User talk:DavidMDCXI

June 2020
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It seems you wish to stop me from removing bias this is clearly biases as it makes the claim it's a developed doctrine Christians do not believe that and so to assert that is biased I will proceed to remove the bias again. DavidMDCXI
 * Not all followers of Christianity share the same belief as you. Some do not believe in the Trinty. It is not an anti-Christian bias to state that. The source provided within the lines you tried to remove is a valid source presenting this view point. Wikipedia is not censored (see WP:NOTCENSORED, and so will express the various view points of the topic appropriately, and from a neutral point of view (which the article does meet). Regardless, the article has been protected from further vandalism. Aguy777 (talk) 10:21, 20 June 2020 (UTC)

DavidMDCXI (talk) 10:26, 20 June 2020 (UTC)"Not all followers of Christianity share the same belief as you." for one I never stated if I held to that belief and I never put my views on the page this doesn't merely state some think it's a developed doctrine it asserts that as fact I tried to put "some claim" which would make it neutral but you reverted it adding back the bias this is heavily biased.DavidMDCXI (talk) 10:26, 20 June 2020 (UTC)
 * I inferred that you followed the belief of the Trinity based on your wording and language. I am sorry if this assumption was incorrect or offended you. The article does state that it is a developed doctrine as fact, as that is what it is. Adding in 'some claim' simply wouldn't make sense here. A developed doctrine is a well-formed thought or belief (the word doctrine implies connection to either theology or philosophy, of course); the Trinity certainly meets this definition. Aguy777 (talk) 10:36, 20 June 2020 (UTC)

DavidMDCXI (talk) 10:45, 20 June 2020 (UTC)The word "develop" means "to (cause something to) grow or change into a more advanced, larger, or stronger form:" (https://dictionary.cambridge.org/dictionary/english/develop) developed is merely the past tense form clearly this asserts that the doctrine of the Trinity is not biblical and is a doctrine that was made up that is not a neutral position at all it's equivalent to me putting in the tawhid page that that is a developed doctrine not found within the Qur'an that would be biased.DavidMDCXI (talk) 10:45, 20 June 2020 (UTC)
 * Yes. Develop. As in 'to develop a thought into a well-rounded belief'. The wording is not biased. The wording used points out that the Trinity is a well-developed belief; a well-formed or thought-through belief. If anything, the wording here is positive. The word 'developed' is not being used to imply 'fabricated'. Aguy777 (talk) 10:51, 20 June 2020 (UTC)

DavidMDCXI (talk) 11:17, 20 June 2020 (UTC)That's not the only issue it asserts as fact that it's not explicit in the new testament that's pretty biased I don't think such a statement should even be in thereDavidMDCXI (talk) 11:17, 20 June 2020 (UTC)
 * That's because it's not explicitly stated in the New Testament (https://www.britannica.com/topic/Trinity-Christianity). The article states this, as well. Aguy777 (talk) 11:22, 20 June 2020 (UTC)

DavidMDCXI (talk) 11:26, 20 June 2020 (UTC)That's not a valid source there really is no reason to state such a thing as there is varying opinionDavidMDCXI (talk)
 * It is a valid source, and there are others stating the same thing in the article. Yes, there is such a thing as a different opinion, and that is exactly why the piece of the article you seem to have a problem with will remain. You have yet to provide a single valid argument for the removal of the text in question. It is not a WP:NPOV violation. It is not biased. And, until you prove otherwise, edits contrary to this will be reverted. Aguy777 (talk) 11:29, 20 June 2020 (UTC)

DavidMDCXI (talk) 11:42, 20 June 2020 (UTC)if there is a difference in opinion and it's a matter of interpretation then either both views should shared from a NEUTRAL standpoint or neither should be that's what being neutral is that is a perfect example of bias Britanica is not a valid source on what the text of the new testament means/says that's absurd.DavidMDCXI (talk) 11:42, 20 June 2020 (UTC)