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I spent quite some time putting up an article, only to find it's been deleted. It's difficult not to be irritated by this. I'd like the article put back and the copyright issues resolved properly and with understanding. The article was deleted by Robth and titled 'Kenilworth Primary School' Dbennetts 14:08, 10 December 2006 (UTC)
 * The deletion log makes no mention of an AfD. Was there warning or notice that the article was going to be deleted? I'd request an admin to give you a copy of the page to put in your user space to work on it until the copyright problems can be worked out. - JNighthawk 12:01, 10 December 2006 (UTC)


 * Thank you for the prompt reply... I'll ask Robth to put the article in my user space Dbennetts 14:08, 10 December 2006 (UTC)


 * No problem, but don't take my advice as canon. I'm not a Wikipedia expert, yet. By the way, you should sign your posts with four tildes ( ~ ) - JNighthawk 12:26, 10 December 2006 (UTC)


 * What article do you mean? I've just looked at your contributions page and they all appear to be there. -- sony-youth 13:12, 10 December 2006 (UTC) Apologies, I can see its being sorted. -- sony-youth  13:14, 10 December 2006 (UTC)


 * Switched between signed and unsigned posts and in the end resigned to the idea that since it was me writing on my talk page, I didn't need to.. I will in future tho' Dbennetts 14:08, 10 December 2006 (UTC)

Kenilworth Primary School
The article was deleted because it was copied from another website, and had been listed for over a week at Copyright problems/2006 November 9. As such, the article cannot be restored, but if you would like to write a new article composed of original material, you are welcome to do so. --RobthTalk 21:52, 10 December 2006 (UTC)

Clearly this system does not work. Given that the article was written by me it naturally appeared on my watchlist, tho' no warning appeared to say someone was about to delete it. That aside, I don't have the time to log in to wikipedia every week to see if someone has deleted my article. If you wished to delete my article, I should be contacted - one way or another. The article wasn't simply copied which is why I would like you to put it back in my user space. I don't believe your actions are fair or justified - nor do I believe you're representing the rest of the wikipedians who have admin priviledges and try their hardest not to irritate others. The article can be restored. If you're not sure how to, let me know Dbennetts 21:10, 11 December 2006 (UTC)
 * The article will not be restored, because its content was copied from an external site (making modifications and additions to copied content does not release it from copyright), and Wikipedia policy on dealing with copyright violations forbids the restoration. As I said before, you are welcome to contribute an original article on this subject if you please. --RobthTalk 01:51, 12 December 2006 (UTC)

Robth has removed an article I wrote and refuses to put it back into my user space. The content of the article wasn't copied in full - I should know - I wrote both! Most frustrating of all is the time I spent on developing my amateur wikipedian skills (we all have to start somewhere). If you follow the thread above, you'll see how this silly situation has developed. I'm trying my utmost not to lose my cool about this, but I struggle to act rationally when someone has deleted my work and then behaves as if they wrote the five pillars. (It's also noteworthy to say I don't have the time that Robth clearly has to spend logged on to wikipedia, undoing changes other people make to his work; had I the time, perhaps I would have noticed my article on the AfD list.) Ironically, this was the last published piece I edited [] - Robth I suggest you read it! Dbennetts 19:19, 12 December 2006 (UTC)


 * Either an e-mail can be sent from an official school e-mail address, or a note can be added to the school website licensing it under the GFDL. —Centrx→talk &bull; 19:20, 12 December 2006 (UTC)


 * Well just because you made the initial edits to an article doen't mean you own it or that you get some special approval on every action talen on it, we aren't a free web host. The fact that it contained a copyright violation precludes it from being restored into your userspace. We cannot have copyright material anywhere and userspace is not a safe haven for encyclopedia articles which aren't acceptable in article space. The only option here would be as Centrx suggests to get the copyright holder to release it under a suitable license, or as originally suggested to rewrite it in your own words --pgk 19:23, 12 December 2006 (UTC)


 * This has all gotten completely out of hand! www.kenilworth.herts.sch.uk is NOT copyright material, nor has it ever claimed to hold such license. However, now that the footer to the homepages now states "This site can be reproduced under the GNU Free Documentation License," kindly restore the article to my userspace. Dbennetts 20:57, 12 December 2006 (UTC) 20:56, 12 December 2006 (UTC)


 * I have restored the article since the explicit licensing of the website permits us to do so under the GFDL. This doesn't mean that the article won't be nominated for deletion on another basis, or edit mercilessly by other editors. Regarding "ever claimed to be", seems to indicate a misunderstanding of copyright law. I am not a lawyer, but copyright is automatic and implicit, lack of a notice does not mean that material is not copyrighted (Lack of notices may have implications concerning damages awarded if bought to a judicial setting, but does not diminish the protection afforded under copyright law. "Authors" of creative works automatically have copyright protection of their work. As such an explicit license is required, such as the GFDL as now stated. --pgk 21:21, 12 December 2006 (UTC)

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