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Clemente rewrite
We appreciate that good faith editing in the article, but you have to follow our guidelines in avoiding original research as some of the content you added is questionable at best. But there's some great content as well that all it needs is a copyedit, it would be better to sort this out in the article talk page to clean it out. I almost reverted but the Clemente article had to be rewritten anyways even before you started editing it. I would try to help with the content considering that I have all the books, and would lead you to the proper guidelines if you wish. Thanks Secret account 03:43, 14 July 2012 (UTC)

Nomination of Sandra Seacat for deletion
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Sandra Seacat article overhaul
Hi. I appreciate your good-faith changes and your intent in following behind me and rewriting what I've written. This is an encyclopedic article and there are guidelines to follow in adding content. I've been cleaning it up and changing it from a puff piece to an article. Adding, for example, fluffy language about Seacat's daughter doesn't meet the guidelines of Wiki. If you could bear with me, and with anyone else improving on the article, that would be much appreciated. If the editorializing and puffery in the article stay in, the article will surely be deleted at the end of the AfD process and you'll be left with no article about her at all. I believe she's notable and meets the guidelines, but the article will not pass if you keep adding puff to it. If you want to discuss something you'd like to add to see if it meets Wiki guidelines, the place to do that is in the article's talk page. Thank you. AuthorAuthor (talk) 16:45, 22 August 2012 (UTC)
 * Edit wars are not allowed. You're following everything I'm editing and changing it. I am improving the article. Please use the article's talk page if you have a question or don't agree with the edit. AuthorAuthor (talk) 23:45, 22 August 2012 (UTC)
 * To respond, in part: Every single thing a person does is not mentioned in articles, just as every person Seacat worked with doesn't need to be in the article either. It's not a catch-all. It's an encyclopedic entry. A projection of what she may be doing in the future doesn't fit here -- only what she's done in the past and what she's doing now. I'll read the mentions in articles and rework the article to match. Family members can be included, which is why Greta is mentioned; I'll correct it to coaching/training. Also, I'm not sure what guidelines you're looking at, but I haven't seen quotes included in references before, which is why they're being removed; they're unnecessary. Just the citation itself suffices. Thank you. AuthorAuthor (talk) 02:47, 23 August 2012 (UTC)
 * You just added POV content as well as a duplicate link from the New York Times that is already sourced in the article, which is not according to Wiki guidelines for sourcing. You also added a personal website as a source, which is not Wiki style and is an unreliable source. I am going to fold in a short mention of the dream method, copyedit out the point-of-view language you used, and then I am going to let the article be. There is nothing more to add at this point in the AfD process. I hope you follow suit. AuthorAuthor (talk) 15:21, 4 September 2012 (UTC)

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Sandra Seacat and AfD process
I have, again, fixed the article, keeping in the dream method but editing it down to remove flowery language, plus I put the links in Wiki style. There is nothing more that is needed for this article. Anything new looks like you are padding it with sources (you added three or four unnecessary links from personal websites; I removed those because they are not according to Wiki guidelines). Thank you for your patience as the improved article sits and we allow it to go through the AfD process. AuthorAuthor (talk) 16:08, 4 September 2012 (UTC)

Quotes within refs re: Marlo Thomas, etc.
I've read the advice/instructions other editors have given you, one of which was that quotes do not belong inside refs, as well as fluffy language. Yet you just edited a handful of articles, added POV language and inserted lengthy, unnecessary quotes within refs. There are Wikipedia guidelines that others have suggested you read before you edit more pages. I concur. AuthorAuthor (talk) 22:19, 7 September 2012 (UTC)

Style of writing as found in Roberto Clemente
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 * WP:Citing sources for guides and rules on how to properly format references, including what information to list. For example, for "location" the city (and perhaps state/province) should be listed, not the country where the publisher is based or where the book was printed. Also, be sure to correctly spell authors and publishing information. Even though it may not seem like a big thing, if the article was to ever get back to being of GA quality, misspellings in the references might be something a reviewer would decide would prevent an article from reaching GA. Zepppep (talk) 11:16, 12 September 2012 (UTC)

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Apology
I made edits in the Clemente article to improve it; I did not look to see what had been done earlier. So, I apologize if you thought I was following you. I know that your edits have been made in good faith. I'm sorry for any misunderstanding. AuthorAuthor (talk) 04:28, 13 September 2012 (UTC)

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The Don Heckman-Ed Summerlin Improvisational Jazz Workshop
You have recently made some very welcome contributions to Wikipedia and I thank you. Upon reviewing some of these articles I've made a few additions and corrections. Unfortunately, I don't have the free time to devote to all the tweaking that I could do to numerous articles. In reference to the article that you created on the "Improvisational Jazz Workshop" you need to know that the "Don Heckman-Ed Summerlin Improvisational Jazz Workshop" was the name of the group co-led by Heckman and Summerlin as well as the title of Ictus Records 101. In no sense can Ictus Records 101 be considered an Ed Summerlin album as it is clearly a collaboration between Heckman and Summerlin. I have the record and accompanying text insert in my hand and the notes signed D. H. make it clear that "Improvisational Jazz Workshop" is the name of the group. It would be great if you could revise this article to reflect this important information. This rare and important album deserves an accurate description. Maybe a separate article on the group is needed.JaneOlds (talk) 18:58, 14 May 2013 (UTC)

Ictus Records 101
David - Yes, I have some pretty decent digital transfers of Ictus 101 and will gladly share them with you if you'll tell me how.JaneOlds (talk) 20:09, 15 May 2013 (UTC)

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 * I suggest that, unless you are resigned to the category being deleted (in which case your "paring down" is pointless), you participate in the discussion mentioned above to explain why you think it should not be.  General Ization Talk  04:00, 12 July 2018 (UTC)
 * Thanks for the heads up, and for the link re the defining characteristic threshold (and bad on me for not investigating more thoroughly before plunging ahead). In light of that standard, I'm not not sure how I feel about the viability of the category—nor of any acting-teacher variation (if only because that relationship is far too under-the-radar to ever be widely viewed as a defining characteristic), nor, for that matter, of the parent category itself. Long story short, tho I'm not sure what's worth saving (nor whether—as suggested in a number of related discussions—a thorough, fully sourced list, whether in or outside of the main article, might not be the best option), I do know that a good 35 or 40 of the original 50 have no business in a category meant to encompass only artists whose careers were significantly impacted by Seacat. So I will get back to that now (as well as making what is probably my first substantial contribution to the main article since 2012, regarding a recently surfaced Seacat disciple, arguably the most intriguing one of all. DavidESpeed (talk) 07:27, 12 July 2018 (UTC)

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Category:Semi-professional basketball players
This is not a category that exists. It could be created, but I would encourage you to start a discussion at Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Basketball before doing so as I could see many problems with this category if not tightly-defined. I would argue it is difficult to know who should go into the category and who shouldn't and further what leagues and teams count as "semi-professional" Rikster2 (talk) 14:54, 23 August 2020 (UTC)
 * Thanks for the heads up. My bad on two fronts. I guess it's been so long since I'd created a category that I forgot how to complete the process, i.e. add the parent category[ies]. But now that I reconsider, I can't really say this motley, ill-defined group merits category status; I clearly got carried away. Actually, it all stemmed from my excitement, while editing the Whammy Douglas wiki, in discovering that in addition to his baseball exploits, he'd had considerable success in semi-pro basketball. But then simply adding Basketball player to his categories would, if anything, be even more effective in alerting the potentially curious to that fact. Long story short, if you haven't done so already, I'll now revert the rest of those edits myself. Thanks again.DavidESpeed (talk) 16:01, 23 August 2020 (UTC)

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I apologize for taking so long to read your draft. I took the liberty of changing two red links for The Whistler into blue links pointing to The Whistler (radio series). Otherwise, I didn't see anything that I think needs to be changed. The article seems to be very thorough, and I can appreciate the time and effort that went into the research and writing. Good work! Eddie Blick (talk) 20:34, 7 February 2024 (UTC)


 * No problem, Eddie. Thanks so much for taking the time. Speaking of which, I also strongly recommend you check out her Skippy episode—i.e. the Gloria Grahame version of "Farewell to Birdie McKeever"—whenever you can spare about 23½ minutes.   Here's the link, minus the first few minutes of superfluous stuff (i.e. schmoozing, plugs, Skippy promos, etc.). Actually, the Skippy promo at the intermission is kind of cool, in that Van actually builds on the brief allusion Jane's script makes to the then-early stages of HUAC ("Do you think she's been planted here? As some sort of subversive element?") Anyway, allusions aside, the play itself is really strong. A really novel premise. Sweet, surprising. Ingenious and ingenuous. And..... and that's enough out of me.  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wGEp-RsMG-w&t=168s  Anyway, thanks again. DavidESpeed (talk) 01:17, 8 February 2024 (UTC)
 * I appreciate that suggestion, David. I look forward to listening to it. Eddie Blick (talk) 01:25, 8 February 2024 (UTC)

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Draft:David Young (radio producer/director)
I moved your article to draft. I tried fixing it, but the article has far too many links to family search websites, which are not permitted as sources. Thanks for your understanding. Magnolia677 (talk) 13:47, 20 May 2024 (UTC)


 * I have restored the article to mainspace. It seems to me to have more than adequate sources from publications (both general-circulation and trade).
 * These are my thoughts with regard to @Magnolia677's concern about use of family search websites:
 * I noticed that the link is lower-cased, and it points to a section about Find a Grave, rather than the more specific Family Search website (which you had used in some citations in an earlier version of the article).
 * I, too, am concerned when I see citations that mention just Ancestry.com, FamilySearch, Find a Grave, and similar sources because so much of the content on those sites is WP:USERGENERATED.
 * However, the FamilySearch entry at Reliable sources/Perennial sources says, in part, "FamilySearch also hosts primary source documents, such as birth certificates, which may be usable in limited situations, as well as a large collection of digitized books, which should be evaluated on their own for reliability. When using primary source documents from FamilySearch, follow WP:BLPPRIMARY and avoid interpreting them with original research."
 * Your original citations included items such as "California, World War II Draft Registration Cards, 1940-1945" and "California Death Index, 1940-1997" that are found within the FamilySearch site. I consider such sources to be valid for this article. WP:BLPPRIMARY would prohibit their use if the subject of the article were living, but that is not the case.
 * Eddie Blick (talk) 13:42, 22 May 2024 (UTC)

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Your recent post on my talk page mentioned that you looked for "any as-yet-undocumented but worthy bio subjects" related to Old Time Radio. A few minutes ago I remembered a list (unpublished) of OTR people that I found in OTR-related publications that did not have articles on Wikipedia. My last edit to the page was in February 2016, so it's likely that articles have been created about some of them in the last eight years.

I eventually began saving names and links related to them in browsers or in cloud sites rather than adding to that page, and I had forgotten about it. Anyway, I wanted to tell you about User:Teblick/Annotated list of old-time American radio people without their own pages.

You are welcome to do research about any of those names and create articles about any of them if you wish. Eddie Blick (talk) 20:59, 27 May 2024 (UTC)


 * Thanks, Eddie. I took a look at the A's and I hope to have an article up for Charme Allen by tonight or tomorrow. As for the rest of the alphabet, would you like me to remove any names I come across that have indeed since been added to Wiki? (Off the top of my head, Peggy Conklin and Morris Carnovsky are definitely in this category.)  DavidESpeed (talk) 23:04, 28 May 2024 (UTC)
 * @DavidESpeed, Yes, that would be fine if you don't mind removing those names. I don't know how much potential any of the names have with regard to finding enough material for articles.
 * Best wishes for success with Charme Allen (and possibly others)! Eddie Blick (talk) 23:41, 28 May 2024 (UTC)

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