning.TonyTheTiger 17:58, 14 October 2006 (UTC)

redirects
If you go to what links here on Charles H. Wacker, you can see I added some redirects. You may want to do the same with your other page creations.TonyTheTiger 18:00, 14 October 2006 (UTC)

POTD notification
This is to let you know the Featured Picture you uploaded and/or nominated Image:Orion Nebula - Hubble 2006 mosaic 18000.jpg is scheduled to be Picture of the day on November 30, 2006, when it will be featured on the Main Page. Congratulations!  howch e  ng   {chat} 17:38, 30 October 2006 (UTC)

George (Mooney) Gibson
Great addition to the George Gibson article! (1911 baseball card image). Barry Wells 01:54, 1 November 2006 (UTC)

Connecticut Yankee illo
Good catch on the copyrighted cover illo!--Orange Mike 03:53, 3 November 2006 (UTC)

Playboy Cyber Club Undeletion attempt
Thanks for visiting and contributing to my Burnham Plan page. I haven't talked to you in a while. You may notice I made another minor revision on Charles Wacker since we last spoke. I am in need of some openmindedness. I think I am making a valid request. If you get a chance, could you take a look here Deletion review/Log/2006 November 12 and see if you would be willing to support an AfU. TonyTheTiger 17:17, 14 November 2006 (UTC)

Brady Handy photos
Please avoid adding duplicate Brady-Handy photos when a higher res version can simply be uploaded over the older version. This can create confusion and is a bit of a waste of server space. Thanks. --tomf688 (talk - email) 01:38, 28 November 2006 (UTC)
 * Sorry - much of it's handled by a semi-automated process to generate a consistent naming scheme and descriptions for the hundreds of files. The vast majority of the existing lower res photos that are duplicated are ones that are on en.wikipedia rather than commons (or have different source info and may not be exactly the same); Reverdy Johnson slipped past.  Also, as the wikimedia software retains all past versions of an image, uploading a new one over the old one does not save significant space. --Davepape 04:37, 28 November 2006 (UTC)

Frederick T. Frelinghuysen
Thanks for adding in the higher resolution image to the article. Do you want to weigh in which is the best name for the article? We have the full name or the truncated name. See: Talk:Frederick T. Frelinghuysen --Richard Arthur Norton (1958- ) 07:16, 28 November 2006 (UTC)

Just found your image on the main page
Was very impressed by all your images and also noticed you contributed a lot of articles. You already have a brand-new barnstar, otherwise I might have given you one. Keep up the good work! --Ben T/C 17:04, 30 November 2006 (UTC)
 * Thanks - I'm a bit leery of the overfascination with barnstars, but I guess "it's the thought that counts". --Davepape 17:38, 30 November 2006 (UTC)

POTD
This is to let you know the Featured Picture you uploaded and/or nominated Image:Gordon Parks - American Gothic.jpg is scheduled to be Picture of the day on January 31, 2007, when it will be featured on the Main Page. Congratulations!  howch e  ng   {chat} 07:45, 31 December 2006 (UTC)

David Deutsch page. See also: simulated reality
An internal link to the Simulated reality page has been added and then dropped from David Deutsch. It is actually quite relevant, since Deutsch discusses the subject in Fabric Of Reality. (The current page is rather WP:POV, but that is a separate issue).1Z 16:03, 18 January 2007 (UTC)

Virtusphere page's See also: simulated reality
I've reinserted the Simulated reality link into the Virtusphere page since the Virtusphere is attempting to simulate reality by eliminating physical barriers from the Virtual Reality experience. -- Eptin 20:48, 19 January 2007 (UTC)

Re: PD-Layout
Yes, I noticed that is ends up as "junk"... but it's a by-produce of the "move to commons" tool I use. I'm not specifically adding it, it's the tool that does it. Yes, I could remove that text, but it would slow me down, and for something as minor as a little bit of yucky code showing (that doesn't really affect anything on the page at least) I think it's a trivial problem. Unless you tell me otherwise, I will continue not to bother with this. I shall notify the tool owner to see if they can do anything to fix this bug though. Thank you for notifying me. -- MECU ≈ talk 15:43, 22 January 2007 (UTC)

Re: Image:$05a.JPG
I restored the image, as it was deleted on commons. ^ demon [omg plz] 15:03, 11 May 2007 (UTC)

Neil deGrasse Tyson photo
Sorry about the WGBH promo photo, and thanks for the assistance finding a free replacement! Keep up the good work. Fl1942 17:22, 15 August 2007 (UTC)

Hi .. gnomed in - impressed by your 1500 plus images
Dave, saw your work re-orgaising photos for Eyam and Buxton (in Derbyshire). Thanks. There are quite a few Derbyshire photos orgained in cats. The role of pages in commons is not as clear as it is in wikipedia. Is there a guide or a good model of how it should be arranged? 19:04, 30 September 2007 (UTC)

Charlotte Casiraghi photo source
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:Charlotte_Casiraghi.jpg

At the time I found the photo the source link provided worked and was accurate. The photo was released into the public domain by Rita Janssen, however, it seems either the photo was moved or taken down and now the link directs to a different photo. If this now means that the photo must be removed, then I regret that but at the time I found the photo the information given was accurate. I'm sorry for any trouble this causes, please let me know if there's something I may do so that the image is permissible. It seems that the "VIP birth and deathdays" is Rita's account, and I've sent a flickrmail to ask about the photo and check its status again to be sure its labeling is accurate. --Jonjames1986 (talk) 21:51, 27 February 2008 (UTC)

Disputed fair use rationale for Image:Dutch 5 cent.jpg
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Paterson/Bruno photo
Hello, I found the photo at http://www.flickr.com/photos/24795647@N06/2340822863/, it was originally part of an Albany Blog. MrPrada (talk) 21:13, 17 March 2008 (UTC)

Bovet images
I didn't properly label some of the images for the Bovet Fleurier article, specifically Image:Ed bovet.jpg and Image:Bovet August 1944.jpg. I have attempted to fix. Please notify me if the attempt was insufficient so that I have time to remedy before removal, because the Image:Bovet August 1944.jpg image is essential to the content of the article in the section in which it is used. Thank you for your assistance with legally using these pictures. Zoticogrillo (talk) 19:33, 9 July 2008 (UTC)


 * Actually, there's not much more information that I can give. I came across the Image:Ed bovet.jpg when I was in Europe, which initiated my interest.  The postcard-like photo has no more information other than the name of the individual.  The same image can be found at http://www.bovetfleurier.com .  The newspaper article was sent to me by a watchmaker/historian from the U.K.  He didn't know the information of the newspaper, other that someone had labeled it as 1944.  Based on the history of the styles of watches found in watch collecting books, and the style of the watch in the ad, that date is accurate.  Bovet watches were not made between 1950 and the late 1990's, therefore we can be sure based on other verifiable information that the newspaper was published before 1968 and before 1975.  This is all the information I have, and seems too narrative and unuseful for the image description.  Yes, wiki articles need to have verifiable info, which means we do the best that we can, but just because the citations are not perfect does not mean that the information is untrue or needs to be removed. There is a presumption of good will and accuracy, and in this case there is already enough info to establish that the images are not totally bogus. Zoticogrillo (talk) 15:48, 10 July 2008 (UTC)


 * I provided all the information possible about the images. They were removed.  What minimal information needs to exist for an image to not be removed? Zoticogrillo (talk) 07:22, 15 July 2008 (UTC)

Fair use rationale for Image:Courchesne LandscapeOne.jpg
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Fair use rationale for Image:Krueger SmallPlanet Mediartech98.jpg
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Image problems
Honestly, I uploaded those when I was pretty new around here. Some probably qualify as fair use but to tell you the truth I am not really concerned what happens to them. If I get a chance I will take a look see. Thanks for letting me know. --IvoShandor (talk) 04:29, 11 September 2008 (UTC)

Re: Media Copyright question about Patents
Thanks for your reply on this issue, it was quite helpful. Chuckiesdad (talk) 02:06, 22 September 2008 (UTC)

obey giant
I'll see if I can contact Shepard Fairey and get his permission first.


 * That'd be great. --dave pape (talk) 20:45, 22 September 2008 (UTC)

Image copyrights
Image:Alcan lynemouth.JPG is entirely my own work which is why I have licensed it under a "self" license. A relative gave me permission to scan and use photographs which they had taken (Image:Stella cooling towers.jpg, Image:Stella power station ash crane.jpg and Image:Bessie surtees boat swing bridge.jpg). What am I required to do/change to ensure the images stay where they are? Fintan264 (talk) 18:57, 24 September 2008 (UTC)
 * Thanks. He's away at the minute but I'll ask him to when he gets back. In the mean time I'll put an explanation on the pages. Fintan264 (talk) 19:19, 24 September 2008 (UTC)
 * Am I allowed to remove the tags that you've put on the images? Fintan264 (talk) 19:21, 24 September 2008 (UTC)

Re-Notability of Rich Kegler and Carima El-Behairy
Hi,

I meant to send this to you earlier. Here's the assignment from Wednesday:

1. Kevin Bacon 2. John Edwards 3. Barack Obama 4. Ronald Regan 5. Gerald Ford 6. Chevy Chase

Here's the article from the WNYBAC I created, which has been subsequently deleted:

The Western New York Book Arts Collaborative(WNYBAC)is a non-profit organization located at the corner of E. Mohawk and Washington Street, occupying an abandoned department store in Buffalo's downtown district. The WNYBAC was founded by husband and wife team, Richard Kegler and Carima El-Behairy, who also run P22 Fonts Online. The WNYBAC offers year-round classes and art shows, showcasing the printed form, and teaching students the art of letterpress printing.

As of the 2008, the building the WNYBAC inhabits is still under renovation. When completed, it will house a museum, cafe, and classrooms, where students at every level can learn and practice the art of typography.

I also wanted to create an article about the Richardson Olmstead Complex, since it is a historic building and there is talk of renovating it and using it for new purposes. I think the article would appeal to architecture buffs, but then again I can't predict what will be tagged for speedy deletion! by some of the admins.

Thanks. Dan Kassem —Preceding unsigned comment added by DanKassem (talk • contribs) 01:55, 13 September 2008 (UTC)

Could u please leave those fist of the north star pictures alone?
I am asking u to help me keep those pictures in Wikipedia, believe me no one will be mad for putting those pictures here , on the contrary , the people who made fist of the north star will be very please , so please I am asking u to help me keep those pictures , thanks for your understanding. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Royxomonuchi (talk • contribs)

Nate Grapes Article
Changed it with a screenshot from a music video.

Thank you for reminding me about the code we used in class, it worked likea charm, kdm85 —Preceding unsigned comment added by Kdm85 (talk • contribs) 00:07, 2 October 2008 (UTC)

Image copyright problem with Image:Sandin DeathsDoorGardenPeninsula.jpg
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foreign edits
im sticking to using photos on foreign sites, pretty hard to navigate but here is my process CaSclafani (talk) 05:47, 9 December 2008 (UTC)
 * http://it.wikipedia.org/wiki/Positano
 * http://it.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sorrento
 * http://it.wikipedia.org/wiki/Capri

Moving from User Space
I have moved my Squeaky Wheel page from my user space, but it keeps showing up as a red link. I forget how to fix that problem, can you help?? Manda.L.Isch (talk) 08:04, 3 December 2008 (UTC)

Siobhan Dillon
I have replaced the image of Siobhan with one of my own. I had no fair rationale for using the Myspace one other than the fact that it was better quality than the one I owned. To appease the situation however, I have changed it. --Daibh (talk) 22:05, 9 October 2008 (UTC)

Nicole Linkletter
The image of Nicole has been created, through a lengthy contact sheet>scanning process, from her Ford Model contact sheet, which I have an unlicensed copy of. The shot in question has not been used in Nicole's portfolio, nor has it appeared in any publications. It is therefore, license-free, and I maintain it's eligibility for inclusion on her Wikipedia page. --Daibh (talk) 22:07, 9 October 2008 (UTC)

Fran Jackson
I have no claim to this image. It was sourced from a Fan Blog, and therefore I respect any administrator's final decision on it's eligibility for inclusion. --Daibh (talk) 22:09, 9 October 2008 (UTC)

License Tags
I can't seem to find the appropriate license tag to use when I upload images from these Public Domain Pictures. I have uploaded 3 of them. Can you help me find the right license tag please? Thanks. Manda.L.Isch (talk) 23:10, 15 October 2008 (UTC)

Rawey Kased: Images & Licenses
Hello Dave, I just want talk more about using other peoples images. Now this photographer that I know of, allowed me to use all the images that I want to use. The thing is, I don't want to keep requesting one by one. He also asked me do I need a website to use as a source in order to use the image. Is there an easier way of asking for the images. Like for instance, he would reply back to 'permissions-commonswikimedia.org' saying I can use all the images or he allows me to put a license on it saying it's my image (giving me the copyright). How do I explain to him about this situation? How can I go about this? wikiraw31 (talk) 15:51, 20 October 2008 (UTC)

Images
Crap, didn't realize. Thanks. --User:AlbertHerring Io son l'orecchio e tu la bocca: parla! 14:21, 23 October 2008 (UTC)

Rawey Kased: Categorizing Images
Hello Dave, Ok I still get confused with categorizing things. So I upload a photo of my clock and categorized it by editing the image with Category:Clocks. I want to add that to or create a sub-category of Gold Clocks, or somewhere where I can add this image. I go and edit the image and type in Category:Gold Clocks, it creates a page? I get it half way then I don't know after that.

wikiraw31 (talk) 17:05, 26 October 2008 (UTC)

Daniel Rodriguez new photo
Just wanted to say Thank you for loading a terrific new photo! I hope no one removes it! 71.87.55.138 (talk) 03:50, 28 October 2008 (UTC)

Kevin Maerten
http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Maya_Angelou —Preceding unsigned comment added by Kdm85 (talk • contribs) 17:01, 10 November 2008 (UTC)

Image:AdirondackGuide.jpg
Per your note, I have provided an updated source on Image:AdirondackGuide.jpg. The image is from the 1890s, so it is PD. -- Mwanner | Talk 17:58, 17 November 2008 (UTC)
 * Will do. And yes, I have seen the image dated at the Adirondack Museum in Blue Mtn Lake. -- Mwanner | Talk 18:07, 17 November 2008 (UTC)

License
Hi, I looked at that page, and there are many examples of requests, but not a simple one sentence grant example. I think those people will grant it provided we give them a sample sentence, to avoid many emails. Is this good enough: "We grant permission for use within Wikipedia as a free license, to be used also by Wikipedia users". The key to get these permissions I think is not to overload those people with 17 pages of legal text, but give them a simple sentence that they cna understand. Please provide a simple enough sentence to avoid many messages. Thanks. History2007 (talk) 05:14, 18 November 2008 (UTC)

Image:Golddusttwins.jpg
hi - not sure how to improve the sourcing for this image. three years ago, i made that low-res scan of an old photo which had been reprinted in a (library) book. picture was snapshot originally owned by nelson. details in book said photographer unknown, which i noted on the image page. i reduced/cropped the image from the original. age of photo and lack of specified credits indicated public domain. J. Van Meter (talk) 12:37, 21 November 2008 (UTC)

Copyright violations
Just to let you know that the correct tag for images which are copyright violations is. This is so that they are sorted into the correct category. Stifle (talk) 23:17, 6 December 2008 (UTC)


 * Thanks. I've fixed the WP:PUI header, where I always go for a reminder of which template to use.  --dave pape (talk) 23:56, 6 December 2008 (UTC)

Clarification please
Hi, since you seem to know a lot about images etc., perhaps you can help me on this issue. I looked at the image on the right and there is a statement therein that:


 * WGA has given permission for use of images on Wikipedia.

Do I understand that to apply to all images on the entire WGA site? If so, can we use those images in Wikipedia after download? Thank you. History2007 (talk) 23:48, 14 December 2008 (UTC)


 * Thank you for the detailed response you provided on my talk page. History2007 (talk) 00:23, 16 December 2008 (UTC)

On Photographs
Dear Davepape, the task that you have confronted me with is just unsurmountable! I shall do whatever I can, but there are many things that are simply undoable. Take for instance the photographs of Tangeh Bolaghi. The website at issue, from where I have the pertinent photographs, has simply disappeared: its owners have not renewed their subscription with as consequence that even the domain name of the website is no longer in existence (I know this because when the last time I attempted to visit this website, it turned out that the web host had made the domain name available to new buyers). And, I can assure you that there was no legal restriction regarding use of these photographs (even despite this fact, at the time I wrote to the owners of the website and informed them that I had used some of their photographs, and in doing so acknowledged their website - this fact is reflected in my statements on the pertinent image pages). Now, you could delete these photographs, but that would serve no purpose.

I feel compelled to be somewhat impertinent and ask you one question regarding an issue that has mystified me: why, as an Assistant Professor, have you taken on yourself to carry out this menial task of tagging photographs uploaded by me? I am simply dumbfounded by your zealotry in distroying the work that I have done, at great cost to my precious time (I am an academic and can tell you that, e.g., Dame Mary Cartwright was a personal friend of mine - rather than tagging the photograph of this deceased woman, you, as an Assistant Professor, could have taken the trouble and through Google-Image traced the origin of the photograph --- with due respect, I am mystified by this destructive attitude of the people like you; the urge to deface a woman long since dead is just beyond my comprehension). Perhaps you wish to reconsider your recent taggings and possibly proceed with making some real intellectual contribution to Wikipedia. Please forgive me for disparaging your work, but given the fact that university professors are being paid partly by my tax money, I feel somewhat justified in being critical of academics who spend their precious times on issues for which one actually needs no education (I am being frank with you because I see you as a junior colleague of mine, one who has annoyed me, beyond what I am capable of tolerating, by his anti-intellectual zealotry - I had not have been as frank, and uncourteous, had you not introduced yourself as an Assistant Professor on your Wikipedia page). Perhaps you wish to amend your ways by thinking of ways for saving the photographs that you have so passionately, and heartlessly, tagged for deletion in the course of the past hours (please note that I will not gain a penny, nor will I lose a penny, by the maintenance or deletion of these tagged photographs - I have been solely attempting to save something valuable for the posterity). Please do not come back to me with what the Wikipedia rules prescribe (I already know these rules too well) and that you have been merely enforcing these rules; be constructive and save the photographs for a global readership for many years to come.

With kind regards, --BF 22:28, 15 December 2008 (UTC).

Dan Wentworth: Grades
Hey Dave,

Sorry to bother you, but I had one issue concerning my UB learns grade sheet for Wikimedia that I would like to address. It is recorded that I got a 0/10 on assignment 7 (add info and cite a reliable reference). I did add a reference and some information to the Iberville Parish article on October 3rd at 17:55 under my anonymous IP address, and again at 17:57 after I realized my mistake and logged in. I wasn’t logged in when I added the bulk of the information and the reference so that’s probably where the confusion arose. I was wondering if you could revisit my contributions page and take a look. I would greatly appreciate it. Again, thanks for your time and have a happy holiday.

Sincerely,

-Dsw4 (talk) 16:42, 22 December 2008 (UTC)