User talk:Davie243

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Article issues
Your additions to the breastfeeding article include passages copied verbatim from a non-free source. This was detected by automatic plagiarism detection software. For copyright reasons, your entire contribution was deleted. Please review the Plagiarism and Copyright training module before proceeding further. Thanks. Ian (Wiki Ed) (talk) 02:33, 21 November 2019 (UTC)

Breastfeeding
Hi. I've reverted your additions to the breastfeeding article. They don't meet the standard or tone appropriate for a Wikipedia article. You wrote:


 * It is recommended - recommendations don't exist independent of people giving them. When you say it like this, it amounts to Wikipedia making a recommendation. Wikipedia articles cannot give advice, especially not medical advice like this.
 * Skin to Skin help both mom and dad have more confidence - encyclopedia articles should use formal language.
 * Skin to Skin have many health benefits associated with it like lowering postpartum depression, relieve stress, stabilize baby's temperature, breathing rate, heart rate, and blood sugar - this sort of medical information needs to be supported by sources which meet Wikipedia's referencing medical references. The source you used, which was from 1954, is not an appropriate source. I recommend that you revisit the Editing health and psychology topics training module.

Working on well-developed articles like this can be challenging, which is why we recommended that you select stub or start class articles. While it's fine to continue improving what you've written in your sandbox, please don't move it back into the article. Let me know when you're ready, and we can discuss this further. Ian (Wiki Ed) (talk) 00:25, 24 November 2019 (UTC)


 * I also moved your sandbox draft to User:Davie243/Breastfeeding. Somehow it ended up being created in mainspace by mistake. Ian (Wiki Ed) (talk) 00:29, 24 November 2019 (UTC)

You added
After giving birth, Skin-to-Skin is a very important component that both mothers or fathers can have with their newborn child. Skin-to-Skin is when a newborn baby is placed directly on top on their mother chest nakedly so that it give the baby a sense of security and comfort so that they can have a bonding moment with their mom or dad. When you're having skin-to-skin time, you always want to make sure that the baby's nose and mouth should always be uncovered. Skin to Skin help both mom and dad have more confidence and make them feel more relaxed as parents because they already have a sense of connection with their baby.


 * 1) ^ "Breastmilk Counts". Breastmilk Counts. Retrieved 2019-11-24.

How does the ref support this? Doc James (talk · contribs · email) 03:06, 25 November 2019 (UTC)

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Further feedback
Hi. Thanks for making some changes to your draft, but it's still nowhere near ready.


 * This isn't actually about breastfeeding, it's about the importance of skin-to-skin contact. Wikipedia already has an entire article about that. This information doesn't belong in this article.
 * As I mentioned before, informal language like "mom or dad" doesn't belong in formal writing
 * It's also important that you write well. An adverb should precede or follow a noun; a phrase like placed directly on top on their mother chest nakedly just isn't good writing.


 * This is also about skin-to-skin contact, so not appropriate for this article
 * You're giving medical advice here. Wikipedia articles aren't supposed to give "how to" advice at all, and you should never give medical advice without a medical license.
 * An encyclopedia article isn't supposed to speak to the reader. If you're writing in the first or second person, you're almost always getting it wrong.

Please don't move any content to mainspace. Please stop moving your sandbox to mainspace. Please stop this. Ian (Wiki Ed) (talk) 15:31, 25 November 2019 (UTC)

Breastfeeding article
Again and again people have reached out to you with offers of assistance but you have ignored them all. This is not acceptable. Gandydancer (talk) 20:56, 15 December 2019 (UTC)
 * Do not re-add content to this article. Keep in mind that you will not be graded on what "sticks" in the article, but rather the effort you have put forward. In general whenever content is removed from an article it is important to address the concerns brought up by the other editors, either on their talk page or on the article's talk page, particularly in the case of multiple editors removing content. Re-adding content will not resolve the issues and can actually be seen as disruptive, which can in turn lead to you getting blocked from editing.
 * brought up several very good points about the content you were trying to add and I don't see where you addressed all of the points he brought up. is also correct in questioning the use of Breastmilk Counts as a source. It looks like it is run by the Texas Health and Human Services Commission and WIC Program, but it doesn't state who exactly wrote what or what type of editorial and verification processes are used. It's likely not a terrible source, but it's not the strongest possible source - especially as this deals with health topics.
 * You have been asked repeatedly to stop re-adding this content. I must stress again that this can lead to you getting blocked from editing, so do not re-add this content until you've discussed the issues and resolved them on the article's talk page. To be honest, given that the article is so extensive and that you will not be graded on the content remaining in the article, it would be best if you were to refrain from adding it and revisit the article later, once you've had more experience editing on health topics. I feel a little bad stating this, but there has already been quite a bit of pushback and you've received warnings from multiple editors. Shalor (Wiki Ed) (talk) 04:03, 17 December 2019 (UTC)
 * To clarify, you will be blocked from editing if you continue to do this. It's throughly disrespectful to ignore everyone's feedback the way you have chose to do so. Ian (Wiki Ed) (talk) 15:01, 17 December 2019 (UTC)