User talk:David Shankbone/Archive 6

CPW
Thanks for adding your images to the articles, they are very good, encyclopedic as, as, as all get out. Nice work on getting the entire buildings in the shots for 55 Central Park West and The Century (building). One day I will come to New York and see these places for myself. Most of these CPW articles I have worked on will eventually get nominated for Good article status and maybe beyond. I do too much on here so who knows when I will get to that. : ) Thanks again. IvoShandor 13:43, 27 May 2007 (UTC)

Hey
Hey man I think you do a great job. I'll add those pages to my watchlist and revert when necessary. I think its pretty reasonable to want your name in the filenames. - Francis Tyers · 20:19, 27 May 2007 (UTC)
 * Yep, me too. Jkelly's and Mel's pages are on my watchlist, and I saw your message. If I can help, please let me know. By the way, you mentioned one of the IPs, but not the other. ElinorD (talk) 20:30, 27 May 2007 (UTC)

Has this been resolved? Jkelly 17:30, 1 June 2007 (UTC)

Dang!
I just uploaded Image:Patricia Neal by David Shankbone cropped.jpg so you would have your name in the filename, but then found you'd already done that! :-) Not to worry. Hopefully someone will get round to deleting the version I uploaded. Yours is Image:Patricia Neal cropped by David Shankbone.jpg. Carcharoth 05:30, 28 May 2007 (UTC)
 * Yeah, I saw all that at the admins noticeboard. As I said, I'm not getting involved in that, but hopefully others are dealing with it. Hope it all works out. Great pics, by the way! Love the ones of authors in front of bookshelves - that is the best background of all! :-) Carcharoth 05:40, 28 May 2007 (UTC)


 * David, you did not crop these images.  Please give appropriate attribution.  71.112.115.55 17:05, 28 May 2007 (UTC)
 * Attribution is given in the details, as was pointed out to you by WJBScribe. Any further Wikistalking or trolling on your part will result in an immediate block, as you have been blocked about five times in the last two months under your various IP sockpuppets.  Perhaps it is time to move on?  Switching IPs was fine, but now your behavior and motivation is known by so many people, that you should perhaps just "move on" and pick new fights.  Switching IPs won't do you much good since you continue the same behavior, to the same articles, with the same people.  --David Shankbone 17:33, 28 May 2007 (UTC)

Your message
It looks as though others have got there first, but I'll keep an eye on things too. --Mel Etitis ( Talk ) 12:50, 28 May 2007 (UTC)

Thanks!
Thanks for the images you added to articles in Category:Condominiums and housing cooperatives in New York. -- Petri Krohn 00:42, 29 May 2007 (UTC)

Ralph Nader
Hi DavidShankBone, please help with this article. One editor already had a years-old article she was working on deleted, within six days no less. Thought we'd reached a good compromise here. Alas... thx for yr help. Telogen 05:38, 29 May 2007 (UTC)

Thanks
for dealing with my talk page troll while I was away! Fireplace 16:32, 29 May 2007 (UTC)

Thompkins Square Park Police Riot
Hi. You just left me a message about nominating this article for FA status, but I'm a wee bit confused as to why. Not why you nominated it, but why you contacted me. Natalie 18:26, 29 May 2007 (UTC)
 * Gotcha. Natalie 19:07, 29 May 2007 (UTC)

Sure.
I'll take a look, that's an interesting article. By the way, would you mind taking a look here and maybe weighing in? It's not an article I really care all that much about, but to be honest I'm a little creeped out that someone anonymous would go to such effort to discredit me. I'm not really inclined to read the whole thing...at least not at the moment...but even a quick glance showed massive errors about my career. -Pete 18:31, 29 May 2007 (UTC)

John Barrymore
David, if you don't know then I'll tell you. John was born on February 15 1882 not the 14th as you keep reverting to. Please take note of this. The date of the 14th has been frequently misprinted from publication to publication over the decades. Internet sources dont help as one website copies from another website and the erroneous date keeps getting posted without anyone doing the research. Also the link you keep stubbornly posting to John Drew Barrymore(1932-2004) is UNNECESSARY as he is mentioned in his father's text chronologically and also in the text concerning his daughter Drew and his mother Dolores Costello.

Thank you, well at least we meet half way. I still think the hyperlinking to John Jr is silly but if it makes you happy so be it. ciao

ok now you're lying. I didn't make no changes about appendicitis, unref tag to abortion(even though that's what it was! SEMANTICS), or taking him out of the Roman Catholic category. Others may have and then were included in my reverts. SO WHAT! People could always go in and fix semi-correct info. I've done it on numerous other Wiki entries chasing behind peoples' incorrect & sometimes intentionally wrong info. It's a lot of time consuming work and sometimes I think Wikipedia ought to be cutting me a check. And please don't refer to me as vandalising the entry. I could take you around Wikipedia and show you examples of people truly vandalising. Your inclusion of an out of place tag to the son is in it's own way vandalism as it junks and makes tacky the opening of the father's entry. Perhaps creating an External Links section and placing that info there would deem more appropriate. My changes were always about the stupid tag/link to Junior at the top and Senior's incorrect date of birth. People don't have to be as smart as you or me about the Barrymores. If they see that John Sr died in 1942 then they know he's NOT Drew's dad but her granddad since she was born in 1975. Common damn sense.

goddamned right cut me a check(and you too if you took your head out your ass & got smart). Even though i was being facetious about the check business, the work, and it is work as researchers are paid to do similar, is basically free labor for Wikipedia. But it's all for naught because people like you come along and louse good entries things up. Whether I contribute or not is none of your damn business. I know I dont have to contribute and people like you make me not want to contribute even though Wikipedia can eventually be a good thing if know-it-alls like you would go away. Just take care of DavidShankBone, stop being hard-headed, open your ears and listen sometime, and you'll be fine.
 * LOL.--David Shankbone 18:51, 30 May 2007 (UTC)

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Featured article candidate
Hello :) Just leaving a message to tell you that I've striked out my comments here as they were being to picky and out of order, hope you are not offended as no offence was meant. Thanks &mdash; The Sunshine Man 12:25, 1 June 2007 (UTC)
 * Same to you.... have a great day and happy editing! The Sunshine Man 13:55, 1 June 2007 (UTC)

Alliance Defense Fund
I have raised some concern about the lack of a NPOV in a certain paragraph of the Alliance Defense Fund article, and having noted that you have shown interest in previous talk page discussions on this topic would invite you to input at Talk:Alliance_Defense_Fund. thanks Key lay 31 hablame 09:17, 2 June 2007 (UTC)

IP
I've gone ahead and blocked for 8 months (as indef on an IP is generally bad). Might want to rescind your RFAR request? &rArr;   SWAT Jester    Denny Crane.  23:39, 2 June 2007 (UTC)
 * Unfortunately that was useless. The IP is in Verizon's DSL pool.  All the stalker has to do is unplug his DSL modem and wait 5 minutes and when he logs back on, he will have a new IP address.  For example,  was used by the afro guy from April 1 to April 8, but on April 10 it appears to belong to someone in the semiconductor industry, not unusual in the Seattle area, and when the afro guy reappeared he was at a different address. David, what you need to understand is that this person is, for all intents and purposes, banned.  Any admin who is alerted to this behavior and is aware of the history will block the address for you.  However, it is not technically possible to proactively stop this person from editing.  He apparently lives in or near Snohomish, Washington, and his internet access is via a DSL connection from Verizon.  We can issue a block on any IP address he uses, but he can get a new IP address almost any time he wants to.  Depending on how Verizon's network is configured, he may be randomly assigned an IP from a pool of as many as 65000 addresses.  If we blocked all 65000 addresses, that would mean cutting off access to Wikipedia for potentially thousands of Seattle-area users.  There are many vandals of this type—fortunately you have only encountered this one.  While the situation is unique and disturbing to you, it is not unique to Wikipedia.  The best solution is usually to revert, block, and ignore.  Eventually most of these folks get bored, and reacting with outraged talk page posts only entertains them.

Each time this happens you can post a note with the IP address at the vandalism noticeboard, WP:AIV. Unfortunately, many admins who watch there will be unaware that this is an ongoing problem, and will react by suggesting that this is a content dispute that should be addressed by talking about it, or that it is not serious enough vandalism to block without first going through the warning levels. However, this is not a techincal problem, this is a people problem. In your report you should note that this is a repeat vandal who keeps changing his IP address, and that he has been previously blocked by many other admins for stalking your edits and harassing you, and that ArbCom recognizes that he is a banned vandal, using this link. That should be enough to get the admins watching WP:AIV to take immediate action. (You could also run for adminship yourself. You seem more than qualified.)  Good luck. Thatcher131 01:40, 3 June 2007 (UTC)

Fair use rationale for Image:Freedom-to-marry.jpg
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Tompkins Square Park Police Riot (1988)
David, I would like to work on this article a bit, but I simply don't have access to the sources (and I'm too lazy to go to the library--or I'm working). Please be sure to pop me a note another time you have an article you would like some editing help with, as I enjoy working with you on Wikipedia. KP Botany 19:57, 4 June 2007 (UTC)

Fair use rationale for Image:PolitoSavageArt.jpg
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Thanks
Thanks for defending me in RfA but I expected the scrutiny anyway, I had seen it there before as I watched from afar. Thanks though. : ) IvoShandor 08:39, 6 June 2007 (UTC)


 * I don't condone it either, I have said as much, but I just wanted to let you know I appreciate you stepping up and speaking out. And I don't "let the bastards get me down." (That is not a personal attack against those folks in case they construe it that way, its a song lyric :)IvoShandor 22:57, 6 June 2007 (UTC)

Andrea Masley
Very honest of you to admit your newbie errors! Did you want this to go too? Image:AndreaMasley2.jpg --Steve (Stephen)talk 09:47, 6 June 2007 (UTC)

Park Riot FAC
You do need to contact people on their talk pages once all their objections have been addressed. A lot of people don't bother to look/review a lot of FACs and forget to recheck them. DevAlt 14:21, 6 June 2007 (UTC)

Meetup
Hello David. Please come to the First Annual New York Wikipedian Central Park Picnic. R.S.V.P. @ Meetup/NYC -- Y not? 15:35, 6 June 2007 (UTC)

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question
David, you've had first hand experience with dealing with me in an administrative and mediator role on the Franken page. Would you mind commenting on the Workshop at the Miskin Arbitration? I've grown so frustrated with it in the past days that I've just decided to not associate with it anymore, however it would be nice to have someone familiar with my adminning and editing to comment. &rArr;   SWAT Jester    Denny Crane.  23:09, 6 June 2007 (UTC)

Howard Beach, Queens
First of all, my appreciation for all of your work, especially in providing pictures and improving articles for all things related to New York City, especially your Tompkins Square Park Police Riot (1988) article. I saw when you had placed your comment on the Coleman Square article, and I would agree that the article does not stand as notable on its own and should be merged to the Howard Beach, Queens article. I was all the more surprised to see your edit to the Hawtree Creek article, which probably has an even lesser justification for existence as its own article. Any thoughts on pushing for a megamerger of all of these articles? Alansohn 15:24, 11 June 2007 (UTC)

Ivo
Ivo did not have a civil discussion with me. He personally attacked me, calling me overzealous and politically correct. He should have only discussed my arguments, rather than denegrating me personally as somehow at fault ("a politically correct zealot") for finding "pimp" offensive as a user name. I am offended that you characterized someone's vote against Ivo as "disturbing." I found Ivo's telling me I had no right to voice an opinion because I'm "over zealous" and just being "politically correct" a lot more disturbing. KP Botany 16:17, 12 June 2007 (UTC)
 * You know, David, I've been told over and over that I am too sensitive, that I'm overzealous. My arguments were dismissed in exchange for characterizations of my personality, by Ivo, by others.  No one enjoys being the target of character assassination simply because they expressed their opinion on something.  If you disagree with me, disagree with me, but please don't make it about my personal failure to be thick-skinned.  I'll be as thin-skinned or as thick-skinned as I want.  KP Botany 17:10, 12 June 2007 (UTC)
 * Why are you talking to me like this? At this point, you're the one lashing out, not me.  What you're now saying is I have no right to defend myself against personal attacks.  Let's quit with that said.  KP Botany 17:23, 12 June 2007 (UTC)
 * Blah blah blah, I am not allowed to express my opinion when another editor is being too politcally correct, in my opinion? That's the lamest reason to throw out "you personally attacked me" I have ever seen. Get a thicker skin. IvoShandor 11:39, 14 June 2007 (UTC)

Thanks
Thanks for the barnstar. IvoShandor 11:39, 14 June 2007 (UTC)

My recent RfA
Thanks for your support and ardent defense in my recent, unsuccessful RfA. It's much appreciated. IvoShandor 16:01, 14 June 2007 (UTC)

Image:DamienHirstVirginMother.JPG
I have tagged Image:DamienHirstVirginMother.JPG as no rationale, because it does not provide a fair use rationale. If you believe the image to be acceptable for fair use according to Wikipedia policy, please provide a rationale explaining as much, in accordance with the fair use rationale guideline, on the image description page. Please also consider using or one of the other tags listed at Image copyright tags. Thank you. ShakespeareFan00 11:31, 16 June 2007 (UTC)

Warning Templates
I noticed you recently gave a warning to an anon. IP, but you didn't use the typical template. They can be found here, if you so choose to use them Elenseel 02:18, 19 June 2007 (UTC)

See you at New York
Hey! thank you for inviting me at the meet up in Central Park, John Manuel -19:47, 19 June 2007 (UTC)

RSVP
Thanks for the invite, but I'm 6 hours outside the city, and otherwise occupied. horse  dreamer  04:11, 20 June 2007 (UTC)

Larry Kramer
You should consider nominating this article for FA status. It's very good. Raul654 17:20, 20 June 2007 (UTC)

RE: [I have about 1,000+ shots on Wikipedia, it's only in the last several months I have focused on portraiture. It makes me very glad to know you enjoy them.]

Do you shoot celebs for profit as well, for gossip/trade magazines? Or is it a hobby not a career? Do you shoot all digital or still some film cameras/SLR's? Just curious. I take it you live in L.A. If so check out the improv group "The Groundlings," they are the best :)  -PETER in San Diego CA

Vid2vid 23:25, 20 June 2007 (UTC)

P.S. When is the next Central Park meet-up? Could you have one around Thxgivin 2007?? Vid2vid 23:26, 20 June 2007 (UTC)

Heya
Hey you, shame about the Tompkins Park riot FAC. the main objections were all about the quality of the prose, so if you get a good copyeditor in to fix it, I suspect it will receive a better recption next time. Why not nominate Larry Kramer next though? If Raul says it is good it probably has a good chance of being promoted.

Anyway, to reach the secondary point of my message, can you take a photo of Harvey Milk High School? I want to work on it when I get some time and some images would look great. Dev920 (Have a nice day!) 11:08, 24 June 2007 (UTC)
 * Well, David, I have to tell you the same thing I tell vegetarians. If you opt out of the system completely, the system does not end, it does not get better. It merely becomes more degraded because there are fewer decent people fighting for the right thing, leaving the less ethical to rule as they will. I find Wikipedia intensely frustrating at times, but to quit simply means the people here to politick rather than edit win, and the encyclopedia suffers. I think it is a crying shame that the park article should suffer for that reason; do you object if I work on it and ask you for expertise? To lose you is a great loss for the Wikipedia, and a loss for all of us who are friends with you here. I hope you will reconsider. Dev920 (Have a nice day!) 15:27, 24 June 2007 (UTC)

Image sizes
I read up (see Wikipedia_talk:Image_use_policy#Image_sizing_for_diagrams) and it appears u are correct. I didn't know fixed-size imagery was deprecated. My bad. Apols, Editwikipediausername 20:10, 25 June 2007 (UTC)
 * Thank you. Editwikipediausername 01:13, 26 June 2007 (UTC)

Some NYC National Historic Landmark image requests
David,

To improve our coverage of National Historic Landmarks in New York City for WP:NRHP, I thought I'd ask if you could get a couple of photos in your neck of the woods when you have the chance:


 * Church of the Ascension (New York): Fifth and Tenth. Currently represented by a fair-use line drawing from one of the church's own documents. We can do better.
 * Players Club. 16 Gramercy Park. Again, we should have a picture of this one.
 * Plymouth Church of the Pilgrims Over in Brooklyn, at 75 Hicks St.
 * McGraw-Hill Building. Not the one you already got, the 42nd St. one (frankly, these two should be separate articles).

Once you get them, just put them in the articles, let me know and I'll take care of the infoboxes. Daniel Case 04:29, 28 June 2007 (UTC)

FYI: Over the past few days, I've taken pictures of 50% of the Manhattan NRHP sites and am in the process of adding them... dm 04:35, 9 July 2007 (UTC)

Image:The Taint by David Shankbone.jpg
I removed the image from the taint (slang) article, as the article is, well, about a slang term and not a body part. However, the image might ok for the perineum article, which is about the ol' fleshy fun bridge as a body part, not as a word used in comedy and slang. Cheers.  young  american (ahoy hoy) 13:32, 28 June 2007 (UTC)
 * As I read it, the taint article narrowly refers to a slang word, while perineum is about the body part itself. It is sort of like how anus vs. asshole. The anus article does and should have photographs, while asshole does not and should not. If you like, we can start a WP:RfC on the topic and let the other members of the community discuss our differing opinions. If consensus falls on your side of the arguement, I would be more than happy to go along with the photo. (BTW, thanks for posting all of the great photos of celebs, politicians, and LGBT folk here. They add tons on quality and cotenxt to the articles).  young  american  (ahoy hoy) 14:14, 28 June 2007 (UTC)
 * Cool. I wanted to make sure that you knew that my objection is a contency of content objection and not a matter of being moral zealotry on my part (my family left Wales for the States to mine coal, not practice Puritanism :) ). If you ever need any help from someone with fancy admin buttons or just need a fresh set of eyes to read over something, don't hesitate to give me a shout. Cheers.  young  american  (ahoy hoy) 19:23, 28 June 2007 (UTC)

I've replaced the other photo of the guy that shaved his 'tweener with your more realistic photo (99 % of guys don't let razors or hot wax get anywhere near that area) on the perineum article gallery. It might get reverted, but I figured it would be worth a shot.  young  american (ahoy hoy) 19:34, 28 June 2007 (UTC)
 * That'd be a good idea. The numbers would be useful, but the older shaved photo was, yea, a bit too Gary Glitter-tastic.  young  american  (ahoy hoy) 19:40, 28 June 2007 (UTC)

Erection
Impressive though the image is, I do wonder if that article is already sufficiently illustrated... WjBscribe 20:38, 29 June 2007 (UTC)
 * Well up we'll see what happens - there has been alot of competition to get images into that article ;-). But yeah, I supsect less "spread-eagleness" might help keep the picture in... WjBscribe 20:49, 29 June 2007 (UTC)

I agree, very unneccessary.--Judgeking 20:48, 29 June 2007 (UTC)
 * I'm not sure what you are agreeing with since nobody said it was unnecessary except for you. --David Shankbone 20:50, 29 June 2007 (UTC)
 * I dunno about very unneccessary - the question as ever it to establish what the optimum number of images are for a given article and which are the best to include. That image has some unique elements compared to the others - the angle from which it is taken for instance (the other images are all side-views). WjBscribe 20:51, 29 June 2007 (UTC)

Yeah, I think that keeps it "on topic" :-). WjBscribe 20:58, 29 June 2007 (UTC)


 * Haha…impressive is right! That took uh…balls. (instantly reverting without explanation, and then calling it "very unnecessary", seems a little extreme though, considering the subject matter.)-Pete 21:00, 29 June 2007 (UTC)

I added one of your new images to Frenulum of prepuce of penis - as I notice that your friend's circumcision removed his (something we don't seem to have previously had an image to illustrate). WjBscribe 21:45, 29 June 2007 (UTC)


 * I put the erection image into a show/hide box. I think that we should take potential readers into account.  I realize that Wikipedia is not, nor should be, censored.  However, readers may not expect to see quite such a "bow down and worship" image at the top of the article.  (What if some old prude or impressionable youngster were to arrive here by mistake?)  Anyway, feel free to use your own editorial judgement on whether to revert.  I like the image, but I also think it's a bad idea to have it displayed so prominently.  Cheers, Silly rabbit 22:04, 30 June 2007 (UTC)

Your edits to striptease
Please stop removing relevant and long standing content from the article. It IS relevant and you seem to be using excuses referring to 'nightclub' when a nightclub wasn't even mentioned. If you want to make such changes please discuss it on the talk page first. Thank you. -196.207.32.38 13:32, 30 June 2007 (UTC)


 * I re-inserted your more informative change to the image caption, but this anon seems quite keen on keeping the image attribution intact. So I kept it as a parenthetical note.  I agree that it looks like advertising and should be removed, but it looks like you'll have to do it the hard way &mdash; via the talk page, as anon suggests.  Silly rabbit 15:01, 30 June 2007 (UTC)

That image
Hi David. One thing I did do was add Image:Erection by David Shankbone.jpg to the discussion page of MediaWiki:Bad_image_list. I could have added it to the list proper myself but that wouldn't have been fair. My rationale is that it's a major candidate for userpage vandalism and other trickery. This is more in the interests of retention of the image, than it is deletion- it'll at least counter the 'vandal magnet' argument. You might want to weigh in over there with your opinions - A l is o n  ☺ 00:44, 1 July 2007 (UTC)
 * Heh - looks like our messages crossed! - A l is o n  ☺ 00:46, 1 July 2007 (UTC)

Awesome picture Shankbone. Would love to see more. Scotteroo

Pathetic erection
You call that an erection? It's pretty pathetic. I'll be uploading a real erection in the next couple of days! Straight guy 01:27, 1 July 2007 (UTC)
 * Ugh - men! - A l is o n  ☺ 01:28, 1 July 2007 (UTC)
 * LOL - I think it's funny. Especially since it will take him a couple of days. --David Shankbone 01:51, 1 July 2007 (UTC)
 * Never, you mean- I reported him, and he got blocked. Nwwaew (Talk Page) (Contribs) (E-mail me) 02:35, 1 July 2007 (UTC)
 * Damn, I was looking forward to what his days of practice would produce. --David Shankbone 02:41, 1 July 2007 (UTC)
 * (ec) What a shame! It'd have been interesting to see what he ... umm ... came up with :) - A l is o n  ☺ 02:42, 1 July 2007 (UTC)
 * Who knows...maybe he wouldn't have risen to the ocassion. --David Shankbone 02:45, 1 July 2007 (UTC)
 * How anti-....um, never mind. -Pete 10:35, 1 July 2007 (UTC)

Pump
Hi David, I'm likely to be out for the rest of the day, so it won't be until much later that I can bring the Striptease issue up at the pump. I would be happy to do this, though. Cheers, Silly rabbit 13:52, 1 July 2007 (UTC)

Im not here for
An editing war, but truly the images ADD NOTHING to the article. I have removed the pics and will keep on till there is a majority for or against. And truly, Blocking me from editing? For what? I am not vandlaizing the article. But you go on and put the pics back up. I dont care at this point. But My above statement shall remain true. They will just be taken back down unless a greater number (Besides you and Shadowrun arent a majority no matter how much you wish) agree that the pics should stay. Sounds more than fair to me.


 * I, too, will work to keep the article in its intact state. Sbierwagen 21:25, 1 July 2007 (UTC)

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Pubic hair
I find your image comparatively ugly, and I very much doubt your ability to identify "latino" genitalia. The image is called "afric am tightcrop". Obviously "afric am" stands for African-American. While there is some good reason for preferring "white" bodies in this case - since they allow the hair to stand out more sharply, I think this is overidden by the preference for racial diversity which has been several time proposed here. Paul B 12:48, 2 July 2007 (UTC)


 * Don't be disingenuous; you know perefectly well what I mean. I misunderstood you to be referring to the original photo. I think the misunderstanding was reasonable since, as I say, "latino" is not a race. Paul B 12:58, 2 July 2007 (UTC)


 * So people who speak Romance languages are not "white"? Please! Read the talk page and don't tell me to archive it. Archive it yourself if you think it needs doing. Paul B 13:05, 2 July 2007 (UTC)


 * There was no incivility towards you, just a generic comment. But your instant defensive over-reaction and demands for apologies seems to indicate that it is something that touches a nerve, as anyone who surveys your talk page might easily appreciate. I'm sorry that that is so, but I also think instant recourse to WP:CIVIL etc in such cases can function as a way to evade the central issues, as can aggressive and irrelevant comments such as your remarks about archiving. I did not "bring up" the subject of race. It was brought up on the talk page of the Pubic hair article long ago, as was the subject of exhibitionism, which, by the way, may involve displying one's partners' bodies as well as one's own. Read the discussion on the talk page and you will see that both of these issues have several times been raised. That is why I referred to them on the talk page. Paul B 13:36, 2 July 2007 (UTC)


 * Bring in a mediator if you like, but I think that would be an extreme over-reaction. I repeat, I made no personal attack. Neither my first post here nor my post on the Talk page contained any. Subsequent comments have been in response to what you have written. Paul B 14:21, 2 July 2007 (UTC)


 * All of my edits to your talk page have been legimate. The first was a courtesy to draw your attention to the discussion. However as long as you stop leaving mesasages for me I will stop replying. Paul B 14:31, 2 July 2007 (UTC)

Tompkins Square Park Riot
I am copy editing Tompkins Square Park Police Riot (1988). I see some POV issues that may need to be addressed here and there. It's hard to avoid with this kind of stuff, it took me forever to weed out the POV in Rock Springs massacre but I think its much better for it. I am making some comments on the talk page so my changes and notes can be discussed. IvoShandor 13:43, 2 July 2007 (UTC)

finetuning
I've just read your introduction and I think you could finetune the link to the East Village for East Village - assuming you live in NYC. Sorry to hear you 'disdain youth' btw...Zigzig20s 16:08, 6 July 2007 (UTC)
 * My pleasure...Zigzig20s 16:20, 6 July 2007 (UTC)

check it
Want to see a photographic tour-de-force of where I live? Check this. Wish I could say I had anything to do with it ;) -Pete 19:56, 6 July 2007 (UTC)

Congrats
Hey, my famous friend, I just read the article and it is great. I have always felt proud of having befriended you and now even more. Hey you and me have become celebrities (smile), we have given Wikipedia a lot of positive publicity. I wonder if any of the big honchos in Wiki have noticed? But, who cares. As I have said before you are more then a friend you are my brother. Tony the Marine 19:59, 6 July 2007 (UTC)

That's a nice feather in your cap. I expect to see more... Jkelly 18:14, 9 July 2007 (UTC)

Thankyou!
Dev920 (Have a nice day!) 13:10, 11 July 2007 (UTC)

Re: Editing N-YHS
I understand the principles of the open copyright, and I will do some research into what images I can and cannot use. There are a lot of images that are released with the press kits the institution sends out_ so do those fall under the "free copyright" rules? If I added those to the wiki commons, would it be acceptable for use on the wikipedia then? What confuses me is that these pieces that we want to use in the article are housed at the museum_ so I'm not exactly sure what copyright falls wherein terms of usage. But, I suppose they're just "reproductions" after all_

Secondly, I would like to point out that many of the New York Museums (such as the Met, or MoMA) use that kind of POV language you pointed out. The Met says it "is one of the world's largest and most important art museums." (pulled right from their wiki entry)_ says who? Why is this allowed? Thus, my question is... what's the line between neutral point of view and I don't know... what is believable but bias sounding point of view?

If we have sources, like sourcing the media/newspapers/reviews_ then would it be ok?

I think that's it.

Best.

LGBT WikiProject Newsletter
Delivered on 16:00, 6 July 2007 (UTC).

NYHS article updates
Dear David, I am in the process of updating my article to your specifications. However, I am somewhat confused as to what you would consider "obivous". Is that really a fair standard considering Moma, the Met, and numerous other museums cite there own website as a source? Is that not biased as well? I am updating my article to include references about the museum from the New York Times, the Boston Globe, and The New York Sun. It will also include praise from numerous prominent historians. Before you questioned my capabilities and background for writing such an article. I am a senior History Major at Columbia Univeristy in New York City. My advisor is historian Eric Foner and I am also closely connected to Kenneth Jackson, the former President of the NYHS. I do not feel that this makes me biased, but rahter gives me unique insight into the workings of this institution. Please let me know if there is anything else I need to include. The last thing I want is to get into some sort of back and forth with this article that will only waste both of our time. I am just trying to provide a truthful account that will let the public know more about the NYHS, an institution that has a lot to offer them. Best, Juliana

danes and Chihuahuas
Were you the guy with the camera or the guy with the leashes?--Marhawkman 16:54, 12 July 2007 (UTC) -I was just wondering because it didn't mention whoever was helping you.--Marhawkman 17:18, 12 July 2007 (UTC)
 * Oh. I was thinking there was one person holding the camera and one to hold the dogs still.--Marhawkman 17:22, 12 July 2007 (UTC)
 * Ah, nevermind then.--Marhawkman 17:28, 12 July 2007 (UTC)

...in lieu of barnstar...
Terrific picture of the guv'nor! How did you get ahold of him? You're my hero, Shankbone, I love your work. Kudos. -- Y not? 02:40, 13 July 2007 (UTC)

Teabagging
There seems to be some trouble getting an image for Teabagging. If you have time (and interest), please review Talk:Teabagging to see if you can address this problem. --  Jreferee  (Talk) 22:19, 14 July 2007 (UTC)

Questions from a fan (again)
Hi 3 questions. [1] How can I put a "Click here to leave a message" on *MY* Wikipedia Talk page (profile page), like you have? I really want to copy that! [2] Do you shoot SLR?Acutal film and/or digital?DO you always lug your camera with you wherever you are and does it have a long lens? [3] What separates you from the hated 'paparazzi?' Peace my new friend! Posted by Vid2vid 18:31, 18 July 2007 (UTC)

Question Followup
RE: "In the fourth grade the nuns at my Catholic school told my mother in a parent-teacher conference I wanted them dead. I did not. I'm a big guy (6'3), athletic (185#), slim (32W x 34L) and pale (25% Irish/25% Dutch/50% German). I'm glad I'm getting older (wiser) and I disdain youth." [1] Funny story about the nuns [2] You are a big guy. I'm 6' and only 135ish and same 32W34L (I think? I always forget and loathe clothes shopping) [3] I echo your wiser thing but love youth and adore/cherish adolescents (not to sound perv!) and [4] Are you LGBT friendly??? --Vid2vid 18:44, 18 July 2007 (UTC)

School boy
If you have a problem with humor you shouldn't edit an encyclopedia, you should go to school.--BMF81 13:01, 22 July 2007 (UTC)

Bob Guccione
Are you sure that Image:Bob Guccione by David Shankbone.jpg is Bob Guccione? I've had someone who knows him very well email me (via OTRS) and say it isn't him, and I checked this and they seemed to look different, so I have removed them for now. I'd like to know whether this could be an error in uploading them under the wrong name, or whether you're sure it's him (and therefore we've got a bit of a pickle on our hands). If you could respond at User talk:Daniel, that'd be fantastic, and we can take it from there. Cheers,  Daniel  05:52, 23 July 2007 (UTC)

Thank you for the message. I found out recently that a co-worker was logging onto my computer and causing a bit of mischief on Wikipedia. I've upped my security measures and it won't happen again.

Again, thank you.

Possibly unfree Image:Julian Schnabel by David Shankbone.jpg
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Orphaned non-free image (Image:Nypdpatch.jpg)
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Hi David, I don't think Elton John had any panflute on any of his songs. The Lion King did have one. I'll double check. Do you actually see it listed in the liner credits or do you just think you hear one? .. but most of all there are thousand of really notable songs for the panflute. I am afraid many people will put up songs that they think is the panflute but really is another kind of flute or a synth. I know because of all my years of experience on this instrument... Probably the most notable panflute song of all would be Zamfir playing the Lonely Shepherd, also used in Kill Bill and Picnic at Hanging Rock.

Re:John Waters
It is my belief that the only images that should exist in articles are those that serve a unique purpose. I don't think that showing Waters at a different point in his life is enough of a reason to include it in the article. However, if you insist on having the image in the article, I won't make a fuss about it. Best, DLand TALK 16:43, 27 July 2007 (UTC)
 * Oh, that's silly. We show people from decade to decade if we have the images available to us all the time. Look at Amgelina Jolie. Dev920 (Have a nice day!) 18:05, 27 July 2007 (UTC)

Chih
David, though I totally agree with you about that crap image and the moron who keeps saying yours is some kind of half breed, this is not really a case of vandalism. VanTucky (talk) 00:21, 28 July 2007 (UTC)

Good point. He sort of killed any assumption of good faith. Happy birthday yourself, and thanks! VanTucky (talk) 00:27, 28 July 2007 (UTC)

Sorry!


has smiled at you! Smiles promote WikiLove and hopefully this one has made your day better. Spread the WikiLove by smiling at someone else, whether it be someone you have had disagreements with in the past or a good friend. Happy editing! Smile at others by adding {{subst:Smile}} to their talk page with a friendly message.

Chihuahua
I think you need to start giving this image vandal the proper set of warnings. They are getting on my nerves, and causing a problem in the article. VanTucky (talk) 23:35, 29 July 2007 (UTC)

Good advice. VanTucky (talk) 03:44, 30 July 2007 (UTC)

Kerry Washington
Hi. I noticed you replaced the accompanying image in the Kerry Washington article with a photo that you took. Can you tell me why you think this new photo is more appropriate? Thanks. :-) Nightscream 02:13, 30 July 2007 (UTC)


 * Thanks for the timely response. Do you really think it's more flattering, given the facial expression? Nightscream 02:19, 30 July 2007 (UTC)


 * Well, I think the smile in the previous pic is more flattering, but I don't quarrel with the issue of the date or quality (I admit I used a disposable camera and am not a professional), so I'll yield to your judgment on this one. Thanks. :-) Nightscream 11:08, 30 July 2007 (UTC)