User talk:David P. Hughes

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Hello, David P. Hughes, and welcome to Wikipedia! Thank you for your contributions. I hope you like the place and decide to stay. Unfortunately, one or more of the pages you created, such as Plantvillage, may not conform to some of Wikipedia's guidelines, and may not be retained.

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Speedy deletion nomination of Plantvillage


A tag has been placed on Plantvillage requesting that it be speedily deleted from Wikipedia. This has been done under section A7 of the criteria for speedy deletion, because the article appears to be about web content, but it does not indicate how or why the subject is important or significant: that is, why an article about that subject should be included in an encyclopedia. Under the criteria for speedy deletion, such articles may be deleted at any time. Please read more about what is generally accepted as notable.

If you think this page should not be deleted for this reason, you may contest the nomination by visiting the page and clicking the button labelled "Click here to contest this speedy deletion". This will give you the opportunity to explain why you believe the page should not be deleted. However, be aware that once a page is tagged for speedy deletion, it may be removed without delay. Please do not remove the speedy deletion tag from the page yourself, but do not hesitate to add information in line with Wikipedia's policies and guidelines. If the page is deleted, and you wish to retrieve the deleted material for future reference or improvement, then please contact the deleting administrator, or if you have already done so, you can place a request here. red dog six (talk) 02:04, 27 October 2014 (UTC)

Please do not copy-paste from other websites.
Please read WP:Copy-paste; please do not copy paste from other websites. Yobol (talk) 22:02, 27 October 2014 (UTC)

The website I copied/pasted from is CC 2.0. Cant I copy/paste from that?

David P. Hughes (talk) 22:39, 27 October 2014 (UTC)
 * A couple of issues. First, there is no indication that that website meets criteria for a reliable source. Even if you can copy from them (I'm no expert on the subject on whether that is copyright violation), you did not credit them, and are therefore committing WP:Plagiarism. If you have further questions, you can ask a question at WP:MCQ. Hope this is helpful. Yobol (talk) 22:59, 27 October 2014 (UTC)

Reliability of plantvillage.com
It appears you are WP:SPAMming plantvillage.com across multiple plant articles. I do not see how it meets our guideline on what constitutes a reliable source. It appears to be a a self published source and therefore generally not reliable for use here on Wikipedia. Yobol (talk) 16:26, 28 October 2014 (UTC)
 * Thanks Yobol I am a professor at a Land Grant institution and we have invested a lot of effort (>$200k) and time (>2 years) taking knowledge from books and compendia (i.e. databases on diseases) that are behind paywalls and making them available. In addition to me, there is Prof Marcel Salathe (a disease expert) and Dr Lindsay McNenemy (a plant biologist) The original sources cannot be linked to as they are restricted to institutions that pay the large subscription fee. What PlantVillage does is take this and re-writes the content so it can become available (so, knowledge is not copyrighted). The whole site has the same license as Wikipedia https://www.plantvillage.com/faq?locale=en PlantVillage is now the the largest, open access site of plant health knowledge anywhere. Definitely the kind of thing that helps Wikipedia. Since we have the same license there is nothing to stop a WP user from copy/pasting. And in addition, to taking our images. This resource, PlantVillage, comes out of Penn State, a leading Land Grant Univeristy.


 * I hope that helps. Do please let me know if you need more info. I am new to editing Wikipedia and still learning how it all works. Thanks


 * Dr. David P. Hughes 16:48, 28 October 2014 (UTC)
 * I appreciate that you feel this is an appropriate source, but we have to go by Wikipedia guidelines on whether this is a reliable source. The FAQ page you reference says this is a user contributed forum, similar to a wiki format. There is no indication that the material in question has had any editorial oversight, so it appears to be a self published source. I have started a discussion on the Reliable Sources Noticeboard (see the link here; I would encourage you to get consensus first before adding further links or references to this source. I know it can be frustrating when a source you feel is good is being questioned, but we need to make sure we are doing things properly so that we can build this encyclopedia right. I look forward to see your comments in that thread. (As an aside, I have this talk page on my watchlist, so you can reply here or at that noticeboard and I will see it; there is no need for you to edit my user page any further). Yobol (talk) 18:01, 28 October 2014 (UTC)

October 2014
Hello, and welcome to Wikipedia. You appear to be engaged in an edit war with one or more editors. Although repeatedly reverting or undoing another editor's contributions may seem necessary to protect your preferred version of a page, on Wikipedia this is usually seen as obstructing the normal editing process, and often creates animosity between editors. Instead of edit warring, please discuss the situation with the editor(s) involved and try to reach a consensus on the talk page.

If editors continue to revert to their preferred version they are likely to be blocked from editing. This isn't done to punish an editor, but to prevent the disruption caused by edit warring. In particular, editors should be aware of the three-revert rule, which says that an editor must not perform more than three reverts on a single page within a 24-hour period. While edit warring on Wikipedia is not acceptable in any amount, breaking the three-revert rule is very likely to lead to a block. Thank you. Yobol (talk) 18:07, 29 October 2014 (UTC)

Signatures
I don't think there's anything wrong with how you sign your edits on Talk pages etc, but you might like to know that you can use 4 consecutive tildes to generate your sig (see just below the editing window, where it says "Sign your posts on talk pages"; you can click that button or just type them out manually). Bromley86 (talk) 04:31, 31 October 2014 (UTC)