User talk:Davey2010/Archive 2019 1

January-August → August-December

HAPPY NEW YEAR EVERYONE
HAPPY NEW YEAR EVERYONE I HOPE YOU ALL HAVE A HEALTHY AND HAPPY NEW YEAR – Davey 2010 Merry Christmas / Happy New Year 00:17, 1 January 2019 (UTC)


 * Thank you. I guess it's 2019 where you are. I've got another 4 1/2 hours. Cheers (figuratively or literally), BoringHistoryGuy (talk) 00:39, 1 January 2019 (UTC)


 * Hi, You're welcome, Come to the UK in December-January and then you can celebrate it :), Then again we can go to Yatutsk next year and celebrate New Years 9 hours from now! (or if you want to celebrate early Fairbakns could be the next holiday )
 * cheers! :) – Davey 2010 Merry Christmas / Happy New Year 00:49, 1 January 2019 (UTC)

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Happy New Year! Hello Davey2010: Thanks for all of your contributions to Wikipedia, and have a great New Year! Cheers, Walk Like an Egyptian (talk) 01:45, 1 January 2019 (UTC) Send New Year cheer by adding {{subst:Happy New Year snowman}} to people's talk pages with a friendly message.

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Happy New Year! Some celestial fireworks to herald another year of progress for mankind and Wikipedia. All the very best, Davey,

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 * Hi Kudpung กุดผึ้ง, Thanks so much, I hope you and all of your family have a very Happy, Healthy and Prosperous New Year, Take care, Thanks, – Davey 2010 Merry Christmas / Happy New Year 02:44, 1 January 2019 (UTC)

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 Davey2010 , Thanks for your contributions to Wikipedia, and a Happy New Year to you and yours! Kpg  jhp  jm  06:45, 1 January 2019 (UTC)


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Hi Gareth Griffith-Jones, Thanks so much!, And I wish you and yours a very Happy and Healthy New Year, Thanks, – Davey 2010 Merry Christmas / Happy New Year 11:53, 1 January 2019 (UTC)

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 Davey2010 , Thanks for your contributions to Wikipedia, and a Happy New Year to you and yours! North America1000 13:55, 1 January 2019 (UTC)


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 * Hi North 'Amazing' America, Thanks so much and I wish you and yours a very Happy and Healthy New Year, Thanks, – Davey 2010 Merry Christmas / Happy New Year 14:36, 1 January 2019 (UTC)


 * Hey, back at you "Diamond Dave", and have a fun year! North America1000 14:39, 1 January 2019 (UTC)
 * Thanks mate you too! :), Take care, – Davey 2010 Merry Christmas / Happy New Year 14:45, 1 January 2019 (UTC)

Happy New Year!
Right back at 'ya! FWiW Bzuk (talk) 14:42, 1 January 2019 (UTC)
 * Thanks mate, Take care, – Davey 2010 Merry Christmas / Happy New Year 14:44, 1 January 2019 (UTC)

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2019


Die Zeit, die Tag und Jahre macht

Happy 2019 -

begin it with music and memories

Thank you for your help last year, and your good wishes! --Gerda Arendt (talk) 17:43, 1 January 2019 (UTC)
 * Thanks Gerda Arendt for your lovely wishes, As with the beginning of every year mine was started with Slade - Auld Lang Syne :), Anyway I wish you and family a very Happy and Healthy New Year :), Take care, – Davey 2010 Merry Christmas / Happy New Year 17:55, 1 January 2019 (UTC)

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May 2019 be a happy and successful year for you! Thank you, Davey2010 for all your good will and dedication to Wikipedia in 2018 and particularly for your kind words when such words were really needed. With all my thanks,   Roman Spinner (talk • contribs) 23:14, 1 January 2019 (UTC)


 * Hi Roman Spinner, Thanks so much, and I wish you and yours a very Happy, Healthy and Prosperous New Year, Take care, – Davey 2010 Merry Christmas / Happy New Year 23:34, 1 January 2019 (UTC)

Invitation to join WikiProject Brands
✅ - Many thanks North "Amazing" America for the invite - I was meant to have replied after I joined but seemingly forgot, Anyway thanks :), – Davey 2010 Talk 22:29, 10 February 2019 (UTC)
 * I'm amazed and happy that you joined up! I created this project back in the day because many product articles and topics lacked a Wikiproject, so people would classify topics under the generic Business project and the more-related Companies project. North America1000 23:44, 10 February 2019 (UTC)

All Star Family Fortunes
Please stop reverting removal of the episode list. This information is not appropriate for Wikipedia based upon the guidelines and discussions linked on the talk page of the article. You personally have participated in four of those discussions arguing the same—1, 2, 3, 4—that this content is not appropriate for Wikipedia. AldezD (talk) 20:12, 4 January 2019 (UTC)
 * .... I'm a little confused .... I reverted my revert over 4 hours..... – Davey 2010 Talk 20:26, 4 January 2019 (UTC)

MFD
He's done the same on two others by the way - Wikipedia:Miscellany for deletion/User:GiantSnowman/Will Jaaskelainen and Wikipedia:Miscellany for deletion/User:GiantSnowman/Jayden Reid. GiantSnowman 15:39, 5 January 2019 (UTC)
 * Hi GiantSnowman, The mind truly boggles!, Sorry I would've closed those 2 had I known, AH well, Thanks, – Davey 2010 Talk 15:49, 5 January 2019 (UTC)
 * Thanks for closing the first as well Hhkohh (talk) 15:51, 5 January 2019 (UTC)
 * That's great, thanks! GiantSnowman 15:51, 5 January 2019 (UTC)

Caitlyn Jenner
No worries. Not that I'm crazy about white space-only edits either, but they're usually only a minor misdemeanor. In this case they (along with the fake edit summary) were an intentional smokescreen by  to cover his tracks for the more serious violation he was trying to get away with. (And did get away with, for half a day; should've nabbed that earlier.) So not surprised you didn't see the gender thing at first glance; that was the whole purpose behind his numerous white space changes. By the way, when you want to "reply" or leave a note in the history via edit summary, you can use a dummy edit without having to change the article or resort to a modified Undo; here's some examples.) Happy editing! Mathglot (talk) 21:09, 5 January 2019 (UTC)
 * Hi, I'm usually good at spotting stuff like that but somehow it just completely escaped me today so sorry about that,
 * He's certainly very sneaky that's for sure!,
 * Anyway inregards to the dummy edit I objected to the whitespace removal which is why I (partially) reverted - Had it been the infobox addition only then sure I would've done a dummy edit but I felt it was pointless to do a dummy edit and then change the infobox spacing again so I figured I'd kill 2 birds with one stone :),
 * Many thanks for your message, Thanks, – Davey 2010 Talk 21:48, 5 January 2019 (UTC)

Vw Golf
Hi Davey, I reverted your edit, because noting that you made a mistake. Vauxford's image shows an MK3 cabriolet image rather than an MK4 cabriolet. OSX's shows the MK4 cabriolet. I know this because one of my ex-teachers at school used to own one of these, and saw this at school. I hope you understand. -- Eurovision Nim (talk to me)(see my edits) 10:42, 6 January 2019 (UTC)


 * Hi Nim, I'll take another look, Many thanks, – Davey 2010 Talk 11:00, 6 January 2019 (UTC)


 * Hi User:EurovisionNim, Many thanks for spotting that, Bizarrely I thought something was wrong when I added it .... that was it!, Anyway many thanks for reverting, Cheers, – Davey 2010 Talk 11:07, 6 January 2019 (UTC)


 * Also another revert you made, of a perfectly fine Ford Kuga image that has been in the article without any problem, additionally Vauxford did some edits, which I approved of. How was Matthias image better than mine? Its completely squashed in and also its not showing the side view properly. I wasn't going to revert the edit, but you should understand that sometimes the best quality images do not have to be from the different authors. The previous photo was fine, and also it has been used without issue since August. It actually looks a lot nicer compared to the image. Why do you always believe that every article should have different authors? I am not being personal about my reverts, however I am slightly concerned about your editing behaviour, as it used to be how I made it. Also remember how you told me to follow WP:BRD? Well based on this edit, you reverted me back, thus not following WP:BRD. Also I am NOT mentioning CARPIX guidelines, this edit was based upon my years of experience in the car photography field. I've been mentored by a lot of people in relation to your images. Also note if I revert you, please discuss instead of reverting me. You are more than welcome to revert me IF I make the edit before you, and its not an improvement, otherwise I'll have to do BRD for you :) You are a caring friend and I don't want you to stress out. -- Eurovision Nim (talk to me)(see my edits) 10:42, 6 January 2019 (UTC)
 * I would consider those images fine and so they should remain, Please don't use BRD as a way to secure your images on the article - It won't work. – Davey 2010 Talk 11:07, 6 January 2019 (UTC)
 * Having compared both revisions I would say the front replacement image is much better however I agree the rear is not (because it doesn't show the whole car like the previous one did) so I've partially reverted, Thanks, – Davey 2010 Talk 11:10, 6 January 2019 (UTC)
 * I've set a compromise as per . Lets use M 93's image for the rear and then use mine for the front. That means that we get equal share and everyone is happy :-) -- Eurovision Nim (talk to me)(see my edits) 11:11, 6 January 2019 (UTC)
 * Looks great, lets leave as is now :) -- Eurovision Nim (talk to me)(see my edits) 11:12, 6 January 2019 (UTC)
 * Agreed :), Thanks, – Davey 2010 Talk 11:15, 6 January 2019 (UTC)
 * I also noted on this discussion you want me to have a topic ban for a year. Out of curiosity, isn't that a little bit harsh. Besides I've never had an ANI report before, this is my first time. I do indeed apologise, but I have indeed mellowed down lately. I've now stopped doing constant image replacements, rather I'm going to try and improve my shots. I guess that year I went too far, and I do indeed apologise for my behaviour that year. I guess now, its time for me to work on new sections. My latest edits,  i've been working on adding citations to the articles. So I've suggested this compromise. Instead of implementing a topic ban from automobiles firmly, why don't you implement a topic ban for me for the year you propose from replacing images. This means that I can work on expanding the article with Australian market, as a lot of people haven't been willing to type some facts, so I can step away from the picture segment, for a while and work on typing and making Wikipedia better. This means reduced image wars, therefore I can ensure we have a very comprehensive encylopedia. I thought you would like to consider this suggestion :-). Again, I'm terribly sorry about my behaviour and cause. -- Eurovision Nim  (talk to me)(see my edits) 11:20, 6 January 2019 (UTC)
 * Hi Nim, No worries, Happy editing, Thanks, – Davey 2010 Talk 13:10, 6 January 2019 (UTC)
 * Could you please reconsider changing the topic ban to maybe 5-6 months please. I will definitely change my behaviour then :). Also my images would have been massively improved. Could you tell me what you expect of a high quality image to your standards please, I really want you to mentor me :) -- Eurovision Nim (talk to me)(see my edits) 13:12, 6 January 2019 (UTC)
 * Hi, Sorry but I still feel a year is better but ofcourse others may disagree with me, Thanks, – Davey 2010 Talk 13:14, 6 January 2019 (UTC)
 * Just curiously why do you think? -- Eurovision Nim (talk to me)(see my edits) 13:15, 6 January 2019 (UTC)
 * I explained on the ANI thread, Happy editing!. Cheers, – Davey 2010 Talk 13:18, 6 January 2019 (UTC)

Just because you stopped doing it now doesn't mean the topic ban should be stop, personally I'm siding with Davey for a year, seeing the reactions of other users and proven that I'm not the only one who find you difficult to work with as well as your attempt of vote stacking it and asking people like 1292simon and indirectly to Oshwah. These "compromises" that you been making is basically sweeping the problems you caused under the rug. Davey be careful when discussing with Nim, don't let your talkpage become like mine that is flooded with this sort of discussion on a daily basis. --Vauxford (talk) 16:33, 6 January 2019 (UTC)


 * Hi Vauxford, Many thanks for your comments, Glad to see I'm not the only one who's noticed the subtle canvassing going on,
 * Anyway hopefully the topicban will be enacted and hopefully it will resolve a lot of the issues here, If problems continue after that then we can always revisit ANI but that's a long way off yet!,
 * Thanks, – Davey 2010 Talk 16:48, 6 January 2019 (UTC)


 * Believe in second chances. I wasn’t aware that vote stacking was a blocKable policy. I never actually intended for the voting system to go to bias, I only sent him the message as I wanted him to see what his opinion of working with me was. It seems a little big undignified that I should be banned despite making constant apologies. Besides there are larger issues admins should be handling such as Sockpuppets, vandals etc.


 * The thing I was talking to Oshwah about was a quick question, it had nothing to do with the ANI discussion as he knows about it already. All I asked him to help me with is an issue about accessing the #Wikipedia-en. Another thing I was also confuse about was how if by enacting a topic ban I wanted someone to fully clarify what articles I cannot edit and what others I can. I feel like my time is to drive away other editors and not contribute well. But now looking back, I took the time to read your complaints and then I’ve suddenly felt you and me have been arguing too much about these silly little issues that was caused by me. Besides WP:VOTESTACK I was not even made aware of the issue but you lot need to jam it in my face so now I know. Which indeed I did. Some of these policies don’t really make any sense. Okay — Eurovision Nim (talk to me)(see my edits) 16:45, 6 January 2019 (UTC)


 * ✅ - The image issue has been resolved, I would rather we didn't discuss ANI and all that, Thanks all. – Davey 2010 Talk 16:51, 6 January 2019 (UTC)

Please stop these unnecessary replacements
Hi Davey, this is a friendly reminder for you to stop replacing lower quality examples that do not comply to image standards (I.e. 3/4 angle and nice background) - theres no justification to replacing all the images back to their own versions. Remember quality is not all about pixels or background, if an image is representable then it should be used. I don’t intend for my reverts to stay but I’m only happy with replacements if they are higher quality and meet a certain requirement 😃— Eurovision Nim  (talk to me)(see my edits) 17:06, 6 January 2019 (UTC)
 * Hi Nim, Like I said I have an issue with the articles consisting ALL of Australian pictures, My replacements were all from different countries and as such should remain, I have no problem with Aussie pictures I just want articles to have a mixture ... not ALL from one country and ALL from one photographer (OSX) .... Thanks, – Davey 2010 Talk 17:11, 6 January 2019 (UTC)
 * Not being rude mate, but this is a really lame excuse. Do you intend on just shoving EU images. On the VW Golf MK7 article ONLY ONE image belonged to OSX and you think that all Australian images belong to him? Vauxford accused me of edit warring. Look I’m getting to the end of my ropes. I’m trying my best to illustrate with high quality shots but you and Vauxford gang up on me and accuse me of edit warring which I absolutely did not do. You were the one who started it and I reverted you and then you reverted back not following BRD. For one thing, I’m fed up of you swearing and just being a pain. You just try to annoy me for long time. I think Wikipedia is being riddled with mediocre images, yet you guys insist on replacing them for no reason. Look, Vauxford is being a pain by pushing his Golf image to the article when the white car was perfectly fine. How come you two just believe that UK cars should exist only, why? Is Australia not on the map? I don’t know, but it’s getrign me tired — Eurovision Nim (talk to me)(see my edits) 17:17, 6 January 2019 (UTC)
 * I noticed that which was why I added the rear back,
 * No one's ganging up on you and I'm sorry you feel that way - Like I said I'm simply replacing a few images here and there,
 * Well if you think it's a lame excuse then that's your opinion but from where I'm sitting it's a valid reason.
 * I'm not swearing .... I don't think I've swore him for quite a few months.....,
 * I said a variety ... UK, Germany, Africa, Australia, Japan, Any country on the map basically.
 * – Davey 2010 Talk 17:22, 6 January 2019 (UTC)


 * I would of left this discussion to you guys but seeing Nim name drop me over something that potentially never happened. "pushing his Golf image to the article when the white car was perfectly fine" what white car? Going through the history I don't see anywhere where we clash over a white car and my image? You making things up as you go on.--Vauxford (talk) 17:31, 6 January 2019 (UTC)
 * Yeah just to clarify I'm the one who added Vauxfords image (and then removed it), Vauxford has not been involved with any of the recent replacements atleast as far as I know. – Davey 2010 Talk 17:34, 6 January 2019 (UTC)
 * I have not had an issue with Davey in relation to the images, but you I do. This was actually not my own image, however I did extract it to a new file from OSX. Because Commons policies states that you cannot overwrite existing files, thereby I created a new file, because I wanted to crop out some excessive distractions. I never intended to replace with my horrible example (my grey one is horrible). Honestly, I prefer cars that are white due to the fact (and correct me if I'm wrong), have very minimal reflections. Look, I had no intentions of edit warring, but Davey keeps doing unnecessary replacements. I've almost slowly learnt my way around Wikipedia, yet you insist that I edit warred. Besides, with you handling all the replacements, articles will be flooded with mediocre images (now correct me if I'm wrong). I like some of Vauxford's images, however personally (and feel free to disagree with me), hes going a teensy bit too far, which I've been doing. Before publishing, do not worry about who took the photo, worry about whether the quality of the image is sufficient enough. Also, stop accusing me of edit warring, when in fact I was trying to correct an error he made. On numerous occassions, I've had to correct him, . What I hate about Wikipedia, is that people replace images based on their opinion. I do indeed have these problems myself, so I do apologise, but I do it when I KNOW the image looks to be in proper factory condition. Some of the replacements Davey have made are horrible, yet he insists on these. I would have overwritten the original file, but I got blocked for that on Commons, so thats why to avoid any further consequences, I create a new file (except my own uploads of course :-P) -- Eurovision Nim (talk to me)(see my edits) 00:42, 7 January 2019 (UTC)
 * EurovisionNim (Nim): You are showing signs of WP:OWN and also blame others for your actions or if they disagree with your view/opinion. You (Nim) should cease your unhealthy obsession, I'm already starting to think you need to be blocked rather than being topic banned, until you can understand what your doing is completely getting out of hand and disruptive. Bidgee (talk) 01:53, 7 January 2019 (UTC)
 * I have no desire to bash this out over and over again, I've stated why I've replaced a few images and please bear in mind any editor on this project can replace any image as and when they please,
 * If you don't like my actions feel free to start an ANI thread on what a terrible person I am,
 * just incase you're not aware - Nim has single handedly gone to every single Wikimedia project here and added their car images to all of them .... so this goes well beyond EN and I feel this goes beyond OWN in some respects, In all fairness I believe OSX did the exact same thing (seeing as there images too are on all projects),
 * This is one unhealthy obsession and I've never seen anything like it!. – Davey 2010 Talk 02:16, 7 January 2019 (UTC)

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(For Davey2010) I did not delete anything in my edits at all
Or at least I don't think I did.

P. S: Why did you delete the bit that said TSAT were sponsoring the school? Doomotron (talk) 22:36, 11 January 2019 (UTC)


 * Hi Doomotron, I'm currently sorting through my images over at Commons so once I'm done there I'll take a lot at your edits and see why I deleted them and then will obviously reply here after, Thanks, – Davey 2010 Talk 23:04, 11 January 2019 (UTC)


 * I know that it appears that I have deleted text but I was actually moving text by copying and pasting it. I said on the editor notes that I was publishing edits in small 'chunks', if you will - this was done to avoid that glitch where two or more people edit the same article at the same time (I can't remember the name). Overall I have only added content to the article. Doomotron (talk) 23:20, 11 January 2019 (UTC)
 * ✅ - your edits reinstated and infobox reinstated, Cheers, – Davey 2010 Talk 23:28, 11 January 2019 (UTC)
 * Hi again Doomotron, Sorry I was busy elsewhere and was constantly receiving notifications that you edited the talkpage, Anyway the moment I reverted you I realised the edit summary was incorrect and was supposed to have self-reverted but somehow that doesn't appear to have happened, Anyway I've self reverted now and I've also moved the infobox up :), Thanks, – Davey 2010 Talk 23:40, 11 January 2019 (UTC)
 * Thanks Davey. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Doomotron (talk • contribs) 11:58, 12 January 2019 (UTC)
 * You're welcome Doomotron, Happy editing :), – Davey 2010 Talk 12:01, 12 January 2019 (UTC)
 * Now I have to move the article to change its name. Thanks, happy editing. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Doomotron (talk • contribs) 12:04, 12 January 2019 (UTC)

Til
I thought about saying something like that. If he dares mention that he apologised to me and DBachmann (saying we were top editors and he was jealous of this and, I think, he had a bridge he wanted to sell), I was going to say that I wouldn't accept an apology from someone who.... Doug Weller talk 17:12, 13 January 2019 (UTC)


 * Hi Doug, I wanted the comment to stay but I had a feeling by tomorrow tons of people would come flooding to my talkpage complaining about it!, Ofcourse we all have different opinions on things but some opinions should stay behind closed doors, Anyway the sooner he's shown the door the better!,
 * Thanks for your message, Take care. – Davey 2010 Talk 17:26, 13 January 2019 (UTC)

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Hi Dave
I am trying to update the Ferryhill page as it has some invalid links and I would like to share some additional information. Please can you not revert the page? I am only trying to get it up to speed. Darrellsnixon (talk) 21:21, 14 January 2019 (UTC)
 * Hi Darrellsnixon, I like you already! :) (because you called me Dave and not Davey!), The issue I have is that you were trying to promote yourself and family members which is the quick way to get blocked, Inregareds to your latest edit (removing the link) this can be changed to an archive link, I would kindly suggest you don't add yourself, family members or your work to this project otherwise like i said you will be blocked, You're than welcome to update the page,
 * Thanks, – Davey 2010 Talk 21:31, 14 January 2019 (UTC)
 * I'm going to leave Ferryhill alone for the rest of my night. I am worried that I had annoyed you due to your last edsum? -Roxy, the dog . wooF 23:22, 14 January 2019 (UTC)
 * Hi User:Roxy the dog, No no I wasn't annoyed with you - I was annoyed as I thought I was removing the crap but instead I was inserting it all back in - My fault entirely I should've looked at each edit before reverting - Some editors tend to allow the edits and then tidy up whereas I simply revert that editor but yeah my fault sorry!,
 * Thanks, – Davey 2010 Talk 00:07, 15 January 2019 (UTC)

Sid Chaplin
Good morning, Dave.

Can we add Sid Chaplin, Author and Journalist to the notable people of Ferryhill? Darrellsnixon (talk) 07:58, 15 January 2019 (UTC)


 * Good afternoon Darrell, Generally we only include people if they have articles, Many thanks, – Davey 2010 Talk 13:07, 15 January 2019 (UTC)ge


 * Good evening – Davey 2010 Talk Sid Chaplin was a resident in Ferryhill between 1931 and 1953, there is a page about him https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sid_Chaplin could you perhaps add him in the Notable people's section as I am no longer touching pages anymore. On Sid Chaplin's page there is an error of his place of death, it mentions Ferryhill but in fact he died at Grasmere, Cumbria.  Sorry for the trouble I had caused yesterday.  I am removing myself as editor as I don't want the hassle. All the best to you. Darrellsnixon (talk) 19:42, 15 January 2019 (UTC)


 * Good evening Darrell, Providing you don't add your name or any relatives on any article here I'd be more than happy for you to do this yourself - You can add *Sid Chaplin to the bottom of that section,
 * Inregards to his death if you have a source saying this then I'd be more than happy for you to change it :),
 * I appreciate you didn't exactly get off to the best of starts here but in all fairness no one here did - Anyway if you don't promote yourself or your website then you'll be treated like everyone else here and obviously in terms of editing you need to start somewhere - You'll make mistakes and more than once here but the more you edit the more you get the hang of it so as I said I'd be more than happy for you to edit the article but like I said the promotional stuff needs to be knocked off,
 * Thanks, – Davey 2010 Talk 19:51, 15 January 2019 (UTC)

Images should not be thumbs in an infobox
Please see https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:Pages_using_infoboxes_with_thumbnail_images They put the image to the right hand side.Thanks --Akrasia25 (talk) 20:27, 15 January 2019 (UTC)


 * Yes I know Akrasia25, I reverted you by mistake and I thought that would've been obvious by my immediate revert soon after ..... Thanks, – Davey 2010 Talk 20:32, 15 January 2019 (UTC)

England over UK,
Lets have a look at some other biographies, Jimmy Wales, Patrick Stewart, James Corden say England, Elizabeth II says United Kingdom, shouldn't really have UK in the format like that on Emilia Clarke. Govvy (talk) 19:51, 17 January 2019 (UTC)


 * Govvy - Why should "UK" be ommited but "US" shouldn't ?, Also the Queen does have UK in the infobox, Cheers, – Davey 2010 Talk 19:56, 17 January 2019 (UTC)


 * No, the Queen doesn't have UK like you point out, it's written, United Kingdom. Because she is the Queen of the United Kingdom That's a big difference. However everyone else of none royal blood, between biographies, most bio's for people from England are written England, from Scotland, Scotland, because we are a regional and the UK is dropped. It's been like that for a long time. Why o why, are editors not noticing this old policy. Govvy (talk) 20:10, 17 January 2019 (UTC)


 * Govvy - No idea, You're more than welcome to go to the talkpage and seek consensus for your changes (or point to this policy in which case I may self revert.), Cheers, – Davey 2010 Talk 20:14, 17 January 2019 (UTC)
 * O, for fuck sake, have a look at #birth_place it clearly says For modern subjects, the country should generally be a sovereign state; for United Kingdom locations, the constituent countries of the UK are sometimes used instead, when more appropriate in the context. Govvy (talk) 20:18, 17 January 2019 (UTC)
 * Govvy - Don't fucking swear on my fucking talkpage!, Jokes aside as this has remained in the article for over 10 years I would say you should go the talkpage as there doesn't seem to be an actual guideline that says UK shouldn't be listed - I wouldn't consider the infobox doc to be a guideline it's more or less an opinion, Sorry, Cheers, – Davey 2010 Talk 20:39, 17 January 2019 (UTC)


 * And I see the discussion has been fragmented amongst pages instead of being centralised on the article talkpage. --Emir of Wikipedia (talk) 22:52, 17 January 2019 (UTC)


 * Clarkes article was London, England for ages, I still don't get the change. London, UK? England is in the UK!, England is the country... Govvy (talk) 23:24, 17 January 2019 (UTC)


 * And another thing, correct prose is U.K. not UK. Govvy (talk) 23:27, 17 January 2019 (UTC)
 * (Diamond Dave page watcher) That's debatable, at least in the U.S. Check out MLA and The Chicago Manual of Style. North America1000 00:54, 18 January 2019 (UTC)
 * Hi North America, Oh wow I never knew there was a debate on it - I always thought it was U.S yet now I think about it I've never abbreviated UK as "U.K" ... hmm weird, – Davey 2010 Talk 13:27, 18 January 2019 (UTC)
 * I guess there's a debate about just about everything nowadays. Well, the MLA info says to just be consistent with whatever abbreviation is chosen. I've had this topic come up in other areas of life, so I figured I'd post here. Enjoy! North America1000 15:42, 18 January 2019 (UTC)
 * Ah okay well thanks for sharing :), It would be interesting to know what abbreviation is used the most as then you could just go by that ... well that may not work, Ah well thanks for sharing :), Take care, – Davey 2010 Talk 15:53, 18 January 2019 (UTC)
 * Just for grins and giggles, thought I'd point out the MOS for U.S. vs. US vs. USA: MOS:NOTUSA. Doesn't seem to have been quite the issue with the UK, but I would think the same general principle should hold. Onel 5969  <i style="color:blue">TT me</i> 15:55, 18 January 2019 (UTC)


 * I remember that now (MOS:US). Pretty much the same deal, to just be consistent. So, I'll be sure to always use "U.S. of A." when writing! North America1000 16:10, 18 January 2019 (UTC)

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Hi Davey2010, I've added this access for you - but please keep in mind that it can easily be used to break lots of things, and updating highly used templates and modules really isn't a good place IAR most of the time. Previewing may not always be enough either, the biggest templates have dedicated sandboxes and test cases that should be carefully reviewed. If ever in doubt, discuss first. Frankly, I'm was a little put off by your block log, but it's been a while and I'm all about AGF. Heavily used template and module functions should be considered 1RR. Best wishes, — xaosflux  Talk 03:14, 29 January 2019 (UTC)


 * Hi User:Xaosflux, My sincere apologies for not getting back sooner - had a busy morning and then once I wasn't busy I ended up completely forgetting to come back here!, Thanks so much for granting me TE it's very much appreciated,
 * Despite the IAR banner here templates are certainly going to be an exception - Obviously I need to tread extremely carefully with templates so for the most visible ones I'll copy them over to my own sandbox or use a sandbox provided but then again I may not even touch those,
 * Generally these days I'm more mellow and certainly more chilled, Inregards to edit warring I'll be following 1RR on all templates regardless of whether I'm right or wrong,
 * Anyway many thanks again for granting this,
 * Thanks, Regards, Dave/– Davey 2010 Talk 21:48, 29 January 2019 (UTC)

Iveco Daily
The only vandalic wikipedia is you. You change the photos by changing them, you do not even change the caption when you change the image, you are not the owner of wikipedia. Wikipedia belongs to everyone. and you are going to be blocked, I'm going to denounce you to the community, Cascorrin (talk) 19:23, 30 January 2019 (UTC)


 * you do not even change the caption when you change the image - Cascorrin No I don't because the only language I speak and know is English (although I know a small amount of French but that's besides the point),
 * "you are not the owner of wikipedia" - Could you provide diffs of where I said I was because to my knowledge I've never once claimed I was the owner,
 * "Wikipedia belongs to everyone" - Technically it doesn't, It belongs to the WMF,
 * I'm going to denounce you to the community" - Please go ahead, Be my guest, I'll grab the popcorn. – Davey 2010 Talk 19:37, 30 January 2019 (UTC)
 * Hey Davey2010. As the denouncing begins I do hope you don't weigh the same as a duck :-) Cheers. MarnetteD&#124;Talk 19:52, 30 January 2019 (UTC)
 * Hi MarnetteD, Thanks for sharing that, That video was such a beautiful timing and rather fitting :), Haha I think weigh more lol. – Davey 2010 Talk 20:02, 30 January 2019 (UTC)


 * (Diamond Davey page watcher) Diamond Flat Icon GIF Animation.gif: Regarding "the only language I speak and know is English", you could try out Google translate. It works fairly well for many languages. Otherwise, if #4 above goes down, here's a truckload for you. North America1000 21:52, 30 January 2019 (UTC)
 * Hi North America, My bad I was trying to emphasise that I don't speak any other language except English.... obviously I know other languages exist :), Imagine going travelling in that!, Popcorn for Breakfast, Popcorn for Dinner and even Popcorn for dessert, You'd end up turning into a popcorn after a week of living off of it lol – Davey 2010 Talk 21:58, 30 January 2019 (UTC)


 * My point was that GTranslate can be used to translate English to other languages, in case you didn't know about this resource. The other point is... popcorn, and don't forget the butter. North America1000 22:00, 30 January 2019 (UTC)
 * Ah right sorry, I've used Google Translate although I'm not exactly confident that it's correct at times :), – Davey 2010 Talk 22:15, 30 January 2019 (UTC)
 * 'Tis all good. Communicating via text can be ambiguous at times. Well, all I have left to say is, "if you don't eat your meat you can't have any popcorn, how can you have any popcorn, if you don't eat your meat? Shine on you crazy diamond, North America1000 23:08, 30 January 2019 (UTC)

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Please provide a meaningful edit summary, especially when reverting
You reverted the addition of a photo to Opel Karl with the edit summary "Not needed". Per WP:FIES this is inadequate. Please explain your motives for the edit. --Cornellier (talk) 18:50, 2 February 2019 (UTC)
 * - "Not needed" was a sufficient reasoning and it's worth noting your link to FIES is not only irrelevant but pointless as an edit summary was provided .... it just wasn't a 1000 word essay as you would have liked.
 * Anyway to answer your specific question our readers will want to know what the vehicle looks like ... the majority wont give a toss about what the engine looks like .... it would be no different to me including a picture of the windshield washer ..... both images would be useless to the average reader, Cheers. – Davey 2010 Talk 19:01, 2 February 2019 (UTC)
 * Your opinion is not shared by editors at other Wikipedia language editions, including the German, Russian, and Dutch ones, which include a photo of the engine bay, showing the unusual three spark plug wires. --Cornellier (talk) 22:56, 4 February 2019 (UTC)
 * Well they're different projects and all do things differently (just like on all other projects you can edit war to your hearts content and nothing gets done whereas over here if you try to edit war you get reported to 3RRNO and then get blocked for an X amount of time), What other projects do has no bearing on my edits or how I do things,
 * I'm not quite sure why after 2 days you've chosen to reply but either way nothing meaningful's going to come of this. – Davey 2010 Talk 23:04, 4 February 2019 (UTC)

Consensus on article archive color closures
It's really funny you mention this. I actually had a discussion with about it - User talk:DBigXray/Archive2019 1. Also, I designed Archive top yellow and think it looks rather nice.. ― <em style="color:black">Matthew J. Long -Talk-<sup style="font-size:75%">☖  15:52, 4 February 2019 (UTC)
 * Hi User:MattLongCT, ANI does indeed only use atop although different editors do different things (like for instance I see someone's used a red box there),
 * Whilst I do agree it can seem confusing with both blue boxes on top of each other I've done it this way from well over 3-4 years and I've never been told otherwise,
 * Had you (or anyone else) reclosed it under a different box colour then it would've been left at that as I don't (never have and never will) change others box colours - You changing it gives the impression I closed it as such when I obviously didn't,
 * Personally I think the yellow box is awful as is the red and green ones but again we all like different things :),
 * Thanks, – Davey 2010 Talk 15:59, 4 February 2019 (UTC)
 * I'll leave the discretion up to you as the closer then. I'm too lazy to ask if they would like to change their archive box color, so I guess it is going to stay. &#8213; <em style="color:black">Matthew J. Long  -Talk-<sup style="font-size:75%">☖  16:02, 4 February 2019 (UTC)
 * I have no problems if they want to change theres but I'm gonna go on a limb and saying they probably wont as it's the standard closing template there :), Anyway thanks, – Davey 2010 Talk 16:24, 4 February 2019 (UTC)

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Clarifying
Your attempts were fine. They just didn't work, so it's time to change strategies. <b style="color: red;">E</b><b style="color: blue;">Eng</b> 17:12, 4 February 2019 (UTC)
 * Clearly they weren't fine, If people are on the verge of being blocked then I will from this point forward say nothing and allow them to get blocked, If that's the thanks I get then what the hell is the point. – Davey 2010 Talk 17:15, 4 February 2019 (UTC)
 * Look, your heart was in the right place, but you misread the person you were trying to help. It's OK, no one thinks badly of you. Don't be deterred from trying again in a similar circumstance. That's why I took the trouble to come here. <b style="color: red;">E</b><b style="color: blue;">Eng</b> 17:19, 4 February 2019 (UTC)
 * honestly don't think I did but ah well it's done now, Thanks for coming here it is greatly appreciated,
 * Also many thanks for your comment earlier I'll check the links out later! :),
 * Thanks, – Davey 2010 Talk 17:27, 4 February 2019 (UTC)

The Sustainability Initiative
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reopened
No. You are not. And I was not criticizing you for reopening it. I think Guy really, really needs to let go of it. FWIW. I thought he was too. <b style="color:black">Dloh cier ekim </b> (talk) 14:19, 6 February 2019 (UTC)


 * Hi, No I am not what ? .. sorry? ...I'm confused there sorry,
 * I completely agree at this point he's IMHO beating a dead horse now, I don't see how any good is going to come of it I really don't, I just really really wished I checked his admin/non-admin status before reopening it but there we are,
 * Thanks, – Davey 2010 Talk 14:29, 6 February 2019 (UTC)
 * Forgot to add I know you wasn't criticising me but right now I feel like absolute shit for reopening it as in reality I've now (unintentionally) created more drama, Just absolutely regret not checking his admin/na shizz first I really do. – Davey 2010 Talk 14:31, 6 February 2019 (UTC)
 * Not stupid or an idiot or whatever prejorative it was. Don't beat yourself up. The drama is all his. <b style="color:black">Dloh cier ekim </b>  (talk) 14:56, 6 February 2019 (UTC)
 * Ahhh the edit summary sorry I didn't think anyone would've seen that, Well whateever the outcome ends up I plan to stay away from that thread as well as his talkpage, Anyway many thanks for your message it's much appreciated, Thanks, – Davey 2010 Talk 15:04, 6 February 2019 (UTC)

A barnstar for you!

 * Hi Victoria&#39;s Angel, Thanks so much for the barnstar and You're welcome, If you have any other issues let me know and I'll help the best I can :), Thanks, – Davey 2010 Talk 15:12, 7 February 2019 (UTC)

Leave the channel's programming section alone
Hi Davey, this is HappyINC. I need you to leave the channel's programmming section alone. We nned to know what AIRS on the channel. On Pop (UK and Ireland) and Tiny Pop, I tried my best on adding sources for proof for the programs that airs on channel. And yet you still removed it. Tell me, What do you have against programming? From, HappyINC
 * , You nor I OWN any article so as such I'm entitled to revert as and when I please, That being said I'll take a look at the sourcing, If they're adequately sourced then I'd be happy for these to be kept, Thanks, – Davey 2010 Talk 15:37, 8 February 2019 (UTC)
 * I've reinstated the programming on both articles, Given we have List of programmes broadcast by Cartoon Network (UK & Ireland) it's IMHO nonseniscal to not include programming for other channels, As both articles include sourcing for most programmes I don't see why these shouldn't be added, Cheers, – Davey 2010 Talk 15:51, 8 February 2019 (UTC)

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Some chocolate for you!

 * Hi User:Northamerica1000, Thanks so much and a Happy Valentines to you too. – Davey 2010 Talk 02:42, 10 February 2019 (UTC)

Clarice Phelps AFD
Hi Davey. The structure of the tweet you've linked is a bit confusing because of the double negative but it's "The problem is not that X or that Y but Z", where the first "not" applies to both X and Y, so I read the tweet as stating: I know the AFD has just closed, but I think that an explicit redaction of comment/apology might be appropriate. Cheers, ~Hydronium~Hydroxide~(Talk)~ 08:31, 11 February 2019 (UTC)
 * The problem is that there are very few reliable references
 * Phelps is notable
 * Editors are not (in this case being) a bunch of sexist trolls
 * Hi User:Hydronium Hydroxide, Thanks so much for bringing this to my attention!, Somehow I'd missed the "not", Agreed the structure is confusing she could've just said Z instead of the whole "it's not because of x or y but it's because of z", That being said it's entirely my fault for not reading it correctly so my apologies for that, I've since removed it, Many thanks, – Davey 2010 Talk 11:03, 11 February 2019 (UTC)

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Just a number
Hi, I do prefer to be 'just a random IP' for now. I do appreciate the thought. Regards, 2A04:4540:906:F00:E5DA:7506:2349:BE0B (talk) 20:49, 12 February 2019 (UTC)


 * Hi User:2A04:4540:906:F00:E5DA:7506:2349:BE0B, Not a problem at all I know signing up isn't for everyone and that's cool, As I said given IPs change all the time I just thought it'd be a shame if your contributions were lost, But anyway not a problem,
 * Thanks again for your contributions here,
 * Take care, – Davey 2010 Talk 20:53, 12 February 2019 (UTC)


 * I don't care much about having contributions attributed towards me. Any edit made is in good faith and I stand by it. Unless there is a hidden economy that allows exchange of contribution points for rewards that I haven't heard about?
 * Regards, 2A04:4540:906:F00:E5DA:7506:2349:BE0B (talk) 21:08, 12 February 2019 (UTC)


 * Okie dokie no worries, Nope unfortunately not, Happy editing, – Davey 2010 Talk 21:37, 12 February 2019 (UTC)

Vandalism
It is normal? https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Domenico_Morgante&diff=883474514&oldid=883474382&diffmode=source https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Domenico_Morgante&diff=883474988&oldid=883474907&diffmode=source — Preceding unsigned comment added by Driante70 (talk • contribs) 17:06, 15 February 2019 (UTC)
 * Nope, Thanks for reverting them. – Davey 2010 Talk 17:30, 15 February 2019 (UTC)

Pixabay images uploaded on/after January 9, 2019 are unfree
Dear Davey,

On January 9, 2019, Pixabay made their images uploaded after this date Unfree. Before that it was CC0. Hence, the new 'updated' license template here: File:London Bus (1464575).jpg

This image was CC0 when you uploaded it, so I reviewed it. But now Pixabay is no longer free sadly. BUT, if the image was Uploaded to PixaBay BEFORE January 9, 2019, then it can be uploaded to Commons.
 * Example: File:Fukugami Station platforms and tracks 2018-01-24.jpg The upload date to Pixabay was February 8, 2018 as the source says. Best,

You don't have to reply to my message. Best, --Leoboudv (talk) 01:04, 18 February 2019 (UTC)


 * Hi, Thanks for the message but I already knew as I participated in the discussion somewhere :), I thought you were going to say there was an issue with the image so very glad there wasn't :), Thanks, – Davey 2010 Talk 02:30, 18 February 2019 (UTC)

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 * There is a proposal to add a red link to mobile search results if there is no page with that name. This is how it works on desktop. You can leave feedback.

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Please comment on Wikipedia:Reliable sources/Noticeboard
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Wikimedia commons links
Re Saga Cruises and others. What is the point in replacing a simple and adequate template to link to Wikimedia commons material, as used on many hundreds of pages, with a verbose link and an inaccurate sub-heading? Murgatroyd49 (talk) 14:34, 19 February 2019 (UTC)


 * Hi, My reasoning for adding an external link header and changing commons to commons-inline is because the commons template looks oddly placed ... It doesn't look right it being directly under references. It's generally preferred to have the commons template under an external links section instead of it just being randomly placed anywhere, I feel comparing the last revision to mine IMHO mine looks a lot neater and better,
 * The header is standard across all articles whether it's just a Commons link or not (IE we don't have ==Commons category==
 * Thanks, – Davey 2010 Talk 14:48, 19 February 2019 (UTC)
 * We will have to agree to disagree, I think it looks messy the way you do it.  I see no problem it appearing bottom right as it does on most other pages.  Your non-standard presentation actually makes it more difficult to find if you are used to the standard layout. Murgatroyd49 (talk) 15:42, 19 February 2019 (UTC)
 * Murgatroyd49 Ofcourse my way doesn't work all the time and I would probably say just under half are never changed - If it looks silly or if it drags the article on so to speak then I won't change it I suppose it but I guess it comes down to the layout really,
 * Thanks, – Davey 2010 Talk 16:17, 19 February 2019 (UTC)
 * Thanks, – Davey 2010 Talk 16:17, 19 February 2019 (UTC)

Commons Links
(Moved from below. – Davey 2010 Talk 19:56, 12 March 2019 (UTC))

What is wrong with using the correct icon links for Wikimedia commns on the Red Eagle, Red Osprey and Red Kestrel pages? Murgatroyd49 (talk) 13:54, 12 March 2019 (UTC)
 * Hi, We've already had a discussion on this here where it was decided we should agree to disagree, Like I said in that discussion my changes depend on the layout of the article and again "External links" is the norm even if there are no external links, Cheers, – Davey 2010 Talk 13:58, 12 March 2019 (UTC)
 * Doesn't explain your insistence on removing the icon link. Murgatroyd49 (talk) 14:29, 12 March 2019 (UTC)
 * Murgatroyd49 Sorry if I'm sounding dense but could you clarify what you mean ? ...
 * If you mean replacing the Commons box with an inlined version then I have explained this above which I'll requote "It's generally preferred to have the commons template under an external links section instead of it just being randomly placed anywhere"
 * Ofcourse on a few of the articles the commons box is directly under the infobox (such as here) however with this article it requires more scrolling and it drags the article on whereas having it my way reduces the length of the article and plus our readers then can find it much more easily - We don't know why people come to thes earticles, It may be for the information or it simply may be for the images so IMHO my way is much more helpful,
 * Thanks ,– Davey 2010 Talk 14:39, 12 March 2019 (UTC)
 * That doesn't answer the question as to why use the inline version rather than the icon version as used more generally. It is a matter of consistency. Murgatroyd49 (talk) 15:22, 12 March 2019 (UTC)
 * I don't see a problem with that, you can precede it with an ==External Links== subheader if you want to. Murgatroyd49 (talk) 15:22, 12 March 2019 (UTC)
 * Well it does answer the question, I already do?......, Thanks for your message!. – Davey 2010 Talk 19:54, 12 March 2019 (UTC)

Disputed non-free use rationale for File:Childline Logo 1998.gif
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Talk to us about talking
The Wikimedia Foundation is planning a global consultation about communication. The goal is to bring Wikimedians and wiki-minded people together to improve tools for communication.

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 * 3) Then ask people what they think about communication processes.  We want to hear stories and other information about how people communicate with each other on and off wiki.  Please consider asking these five questions:
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The Signpost: 28 February 2019
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Date formats
Just to let you know why I do block reverts of all your edits when you do date changes. Usually you make the date changes by script in the first edit. Then you make further edits (cleaning white space, adding template, etc). I have no problem with the further edits. I always take the time to attempt to revert only the date change edit. However, when I try to revert the single date change edit, WP tells me that the other edits conflict with that single undo. Therefore, it becomes an all or nothing revert. I'm certainly not going to leave the date changes there, so my only option left is to revert the lot. If you did the date changes last then I could revert the date changes while leaving the good changes intact.  Stepho  talk 10:38, 5 March 2019 (UTC)
 * Hi Stepho-wrs, I've always done it this way since being here - Date formats first and everything thereafter, You've had issues with my date formats on various article for quite some time however it's only you that has an issue with it,
 * As I've said before I'm not going to keep a long list of articles that I shouldn't use the script on just to keep you happy - If various other editors had the same qualms then fine but IMHO it's not worth the effort all for the sake of one editor out of 5 billion!,
 * Not to be disrespectful but I also don't see why I should change way I edit here all for the sake of one editor either,
 * The best advice I can give is to simply revert and reapply my edits thereafter,
 * Thanks, – Davey 2010 Talk 11:20, 5 March 2019 (UTC)


 * If you are doing the right thing then you would have an argument that you could tell to the administrators to stop me reverting you. Other people being too lazy or turning a blind eye or perhaps their ignorance of the MOS is not an excuse. From my perspective, I see someone who keeps illegally changing the date format and then expects me to carefully sift through their changes to keep or not keep individual changes. Why should I have to spend ages picking through your changes? A tiny change to the order in which you apply your edits and the problem goes away for both of us.  Stepho  talk 11:47, 5 March 2019 (UTC)
 * If you went to ANI I would say exactly what I said here and if I'm sanctioned for that so be it,
 * It could be thousands of things - As you say editor's are too lazy to care, ignorance of MOS or IMHO they simply agree with my edits or don't see them violating MOS - As I said you can probably come up with over a thousand excuses however as I said I see it as people agreeing with my edits and I would assume if they did' disagree they'd come here,
 * If you don't revert me then there's no issue is there ?, Not to be funny but as I said you're the only one with continuous issues on this,
 * You're more than welcome to install importScript('User:Plastikspork/date.js'); and importScript('User:Ohconfucius/script/MOSNUM dates.js'); //User:Ohconfucius/script/MOSNUM dates.js to your Special:common.js page - Once installed you can click on "BIGENDIAN ref dates" and "UnSprk: cite date" which will then change those articles back but like I said given I don't keep track all of what I edit however doing it this way will hopefully put an end to this silliness.
 * Cheers, – Davey 2010 Talk 12:25, 5 March 2019 (UTC)
 * Your .js page would be located at User:Stepho-wrs/common.js. – Davey 2010 Talk 12:27, 5 March 2019 (UTC)

Please comment on Talk:Moran Mor Athanasius Yohan Metropolitan
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 * Pages can use geocoordinates from Wikidata with the  Lua function or the   parser function. If they do, they will now be shown using  mw:Special:MyLanguage/Help:Extension:Kartographer if the wiki can use Kartographer. You can report bugs or ask questions on Phabricator.
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Emily Bear/ ssilvers and friends
I have informed people - as it seems ssilvers is a NY business and contract lawyer. There is obviously conflictof interest. Now I understand the double standard handling.Very likely there are personal/professional interests especially at JE article and hanling of others. What does one have to pay for a top rating..the same as getting kids to Harvard .. Just to let you know.

There are a few more mentioning of Emily Bear and her music in Nancy Drew reviews vulture, variety...if someone wants to update her article in future.

not my problem anymore..if &ssilvers loose his licence..maybe up to other lawyers. Goodbye english wiki and this kindergarden.Eifelochse (talk) 16:12, 15 March 2019 (UTC)


 * Eifelochse .... Ssilvers is an editor ... just like you and I ..... the rest of your message I couldn't understand tho,
 * You're being reverted because you're making large edits to an article that has been disputed by various editors countless times.... so like everyone else here you need to go to the talkpage,
 * If discussions aren't your thing then yeah editing here isn't for you. – Davey 2010 Talk 16:37, 15 March 2019 (UTC)

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MTV (UK and Ireland)
The reason why I removed the programming list is because it is completely unsourced and fails WP:NOTTVGUIDE. Foxnpichu (talk) 20:32, 18 March 2019 (UTC)


 * Generally speaking UK programme lists are generally fine (I think) but anyway I'll source it Wednesday, Cheers. – Davey 2010 Talk 22:28, 18 March 2019 (UTC)


 * No problem. Foxnpichu (talk) 07:34, 19 March 2019 (UTC)

mdy in XML comments
With this edit you're "responsible" that I interpreted 04/01/2011 correctly as April 1st, i.e., not January 4th, I remove the comment now. –84.46.52.75 (talk) 09:11, 24 March 2019 (UTC)
 * Hi User talk:84.46.52.75, Many thanks for spotting that, Generally speaking 99% of the time there is never any errors and the 1% that are I usually spot but it would seem on this occasion that error went unnoticed so thanks again for spotting and fixing this, Cheers, – Davey 2010 Talk 10:25, 24 March 2019 (UTC)

Halsey page
Hi. I am sorry about removing those said edits from the page; I edited a lot of the info and I was worried my computer would die, so I submitted without finishing. Would it be alright if I reverted the page back to my latest edit and added the info back in where it's supposed to be? What I mean is that I removed information about her pregnancy and relationships, and had planned to put them into the personal life section where it should probably be placed. So, can I revert the page back to my latest edit and finish putting in all the info I removed? Like I said I had just planned to put the info into where it is more appropriately placed. Thanks! — Preceding unsigned comment added by Nikki J 99 (talk • contribs) 21:15, 24 March 2019 (UTC)


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 * Unfortunately many vandals remove large chunks of an article with the edit summary "Added a lot of info" so it's easy for everyone to simply assume you're a vandal so doing small edits with descriptive summaries should stop people reverting you :),
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Confirm Involvement in WikiProject Disney
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WP:AFD
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Please comment on Talk:Rocket Lab
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Tech News: 2019-16
<section begin="technews-2019-W16"/> Latest tech news from the Wikimedia technical community. Please tell other users about these changes. Not all changes will affect you. Translations are available.

Recent changes
 * All wikis now have the TemplateWizard for the wikitext editor.

Changes later this week
 * Octicons-sync.svg The new version of MediaWiki will be on test wikis and MediaWiki.org from 16 April. It will be on non-Wikipedia wikis and some Wikipedias from 17 April. It will be on all wikis from 18 April (calendar).

Meetings
 * Octicons-sync.svg Octicons-tools.svg You can join the technical advice meeting on IRC. During the meeting, volunteer developers can ask for advice. The meeting will be on 17 April at 15:00 (UTC). See how to join.

Future changes
 * Wikidata will get a new constraint status called . This will change how the   constraint checking API works.
 * You can test the  property for structured data on Commons.

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Tech News: 2019-17
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Recent changes
 * The advanced search function URL now shows which namespaces you search in. The namespace field is collapsed by default on the search page. You can also add new fields to the search interface through a hook.
 * The wikis now look slightly different in the mobile web version.

Changes later this week
 * There is no new MediaWiki version this week.

Meetings
 * Octicons-sync.svg Octicons-tools.svg You can join the technical advice meeting on IRC. During the meeting, volunteer developers can ask for advice. The meeting will be on 23 April at 15:00 (UTC). See how to join.

Future changes
 * Wikipedia articles will have the  meta property. It adds structured data. This makes it easier for search engines to find Wikipedia articles. It also makes it easier to reuse content. There will an A/B test.

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WP:AFD
<div style="position: fixed; left:0; bottom:0; display:block; height:px;"> <div style=" float:left">
 * Like, it's April Fools' Day today, you know? North America1000 09:08, 1 April 2019 (UTC)


 * Hi User:Northamerica1000, Hope all is well mate, Apologies for the extremely long delay!, I've had no internet for the past month due to issues with the Provider, Right now I feel like a newbie lol, It all just feels so bizarre! :), Anyway thanks for the laugh! :), – Davey 2010 Talk 15:05, 24 April 2019 (UTC)

Back
After what seems longer than a month I'm finally back and more importantly I actually have internet!, Unless our new modem packs up then I don't plan on mysteriously vanishing again! :),

I think I've replied to everyone atleast on my talkpage and emails but if I've missed anyone let me know,

Very weird to be back to be honest.... Anyway hope everyone's been okay!, Cheers, – Davey 2010 Talk 15:04, 24 April 2019 (UTC)

Tech News: 2019-18
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Recent changes
 * The Wikipedia app for Android now invites users to add Wikidata descriptions to Wikidata objects that have Wikipedia articles but no Wikidata descriptions. It will only invite users who have added a number of Wikidata descriptions in the app without being reverted. This is to avoid spam and bad edits.

Problems
 * Tech News was late last week because of a MassMessage bug. Other newsletters had the same problem.

Changes later this week
 * You will see when you last refreshed the recent changes page. This is so you can see how recent the changes are.
 * When you write a comment in Structured Discussions but have not posted it yet your web browser will save it in  instead of  . This means you do not lose them even if you close your web browser. Structured Discussions used to be called Flow.
 * You will be able to turn off milestone notifications. Milestone notifications congratulate you when you have made certain numbers of edits.
 * Octicons-sync.svg The new version of MediaWiki will be on test wikis and MediaWiki.org from 30 April. It will be on non-Wikipedia wikis and some Wikipedias from 1 May. It will be on all wikis from 2 May (calendar).

Meetings
 * Octicons-sync.svg Octicons-tools.svg You can join the technical advice meeting on IRC. During the meeting, volunteer developers can ask for advice. The meeting will be on 1 May at 15:00 (UTC). See how to join.

Future changes
 * Octicons-tools.svg The Wikidata  table will be dropped. This will affect some Wikidata tools. They need to be updated. The table has become too big which is causing problems. This will happen on 29 May. You can read more. You can ask for help if you need it.
 * Octicons-tools.svg Wikimedia wikis will soon use a token when you log out. This changes how the API works. Some tools might need to be updated.

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The Signpost: 30 April 2019
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Bianca Ryan
I just remembered. I'm an idiot. 😜 ATS (talk) 18:56, 1 May 2019 (UTC)


 * Hi ATS, If it makes you feel any better I had no idea  even existed, Please don't feel like you need to compromise as you don't :),
 * Some of the changes made with AutoEd verge on being pointless and so like here If I'm reverted then that's no problem - I don't use timeless skin so had no idea this broke things so sorry about that,
 * Thanks, – Davey 2010 Talk 19:34, 1 May 2019 (UTC)

Rama Arbitration Case
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Previous listing as a party
My apologies for the above section stating that you are a party. You are not, I made a mistake with the template. -- Amanda  (aka DQ) 19:51, 2 May 2019 (UTC)


 * Haha no worries User:DeltaQuad! :), Happy editing. – Davey 2010 Talk 20:57, 2 May 2019 (UTC)

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Tech News: 2019-19
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Problems
 * Special:Watchlist can show the wrong information. It does not always show which edits are read and which are unread. The developers are working on solving the problem.

Changes later this week
 * Octicons-sync.svg The new version of MediaWiki will be on test wikis and MediaWiki.org from 7 May. It will be on non-Wikipedia wikis and some Wikipedias from 8 May. It will be on all wikis from 9 May (calendar).

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Anote Tong
Hi! Nice to meet you!, I just wanted to ask you if you can, as member of Kiribati and Micronesia WikiProjects,, categorize the importance of Mr. Tong's article for the Project. Hope to be clear. Have a nice day! -- --LLcentury (talk) 17:56, 12 May 2019 (UTC)
 * Hi LLcentury, Nice to meet you too! :), If you mean "WikiProject Micronesia / Kiribati	(Rated Start-class)" on the talkpage then I don't deal with this sort of thing, You may be better off going to the WP:Helpdesk or WP:Teahouse and hopefully finding someone who does edit in this area,
 * Also I don't appear to be a member of any of the Wikiprojects on the talkpage so you may have got me muddled with someone else :),
 * Anyway as I said pop to one of the venues above and hopefully someone will will able to help you :),
 * Thanks and Happy editing, – Davey 2010 Talk 18:27, 12 May 2019 (UTC)

Tech News: 2019-20
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Changes later this week
 * Octicons-sync.svg The new version of MediaWiki will be on test wikis and MediaWiki.org from 14 May. It will be on non-Wikipedia wikis and some Wikipedias from 15 May. It will be on all wikis from 16 May (calendar).

Meetings
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Tech News: 2019-21
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Recent changes
 * The report for phase 1 of the talk pages consultation 2019 has been published. Communities are invited to start phase 2 of the consultation on their wikis.

Problems
 * File descriptions for files from Commons were not shown properly on other Wikimedia wikis for a few days. For example the image descriptions and license information were missing. This has now been fixed.
 * Some diffs show an error message when you try to see them. The developers are working on fixing it. It could be because of some edit comments.

Changes later this week
 * Octicons-sync.svg The new version of MediaWiki will be on test wikis and MediaWiki.org from . It will be on non-Wikipedia wikis and some Wikipedias from . It will be on all wikis from (calendar).

Meetings
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Future changes
 * The content translation tool on Wikipedia can use machine translations. There is a system to stop translations where the editors do not fix machine translation mistakes. This warns or stops them if they seem to just copy what the machine translation gives them. If this system is too strict or not strict enough you can tell the language team.
 * Octicons-tools.svg The Wikidata  API endpoint will remove all aliases if the request includes an empty alias. This is how it supposed to work. It has not been working this way because of a bug. This will start on 12 June.

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Tech News: 2019-22
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Changes later this week
 * Octicons-tools.svg Big changes to the replica database will happen on 3 June. Some tools on Cloud Services will stop working if the maintainers do not update them to use the new schema. This probably affects tools that query for revisions or log entries made by a user.
 * Octicons-sync.svg The new version of MediaWiki will be on test wikis and MediaWiki.org from 28 May. It will be on non-Wikipedia wikis and some Wikipedias from 29 May. It will be on all wikis from 30 May (calendar).

Meetings
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The Signpost: 31 May 2019
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Tech News: 2019-23
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Recent changes
 * You can now write all special letters in all African Wikipedia languages. This works in the desktop version.
 * There is now a field called  on Commons. This is a way to show what is in a picture with the help of Wikidata. It is still in development.
 * Some tools on Toolforge may break on or after 3 June because of database changes. Maintainers should update their tools to use the new schema.

Problems
 * You will be able to read but not to edit Wikimedia Commons for 30 minutes on 19 June at 05:00 (UTC). This is to fix a hardware problem.

Changes later this week
 * Some wikis have one tab for the visual editor and one tab for a wikitext editor. Others wikis just have one tab. If your wiki has two tabs, clicking a link to create a new page has always opened a wikitext editor. It will now open the editor you used the last time you edited.
 * Octicons-sync.svg The new version of MediaWiki will be on test wikis and MediaWiki.org from 4 May. It will be on non-Wikipedia wikis and some Wikipedias from 5 May. It will be on all wikis from 6 May (calendar).

Meetings
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Sneaky Pete
Davey2010, Respectfully ask for an explanation for undoing my change to the title of Sneaky Pete. When one puts both complete words "Sneaky Pete" into search, two options appear. With the first (which, with human nature, will most likely be selected) the article is cue stick forcing one to make a second selection to find the TV show. Note I searched for "PRIMARYTOPIC" with no success. Also, who is required for a consensus? Thanks, Denise B-K (talk) 02:11, 5 June 2019 (UTC) Denisebk


 * Hi Denise B-K, In short the Amazon programme is far more known than the cue stick, If you look at |Sneaky_pete the page views you will see the cue stick barely hits 20 views a day whereas the Amazon programmes smacks 1-2 thousand views a day ...,
 * IMHO the cue stick redirect should be moved to "sneaky pete (cue stick) as a way to disambiguate from the Amazon programme however you may want to ask at the talkpage first as I'm not all that clued up on redirects, Thanks, – Davey 2010 Talk 02:28, 5 June 2019 (UTC)

Sandbox
There is currently a discussion at Administrators' noticeboard/Incidents regarding an issue with which you may have been involved. This is not about your editing but rather an issue you are involved in. 2001:4898:80E8:3:EA0D:C14:20AB:DA9 (talk) 17:29, 6 June 2019 (UTC)
 * Bizarrely I had a feeling it was related to them!, Anyway many thanks 2001 for the heads up much appreciated, Happy editing. – Davey 2010 Talk 17:43, 6 June 2019 (UTC)

Discussion at Wikipedia_talk:Requests_for_adminship/Optional_RfA_candidate_poll
You are invited to join the discussion at Wikipedia_talk:Requests_for_adminship/Optional_RfA_candidate_poll. Kudpung กุดผึ้ง (talk) 00:35, 7 June 2019 (UTC)
 * Hi Kudpung กุดผึ้ง, Many thanks for the heads up, I'm rather surprised closing it down was even suggested given how much of a useful tool/place it is but ah well, Thanks again, – Davey 2010 Talk 01:50, 7 June 2019 (UTC)

Tech News: 2019-24
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Recent changes
 * When you create a PDF from a page on the wiki this is now done by Proton. Before this we used Electron. It should look the same but work better. Both use Chromium. This is a different system from when you collect several articles into a book and make a PDF from them.
 * The Flagged Revisions extension now uses the standard OOUI icons. There will be additional minor fixes for positioning in the next deployment.
 * Octicons-tools.svg Bots and other scripts that do not set an identifiable User-Agent may find their requests strictly rate-limited until they identify themselves properly.

Problems
 * Please check if the Flagged Revisions configuration on your wiki is as you expect (or as it was a few weeks ago). If not, please report it.

Changes later this week
 * There is no new MediaWiki version this week.

Meetings
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WikiProject Big Brother Newsletter – June 2019
Sent by DannyS712 (talk) using MediaWiki message delivery (talk) at 08:53, 13 June 2019 (UTC)

A Barnstar For You!

 * Hi User:&, Thanks so much :), Hope you're well :), – Davey 2010 Talk 12:45, 19 June 2019 (UTC)

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Tech News: 2019-25
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Problems
 * You will be able to read but not to edit Wikimedia Commons for 30 minutes on 19 June at 05:00 (UTC). This is to fix a hardware problem.

Changes later this week
 * MIDI files can soon be played without the Score extension. You can then add them with . Later   and   will stop working. Instead you will need to add the MIDI file below the music score.
 * A new video player will soon replace the old one. You will be able to enable it as a beta feature in your preferences. It will later be enabled for everyone if there are no big problems.
 * Octicons-sync.svg The new version of MediaWiki will be on test wikis and MediaWiki.org from 18 June. It will be on non-Wikipedia wikis and some Wikipedias from 19 June. It will be on all wikis from 20 June (calendar).

Meetings
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Future changes
 * Octicons-tools.svg Some gadgets and user scripts still use the old  and   values. These values are always true. They will soon be removed. This might break the gadgets and scripts. You should fix your gadgets to not use these values.

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Please comment on Wikipedia talk:Today's featured article
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Please comment on Talk:Australia
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Tech News: 2019-26
<section begin="technews-2019-W26"/> Latest tech news from the Wikimedia technical community. Please tell other users about these changes. Not all changes will affect you. Translations are available.

Problems
 * The new version of MediaWiki for last week was not fully released due to issues. It was removed from most wikis on Tuesday and from test wikis on Thursday.
 * Most wikis were slow and then briefly read-only last week due to one of the database servers having a problem. It is now replaced.

Changes later this week
 * Octicons-sync.svg The new version of MediaWiki will be on test wikis and MediaWiki.org from 25 June. It will be on non-Wikipedia wikis and some Wikipedias from 26 June. It will be on all wikis from 27 June (calendar).

Meetings
 * You can watch or join the next Wikimedia Language showcase. It will be about the usage of Machine Translation in Wikimedia projects. The showcase will be on 26 June at 13:00 (UTC). A recording will be kept for later viewing
 * Octicons-sync.svg Octicons-tools.svg You can join the technical advice meeting on IRC. During the meeting, volunteer developers can ask for advice. The meeting will be on 26 June at 15:00 (UTC). See how to join.

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A barnstar for you!

 * Hi Ad Orientem, Thanks for the barnstar that's very kind of you, I absolutely agree I really do hope they'll say or atleast do something that will resolve this, It's gone on for far too long and we've lost far too many admins/'crats over it,
 * Thanks, Take care, – Davey 2010 Talk 10:36, 30 June 2019 (UTC)

A barnstar for you!

 * Hi User:Steel1943, Hope you're doing well, Thanks for the barnstar that's very kind of you, No worries :), I don't really agree with the NFCC stuff but it has to be upheld and I genuinely thank you for doing it :), Thanks, – Davey 2010 Talk 15:33, 30 June 2019 (UTC)

The June 2019 Signpost is out!
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Precious anniversary
Coming in a difficult time, hoping to see you again but you set a tough condition. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 07:37, 1 July 2019 (UTC)


 * Hi Gerda Arendt, Thanks so much, I know I'm beginning to wonder if pigs might fly first! :), Apparently the WMF is issuing a statement today at some point so would be very interesting as to what they say, Anyway thanks for the Precious Anniversary, Thanks, – Davey 2010 Talk 10:10, 1 July 2019 (UTC)


 * Look, this award comes from QAI, and one of it's most prominent (and possibly still hated) members is Pigsonthewing, - we are impossible ;) - Kafka's day to come on 3 July, the article written mainly by another prominent (and blocked) member. Kafka described it all perfectly in Das Schloss, summarised as "about alienation, unresponsive bureaucracy, the frustration of trying to conduct business with non-transparent, seemingly arbitrary controlling systems, and the futile pursuit of an unobtainable goal". My goal, however, is to bring Vespro della Beata Vergine to GA quality, soon, so I won't join the strike although I have a lot of sympathy with all who pursue that way, and sadly miss those who retired (look for the fly on my talk. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 10:23, 1 July 2019 (UTC)
 * Sounds like we're living the Das Schloss in some ways lol, Well I applaud you for continuing on so thank you :), Happy editing. – Davey 2010 Talk 11:31, 1 July 2019 (UTC)
 * Thank you, feel understood. Kafkaesque was about all I could say to arbitration (arbitrary) restrictions, back in 2013. -You get used to even that. I once said that nothing surprises me here anymore, but the ban by T&S came as a non-transparent arbitrary surprise. I am no special friend of Fram, but of fairness. -Gerda Arendt (talk) 21:59, 2 July 2019 (UTC)
 * Haha I think it was a surprise to everyone :), I agree I'm not his biggest fan but I certainly don't agree with what's happened, I want to say "hopefully common sense will prevail" but truth be told I don't think it will .... guess we'll have to wait and see lol. – Davey 2010 Talk 22:27, 2 July 2019 (UTC)
 * Who will write the best short story Kafka style about the incident and its consequences, unresponsive bureaucracy and non-transparent, seemingly arbitrary controlling systems, in short, about frustration? Better: end the frustration? - From a note to our founder, whose page I have avoided for 5 years. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 07:30, 3 July 2019 (UTC)
 * Hi Gerda, I suppose Fram could :), Well I suppose that would be more of a diary, Never really liked Jimbo ...until today, Weirdly at one point in my life I was posting a few congratulations or Merry Xmas messages there!, – Davey 2010 Talk 17:13, 3 July 2019 (UTC)

Come back Davey, you're a great editor, and now the admin who blocked you for closing AfDs is gone, you can start doing it again. <b style="color:#7F007F">Ritchie333</b> <sup style="color:#7F007F">(talk) <sup style="color:#7F007F">(cont)  15:53, 5 July 2019 (UTC)
 * Hi Ritchie, I'm here I'm here lol, Meh not worth it I'd only be giving someone else the pleasure of taking me to ANI,
 * That being said I wouldn't enjoy it like I used to as I'd always worry of being dragged back to ANI for something everyone else still does anyway,
 * I'm sure AFD will survive without me . – Davey 2010 Talk 16:23, 5 July 2019 (UTC)

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Tech News: 2019-27
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Recent changes
 * The development of Wikidata Bridge has started. The goal is to allow Wikidata edits from Wikipedia.

Problems
 * Sometimes pages load slowly for users routed to the Amsterdam data center. Investigation is in progress.
 * Wikidata query service was overloaded between 11:50 UTC until 13:15 UTC on June 24. It has been fixed.

Changes later this week
 * You will be able to read but not to edit all wikis for a short amount of time, on 3 July at 06:00 (UTC). This is to move a database.
 * There is no deployment of a new version of MediaWiki on the wikis this week (calendar).

Meetings
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Nice work
Thanks for this D. I had a pithy reply ready to go but you beat me to it. I am glad you are still around and I hope you enjoy the rest of your weekend. MarnetteD&#124;Talk 16:48, 6 July 2019 (UTC)
 * Hi MarnetteD, Haha arr sorry :), Thanks and I hope you enjoy the rest of weekend too :), Take care, – Davey 2010 Talk 17:01, 6 July 2019 (UTC)


 * Should I read the close as endorsing the AN3 decision or as redirecting me to AN? w umbolo   ^^^  16:55, 6 July 2019 (UTC)


 * Take it as "I don't want to be blocked so I'll pack this shit in pronto". – Davey 2010 Talk 17:01, 6 July 2019 (UTC)

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Tech News: 2019-28
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Recent changes
 * For event organizers, if you request a temporary lift of the IP cap for mass account creation, this will now also raise the edit rate limit for those new accounts at the event, which will prevent another bottleneck.
 * Administrators at all Wiktionary, Wikivoyage, and Wikisource wikis are now able to use the new partial blocks feature.

Changes later this week
 * Octicons-sync.svg The new version of MediaWiki will be on test wikis and MediaWiki.org from 9 July. It will be on non-Wikipedia wikis and some Wikipedias from 10 July. It will be on all wikis from 11 July (calendar).
 * The design of MediaWiki's software windows will change for desktop users. Layout will be simpler, buttons will be bolder and clearer, and close buttons will be just icons. This is like the mobile design. This will affect ContentTranslation, VisualEditor, TemplateWizard, and other tools.

Meetings
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Future changes
 * Wikidata will be in read-only mode on 30 July from 05:00 to 05:30 UTC because of a server switch.
 * Octicons-tools.svg There will be a change in the name format of new Wikidata RDF dumps starting on 15 July.

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Metrobus rv
Hi Dave, out of interest did you see what I used as an edit summary? I think its valid. No sourcing for most of it and using what is essentially a blog post for the fleet listing. This is causing trouble elsewhere too for your info. Thanks <b style="color: White;">Night</b><b style="color: White">fury</b> 07:33, 10 July 2019 (UTC)
 * Hi User:Nightfury, My sincere apologies I hadn't realised you edited after Charles otherwise I would have reverted but added your edits back, From my perspective I simply saw Charles remove a few images and a whole chunk of random content without bothering to even source it, Many thanks for your recent edits to the article :), Thanks, – Davey 2010 Talk 21:04, 10 July 2019 (UTC)

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Tech News: 2019-29
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Recent changes
 * The mobile web will get more advanced editing tools. Seven more Wikipedias can use them now. This works for Arabic, Indonesian, Italian, Persian, Japanese, Spanish and Thai Wikipedia. You can try the tools on the mobile web and give feedback.

Changes later this week
 * Octicons-tools.svg The abuse filter system user will soon do maintenance edits on broken abuse filters. This user is called   and has administrator rights. This is meant to fix technical problems. It will not do any other changes. You can read more.
 * Octicons-sync.svg The new version of MediaWiki will be on test wikis and MediaWiki.org from 16 July. It will be on non-Wikipedia wikis and some Wikipedias from 17 July. It will be on all wikis from 18 July (calendar).

Meetings
 * Octicons-sync.svg Octicons-tools.svg You can join the technical advice meeting on IRC. During the meeting, volunteer developers can ask for advice. The meeting will be on 17 July at 15:00 (UTC). See how to join.

Future changes
 * The Wikipedia app for Android will invite users to add image captions to images on Commons. It will only invite users who have added a number of edits in the app without being reverted. This is to avoid spam and bad edits. You can read more and leave feedback.

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Editing News #1—July 2019
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Did you know?

Did you know that you can use the visual editor on a mobile device?

Every article has a pencil icon at the top. Tap on the pencil icon to start editing.

 Edit Cards 



This is what the new Edit Cards for editing links in the mobile visual editor look like. You can try the prototype here: 📲 Try Edit Cards.

Welcome back to the Editing newsletter.

Since the last newsletter, the team has released two new features for the mobile visual editor and has started developing three more. All of this work is part of the team's goal to make editing on mobile web simpler.

Before talking about the team's recent releases, we have a question for you:

Are you willing to try a new way to add and change links?

If you are interested, we would value your input! You can try this new link tool in the mobile visual editor on a separate wiki.

Follow these instructions and share your experience:

📲 Try Edit Cards.

Recent releases
The mobile visual editor is a simpler editing tool, for smartphones and tablets using the mobile site. The Editing team has recently launched two new features to improve the mobile visual editor:


 * 1) Section editing
 * 2) * The purpose is to help contributors focus on their edits.
 * 3) * The team studied this with an A/B test. This test showed that contributors who could use section editing were 1% more likely to publish the edits they started than people with only full-page editing.
 * 4) Loading overlay
 * 5) * The purpose is to smooth the transition between reading and editing.

Section editing and the new loading overlay are now available to everyone using the mobile visual editor.

New and active projects
This is a list of our most active projects. Watch these pages to learn about project updates and to share your input on new designs, prototypes and research findings.


 * Edit cards: This is a clearer way to add and edit links, citations, images, templates, etc. in articles. You can try this feature now.  Go here to see how: 📲Try Edit Cards.
 * Mobile toolbar refresh: This project will learn if contributors are more successful when the editing tools are easier to recognize.
 * Mobile visual editor availability: This A/B test asks: Are newer contributors more successful if they use the mobile visual editor?  We are collaborating with 20 Wikipedias to answer this question.
 * Usability improvements: This project will make the mobile visual editor easier to use.  The goal is to let contributors stay focused on editing and to feel more confident in the editing tools.

Looking ahead

 * Wikimania: Several members of the Editing Team will be attending Wikimania in August 2019.  They will lead a session about mobile editing in the Community Growth space.  Talk to them about how editing can be improved.
 * Talk Pages: In the coming months, the Editing Team will begin improving talk pages and communication on the wikis.

Learning more
The VisualEditor on mobile is a good place to learn more about the projects we are working on. The team wants to talk with you about anything related to editing. If you have something to say or ask, please leave a message at Talk:VisualEditor on mobile.

PPelberg (WMF) (talk) and Whatamidoing (WMF) (talk) 21:25, 15 July 2019 (UTC)

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Tech News: 2019-30
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Recent changes
 * Communities interested by easing newcomers' first steps can now benefit from the Growth team experiments on their wikis. Check the conditions and the request process.
 * The Coolest Tool Award 2019 is looking for nominations. You can recommend tools by July 29. The awarded tools will be presented at Wikimania.

Problems
 * The release of the last version of MediaWiki (1.34.0-wmf.14) has been blocked for groups 1 and 2.

Changes later this week
 * Phabricator database will be moved to a different server. Writes will be blocked on Thursday 25 July, between 05:30 and 06:00 AM UTC. Reads will remain unaffected.
 * Octicons-sync.svg The new version of MediaWiki will be on test wikis and MediaWiki.org from 23 July. It will be on non-Wikipedia wikis and some Wikipedias from 24 July. It will be on all wikis from 25 July (calendar).

Meetings
 * Octicons-sync.svg Octicons-tools.svg You can join the technical advice meeting on IRC. During the meeting, volunteer developers can ask for advice. The meeting will be on 24 July at 15:00 (UTC). See how to join.

Future changes
 * Some items in the visual editor will change later this week. This will make it easier to edit links, citations, and templates on both desktop and mobile.
 * With advanced search turned on you will be able to choose the sorting order of the search results when you do a search.
 * Users who edit from IP addresses whitelisted on a request for temporary lift of the IP cap for mass account creation will bypass CAPTCHAs. This will happen in August. If you think this should not happen for some reason, please let us know.
 * Octicons-tools.svg The variable  will be removed from AbuseFilter. A list of filters needing a fix is provided.

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Tech News: 2019-31
<section begin="technews-2019-W31"/> Latest tech news from the Wikimedia technical community. Please tell other users about these changes. Not all changes will affect you. Translations are available.

Problems
 * Wikidata will be in read-only mode on 30 July from 05:00 to 05:30 UTC because of a server switch.

Changes later this week
 * Octicons-sync.svg The new version of MediaWiki will be on test wikis and MediaWiki.org from 30 July. It will be on non-Wikipedia wikis and some Wikipedias from 31 July. It will be on all wikis from 1 August (calendar).

Meetings
 * Octicons-sync.svg Octicons-tools.svg You can join the technical advice meeting on IRC. During the meeting, volunteer developers can ask for advice. The meeting will be on 31 July at 15:00 (UTC). See how to join.

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The Signpost: 31 July 2019
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Mobile
No worries. Yes, mobile sucks. You accidentally click revert, and despite hitting cancel, it still goes through. For example, see User talk:Amaury/2019, where I reverted an admin while on mobile. Amaury • 15:02, 3 August 2019 (UTC)


 * Hi Amaury, Oh wow!, When I tried to revert the vandal I have no undo button (or any twinkle buttons) .... my only way of reverting was to click edit on the clean version but even that was disastrous as I couldn't then just hit save ... I had to make another edit hence why I made one to the infobox .... It's rather surprising how awfully bad the mobile version is,
 * I ended up clicking on the desktop version and it still went stupidly wrong,
 * Least I know now never to bother editing wiki again atleast not a mobile device anyway! :),
 * Many thanks for being patient there and also apologies for the "rvv" obviously wasn't intended to or for you,
 * On a happier note it's nice to see you unblocked! :)
 * Happy editing :), – Davey 2010 Talk 15:11, 3 August 2019 (UTC)

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