User talk:DavidJMoss

Please, will someone edit my very first entry, Tobey C. Moss (Art Dealer) and tell me how to finish making it acceptable for publishing. I must be 90% there. Thanks. David Moss

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Theroadislong (talk) 21:38, 28 December 2020 (UTC)

Managing a conflict of interest
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Also, editing for the purpose of advertising, publicising, or promoting anyone or anything is not permitted. ''You appear to share a last name with the subject of this article. If you are connected to this person, it is a conflict of interest.'' Jooojay (talk) 12:01, 22 February 2021 (UTC)

Thank you Jooojay for your comments on the page Tobey C. Moss‎ and I hear your confusion over terms like docent. I do mean Museum Docent, someone who leads free tours throughout the museum commenting on pieces on the wall and soliciting reactions from the tour participants. I also hear your concern about conflict of interest. That is why I re-published the December 28th page in February to only use wording from established sources like the Getty Research Institute and the Los Angeles Times and the University of California Los Angeles(UCLA) Special Collections. Are you commenting on that version? I included many inline citations from those venerable sources. And, as the son of retired 92-year-old Tobey C. Moss, I would have much preferred waiting until The Getty Research Institute posted this page, but they don't do that, or not in a timely fashion. I wanted to see her contribution to the art world in print, especially women artists and Latino artists and Southern California artists, available to Wikipedia users, before she dies, not 10 years afterwards. As for International art dealer, I also cite her 47 contributions to the collection of the British Museum, as an example. Can you tell me how I can improve that latest version from February. DavidJMoss (talk) 18:42, 23 February 2021 (UTC) [[Special:Contributions/DavidJMoss|

Draft:Tobey C. Moss Gallery
I saw your post at the Teahouse. I looked at the article, and have renamed it to Draft:Tobey C. Moss Gallery, since the article is about the gallery, more or less. There is certainly not enough material to have an article on "Tobey C. Moss". Regarding the article: we rarely publish articles on galleries, since they are rarely notable. Galleries often deal with other people who are notable (the artists), but newspapers and magazines rarely write about the actual galleries. Items like the British Museum having bought 47 works from her are of no consequence at all; selling something does not make someone notable, by our criteria. If you can dig up a half dozen or so newspaper or magazine or book profiles of Tobey C. Moss, or the gallery, then there may be some hope. Otherwise, unfortunately I do not think there is much chance this will be published. Possibly (talk) 21:02, 23 February 2021 (UTC)

In response to talk, the main reason I thought this gallery itself was notable, not just the artists it represents, is because this gallery MAKES the market for many of these artists. They would not be notable artists if there weren't someone tirelessly working to promote them. And the duration of the gallery is 40 years! That is a long time for a gallery to exist and to make a mark on the art world, which this gallery did. Also, this gallery, unlike many others, spent a tremendous amount of time and energy teaching art history, teaching about the artists, the period, the various art movements, the media (lithography). It was not just four walls to show art. Lastly, this gallery's records were noteworthy enough that the Getty Research Institute, the Smithsonian Institution, and the UCLA Special Collections department all chose to preserve the gallery records. Not many galleries are given that much space and attention by those venerable institutions. Thank you for hearing me out. And, how do I impress these facts upon the editors who will choose whether to include this page or delete it. DavidJMoss (talk) 20:31, 4 March 2021 (UTC)

Your submission at Articles for creation: Tobey C. Moss Gallery (July 9)
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Your submission at Articles for creation: Tobey C. Moss Gallery (December 17)
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Theroadislong (talk) 19:31, 17 December 2021 (UTC)

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