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Speedy deletion nomination of WAUSAU Financial Systems


A tag has been placed on WAUSAU Financial Systems, requesting that it be speedily deleted from Wikipedia for multiple reasons. Please see the page to see the reasons. If the page has since been deleted, you can ask me the reasons by leaving a message on my user talk page.

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Speedy deletion nomination of WAUSAU Financial Systems


A tag has been placed on WAUSAU Financial Systems requesting that it be speedily deleted from Wikipedia. This has been done under section G12 of the criteria for speedy deletion, because the article appears to be a clear copyright infringement. For legal reasons, we cannot accept copyrighted text or images borrowed from other web sites or printed material, and as a consequence, your addition will most likely be deleted. You may use external websites as a source of information, but not as a source of sentences. This part is crucial: say it in your own words. Wikipedia takes copyright violations very seriously and persistent violators will be blocked from editing.

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Removing Speedy at WAUSAU Financial Systems
- SDPatrolBot (talk) 15:48, 8 September 2011 (UTC)

Deletion
Hi, I've seen your message, but I don't have time to respond in detail now. I'll post you a proper reply within the next 24 hrs.  Jimfbleak -  talk to me?  17:05, 8 September 2011 (UTC)

The bot picked up the removal of the speedy tag. Although I can see you did this in good faith, having worked on the text, you will appreciate that removal of tags is often done simply to evade deletion. What you should have done was to press the conspicuous "press here to contest this speedy deletion" bar in the middle of the tag to allow an uninvolved editor to make the judgement. Looking again, it was possibly not a copyright violation, although the new text paraphrased the source a bit too closely in places.

Although you provided independent verifiable sources to enable us to verify the facts and show that it meets the notability guidelines for companies, you relied rather too much on the company as a source. Using other, more independent, sources would help, especially for items like acquisitions which surely must have been reported widely.

My main beef was that the article was written in a spammy way. This may result from inexperience, but it's worth looking at top-quality content like BAE Systems to see how an article should be laid out.

Specifically
 * You should not repeat the title as a heading, just bold the first occurence of the company name in the text.
 * There should be no external links in the text. If there's a wikipedia article, wikilink to that. If the link is being used as a reference, format it as such. Otherwise, have an "external links" section listing relevant sites (only one to the company's main page though, not multiple links)
 * you make claims which may well be true, but are unsupported by in-line refs provides transaction-processing applications for Fortune 500 corporations... Nationally (better, "in the US"), seven of the top eight lockbox providers use WAUSAU solutions... has over $1 billion under its management... key partnership 
 * The structure is spammy, starting with the products rather than where the company is, number of employees etc. Factual stuff helps, and anything negative helps to inspire credibility (BAE has a section for corruption investigations!)
 * Use Wikilinks: for example, at a quick glance private equity, check, Chicago and even Mosinee, Wisconsin have their own articles, probably many others. Using links makes it looks less like a cut-and-paste job

Minor point, is now preferred to

You have an obvious conflict of interest when it comes to editing articles about this subject. If, after reading the information about notability linked above, you still believe that your organisation is notable enough for a Wikipedia article (and that there is significant coverage of the centre in reliable, independent secondary sources), you could, if you wish post a request at Requested articles for the article to be created. See also Best practices for editors with conflicts of interest.

Hope this helps. If you want, you could work on your sandbox version, and let me know if you want comments  Jimfbleak -  talk to me?  06:30, 9 September 2011 (UTC)
 * Sandbox version is much better. I made these changes, a mix of Manual of Style, wikilinks, typos and removal of the dreaded "solution". It would probably survive now, but if you can add more about the company (turnover, profits etc), that would be good. Not sure what the list of execs adds, since none has a wikipedia article. Two of the claimed awards have no references. Avoid TM, looks spammy in an encyclopaedia. Good luck  Jimfbleak  -  talk to me?  06:04, 15 September 2011 (UTC)

Speedy deletion nomination of WAUSAU Financial Systems


A tag has been placed on WAUSAU Financial Systems, requesting that it be speedily deleted from Wikipedia. This has been done under section G11 of the criteria for speedy deletion, because the page seems to be unambiguous advertising which only promotes a company, product, group, service or person and would need to be fundamentally rewritten in order to become an encyclopedia article. Please read the guidelines on spam and FAQ/Business for more information.

If you think that this notice was placed here in error, contest the deletion by clicking on the button labelled "Click here to contest this speedy deletion". Doing so will take you to the talk page where you will find a pre-formatted place for you to explain why you believe the page should not be deleted. You can also visit the the page's talk page directly to give your reasons, but be aware that once tagged for speedy deletion, if the page meets the criterion, it may be deleted without delay. Please do not remove the speedy deletion tag yourself, but don't hesitate to add information to the page that would render it more in conformance with Wikipedia's policies and guidelines. If the page is deleted, you can contact one of these administrators to request that the administrator userfy the page or email a copy to you. Night of the Big Wind talk  16:54, 10 October 2011 (UTC)