User talk:David e cooper

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China Communications Standards Association
Hi David! I just wanted to touch bases. While we certainly welcome and appreciate constructive edits to the encyclopedia, it is imperative that edits comply with established policies and guidelines. Accordingly, please review the Manual of Style and guidelines for citations and external links. When we have a wikilink in an article, we refrain from adding primary sources regarding the article in the wikilink in an effort to avoid redundancy. Please review the guidelines to become familiar with the differentiation between primary, secondary, and tertiary sources. In order to establish notability for the above article, we need to provide significant coverage in reliable sources that are independent of the subject. Anything less will result in deletion of the article. Let's work on making sure the article meets the community standards. If you have questions, please feel free to contact me. Best regards, Cindy  ( talk to me ) 17:09, 22 December 2012 (UTC)

December 2012
You currently appear to be engaged in an edit war&#32; according to the reverts you have made on China Communications Standards Association. Users are expected to collaborate with others, to avoid editing disruptively, and to try to reach a consensus rather than repeatedly undoing other users' edits once it is known that there is a disagreement. Please be particularly aware, Wikipedia's policy on edit warring states: If you find yourself in an editing dispute, use the article's talk page to discuss controversial changes; work towards a version that represents consensus among editors. You can post a request for help at an appropriate noticeboard or seek dispute resolution. In some cases it may be appropriate to request temporary page protection. If you engage in an edit war, you may be blocked from editing. Cindy  ( talk to me ) 17:12, 22 December 2012 (UTC)
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CCSA 22 December 2012
Dear Cindamuse, Regarding my new article on CCSA (China Communication Standards Association). Since I only created it today, it is unlikely that there is an editing war going on. But I do notice that style changes were being made very soon after I created it, and I think there was a conflict with myself and perhaps you trying to edit it simultaneously. I've added a few references from other reputable (and independent) standards organisations showing the significance of CCSA. Also, I would point out that a German Language version of the entry already exists. David e cooper (talk) 17:24, 22 December 2012 (UTC)
 * For the sake of continuity, I've moved your comments back to your talk page. When new articles are created on Wikipedia, they go through a review process or new page patrol. During this assessment, we review the article to identify issues and determine viability for the encyclopedia. While reviewing the article, I removed inappropriate content and citations and have explained these actions in the edit summary. I have also provided links to policies and guidelines that outline the rationale for such actions. That said, you have continued to disregard the guidelines by repeatedly adding inappropriate content and sourcing. This is what is referred to as edit warring. It doesn't matter whether or not another article exists in the German Wikipedia. Each have different policies and guidelines established by that particular community that governs the encyclopedia. What matters here is that the article complies with the standards of the English Wikipedia. You can certainly expand the article by adding content from the German Wikipedia, but at this point, the article requires that we establish notability through significant coverage in reliable sources that are independent of the subject. Lacking notability would require deletion of the article. If you have questions, please feel free to contact me. In any event, please refrain from repeatedly adding primary sources, press releases, self-published sources, and citations to merely support the existence of an entity already presented through the wikilink. I also recommend that you review the guidelines pertaining to ownership of articles. Best regards, Cindy  ( talk to me ) 17:41, 22 December 2012 (UTC) Edited to add... can you provide a link to the German Wikipedia article? We could add that as an interlanguage link in the English article. I would also be happy to help expand the English article accordingly. Thanks,  Cindy  ( talk to me ) 17:51, 22 December 2012 (UTC)
 * Dear Cindy, Does a press release from the ITU (which is a UN agency which makes telecommunications standards ) count as a reliable & independent source? In that case I would like to re-instate the reference to the ITU press release you removed. Regards, David e cooper (talk) 17:59, 22 December 2012 (UTC) PS I'm happy to add inter language link to German article- how do you do this?David e cooper (talk) 18:04, 22 December 2012 (UTC)
 * We can't actually use a press release in any regards, since they are neither reliable or independent. Press releases are written to essentially present and promote the subject in the best possible light. We never use self-published sources for either external links or citations. As far as the interlanguage link, if you add de:name of article (add the brackets and replace "name of article" with the German article title). When this is done, it will show up as a link on the left panel of the article so that readers can check out the German article in addition to the English article. I tried to look for the German article, but I couldn't find it. (I don't speak German... and Google translate wasn't working for me.) Cindy  ( talk to me ) 18:14, 22 December 2012 (UTC)

November 2017
Hello, and thank you for your contributions to Wikipedia. This is just a note to let you know that I've moved the draft that you were working on to Draft:Róbert Kreutz, from its old location at User:David e cooper/Róbert Kreutz. This has been done because the Draft namespace is the preferred location for Articles for Creation submissions. Please feel free to continue to work on it there. If you have any questions about this, you are welcome to ask me on my talk page. Thank you. KGirl (Wanna chat?) 01:32, 22 November 2017 (UTC)

Your submission at Articles for creation: Róbert Kreutz (November 25)
 Your recent article submission to Articles for Creation has been reviewed! Unfortunately, it has not been accepted at this time. The reason left by Curb Safe Charmer was:

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Curb Safe Charmer (talk) 22:17, 25 November 2017 (UTC)

Your submission at Articles for creation: Róbert Kreutz (January 2)
 Your recent article submission to Articles for Creation has been reviewed! Unfortunately, it has not been accepted at this time. The reason left by Curb Safe Charmer was:

The comment the reviewer left was:

Please check the submission for any additional comments left by the reviewer. You are encouraged to edit the submission to address the issues raised and resubmit when they have been resolved.


 * If you would like to continue working on the submission, go to Draft:Róbert Kreutz and click on the "Edit" tab at the top of the window.
 * If you now believe the draft cannot meet Wikipedia's standards or do not wish to progress it further, you may request deletion. Please go to Draft:Róbert Kreutz, click on the "Edit" tab at the top of the window, add "db-self" at the top of the draft text and save.
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Curb Safe Charmer (talk) 22:30, 2 January 2018 (UTC)

Your submission at Articles for creation: Róbert Kreutz has been accepted
 Róbert Kreutz, which you submitted to Articles for creation, has been created. The article has been assessed as Stub-Class, which is recorded on the article's talk page. You may like to take a look at the grading scheme to see how you can improve the article. You are more than welcome to continue making quality contributions to Wikipedia. . Thank you for helping improve Wikipedia! Lacypaperclip (talk) 21:08, 5 January 2018 (UTC)
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