User talk:David Fuchs/Archive 12

Melon heads
Hi, I was about to close the AfD on Melon heads when I noticed that you had removed the template with the AfD still open - are you closing it, pl? Please respond here. TerriersFan (talk) 00:51, 14 January 2008 (UTC)
 * Yeah, I think it's properly closed now? David Fuchs ( talk  ) 00:53, 14 January 2008 (UTC)
 * Thanks; that's helpful. TerriersFan (talk) 00:55, 14 January 2008 (UTC)

Articles for deletion/List of minor characters in Camp Lazlo (2nd nomination)
Are you allowed to merge and delete? I didn't think that was permissible under GFDL as you had to retain the history of the article (WP:MM. Also, I don't see how the vote results favor deletion over no consensus - three keep arguments, one delete/weak merge, and one delete. You can respond here. Torc2 (talk) 01:05, 14 January 2008 (UTC)
 * That's the function of what I did, but I did not actually delete the page- I just made it a redirect. Also, AfD is not a vote, so the number of keep or delete arguments is null unless compelling reasons for keeping/deletion are presented (there are, of course, some exceptions.) David Fuchs ( talk  ) 02:08, 14 January 2008 (UTC)
 * I'm not referring to overall votes. I'm saying the arguments for keep were substantial and strong enough to warrant a keep or at least no consensus. Torc2 (talk) 02:33, 14 January 2008 (UTC)
 * The only argument I was seeing was that it was really just a part of Camp Lazlo, and thus notable, correct? But that doesn't fly according to WP:FICT: "If the article becomes too long and a split would create a sub-article on a subject that is not individually notable, then the content should be trimmed." There was no way that the characters articles could be defended as being cut to the most concise length. David Fuchs ( talk  ) 02:40, 14 January 2008 (UTC)
 * I disagree about whether that section applies. I believe the more appropriate section is above that: "Sub-articles are sometimes born for technical reasons of length or style. Even these articles need real-world information to prove their notability, but must rely on the parent article to provide some of this background material (due to said technical reasons)". Torc2 (talk) 04:49, 14 January 2008 (UTC)

Cortana
I don't know if you realized it, but Cortana is now a featured article. You may want to add that to your "list of major contributions", or whatever you call it...J.delanoy (talk) 17:30, 14 January 2008 (UTC)

PlayStation 3 GA nomination
Thanks for pointing out all the problems with PlayStation 3 that needed to be addressed. I'm still kind of new here, and I guess I didn't read the GA criteria as closely as I should have; so my apologies for nominating it in the first place. Anyway, I've been working on the article all day (mostly adding citations; there are now 41 more refs than there were when I started :-D ), and I just rewrote the lead. I was wondering if you would give me your opinion on it. (I used the Wii's lead as a template) Thanks. Thingg (talk) 03:49, 15 January 2008 (UTC)

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Master Chief (Halo)
Hallo. Ich weiß nicht warum du meine Änderung zu diesem Artikel revertiert hast, jedoch habe ich das Metersystem entfernt weil das Umrechnen von Fuß und Zolleinheit auf das Metersystem kompliziert ist. D@rk talk 17:14, 15 January 2008 (UTC)
 * Well, thanks for your reply. D@rk talk 10:24, 16 January 2008 (UTC)

PS3 GA appraisal
I was just wondering if you would look over PlayStation 3 as it is now and tell me your opinion on whether it could make GA or maybe FA. I still have a few areas to cite better (second half of "Games", first half of "Operating System", and all of "PlayStation Network"), but barring those sections, I feel that the article as a whole is very well written and more than adequately cited. (Perhaps too much? In the past, sometimes I've gone overboard with citing...) Anyway, I just wanted the opinion of an established editor before I renominate it for GA (sort of an informal peer review). Thanks for the help. Thingg &#8853; &#8855; 23:44, 15 January 2008 (UTC)

PS3 GA
I believe that the PS3 is ready for its GA appraisal. I finished all the cites and reordered the sections as you suggested. Pretty much every statement is cited for a total of 179 citations. I realize that that doesn't necessarily mean that an article is GA qualified, but I think its kind of impressive. Anyway, I really appreciate all your input and advice. Regards. Thingg &#8853; &#8855; 03:50, 16 January 2008 (UTC)

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2007 Hugo Award for Best Dramatic Presentation, Short Form featured topic?
What do you think of this idea? The reason I'm asking you is because you heavily rewrote one of the articles of the nominees,. Currently, of the seven articles, two (200 and ) are at FAC, and one is at GAC. I can easily do at least two of the other three episode articles, so what do you think? Will (talk) 19:52, 19 January 2008 (UTC)
 * Well, six, if the award page doesn't need to be nominated. Will (talk) 20:13, 19 January 2008 (UTC)
 * Seeing as half of the nominees were Doctor Who episodes, I can easily rewrite them to GA standard. Fun table below:


 * If you want to help with the Doctor Who episodes, you might find Outpost Gallifrey and A Brief History of Time (Travel) helpful. I think what we need to do on the rest is get them to a standard and styling comparable to other episode GAs (and FAs). Will (talk) 20:27, 19 January 2008 (UTC)
 * We could have a shot at the Hugo Award article - GA or audited short article. Will (talk) 22:10, 19 January 2008 (UTC)
 * And I've just done "Downloaded (Battlestar Galactica)". Which leaves only the Hugo Award page (which I'm sandboxing) and School Reunion (which I'll get to in the morning) to go. Will (talk) 01:28, 20 January 2008 (UTC)
 * And that's Hugo done. Now to get some shut-eye :) Will (talk) 01:57, 20 January 2008 (UTC)
 * And School Reunion done. Now all we have to do is wait for the pages to be promoted (which I think, most likely, will happen) Will (talk) 15:52, 20 January 2008 (UTC)
 * I don't know. I've asked on the talk page. Will (talk) 20:17, 20 January 2008 (UTC)
 * And we have our first FA. Just caught it on watchlist. Snazzy. Will (talk) 00:57, 27 January 2008 (UTC)
 * Just don't try to get it on the main page ;) Will (talk) 02:08, 4 February 2008 (UTC)
 * Not long to go now... Will (talk) 20:08, 13 February 2008 (UTC)
 * School Reunion GA'd. Will (talk) 22:25, 13 February 2008 (UTC)
 * I asked here. It won't be too hard to prove the lead article is limited, the award has only lasted for five years. Will (talk) 22:35, 13 February 2008 (UTC)
 * Only one more to go... Will (talk) 21:34, 15 February 2008 (UTC)

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WikiProject Germany Invitation
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New Semester, New Appeal
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Congrats
I know this is a little late, but I just wanted to say congratulations on bringing Halo 3 to FA. Great job. Thingg &#8853; &#8855; 21:16, 26 January 2008 (UTC)

Brethren Court
I'm trying to, but saying that I tried to influence the vote when all I did was notify the most prominent editors is a lie. Therequiembellishere (talk) 23:30, 27 January 2008 (UTC)


 * *sighs* Never mind, then. Therequiembellishere (talk) 23:46, 27 January 2008 (UTC)

My Rfa
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WikiPrtoject Xbox 360
I have been having some problems with images on my WikiProject page because they don't meet copyright terms. I heard that you made the Halo logo which looks very good, so I was wondering if you could make me a Xbox (or Xbox 360, which ever is easier) logo for my page.--Blackwatch21 (talk) 01:24, 30 January 2008 (UTC)
 * All we are looking for is a logo for our WikiProject Xbox 360 page.--Blackwatch21 (talk) 20:46, 30 January 2008 (UTC)

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References and novels
I've noticed you've referenced as far down as the page numbers in the novels for the articles on Cortana and Master Chief. I've been using their basic structure (in addition to pinching the image style, looks very good in our nice new infoboxes) for improving the article on Jim Raynor - Blizzard hasn't talked as much about their characters, but there's enough there to get the job done - and my question is basically "Do I really have to do that?", is it well advised for me to trawl through the novels to find the exact page number for the point I'm referencing, as opposed to simply referencing to a generic book reference? -- Sabre (talk) 22:30, 31 January 2008 (UTC)


 * I noted you reverted the VG character template with the comment "rv for now". That implies that perhaps those changes could be restored in the future. What sort of circumstances would allow it to be put back? You've got to admit it looks a bit better with the two shaded areas, although I can understand removing them if similar item/character templates don't use them or have selectable colours - I thought Infobox Character's ones were locked at that colour, so adding them to VG character made sense then. (We could always try to get every other wikiproject to adopt that style for character and other similar infoboxes! :S) -- Sabre (talk) 13:35, 1 February 2008 (UTC)

Question
Would it be plagarising/non-free use to use the info in this pic to make an svg file for wikipedia (specifically, Sirius)? I wasn't sure, so I would appreciate your opinion on whether that would be ok or not. Thingg &#8853; &#8855; 00:18, 1 February 2008 (UTC)
 * Thanks for the advice. I contacted Harvard (they actually had a form in place to request permission to use their images), and if they say yes, I'll make the pic sometime next week. Regards. Thingg &#8853; &#8855;  02:57, 1 February 2008 (UTC)

WikiProject Good Articles Newsletter
The February 2008 issue of the WikiProject Good Articles Newsletter is ready! Dr. Cash (talk) 05:32, 1 February 2008 (UTC)

Halo (series) legacy/influentialness/etc.
Hey David. I've been working on the Age of Empires article a bit, replicating (to an extent) Halo (series). I'm a bit stuck on information about the game's legacy/how influential it's been - you can see my attempt at User:Dihydrogen Monoxide/Age. My question is how you went about finding relevant information for the Halo series - I get the feeling I'm looking in the wrong places. Cheers, dihydrogen monoxide (H20) 01:03, 2 February 2008 (UTC)
 * You rock. I hadn't thought about Halo Wars until now, but I'll be sure to mention that (although it's Halo, so it can't be good!) And yeah, I'll give your search strings a go. Thanks mate, dihydrogen monoxide (H20) 01:23, 2 February 2008 (UTC)
 * No...it was a payout of a Halo RTS. I just can't see how that could work (just like I can't see how AoE 4&5 will work). And that source kicks ass, thanks again. dihydrogen monoxide (H20) 01:28, 2 February 2008 (UTC)
 * You know I'm gonna bug you endlessly about this now, right ;) Seriously though, if you have a chance, could you say if there's anything you'd add to this? dihydrogen monoxide (H20) 01:51, 2 February 2008 (UTC)
 * Oh noes - that creates a GFDL issue if I want to delete that when I'm done. You wouldn't object to deletion, would you? (if that's OK, I'll just bug you to delete it and save the bother). dihydrogen monoxide (H20) 02:10, 2 February 2008 (UTC)

The issue is that you "contributed" to the page. But I'll msg you, so there shouldn't be an issue. dihydrogen monoxide (H20)
 * Per this, could you now delete User:Dihydrogen Monoxide/Age? Thanks in advance. dihydrogen monoxide (H20) 04:22, 3 February 2008 (UTC)

Bungie message
Nope sadly no reply. Perhaps someone else should try, so that he doesn't get 2 messages from the same person. Use the same text if you like. James086 Talk &#124; Email 02:16, 2 February 2008 (UTC)


 * I sent Frankie a private message on Bungie.net but the first email (to the webmaster) was from my gmail account. For some reason though the private message didn't appear in my "sent" box on Bungie.net perhaps Frankie's was full? James086 Talk &#124;  Email 02:23, 2 February 2008 (UTC)


 * I have some real world commitments as well today, but about another half hour of WP for me. James086 Talk &#124;  Email 02:30, 2 February 2008 (UTC)

Four FAC noms
David, you have four FAC noms running right now, including the two you just nominated back-to-back. WP:FAC instructions state: "Users should not add a second FA nomination until the first has gained support and reviewers' concerns have been substantially addressed." Please don't add two nominations at once, when you already have two running, as this increases the FAC backlog and makes it harder for other nominations to get adequate attention. Can you please pick one of the last two to remove until the other has garnered support? Thanks. Best regards, Sandy Georgia (Talk) 06:33, 2 February 2008 (UTC)

Proposal: User categories
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Your opinion, please
Would you regard the StarCraft and Brood War sections in the Appearances section of Sarah Kerrigan as too long? Try as I might, I simply cannot shorten them to a similar state as I see in other VG articles (such as Cortana, or even StarCraft). I can only put it down to being a far more complex and indepth story crammed into a shorter time, ie I could sum up the second half of Half-Life 2 as "Freeman then fought through City 17 and infiltrated the Citadel, confronting Breen", but so much seems to happen in SC over such a short time I can't begin to get to that overview level for as much of the game. -- Sabre (talk) 11:18, 5 February 2008 (UTC)


 * Ok, another quick(ish) question. You've probably noticed that in those SC articles I've referenced to the game using an external transcript. Due to the length of conversations involved, putting direct quotations into the references is simply too unwieldy, but you've probably also noticed that the current transcript urls don't exist. This is because the site involved is having trouble with its code, but having contacted the site manager I was assured that they would be restored eventually (currently they only have about 1/6 of all the transcripts up, but they are at a different url), but I was informed today that they will take a bit longer to get back up than expected - its all being done as part of a major site revamp thats got delayed. The question is can the articles pass GA while those links are dead, even if they are to be restored in the future (the references do at the least specify the point in the game, if not the exact dialogue), or should I wait (potentially quite a while) until the transcripts are restored? You seem like the right person to ask, since you appear to do more VG GA reviewing than anyone else. -- Sabre (talk) 18:44, 6 February 2008 (UTC)

Dante video game cites
Hiya, thanks for updating the cites on the Dante page! However, there's an issue with the cites, since they must all have the Title and Developer tags filled in, and apparently the Developer's name CAN NOT be Wikilinked. I'm taking a shot at fixing them, but notifying you just for future reference. But really, thanks for the contribution, seriously! -- Boradis (talk) 14:21, 5 February 2008 (UTC)

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Re: Link's Awakening
Normally I check sites like Joystiq or RPGamer for mention of Japanese reviews. They sometimes mention the Famitsu score or some other comments. Though given the age of the game, this may not help as much. The other thing I do is a Japanese language only search on some search engine like Google and see what turns up or just a search using the Japanese text. Like search for "ゼルダの伝説 夢をみる島". If it brings up too many non-gaming sites, I try something like "site:famitsu.com ゼルダの伝説 夢をみる島", or put the quotes on the title like "ゼルダの伝説" "夢をみる島". You know, get a little creative with the search query. With Japanese sites that I don't know if it is a reliable source, I check to see who owns it. Normally if it's a company and not privately owned it should be ok. On the other hand, there may not be any readily available sources for the info. I know that sucks, but this would be the first it's happened to an article like this. Good luck with that, I hope you find something. (Guyinblack25 talk 21:25, 6 February 2008 (UTC))
 * Maybe this will help. It's an article from the Mainichi Newspaper. It doesn't say much, but it's better than nothing. If I stumble across anything else I'll pass it along. (Guyinblack25 talk 21:39, 6 February 2008 (UTC))
 * Yeah, I see your point. But that's one of the things about being comprehensive, you need to include a broad viewpoint. Google and dictionary.reference.com/translate offer decent translations if you need a translator. (Guyinblack25 talk 22:23, 6 February 2008 (UTC))

Ned Scott's "edits"
Can you please talk to this user? After carefully describing to him the problem with mass-reverting templates he still doesn't seem to understand that he's destroying other changes made to the templates by me and other users. I've warned him in regards and gave him a lot more than the standard boiler plate template. However he has just re-reverted all of the templates in question.

This is the guy whom I referred to on my topic regarding Navbox styles. He also takes the time to slander me on my own and other users talk pages. I'd link to an example but it seems he's deleting his own infractions of that regard. He also casually removed the warnings I gave him for the mistakes he knowingly made in an effort to save effort.

Do you want to rollback the reverts or should I? I know the procedure for this type of vandalism (And that is what this is) so I'm not unable to stand up and do what's right. Even if consensus is reached in his favor he needs to understand the difference between adding a style and reverting legitimate changes. You've already given your opinion on the matter of styling, and that's why he's all up in arms like this... and alone in this crusade it seems, but this is bigger problem than mere color choices. Thanks. --AeronPrometheus (talk) 02:32, 8 February 2008 (UTC)


 * Using rollback in a content dispute is highly discouraged. If you cared to look you'd see that I actually preserved the additional edits. I don't believe I've made any slanderous comments about you, whatsoever. And believe it or not, people allowed to remove inappropriate warnings from their talk pages. Really, Aeron, why are you freaking out about this? -- Ned Scott 05:09, 8 February 2008 (UTC)

Re: StarCraft icon
I'd love some help, I'm not that great with creating new material. But, I can see benefits to having a free icon for various uses across Wikipedia (my main reason was for User:The Clawed One's userpage), even if that Wikiproject thing is very much decomposed.

I think the original creator of the image was on to something in terms of design, perhaps something of similar style can be created - just without the non-free image parts and letters and a generally less drag-and-drop look. Maybe a sphere or dark planet instead of a simple circle for the background?. I'd imagine switching to a PNG version would be more beneficial for transparency as well. -- Sabre (talk) 14:01, 8 February 2008 (UTC)


 * Absolutely outstandingly excellent! Thanks, it looks fantastic! I'd never have got anything near that quality. Thanks muchly!-- Sabre (talk) 10:22, 10 February 2008 (UTC)

Requests for arbitration/IRC
This arbitration case has closed and the final decision may be found at the link above. Giano is placed on civility restriction for one year. Should Giano make any edits which are judged by an administrator to be uncivil, personal attacks, or assumptions of bad faith, Giano may be blocked for the duration specified in the enforcement ruling. All parties in this case are strongly cautioned to pursue disputes in a civil manner designed to contribute to resolution and to cause minimal disruption. All the involved editors, both the supporters and detractors of IRC, are asked to avoid edit warring on project space pages even if their status is unclear, and are instructed to use civil discussion to resolve all issues with respect to the "admin" IRC channel. For the Arbitration committee, Thatcher 04:07, 9 February 2008 (UTC)

Nav template stuff
Aeron has now started an ANI thread about me reverting his style removals at WP:ANI. If you'd like to leave any comments regarding the situation please do. If not, no worries. -- Ned Scott 08:04, 9 February 2008 (UTC)