User talk:Daveroo69

I'll be happy to adopt you
Well, allright then. Off we go! The next step is really up to you: Let me know what you'd like to get out of this whole thing. I can give you specific assignments and such, or I can just sort of be here for questions and general guidance. Whichever style you prefer is the one we'll use.

You might also like to peruse my wikithoughts page (read it bottom-to-top), to get an idea of what my early experiences were like – along with some general pointers for staying sane in this place.

With regard to the article you started, John McIntyre (copy editor), you'll need to be careful – read the rules at WP:NOTABLE for what will and won't be proposed for deletion on Wikipedia. As it currently stands, someone is probably going to suggest that the article be deleted because the notability isn't explained clearly enough. It might help me to know why you chose to make a page on this person?

Welcome to the Machine, as Pink Floyd said, and let me know how you want to proceed. – Scartol  ·  Talk  23:53, 29 October 2007 (UTC)

Your first assignment
Okay, then. Seeing as how you're interested in sabermetrics, and that article is in sore need of sources, your assignment is to find three (3) reliable sources, and add them to the article where appropriate. (Keep in mind you may need to rewrite certain sentences or sections to include your sources.) Finding a source for the Bill James tidbit at the start seems like one of the most important places to start.

Remember that Google can be useful, but your local library probably also has access to many, many other articles. Check the website or maybe even visit in person.

Good luck and please keep me posted. As always if you have questions, just ask. Cheers! – Scartol  ·  Talk  01:56, 30 October 2007 (UTC)


 * The references look good. You've used reliable sources, and added them in the right spots. Now we need to work on the formatting. Since you've used tags, we'll proceed with APA style, the one I use (and the main style for footnotes, and the easiest for Wikipedia, IMO). The following bits of information are needed in each citation:
 * Author's name and date of source. Some websites don't have an author listed. If it's not available, just skip it or list the organization as the author.
 * Title of article. This goes in quotation marks. If you're using a book, skip this one.
 * Name of publication. This is italicized. Give the title of the magazine, newspaper, website, or journal. If you're using a book, give the book's title.
 * Online info (if applicable). If you got the info from a website, indicate the name (and make it a link) of the sponsoring organization. (espn.org, for example, is sponsored by ESPN.) Also give the date you accessed the site.
 * Page number(s). Indicate which page(s) the information is found on. (This obviously doesn't apply to online sources.)
 * You can find guidelines and examples on the APA style page linked above, and for examples in action, you might want to check out 1998_Puerto_Rican_general_strike, which I wrote. Nice work so far – keep it up! (I'm glad to hear it's enjoyable, too! The best of both WikiWorlds.) – Scartol  ·  Talk  13:43, 1 November 2007 (UTC)

Nice work. I'll have another assignment for you soon.

Don't copy word for word
Should you copy things word for word? No. The first and most important reason is copyright. In the case of sabermetrics, there's really no reason. The best alternative is to paraphrase (and then cite your source), or – if you really like the wording in your source and you think it must be included – then put it in quote marks and indicate beforehand who wrote/said it. (See Balzac for some examples.)

Also: Let me know if/when other things come up! – Scartol  ·  Talk  12:40, 30 October 2007 (UTC)
 * 1) Don't forget to sign your name. Use four tildes ( ~ ). (Your last comment on my talk page was unsigned; probably just an oversight.)
 * 2) When you're adding something new to a previous discussion, it's a good idea to block-indent your paragraph; do this by putting a colon before the first word. It makes conversations easier to read.

Assignment Number Two
Okay, I've got another project for you. I noticed you're a San Francisco Giants fan, so I looked around on its talk page. Someone recently created an article on announcer Hank Greenwald. It's a stub, and it needs citations and sources. Your assignment is to start with this article and add reliable information with citations. If you find other sources, great – but be careful! Many of the Google hits I found were links to blogs, and those are usually not reliable. Good luck and keep me posted. – Scartol  ·  Talk  17:42, 6 November 2007 (UTC)


 * Hello there, Daveroo. It's been more than a month since I've heard from you. Are you still interested in our adoption arrangement? If not, there are no hard feelings – just let me know. If I don't hear from you again in two weeks, I'll cross you off my list. Cheers. – Scartol  •  Tok  02:38, 12 December 2007 (UTC)


 * No big deal. Glad you're back. – Scartol  •  Tok  00:13, 25 December 2007 (UTC)


 * Sorry for the delay there. The Hank Greenwald article looks better, and while I'd like to see that copyright banner gone entirely, you've indicated a desire to work on non-sports-related articles, so I'll leave it for now.


 * Your next assignment is to fix the page on Spider Climbing. It's a bit of a mess there right now, but certainly fixable. Step one is to take it away from the current advert-like focus on only one company and recast it as an article about the phenomenon as a whole. I recommend using this article to ground it in verifiability. If you like, you might move the page to Spider climbing. Good luck, have fun, and let me know if you have any questions. – Scartol  •  Tok  20:42, 29 December 2007 (UTC)


 * Also, insofar as you've read up on it, do you have an opinion about this dispute on the Sabermetrics talk page? – Scartol  •  Tok  20:44, 29 December 2007 (UTC)

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Anyone there?
Daveroo, I haven't heard from you in a while, and it looks like you've not been working in these parts. I hope there's nothing I did wrong to dissuade you from being involved. (It occurred to me some weeks ago that "Spider climbing" – which has since been deleted – is a kind of sport, which you asked not to be assigned to work on.) Anyway, I'm going to remove you from my list of adoptees, but if you ever come back, give me a holler. – Scartol  •  Tok  23:39, 26 April 2008 (UTC)

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